14 Foods You Should Never Eat

[ravip]

http://healthyliving.msn.com/nutrition/14-foods-you-should-never-eat#7

Some interesting food facts

[Jingthing]

No bread? That's harsh.

[lemoncake]

Reading some of the "healthy living" advisers, one might as well kill himself by starving to death.

You live your life only once, and i personally prefer to have a shorter but happier life than long and boring one

[cooked]

No bread? That's harsh.

No 'bread' isn't a problem. Most people these days have never eaten real bread, which is very healthy. The GUNK that has bread written on the plastic wrapping is NOT bread.

[Sheryl]

The referenced site does not contain "food facts", it contains the beliefs of one particular author whose claims and advice are not accepted or supported by mainstream medicine.

Highly processed bread, like all highly processed carbs, is certainly best avoided or at least minimized, but there is no general consensus on avoiding wheat per se and it is the staple of many countries' diets.

[ravip]

For a layperson, weeding through the fact & fiction has become quite a difficult procedure!

[robblok]

For a layperson, weeding through the fact & fiction has become quite a difficult procedure!

It is but you learn more and more. Though mainstream is not always right. Cornsyrup is real bad even though many deny it is. I just read a lot and there are a lot of things similar in all the diets / views. Then i just go for those and check what works for me for the rest.

Its not as hard as it seems it just takes time.

[ravip]

The referenced site does not contain "food facts", it contains the beliefs of one particular author whose claims and advice are not accepted or supported by mainstream medicine.

Highly processed bread, like all highly processed carbs, is certainly best avoided or at least minimized, but there is no general consensus on avoiding wheat per se and it is the staple of many countries' diets.

How about food that contains 'hydrolyzed' ingredients? Do these too belong to the 'best avoided or at least minimized' category?

[robblok]

Reading some of the "healthy living" advisers, one might as well kill himself by starving to death.

You live your life only once, and i personally prefer to have a shorter but happier life than long and boring one

It kinda depends on your point of what makes you happy. I derive happiness from not being overweight. But to maintain that you don't have to go to extremes. Besides you can find some middle ground. People advertising under 30 grams of carbs a day.. not my idea of fun, but being low in carbs (not that low) is not that hard.

[lemoncake]

Reading some of the "healthy living" advisers, one might as well kill himself by starving to death.

You live your life only once, and i personally prefer to have a shorter but happier life than long and boring one

It kinda depends on your point of what makes you happy. I derive happiness from not being overweight. But to maintain that you don't have to go to extremes. Besides you can find some middle ground. People advertising under 30 grams of carbs a day.. not my idea of fun, but being low in carbs (not that low) is not that hard.

true true

i spent half of my life watching and timing what and when i eat, now i am catching up on everything i missed out on

Surprisingly, i kept the same weight but yet got fat, , so now have more of me to love

[robblok]

Reading some of the "healthy living" advisers, one might as well kill himself by starving to death.

You live your life only once, and i personally prefer to have a shorter but happier life than long and boring one

It kinda depends on your point of what makes you happy. I derive happiness from not being overweight. But to maintain that you don't have to go to extremes. Besides you can find some middle ground. People advertising under 30 grams of carbs a day.. not my idea of fun, but being low in carbs (not that low) is not that hard.

true true

i spent half of my life watching and timing what and when i eat, now i am catching up on everything i missed out on

Surprisingly, i kept the same weight but yet got fat, , so now have more of me to love

Im quite happy that the 6 times a day timed for body-builders was proven false. I just eat 3 meals as i always have done. I watch my food and have my occasional fun but i must say in general its not that hard once you get used to it.

But keeping a weight is easier as loosing weight then you need to mind more what your doing.

[Tolley]

The referenced site does not contain "food facts", it contains the beliefs of one particular author whose claims and advice are not accepted or supported by mainstream medicine.

Highly processed bread, like all highly processed carbs, is certainly best avoided or at least minimized, but there is no general consensus on avoiding wheat per se and it is the staple of many countries' diets.

I was reading an article only a couple of days ago about how removing gluten from the diet improved the diet and health of many people. Many people suffer from gluten intolerance so I wouldnt dismiss ditching bread from the diet.

