barrybankruad Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Does anyone remember the photo that was probably the most famous journalistic picture to come out of the war in Vietnam? I am, of course, referring to the photo of the little girl running naked from her village which the Americans had just napalmed. I don't recall there being much of an uproar over that, it demonstrated perfectly the horrors of that conflict. I do however agree that the Thai authorities could have been more sensitive when photographing this little girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 (edited) Does anyone remember the photo that was probably the most famous journalistic picture to come out of the war in Vietnam? I am, of course, referring to the photo of the little girl running naked from her village which the Americans had just napalmed. I don't recall there being much of an uproar over that, it demonstrated perfectly the horrors of that conflict. I do however agree that the Thai authorities could have been more sensitive when photographing this little girl. !00% correct, but it didn't fade away as this story probably will. From memory, it was one of the factors that started to turn the tide on the US in Vietnam Edited February 20, 2013 by Artisi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Okay, let me just get a grip on this: 1) a Thai- couple kidnaps a little Karen-girl 2) They keep her as their personal slave 3) They mistreat her in the cruelest of ways 4) the girls manages to escape, runs to the police...who return her to her dungeon- masters 5) the torturing continues 6) the child escapes a second time 7) the torturers are set free on bail 8) the little girl is paraded in front a bunch of (male) photographers, halfnaked 9) the torturers skip bail and are now gone with a reward of 100.000 baht on their heads 10) as we see in the OP, the girl is paraded again in front of (male) photographers ...is there anything else, the Thai- "authoroties" could have done wrong, to make it even worse? Anything??? Doc while appreciating what you say. A picture tells a thousand words. Without the pics, this story would have quickly become yesterdays news. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocN Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Okay, let me just get a grip on this: 1) a Thai- couple kidnaps a little Karen-girl 2) They keep her as their personal slave 3) They mistreat her in the cruelest of ways 4) the girls manages to escape, runs to the police...who return her to her dungeon- masters 5) the torturing continues 6) the child escapes a second time 7) the torturers are set free on bail 8) the little girl is paraded in front a bunch of (male) photographers, halfnaked 9) the torturers skip bail and are now gone with a reward of 100.000 baht on their heads 10) as we see in the OP, the girl is paraded again in front of (male) photographers ...is there anything else, the Thai- "authoroties" could have done wrong, to make it even worse? Anything??? Doc while appreciating what you say. A picture tells a thousand words. Without the pics, this story would have quickly become yesterdays news. As I stated before : it is not THE PICTURE itself, that is the problem. You are right: it made the cruelty of this crime visible. I am having problems, with the way the picture(s) were taken. Put her in a room with a (female) doctor and 1 female photographer. You get the same shocking pictures, but spare her, parading half naked in front of an all male line- up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katana Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 A doctor at Rama hospital in BKK has said Nong Air, the girl tortured by the Thai couple, will require 2 years of continuous treatment with many operations. Her treatment should begin next week. The husband and wife couple responsible for her injuries are thought to be hiding out in Cambodia. Dr Totsaphorn Serirak, official spokesman for the office of the Prime Minister met with officials at Rama hospital this morning. He said he'd been in talks with Miss Anutama Amornwiwat, secretary for the Ministry of Social Development and Human Security and it's been decided that the government and Rama Hospital will take care and responsibility for the cost of all treatment for the girl. The most urgent treatment is to remove fascia and scar tissue in her left armpit which prevents her from extending her arm. The girl's mental health seems to have improved somewhat with her smiling more and taking part in a few play activities. Rama plastic surgeon Dr Arti Khreuawit said the most serious injury is on her left side in the region of her shoulder, armpit, elbow and chest, preventing her from extending her arm. This was the most pressing surgery. There were also bad injuries on her neck, back and thighs and he was of the opinion that she could still contact an infection through her injuries and die. Skin grafts will be required [although it's hard to see from where since there was so much skin damage.] Several operations will be necessary requiring at least 3-4 hours each with long periods of closely monitored convalescence. In all, 6 months to 2 years may be required. She will require surgeons and psychologists and the hospital will do all they can for her. In a short statement, Nong air said she was happy and confident the doctors could treat her. She also expressed a wish to go to school since it doesn't appear she can read and write. Arrangements are being made by Mr Tanawat Sathit, the manager at the children's home where she's staying, for