Thai Woman Tricked And Sexually Abused By Brazilian Drug Traffickers

[F4UCorsair]

Why does this article emphasize "Black men"? Would it not suffice to say Brazilian males? Does the use of the colour of skin add emphasis to the horrors of this tale?

Yep, the skin colour is completely irrelevant to the story... it must have made it seem more scary to the writer/editor.

Keep your political correctness drivel in your own country. Any descriptive fact is relevant to the story. I'm glad to live in a country where these things are not censored.

I agree edwardandtubs. We've gone so far with the political correctness here in Australia that a Sudanese man was recently described as a 'dark skinned man'. Well they don't come any darker than Sudanese; they are blacker than black, but we can't say 'black man' here because it's supposedly racist. What a crock that is.

There would be no outcry if somebody was described as 'a white man'. Political correctness and racism seem to only apply if the person referred to is in a minority group.

Edited December 11, 2012 by F4UCorsair

[Kilgore Trout]

To Kilgore,

Sorry but you have lost me. I do not see the connection between a common phrase and your black friends. To " Call a spade a spade" is to talk openly and honestly about a topic. Please enlighten me!

It would seem from your post that after calling a "spade a spade" you would call it a shovel. I took that to mean you will call black people spades, and sometimes use the literal meaning.

I always call a spade a spade and on occasions I even call a spade a F*****g Shovel!

Complete with expletive and all. Sounds pretty dam_n racist to me, correct yourself if you mean otherwise, buddy.

[Baerboxer]

Although we may not know just how badly blacks are still viewed by some, one thing is clear based on most of our posts and that is that the black man still commands more respect and rates higher than a Thai female.

It's true that Thai women are unfairly stereotyped. But as long as Thailand remains a patriarchy where rich Thai men continue to build multistory "massage parlors", and impoverished females have no alternative but to sell themselves to prostitution, I'm afraid that stereotype will not change in the near future. Sad, but true.

Austria and Germany "boast" some very large brothels (not masked as massage parlours or entertainment). Holland has large numbers of bothels. The females in these countries do not get stereotyped. I agree, Thai females are very unfairly stereotyped. Maybe thats why these drug gangs hit on them as easy victims?

[dighambara]

Why does this article emphasize "Black men"? Would it not suffice to say Brazilian males? Does the use of the colour of skin add emphasis to the horrors of this tale?

Perhaps they were not Brazilian males! Maybe they were indeed "Black Men" from the countries that seem to specialise in drugs as can be seen in parts of Bangkok. These type of people get everywhere and why not Brazil. I think Thai women know the difference between brown and black!

The skin colour of the perps is totally irrelevant to whether or not they were Brazilians (a large proportion of the Brazilian population is of African or mixed ancestry) and it's also irrelevant to a news story. At best it may be relevant to the police conducting the investigation. But it has no place or value in a news story. Last week, here in Singapore, the headline was 'Caucasian passenger beats taxi driver'. Can you see how that is both irrelevant and offensive?

Not in the least offensive,merely the victim's description of the perpetrator.

BTW - People describe me as 'Caucasian' but I could care less, as I am a typical mix of this and that.

Edited December 11, 2012 by dighambara

[stoli]

Was the man short? Whoops, I mean height challenged. Get a grip. It was just used as a description. No on was out to offend anyone. Move on..please....

[samuibruno]

is caucasion actually a color at all?????

[SNGLIFE]

It is most certainly fearmongering to state "Black men" or any other non-helpful generalized description. If "black men" was included in a more detailed description which could actually help readers identify the perpetrators without a picture, then it would be fair. For example, "3 black men with the same dragon tattoo on their foreheads, wearing red jackets and white shorts escaped in a blue Toyota Camry" would be a fair use. To just say "Black men" just heaps more problems on innocent, law abiding, decent Black men living in the Kingdom.

I can recall several years ago there was a sensationalized news story about some Thai Police General who captured some Nigerian drug traffickers. Speaking to the camera, he made a statement to the effect that all Black people in the Kingdom might be drug traffickers. After that, Thais were giving the evil eye to every Black person for a long time afterwards - especially those of means (such as Americans who have nothing at all to do with Nigerians or their soiled reputation).

It matters.

But Thai media is not alone. In the "developed" countries, the boogey man has been those of Arab descent. Decent folks being suspected as terrorists. Shameful. This is 2012, not 1812.

It matters.

[osiboy]

This happened to a friend of mine. She met a Brazilian guy who told her how much he loved her, and took her to Brazil one month after meeting her to "meet his parents". I explained that it didn't sound right, and she went, but came back and was arrested cause she did what they asked.

