Brake Failure On Fleeing Bus Causes Second Accident: Phuket

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Brake failure on fleeing bus causes second accident

Phuket Gazette

PHUKET: -- A tour bus fleeing the scene of an accident suffered brake failure and crashed into a utility pole on Patong Hill yesterday, causing a three-hour traffic jam.

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Patong Police received the accident report at 4pm and arrived at the scene to find that the bus driver had fled.

“A bus with a Pegas Touristik company logo heading from Phuket Town to Patong beach to pick up tourists hit a motorbike while driving up Patong Hill,” Patong Police Deputy Superintendent Nikorn Choothong said.

“The bus driver sped up and drove away after the collision with the motorbike driven by Suriyawadee Uba, 54,” Lt Col Nikorn said.

“Ms Suriyawadee suffered injuries to her face and arm, as well as a broken leg,” he added.

On the way down Patong Hill near Wat Suwankiriwong (map here), after the accident with Ms Suriyawadee, the brakes on the bus failed . With no brakes, the out of control bus hit a utility pole, Col Nikorn said.

“We had to close one of the lanes for Patong-bound traffic on the hill, causing tailbacks for three hours,” he said.

Ms Suriyawadee was taken to Patong hospital, Col Nikorn added.

Source: http://www.phuketgaz...dent-20242.html

-- Phuket Gazette 2013-02-15

[Carib]

It`s called Karma

[Payboy]

Brake failure

More like failure to brake.

[KarenBravo]

It`s called Karma

You obviously don't know the meaning of Karma.

To enlighten you, this life depends on the actions of your previous life and your next life depends on the actions of this life.

That's if you are a believer.

[canopus1969]

Hope the driver suffered serious injuries for his trouble

[Carib]

It`s called Karma

You obviously don't know the meaning of Karma.

To enlighten you, this life depends on the actions of your previous life and your next life depends on the actions of this life.

That's if you are a believer.

No need to enlighten me KB, but you know what I did mean; it was payback time with his second accident because he ran from the first.

[madmitch]

Have they actually found the driver to confirm brake failure or have the experts already examined the bus to confirm this.

More likely the driver sped away from the first and lost control of the vehicle. But admitting this would cause a loss of face for the highly-trained professional Pegas bus driver so brake failure sounds better.

Patong Hill has become the new hub of brake failures.

[BradinAsia]

It`s called Karma

You obviously don't know the meaning of Karma.

To enlighten you, this life depends on the actions of your previous life and your next life depends on the actions of this life.

That's if you are a believer.

In Buddhism, the concept of karma is not nearly so simple and narrow as you suggest.

According to Thanissaro Bhikkhu, the abbot of Metta Forest Monastery:

"... karma acts in multiple feedback loops, with the present moment being shaped both by past and by present actions; present actions shape not only the future but also the present. Furthermore, present actions need not be determined by past actions. In other words, there is free will, although its range is somewhat dictated by the past. The nature of this freedom is symbolized in an image used by the early Buddhists: flowing water. Sometimes the flow from the past is so strong that little can be done except to stand fast, but there are also times when the flow is gentle enough to be diverted in almost any direction.

So, instead of promoting resigned powerlessness, the early Buddhist notion of karma focused on the liberating potential of what the mind is doing with every moment. Who you are — what you come from — is not anywhere near as important as the mind's motives for what it is doing right now. Even though the past may account for many of the inequalities we see in life, our measure as human beings is not the hand we've been dealt, for that hand can change at any moment. We take our own measure by how well we play the hand we've got.

If you're suffering, you try not to continue the unskillful mental habits that would keep that particular karmic feedback going. If you see that other people are suffering, and you're in a position to help, you focus not on their karmic past but your karmic opportunity in the present: Someday you may find yourself in the same predicament that they're in now, so here's your opportunity to act in the way you'd like them to act toward you when that day comes. This belief that one's dignity is measured, not by one's past, but by one's present actions."

[Tanaka]

Pegas Touristik. Again. How many of their drivers have caused bus crashes and injured and killed people? If the authorities (I know, oxymoron) on Phuket had any balls, they would shut down Pegas immediately. And being led by russians who do not have permission to work the kind of work t hey do, they should be forced to leave the country.

[toysupra80]

It`s called Karma

You obviously don't know the meaning of Karma.

