“There Is No Prostitution In Pattaya”

[manarak]

By the way, saying "prostitution is illegal in Thailand" is correct in precise terms but a bit of an oversimplification.

In precise terms, no, it's incorrect.

If for example, a girl and her john went to the police station and both confessed that they had sex in his hotel room in exchange for money, the police officer would not be able to charge either of them, except maybe for wasting the officer's time.

[Pieman]

The incident I recall was well before 6 or 7 years ago. But from your description it was Paveena Hongsakul (which now sounds right but I was thinking it was someone else for some reason) and she was not a minister but an MP.

It was a bit more than 6 or 7 years, I think.

For a while she was the knight in shining armour promising to rescue the innocent from the clutches of western deviants. It wasn't long before bar girls were threatening to call her whenever they couldn't get their way.

I think she was instrumental in getting at least one bar owner arrested. I saw her in the Winchester in Jomtien surrounded by a gaggle of girls each competing to out-do each other with stories of mistreatment. She disappeared as soon as the publicity faded.

[Bagwan]

The incident I recall was well before 6 or 7 years ago. But from your description it was Paveena Hongsakul (which now sounds right but I was thinking it was someone else for some reason) and she was not a minister but an MP.

It was a bit more than 6 or 7 years, I think.

For a while she was the knight in shining armour promising to rescue the innocent from the clutches of western deviants. It wasn't long before bar girls were threatening to call her whenever they couldn't get their way.

I think she was instrumental in getting at least one bar owner arrested. I saw her in the Winchester in Jomtien surrounded by a gaggle of girls each competing to out-do each other with stories of mistreatment. She disappeared as soon as the publicity faded.

I certainly wasn't more than 10 years. The police closed all the bars in Soi 6 for the day and there was nothing for the would be reformer and self publicist to see. About that time a City Councillor promised to clear Beach Road of ladies that rented by the hour. He said that he put put his reputation on achieving his target. His reputation????

[SteeleJoe]

By the way, saying "prostitution is illegal in Thailand" is correct in precise terms but a bit of an oversimplification.

In precise terms, no, it's incorrect.

If for example, a girl and her john went to the police station and both confessed that they had sex in his hotel room in exchange for money, the police officer would not be able to charge either of them, except maybe for wasting the officer's time.

The Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act, B.E. 2539

http://www.baliprocess.net/Files/Legislation/Q-Z/ThailandProstitutionAct.pdf

"Prostitution in Thailand is clearly illegal. However, there may be some sections of Thai law that are ambiguous, making it difficult to prosecute those charged under these laws. The Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act, B.E. 2539 (1996) (the “Prostitution Law”), is the central legal framework prohibiting prostitution. The law defines prostitution as any act done to gratify the sexual desire of another in exchange for money or any other benefit, but only if it is done “in a promiscuous manner”. The Prostitution Law does not define what exactly a “promiscuous manner” constitutes. The crime of solicitation is equally ill defined. A “Jon” soliciting the services of a prostitute is liable under the Prostitution Law only if the solicitation is done “openly and shamelessly or causes a nuisance to the public”, the penalty being a fine of up to 1,000 baht."

http://www.thailawforum.com/sex-crimes-in-thailand-part2.html

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[tingtongtourist]

Any money that you do generously give to any ladythai is to take care them and is purely by chance and coincidental if you happen to have had a good time with them in the last day or so

Of course this is only because you are JAIDEE and because you already know there is not a great welfare system in place in this country

But of course we already know there is no prostitution in Pattaya...just like we know there are NO scams in Phuket and all the took took drivers there are upstanding and courteous young fellows doing a great job

[tingtongtourist]

I'm sure I saw some prostitutes on Soi 6.

I've seen to some prostitutes on Soi 6.

no no NO...you are both wrong, they are free lance after hour tourist guides

[manarak]

By the way, saying "prostitution is illegal in Thailand" is correct in precise terms but a bit of an oversimplification.

In precise terms, no, it's incorrect.

If for example, a girl and her john went to the police station and both confessed that they had sex in his hotel room in exchange for money, the police officer would not be able to charge either of them, except maybe for wasting the officer's time.

The Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act, B.E. 2539

http://www.baliproce...titutionAct.pdf

"Prostitution in Thailand is clearly illegal. However, there may be some sections of Thai law that are ambiguous, making it difficult to prosecute those charged under these laws. The Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act, B.E. 2539 (1996) (the “Prostitution Law”), is the central legal framework prohibiting prostitution. The law defines prostitution as any act done to gratify the sexual desire of another in exchange for money or any other benefit, but only if it is done “in a promiscuous manner”. The Prostitution Law does not define what exactly a “promiscuous manner” constitutes. The crime of solicitation is equally ill defined. A “Jon” soliciting the services of a prostitute is liable under the Prostitution Law only if the solicitation is done “openly and shamelessly or causes a nuisance to the public”, the penalty being a fine of up to 1,000 baht."

http://www.thailawfo...land-part2.html

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Exactly. There is no article in the Law you linked that can be applied to the situation I described.

The guy writing the comment you quoted gives no source for his statement "Prostitution is clearly illegal".

Many do that mistake.

The Bangkok Post some years ago ran a series of articles on Thai Law where two Thai attorneys came to the same conclusion as I did, i.e. the simple act of prostitution is not a breach of the Law.

In short:

Prostitution is not illegal outside "prostitution establishments"

Solicitation is illegal under most circumstances.

Procuration, promotion of and profiting from prostitution of third parties is illegal.

[SteeleJoe]

By the way, saying "prostitution is illegal in Thailand" is correct in precise terms but a bit of an oversimplification.

In precise terms, no, it's incorrect.

If for example, a girl and her john went to the police station and both confessed that they had sex in his hotel room in exchange for money, the police officer would not be able to charge either of them, except maybe for wasting the officer's time.

The Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act, B.E. 2539

http://www.baliproce...titutionAct.pdf

"Prostitution in Thailand is clearly illegal. However, there may be some sections of Thai law that are ambiguous, making it difficult to prosecute those charged under these laws. The Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act, B.E. 2539 (1996) (the “Prostitution Law”), is the central legal framework prohibiting prostitution. The law defines prostitution as any act done to gratify the sexual desire of another in exchange for money or any other benefit, but only if it is done “in a promiscuous manner”. The Prostitution Law does not define what exactly a “promiscuous manner” constitutes. The crime of solicitation is equally ill defined. A “Jon” soliciting the services of a prostitute is liable under the Prostitution Law only if the solicitation is done “openly and shamelessly or causes a nuisance to the public”, the penalty being a fine of up to 1,000 baht."

http://www.thailawfo...land-part2.html

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Exactly. There is no article in the Law you linked that can be applied to the situation I described.

The guy writing the comment you quoted gives no source for his statement "Prostitution is clearly illegal".

Many do that mistake.

The Bangkok Post some years ago ran a series of articles on Thai Law where two Thai attorneys came to the same conclusion as I did, i.e. the simple act of prostitution is not a breach of the Law.

In short:

Prostitution is not illegal outside "prostitution establishments"

Solicitation is illegal under most circumstances.

Procuration, promotion of and profiting from prostitution of third parties is illegal.

Not trying to apply to the situation you described.

I fully agree with what you listed "in short" (and I have long been very familiar with the law).

Not interested in arguing semantics.

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[Soi Sauce]

I'm sure I saw some prostitutes on Soi 6.

I've seen to some prostitutes on Soi 6.

no no NO...you are both wrong, they are free lance after hour tourist guides

And I thought, I saw a pussy 4 cash.

Sorry; pussy cat