With the influx of foreign nationals, and the sheer amount of scumbags who like to call Thailand home, paired with the sex industry that's so prevalent in the country, maybe Thailand should start educating people through different media outlets about the dangers in this world. This isn't a new story, drug dealers the world over do this (I'm from a place like this).

Show Locked Up Abroad in Thai or something!!! Protect your population by educating your population!

nice idea but using the words thai and education in the same sentence doesn't sound right to me , but its what is needed for sure, i said many times the govt should be doing more on adverts in the media , especially tv as this is where most thais get their education !

[Billmont]

To Kilgore,

Sorry but you have lost me. I do not see the connection between a common phrase and your black friends. To " Call a spade a spade" is to talk openly and honestly about a topic. Please enlighten me!

It would seem from your post that after calling a "spade a spade" you would call it a shovel. I took that to mean you will call black people spades, and sometimes use the literal meaning.

I always call a spade a spade and on occasions I even call a spade a F*****g Shovel!

Complete with expletive and all. Sounds pretty dam_n racist to me, correct yourself if you mean otherwise, buddy.

You really have a racist chip on your shoulder. It is purely a phrase and only meant as that, why do you have to read something else into it? You must have a serious problem to twist an old English phrase into something racial. Regarding calling a spade an <deleted> shovel is a local expression where I come from and just means that you are a bit blunt in being forthright. Please dont call me buddy, I do not know you or care to as someone who twists inocent remarks into something racist. Good night from me and good night from Buddy!

[Brasilouro]

I look out side to see two black guys stealing and riding away on my motorbike "And for the PC members they could be yellow ,white or many more different colours for that matter " but lets just say they were black . When i report the crime it is relevant what they look like and when the crime report is passed on it will be relevant then as well .. Im sure the journalise who reported on this story may have only read the crime report and found it relevant because it is like the rest of the facts !!

Edited December 11, 2012 by Brasilouro

[SNGLIFE]

Regarding human trafficking in general, I would seriously doubt "Black men" are major perpetrators as it relates to trafficking Thai women. Still, that is another false perception throughout the Kingdom and especially in Bangkok. Stories like this only server to reinforce that misperception with the result being Thai women continuing to be duped by the REAL perpetrators who are other Thais often working in cahoots with farang here or abroad. They should have their guard up around those people who are the real perps, but because of media misdirection, social misperceptions, and plain stupidity, they don't and thus continue to trust and be duped.

[smotherb]

Why does this article emphasize "Black men"? Would it not suffice to say Brazilian males? Does the use of the colour of skin add emphasis to the horrors of this tale?

Perhaps they were not Brazilian males! Maybe they were indeed "Black Men" from the countries that seem to specialise in drugs as can be seen in parts of Bangkok. These type of people get everywhere and why not Brazil. I think Thai women know the difference between brown and black!

The skin colour of the perps is totally irrelevant to whether or not they were Brazilians (a large proportion of the Brazilian population is of African or mixed ancestry) and it's also irrelevant to a news story. At best it may be relevant to the police conducting the investigation. But it has no place or value in a news story. Last week, here in Singapore, the headline was 'Caucasian passenger beats taxi driver'. Can you see how that is both irrelevant and offensive?

The color of their skin is no more irrelevant than the facts they were men, she was Thai, and that it occurred in Brazil. Similarly, the caucasoid passenger simply differentiates the perp from a negroid or mongoloid passenger.

[kinmaew]

Why does this article emphasize "Black men"? Would it not suffice to say Brazilian males? Does the use of the colour of skin add emphasis to the horrors of this tale?

I agree but I think we all know Thais are racist.

[mok199]

on my morning runs i have seen a new trend in the pi*ps on the beach...they are black.....

Edited December 11, 2012 by metisdead
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[erectem]

Why does this article emphasize "Black men"? Would it not suffice to say Brazilian males? Does the use of the colour of skin add emphasis to the horrors of this tale?

It does to Thai chicks. It does to me to.

[Payboy]

At least now all the Thais know that Brazil is a huge potential market for their skin whitening cream exports.

[Fozfromoz]

To Kilgore,

Sorry but you have lost me. I do not see the connection between a common phrase and your black friends. To " Call a spade a spade" is to talk openly and honestly about a topic. Please enlighten me!

It would seem from your post that after calling a "spade a spade" you would call it a shovel. I took that to mean you will call black people spades, and sometimes use the literal meaning.

I always call a spade a spade and on occasions I even call a spade a F*****g Shovel!

Complete with expletive and all. Sounds pretty dam_n racist to me, correct yourself if you mean otherwise, buddy.

Where I come from, the term " calls a spade a spade" simply means that the person referred to tells it how it is, no embellishments or bullshit. It has nothing to do with colour.