To enlighten you, this life depends on the actions of your previous life and your next life depends on the actions of this life.

That's if you are a believer.

In Buddhism, the concept of karma is not nearly so simple and narrow as you suggest.

According to Thanissaro Bhikkhu, the abbot of Metta Forest Monastery:

"... karma acts in multiple feedback loops, with the present moment being shaped both by past and by present actions; present actions shape not only the future but also the present. Furthermore, present actions need not be determined by past actions. In other words, there is free will, although its range is somewhat dictated by the past. The nature of this freedom is symbolized in an image used by the early Buddhists: flowing water. Sometimes the flow from the past is so strong that little can be done except to stand fast, but there are also times when the flow is gentle enough to be diverted in almost any direction.

So, instead of promoting resigned powerlessness, the early Buddhist notion of karma focused on the liberating potential of what the mind is doing with every moment. Who you are — what you come from — is not anywhere near as important as the mind's motives for what it is doing right now. Even though the past may account for many of the inequalities we see in life, our measure as human beings is not the hand we've been dealt, for that hand can change at any moment. We take our own measure by how well we play the hand we've got.

If you're suffering, you try not to continue the unskillful mental habits that would keep that particular karmic feedback going. If you see that other people are suffering, and you're in a position to help, you focus not on their karmic past but your karmic opportunity in the present: Someday you may find yourself in the same predicament that they're in now, so here's your opportunity to act in the way you'd like them to act toward you when that day comes. This belief that one's dignity is measured, not by one's past, but by one's present actions."

Well said!

[renrut salohcin]

It`s called Karma

You obviously don't know the meaning of Karma.

To enlighten you, this life depends on the actions of your previous life and your next life depends on the actions of this life.

That's if you are a believer.

In Buddhism, the concept of karma is not nearly so simple and narrow as you suggest.

According to Thanissaro Bhikkhu, the abbot of Metta Forest Monastery:

"... karma acts in multiple feedback loops, with the present moment being shaped both by past and by present actions; present actions shape not only the future but also the present. Furthermore, present actions need not be determined by past actions. In other words, there is free will, although its range is somewhat dictated by the past. The nature of this freedom is symbolized in an image used by the early Buddhists: flowing water. Sometimes the flow from the past is so strong that little can be done except to stand fast, but there are also times when the flow is gentle enough to be diverted in almost any direction.

So, instead of promoting resigned powerlessness, the early Buddhist notion of karma focused on the liberating potential of what the mind is doing with every moment. Who you are — what you come from — is not anywhere near as important as the mind's motives for what it is doing right now. Even though the past may account for many of the inequalities we see in life, our measure as human beings is not the hand we've been dealt, for that hand can change at any moment. We take our own measure by how well we play the hand we've got.

If you're suffering, you try not to continue the unskillful mental habits that would keep that particular karmic feedback going. If you see that other people are suffering, and you're in a position to help, you focus not on their karmic past but your karmic opportunity in the present: Someday you may find yourself in the same predicament that they're in now, so here's your opportunity to act in the way you'd like them to act toward you when that day comes. This belief that one's dignity is measured, not by one's past, but by one's present actions."

Very interesting. Thanks for that.

[blackthorn2005]

It`s called Karma

In Phuket it's called a regular occurrence.

[wprime]

Som nom na - Pegas are by far the worst buses on the roads - they make van drivers look like old lady drivers, the pegas buses I've seen cause accidents/near accidents is downright frightening.

[LivinginKata]

Som nom na - Pegas are by far the worst buses on the roads - they make van drivers look like old lady drivers, the pegas buses I've seen cause accidents/near accidents is downright frightening.

Might be that Pegas appear to have a large % of the buses on Phuket roads.

[vijer]

On the way down Patong Hill near Wat Suwankiriwong (map here), after the accident with Ms Suriyawadee, the brakes on the bus failed . With no brakes, the out of control bus hit a utility pole, Col Nikorn said.

Only a moron can't stop a vehicle without brakes. Bus = manual transmission. Jamb it into 1st gear and let the clutch out it will slow way down. Then turn off the engine, it will stop. No sense being out of control.

On a side note, I will always believe it is the motorcyclists' fault, especially a 54 year old. Sorry I have watched too many of them operate their motorbikes to form any other opinion.