some sort of tutoring to take place. Apparently 400,000 Baht's been donated so far from amongst others, Thailand’s Ministry of Social Development and Human Security, the Burmese government and members of the public. Police also added cryptically at the end of the article that they'd sent undercover officers in search of the missing Thai couple and they anticipate they can't remain out of Thailand for long and will have to return soon. They expect good news on this front in 2-3 days… Let’s hope all these promises are honoured and bear fruition. http://www.thairath....t/region/327850 (20/02/13; 14:47pm) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatboy Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 i wonder has a stop been put on their credit cards even a trace on their mobile phones or is that toooooooo sophisticated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sing_Sling Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 i wonder has a stop been put on their credit cards even a trace on their mobile phones or is that toooooooo sophisticated. They'll get around to it as soon as they can get their servers up and running again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywais Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 She's smiling in a mugshot . . . what a piece of garbage. I do hope that they are caught and punished to the maximum You think that's a smile? Isn't that from her Thai ID card? Yes. Examples here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 (edited) A doctor at Rama hospital in BKK has said Nong Air, the girl tortured by the Thai couple, will require 2 years of continuous treatment with many operations. Her treatment should begin next week. The husband and wife couple responsible for her injuries are thought to be hiding out in Cambodia. Dr Totsaphorn Serirak, official spokesman for the office of the Prime Minister met with officials at Rama hospital this morning. He said he'd been in talks with Miss Anutama Amornwiwat, secretary for the Ministry of Social Development and Human Security and it's been decided that the government and Rama Hospital will take care and responsibility for the cost of all treatment for the girl. The most urgent treatment is to remove fascia and scar tissue in her left armpit which prevents her from extending her arm. The girl's mental health seems to have improved somewhat with her smiling more and taking part in a few play activities. Rama plastic surgeon Dr Arti Khreuawit said the most serious injury is on her left side in the region of her shoulder, armpit, elbow and chest, preventing her from extending her arm. This was the most pressing surgery. There were also bad injuries on her neck, back and thighs and he was of the opinion that she could still contact an infection through her injuries and die. Skin grafts will be required [although it's hard to see from where since there was so much skin damage.] Several operations will be necessary requiring at least 3-4 hours each with long periods of closely monitored convalescence. In all, 6 months to 2 years may be required. She will require surgeons and psychologists and the hospital will do all they can for her. In a short statement, Nong air said she was happy and confident the doctors could treat her. She also expressed a wish to go to school since it doesn't appear she can read and write. Arrangements are being made by Mr Tanawat Sathit, the manager at the children's home where she's staying, for some sort of tutoring to take place. Apparently 400,000 Baht's been donated so far from amongst others, Thailand’s Ministry of Social Development and Human Security, the Burmese government and members of the public. Police also added cryptically at the end of the article that they'd sent undercover officers in search of the missing Thai couple and they anticipate they can't remain out of Thailand for long and will have to return soon. They expect good news on this front in 2-3 days… Let’s hope all these promises are honoured and bear fruition. http://www.thairath....t/region/327850 (20/02/13; 14:47pm) At last there seems to be some action, but it's a wait and see right now. Let's hope the promises are all kept and help this little girl to regain something close to normal life, and some education. Another worrying / dsigraceful aspect of this case is the report that a senior Thai military officer has helped the accused couple to escape, possibly into Cambodia. In any country surely one would expect that senior military, and police, officers are examples of high ethics and high morals, and espouse respect for the law and espouse proper and equal application of the law, etc., no matter where the gavel falls. This case has no grey areas (e.g. claims of finding them and court process being politicallly motivated), it's a serious case of kidnap of a child and torture of a child causing serious grieviouus bodily and emotional harm, in fact crimes against humanity. But the senior military man has ignored all of this and thrown morals and respect for proper application of the law to the wind, and no doubt for some extra spending money in his pocket. So how come senior military, and police, regularly and quickly take this route. The answer is simple: - Corruption - Buying promotions - Nepotism All of which means that people with little intelligence, little knowledge, zero capability, no morals or values, no respect for human rights can easily get to positions of power and high power and readily use the power for personal gain rather than for actions obviously assocaited with protecting