[Card]

Why does this article emphasize "Black men"? Would it not suffice to say Brazilian males? Does the use of the colour of skin add emphasis to the horrors of this tale?

My thoughts as well. It helps to 'blacken' the story, especially as Mrs C, the other Thai woman, is not directly implicated, almost as if she is just a bystander. It's all smells of 'blame the foreigners and blacks'

[Nisa]

Why does this article emphasize "Black men"? Would it not suffice to say Brazilian males? Does the use of the colour of skin add emphasis to the horrors of this tale?

My thoughts as well. It helps to 'blacken' the story, especially as Mrs C, the other Thai woman, is not directly implicated, almost as if she is just a bystander. It's all smells of 'blame the foreigners and blacks'

Did you actually read the article?

narrowly escaped becoming an unwilling drug courier after she was tricked by a work colleague (Ms. C)

Ms. B told authorities how she came to be deceived and kidnapped ...

a work colleague, “Ms. C,” (alias) invited her to come visit Brazil for a week ...

Ms. C said she was flying back home soon, and she promised to pick up Ms. B when she arrived in Brazil.

But when Ms. B arrived in Brazil, Ms. C was not there to pick her up at the airport. She could not find her ...

The next day, Ms. B got a call from Ms. C, who said she was already back in Thailand. Then several black men were knocking on Ms. B’s door. They entered the room when she opened the door. The men then threatened Ms. B, and ordered her to transport drugs back to Thailand by hiding cocaine in her underwear and in her vagina.

How can you think there is any suggestion she was just a bystander let alone not implicated?

Edited December 11, 2012 by Nisa

[mancub]

I'm wondering what nationality this Mrs C is ....report doesn't mention it . refers to "a work colleague " who claimed to be returning home (Brazil) .

If she's Thai ,working in BKK, then surely there should be mention of her at least being detained for questioning by the Royal Thai Police ....????

[F4UCorsair]

SNGLIFE said, " For example, "3 black men with the same dragon tattoo on their foreheads, wearing red jackets and white shorts escaped in a blue Toyota Camry" would be a fair use. To just say "Black men" just heaps more problems on innocent, law abiding, decent Black men living in the Kingdom."

I find it offensive that you've nominated a color for the Camry!!! The Camry could be suffering low self esteem as a consequence. (That's a joke for those overly serious types)

Political correctness has gone mad. If the description of an alleged perpetrator includes his color, that is giving accurate information. If he was nominated as black, when in fact he was green, then there is a problem.

geriatric kid said, "Why does this article emphasize "Black men"? Would it not suffice to say Brazilian males? Does the use of the colour of skin add emphasis to the horrors of this tale?"

My reading of the article doesn't say they were Brazilian males, but 'black men'. It is possible that they weren't Brazilian, but Africans?? If this occurred in Thailand, and the perpetrators were Africans ( there are plenty in Thailand), would they be described as 'Thais'. I think not.

Edited December 11, 2012 by F4UCorsair

[noitom]

Thai woman 'tricked" by farang, Brazillian drug dealers "hustling" a Thai woman. Mrs. A, Mrs. B, Mrs. C are involved, the 24 year old Thai woman was "tricked" by another Thai work colleague, black men!! My word, last but not least, black men, how dare they "hustle" a Thai.

Do you think that the Thai woman had a financial motive for being involved and suckered in by her Thai friend? This article paints a picture of racist Thais as it "singles out" black men as the key culprits, not just men or Brazillian men, but "black men."

[gaucho]

black brown caramel chartreuse ...who cares as long as they r hopefully caught and their asses put in the slammer ...

[Nisa]

black brown caramel chartreuse ...who cares as long as they r hopefully caught and their asses put in the slammer ...

Agree 100% but I get the feeling this was about getting the Thai women free and doubt there will be any prosecution unless there is to be some ongoing international criminal investigation where they round up more evidence and victims. And if there is some international criminal investigation it is probably going to be kept quiet for a long while while they build a case and hopefully make arrests.

[prvtdetdave]

Who paid for the trip? I doubt a young Thai girl would pay the plane ticket and go alone to Brazil for one week. Seems to me that his could have been easily avoided if she had some common sense.

As others may have said, We do not know the whole story.

The smuggling cartels have grown very sophisticated and

are very cunning in thier trade.

[Kilgore Trout]

Why does this article emphasize "Black men"? Would it not suffice to say Brazilian males? Does the use of the colour of skin add emphasis to the horrors of this tale?

Perhaps they were not Brazilian males! Maybe they were indeed "Black Men" from the countries that seem to specialise in drugs as can be seen in parts of Bangkok. These type of people get everywhere and why not Brazil. I think Thai women know the difference between brown and black!