[espinoza]

Brake failure

More like failure to brake.

Why does brake failure happen ?

Because of Thai way of maintenance.

[KarenBravo]

It`s called Karma

You obviously don't know the meaning of Karma.

To enlighten you, this life depends on the actions of your previous life and your next life depends on the actions of this life.

That's if you are a believer.

In Buddhism, the concept of karma is not nearly so simple and narrow as you suggest.

According to Thanissaro Bhikkhu, the abbot of Metta Forest Monastery:

"... karma acts in multiple feedback loops, with the present moment being shaped both by past and by present actions; present actions shape not only the future but also the present. Furthermore, present actions need not be determined by past actions. In other words, there is free will, although its range is somewhat dictated by the past. The nature of this freedom is symbolized in an image used by the early Buddhists: flowing water. Sometimes the flow from the past is so strong that little can be done except to stand fast, but there are also times when the flow is gentle enough to be diverted in almost any direction.

So, instead of promoting resigned powerlessness, the early Buddhist notion of karma focused on the liberating potential of what the mind is doing with every moment. Who you are — what you come from — is not anywhere near as important as the mind's motives for what it is doing right now. Even though the past may account for many of the inequalities we see in life, our measure as human beings is not the hand we've been dealt, for that hand can change at any moment. We take our own measure by how well we play the hand we've got.

If you're suffering, you try not to continue the unskillful mental habits that would keep that particular karmic feedback going. If you see that other people are suffering, and you're in a position to help, you focus not on their karmic past but your karmic opportunity in the present: Someday you may find yourself in the same predicament that they're in now, so here's your opportunity to act in the way you'd like them to act toward you when that day comes. This belief that one's dignity is measured, not by one's past, but by one's present actions."

A load of old dingo's kidneys.

Thank God I'm an atheist!

Edited February 15, 2013 by KarenBravo

[Payboy]

It`s called Karma

In Phuket it's called a regular occurrence.

Yeah, that's Norma.

[Guest]

Som nom na - Pegas are by far the worst buses on the roads - they make van drivers look like old lady drivers, the pegas buses I've seen cause accidents/near accidents is downright frightening.

Might be that Pegas appear to have a large % of the buses on Phuket roads.

That's probably one part of the truth.

I used to know one quite large tourist company which also operated here in Phuket. They used 2 bus companies to transport their clients. First one was great. Buses were well taken care, always clean, no problems at all. Their drivers were old men who were always polite and calm. They also drove in the way skilled drivers do. The drivers were proud of their well kept buses and the work they did. Happy people work well.

The other company was quite the opposite. Guides of the company regularly complained about the company, buses, drivers, attitude, but there the deal had been done and I suppose there was no alternatives available at that time. Luckily there were no serious accidents during the time.

It's up to the management of the transportation company, how their staff works. The same can be seen in any kind of business.

[wprime]

Som nom na - Pegas are by far the worst buses on the roads - they make van drivers look like old lady drivers, the pegas buses I've seen cause accidents/near accidents is downright frightening.

Might be that Pegas appear to have a large % of the buses on Phuket roads.

Not specifically Phuket roads, everywhere. Almost every time I see a car being run off the road by a bus, traffic compressing due to a slow merging bus, vehicles making dangerous undertakes to get around a bus refusing to merge left, a bus sitting within 30cm of my rear bumper, buses speeding through suburban traffic, sure as clockwork I'll see the Pegas logo.

There's definitely something specific to the company, another tourbus company called Oak's Transport I've noticed drives very considerately.

[Johnnie99]

Have they actually found the driver to confirm brake failure or have the experts already examined the bus to confirm this.

More likely the driver sped away from the first and lost control of the vehicle. But admitting this would cause a loss of face for the highly-trained professional Pegas bus driver so brake failure sounds better.

Patong Hill has become the new hub of brake failures.

That's a terribly charitable post.

[madmitch]

Have they actually found the driver to confirm brake failure or have the experts already examined the bus to confirm this.

More likely the driver sped away from the first and lost control of the vehicle. But admitting this would cause a loss of face for the highly-trained professional Pegas bus driver so brake failure sounds better.

Patong Hill has become the new hub of brake failures.

That's a terribly charitable post.

It was supposed to be ironic, not charitable.