I eat a bit of bread myself but it is organic sprouted wheat bread and I only have maybe one slice a day. Most of the bread on sale in shops is rubbish as well. The other fact is of course if you are trying to lose weight it might be better to stop eating bread altogether.

Here is an interesting take on bread. Tropo will like this one as it implicates bread in sugar spikes.

http://authoritynutrition.com/why-is-bread-bad-for-you/

Edited February 17, 2013 by Tolley

[robblok]

The referenced site does not contain "food facts", it contains the beliefs of one particular author whose claims and advice are not accepted or supported by mainstream medicine.

Highly processed bread, like all highly processed carbs, is certainly best avoided or at least minimized, but there is no general consensus on avoiding wheat per se and it is the staple of many countries' diets.

I was reading an article only a couple of days ago about how removing gluten from the diet improved the diet and health of many people. Many people suffer from gluten intolerance so I wouldnt dismiss ditching bread from the diet.

I eat a bit of bread myself but it is organic sprouted wheat bread and I only have maybe one slice a day. Most of the bread on sale in shops is rubbish as well. The other fact is of course if you are trying to lose weight it might be better to stop eating bread altogether.

Here is an interesting take on bread. Tropo will like this one as it implicates bread in sugar spikes.

http://authoritynutr...ad-bad-for-you/

Of course bread (especially the crap you buy here in most supermarkets) causes sugar spikes. But well made bread does that a lot less.

Anyway i have had an food allergy test done no alergies at all.. not gluten not lactose. Did the test for sinus problems to see if an allergy was causing it.

Anyway I eat little bread as i find its not the most healthy thing and good stuff is hard to get where i live but i do eat my grains.

[Tolley]

The referenced site does not contain "food facts", it contains the beliefs of one particular author whose claims and advice are not accepted or supported by mainstream medicine.

Highly processed bread, like all highly processed carbs, is certainly best avoided or at least minimized, but there is no general consensus on avoiding wheat per se and it is the staple of many countries' diets.

I was reading an article only a couple of days ago about how removing gluten from the diet improved the diet and health of many people. Many people suffer from gluten intolerance so I wouldnt dismiss ditching bread from the diet.

I eat a bit of bread myself but it is organic sprouted wheat bread and I only have maybe one slice a day. Most of the bread on sale in shops is rubbish as well. The other fact is of course if you are trying to lose weight it might be better to stop eating bread altogether.

Here is an interesting take on bread. Tropo will like this one as it implicates bread in sugar spikes.

http://authoritynutr...ad-bad-for-you/

Of course bread (especially the crap you buy here in most supermarkets) causes sugar spikes. But well made bread does that a lot less.

Anyway i have had an food allergy test done no alergies at all.. not gluten not lactose. Did the test for sinus problems to see if an allergy was causing it.

Anyway I eat little bread as i find its not the most healthy thing and good stuff is hard to get where i live but i do eat my grains.

I was surprised that even whole grain breads cause big sugar spikes as I thought it was only white bread that did that. So after reading that I am going to make a more conscious effort to avoid bread wherever possible.

[robblok]

The referenced site does not contain "food facts", it contains the beliefs of one particular author whose claims and advice are not accepted or supported by mainstream medicine.

Highly processed bread, like all highly processed carbs, is certainly best avoided or at least minimized, but there is no general consensus on avoiding wheat per se and it is the staple of many countries' diets.

I was reading an article only a couple of days ago about how removing gluten from the diet improved the diet and health of many people. Many people suffer from gluten intolerance so I wouldnt dismiss ditching bread from the diet.

I eat a bit of bread myself but it is organic sprouted wheat bread and I only have maybe one slice a day. Most of the bread on sale in shops is rubbish as well. The other fact is of course if you are trying to lose weight it might be better to stop eating bread altogether.

Here is an interesting take on bread. Tropo will like this one as it implicates bread in sugar spikes.

http://authoritynutr...ad-bad-for-you/

Of course bread (especially the crap you buy here in most supermarkets) causes sugar spikes. But well made bread does that a lot less.

Anyway i have had an food allergy test done no alergies at all.. not gluten not lactose. Did the test for sinus problems to see if an allergy was causing it.

Anyway I eat little bread as i find its not the most healthy thing and good stuff is hard to get where i live but i do eat my grains.