The skin colour of the perps is totally irrelevant to whether or not they were Brazilians (a large proportion of the Brazilian population is of African or mixed ancestry) and it's also irrelevant to a news story. At best it may be relevant to the police conducting the investigation. But it has no place or value in a news story. Last week, here in Singapore, the headline was 'Caucasian passenger beats taxi driver'. Can you see how that is both irrelevant and offensive?

The color of their skin is no more irrelevant than the facts they were men, she was Thai, and that it occurred in Brazil. Similarly, the caucasoid passenger simply differentiates the perp from a negroid or mongoloid passenger.

Congrats on the stupidest post of the day

Perhaps you would like to measure the perps craniums?

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[Kilgore Trout]

To Kilgore,

Sorry but you have lost me. I do not see the connection between a common phrase and your black friends. To " Call a spade a spade" is to talk openly and honestly about a topic. Please enlighten me!

It would seem from your post that after calling a "spade a spade" you would call it a shovel. I took that to mean you will call black people spades, and sometimes use the literal meaning.

I always call a spade a spade and on occasions I even call a spade a F*****g Shovel!

Complete with expletive and all. Sounds pretty dam_n racist to me, correct yourself if you mean otherwise, buddy.

Where I come from, the term " calls a spade a spade" simply means that the person referred to tells it how it is, no embellishments or bullshit. It has nothing to do with colour.

FYI. If u say "call a spade a spade" while looking at a black person in the us, you will get your a_s kicked, regardless of your intentions. It is what it is;)

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Edited December 12, 2012 by Kilgore Trout

[Fozfromoz]

This is really a joke and now I can see why PC is being more and more common by some of the "Dont mention blacks" comments. It always amuses me when Jones a black boxer is fighting a white boxer, unfortunately they both have the same colour boxing shorts. The comentator says Jones can be identified by his red boxing boots. One is black and one is white for goodness sake. PC and its followers have a lot to answer for. Please do not support them. I am not a racist, never will be and have friends of different colour and creed. BUT while I do not care if you are black, white, green, yellow, red, blue or come from Mars, if you are a pratt then your are still a pratt!

Well done to all the Thai authorities that helped in this case and when credit is due then it must be give. Good luck to the young Thai lady and I hope her future will be good

Reminds me of many years ago, with the England cricket team. They had a guy called Gladstone Small in the team who was black, great fast bowler. England are in the field, and the radio commentator, is describing each person individually. When it came to Gladstone, he said, "and down at fine leg we have Gladstone Small, easily distinguishable, by the fact that his sleeves are buttoned at the wrist".

Off topic i know, but it was done in cheek, and i thought humorous, which hopefully may be appreciated here

Edited December 12, 2012 by Fozfromoz

[Fozfromoz]

To Kilgore,

Sorry but you have lost me. I do not see the connection between a common phrase and your black friends. To " Call a spade a spade" is to talk openly and honestly about a topic. Please enlighten me!

It would seem from your post that after calling a "spade a spade" you would call it a shovel. I took that to mean you will call black people spades, and sometimes use the literal meaning.

I always call a spade a spade and on occasions I even call a spade a F*****g Shovel!

Complete with expletive and all. Sounds pretty dam_n racist to me, correct yourself if you mean otherwise, buddy.

Where I come from, the term " calls a spade a spade" simply means that the person referred to tells it how it is, no embellishments or bullshit. It has nothing to do with colour.

FYI. If u say "call a spade a spade" while looking at a black person in the us, you will get your a_s kicked, regardless of your intentions. It is what it is;)

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I guess that's one of the many intricacies of the English Language, in different parts of the world. Bit like if you guys say you are pi*sed, means you are angry. We say that when overly imbibing. You say air conditioner. We say eggnishna.

[nontabury]

To Kilgore,

Sorry but you have lost me. I do not see the connection between a common phrase and your black friends. To " Call a spade a spade" is to talk openly and honestly about a topic. Please enlighten me!

It would seem from your post that after calling a "spade a spade" you would call it a shovel. I took that to mean you will call black people spades, and sometimes use the literal meaning.

I always call a spade a spade and on occasions I even call a spade a F*****g Shovel!

Complete with expletive and all. Sounds pretty dam_n racist to me, correct yourself if you mean otherwise, buddy.

Where I come from, the term " calls a spade a spade" simply means that the person referred to tells it how it is, no embellishments or bullshit. It has nothing to do with colour.

FYI. If u say "call a spade a spade" while looking at a black person in the us, you will get your a_s kicked, regardless of your intentions. It is what it is;)

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Where does it say he's in the USA?