I was surprised that even whole grain breads cause big sugar spikes as I thought it was only white bread that did that. So after reading that I am going to make a more conscious effort to avoid bread wherever possible.

Even my oats cause a spike but its quickly back to normal. Have you ever really tested yourself. I mean you should not worry if it gets back quite fast.

Its not evil for everyone some people tolerate it ok, i can take it and have no problems with it. Just see other things as a bit more healthy. But for some quality of life goes first.

Some people on here even advocate going under 30 grams of carbs a day something i could never do.

[Tolley]

It is not just that it is all the other evidence against eating bread. It just seems that overall you are better avoiding it for many general health reasons.

[robblok]

It is not just that it is all the other evidence against eating bread. It just seems that overall you are better avoiding it for many general health reasons.

It all depends if you have a gluten problem and insulin problem. If not.. then no worries. It might not be the best thing but its not evil either.

I sometimes go weeks without bread then a week with a few days where i eat a slice with some peanut butter. (whole wheat bread of course)

[Sheryl]

It all depends if you have a gluten problem and insulin problem. If not.. then no worries. It might not be the best thing but its not evil either.

Exactly.

Most people do not have gluten intolerance. Of course, those who do, need to avoid bread. But that is a minority of people.

People with abnormal glucose metabolism (diabetes, pre-diabetes, insulin resistance) CAN eat bread but need to do so in great moderation and are better off with whole grains.

Bear in mind that whole grains contain a lot of valuable nutrients.

Making one's own bread is a good way to know exactly what is (and is not) in it, and also the best way in Thailand to get bread that tastes good since the commercial brands here leave a lot to be desired in both taste and nutrients. It is easy to make bread if you invest in a bread making machine.

A spike in blood sugar after eating is normal and as long as it returns to normal within a few hours. Your food is supposed to yield glucose and it will first be in your blood and then transported into the cells. It is when that process is impaired that you need to be careful.

[Sheryl]

For a layperson, weeding through the fact & fiction has become quite a difficult procedure!

Especially if you get your health information from the general media. I have yet to see a media article that correctly conveyed the results of a scientific study, even when the study in questions (a) existed (not always the case and (b ) was properly done (ditto).

The links given in thsi thread are exactly the sort of sources that will confuse and mislead. I suggest going directly to the source scientific journals (and if the information did nto derive from same, taking it with a BIG grain of salt).

This is a good site for getting concise summaries of research findings that were published in peer reviewed journals http://www.ncbi.nlm....v/pubmedhealth/

[Sheryl]

How about food that contains 'hydrolyzed' ingredients? Do these too belong to the 'best avoided or at least minimized' category?

Hydrolyzed simply means that through the addition of water, chemical bonds were broken. This also happens when you eat anything, through your salivia and gastric juices, i.e. everything you eat becomes hydrolyzed before it is absorbed.

So it is not innately bad, but it does mean the food in question is in a partially digested form already. IF you are diabetic/pre-diabetic, you might want to minimize food with hydrolyzed ingrediants as they will have a higher glycemic index than non-hydrolyzed foods (in other words, same calories but the spike in blood sugar will come more quickly).

This is referring to foods that can be obtained in non-hydrolyzed form. Certain foods cannot be made, or are not edible, without hydrolyzation.

If you are not diabetic/pre-diabetic then ingrediants being hydrolyzed does not need to be a concern in itself. But I think you will find that many foods with hydrolyzed ingrediants have other problems as well such as food additives, lots of sodium etc.

Simply sticking to as much fresh food as possible rather than processed is a good rule of thumb. Which is not to say that occasional ingestion of processed food is terrible. It's not. But a diet that consists heavily of processed foods isn't the best, for all sorts of reasons....glycemic index, sodium, lack of fiber, loss of some nutrients, food additives etc.

[naboo]

I opened the link, saw 'genetically mutated' and closed it. Someone claiming to know stuff.

Every living thing is genetically mutated so I assume the author doesn't eat.?.

[Sheryl]

As I said, these are nto the sort of sources one should bother with

http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/1990-08-06/

[Tolley]

It all depends if you have a gluten problem and insulin problem. If not.. then no worries. It might not be the best thing but its not evil either.

Exactly.

Most people do not have gluten intolerance. Of course, those who do, need to avoid bread. But that is a minority of people.

People with abnormal glucose metabolism (diabetes, pre-diabetes, insulin resistance) CAN eat bread but need to do so in great moderation and are better off with whole grains.

Bear in mind that whole grains contain a lot of valuable nutrients.

Making one's own bread is a good way to know exactly what is (and is not) in it, and also the best way in Thailand to get bread that tastes good since the commercial brands here leave a lot to be desired in both taste and nutrients. It is easy to make bread if you invest in a bread making machine.

A spike in blood sugar after eating is normal and as long as it returns to normal within a few hours. Your food is supposed to yield glucose and it will first be in your blood and then transported into the cells. It is when that process is impaired that you need to be careful.

The article i was reading earlier in the week stated that many who gave up bread felt much better and those people were not necessarily diagnosed with a gluten intolerance. In fact according to the article gluten intolerance is very hard to assess. The researchers didnt even understand why.

[Sheryl]

And what about all the people who eat bread and feel just fine?

I have no problem with the suggestion that someone with vague physical discomforts for which no other cause could be found, making a trial of eliminating gluten, especially if the physical discomfort is GI in nature. Nothing to lose by trying and sometimes it will do the trick.

But to imply that everyone (most of whom do not need to feel better as they are already feeling fine) should avoid bread (as the OP citation did) is IMO over the top and unnecessary.

[infinity11]

Anyone have any luck with the eat for your blood type diet.

BTW I am learly of webistes that list 10 or 15 things and you need to click for each seperate thing, commercial hype, but maye i am missing out on something.

(did not read entire threadt yet)

Edited February 19, 2013 by infinity11

[tropo]

The referenced site does not contain "food facts", it contains the beliefs of one particular author whose claims and advice are not accepted or supported by mainstream medicine.

Highly processed bread, like all highly processed carbs, is certainly best avoided or at least minimized, but there is no general consensus on avoiding wheat per se and it is the staple of many countries' diets.

I was reading an article only a couple of days ago about how removing gluten from the diet improved the diet and health of many people. Many people suffer from gluten intolerance so I wouldnt dismiss ditching bread from the diet.

I eat a bit of bread myself but it is organic sprouted wheat bread and I only have maybe one slice a day. Most of the bread on sale in shops is rubbish as well. The other fact is of course if you are trying to lose weight it might be better to stop eating bread altogether.

Here is an interesting take on bread. Tropo will like this one as it implicates bread in sugar spikes.

http://authoritynutr...ad-bad-for-you/

Of course bread (especially the crap you buy here in most supermarkets) causes sugar spikes. But well made bread does that a lot less.

Anyway i have had an food allergy test done no alergies at all.. not gluten not lactose. Did the test for sinus problems to see if an allergy was causing it.

Anyway I eat little bread as i find its not the most healthy thing and good stuff is hard to get where i live but i do eat my grains.

I was surprised that even whole grain breads cause big sugar spikes as I thought it was only white bread that did that. So after reading that I am going to make a more conscious effort to avoid bread wherever possible.

If you have glucose intolerance to any extent, it doesn't matter what colour or quality the bread is. The only way to prevent sugar spikes is to limit carbs - all types of carbs. Didn't we just recently have a brown rice/white rice debate? If you can't handle white rice you won't be able to handle brown rice either.

[uptheos]

You live your life only once, and i personally prefer to have a shorter but happier life than long and boring one

If we could guarantee a quick check out, yes you are right.

However, with foods that clog up the arteries, cause diabetes etc, it's not as easy as you say. I have seen people in the health system that had the very same attitude, but would give anything to go back and change it, rather than laying in bed paralysed from a stroke, having a leg amputation or going blind due to diabetes.

[nidieunimaitre]

Best to avoid lasagna these days.

[uptheos]

Best to avoid lasagna these days.

Gives you the trots.

[Potosi]

Rye bread, best in the variety whole-grain bread. Nothing but health benefits, no health risks documented. Seems to be unknown in the US (the article is by MSN), but there are way more rye bread than wheat bread recipies in Europe. It's what we call 'bread', and the travesties made from wheat have other names. Like 'Baguettes'.