the sovereignty of Thailand, and protection the people of Thailand, and have no hesitation to take actions as seen in this case. Until all of these factors are reduced massively none of this will change. The current and previous governments have given small lip service to this subject but in reality done nothing to gain change. The ball is firmly in the court of the younger generations to eventually stand up and say enough. And I believe the time will come when they do stand up, but unfortunately it's not tomorrow. There is always a catalyst which brings change and sometimes the catalyst is a factor not immediately associated. I suggest the day will come when Thais in large numbers will start to realize that the general population (the majority of the population) in many surrounding countries have a pretty good quality of life through their own productivity, brought about by good policies. Rather than 80% of the wealth of the country in the hands of a few, and with a large percentage of Thais close to or under the survival line. This, I believe, is when Thais in large numbers will start seriously demanding change and with coherent logic, and eventually win change and bring a much better spread of opportunity and wealth for all, gain respect for and equal application of the law, and make gains in terms of a fair and civil society. But it's not it's not tomorrow. Edited February 21, 2013 by scorecard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easton Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Simple solution really. Just have the judge that granted their bail stand trail in their place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthurboy Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 (edited) A doctor at Rama hospital in BKK has said Nong Air, the girl tortured by the Thai couple, will require 2 years of continuous treatment with many operations. Her treatment should begin next week. The husband and wife couple responsible for her injuries are thought to be hiding out in Cambodia. Dr Totsaphorn Serirak, official spokesman for the office of the Prime Minister met with officials at Rama hospital this morning. He said he'd been in talks with Miss Anutama Amornwiwat, secretary for the Ministry of Social Development and Human Security and it's been decided that the government and Rama Hospital will take care and responsibility for the cost of all treatment for the girl. The most urgent treatment is to remove fascia and scar tissue in her left armpit which prevents her from extending her arm. The girl's mental health seems to have improved somewhat with her smiling more and taking part in a few play activities. Rama plastic surgeon Dr Arti Khreuawit said the most serious injury is on her left side in the region of her shoulder, armpit, elbow and chest, preventing her from extending her arm. This was the most pressing surgery. There were also bad injuries on her neck, back and thighs and he was of the opinion that she could still contact an infection through her injuries and die. Skin grafts will be required [although it's hard to see from where since there was so much skin damage.] Several operations will be necessary requiring at least 3-4 hours each with long periods of closely monitored convalescence. In all, 6 months to 2 years may be required. She will require surgeons and psychologists and the hospital will do all they can for her. In a short statement, Nong air said she was happy and confident the doctors could treat her. She also expressed a wish to go to school since it doesn't appear she can read and write. Arrangements are being made by Mr Tanawat Sathit, the manager at the children's home where she's staying, for some sort of tutoring to take place. Apparently 400,000 Baht's been donated so far from amongst others, Thailand’s Ministry of Social Development and Human Security, the Burmese government and members of the public. Police also added cryptically at the end of the article that they'd sent undercover officers in search of the missing Thai couple and they anticipate they can't remain out of Thailand for long and will have to return soon. They expect good news on this front in 2-3 days… Let’s hope all these promises are honoured and bear fruition. http://www.thairath....t/region/327850 (20/02/13; 14:47pm) At last there seems to be some action, but it's a wait and see right now. Let's hope the promises are all kept and help this little girl to regain something close to normal life, and some education.Another worrying / dsigraceful aspect of this case is the report that a senior Thai military officer has helped the accused couple to escape, possibly into Cambodia. In any country surely one would expect that senior military, and police, officers are examples of high ethics and high morals, and espouse respect for the law and espouse proper and equal application of the law, etc., no matter where the gavel falls. This case has no grey areas (e.g. claims of finding them and court process being politicallly motivated), it's a serious case of kidnap of a child and torture of a child causing serious grieviouus bodily and emotional harm, in fact crimes against humanity. But the senior military man has ignored all of this and thrown morals and respect for proper application of the law to the wind, and no doubt for some extra spending money in his pocket. So how come senior military, and police, regularly and quickly take this route. The answer is simple: - Corruption - Buying promotions - Nepotism All of which means that people with little intelligence, little knowledge, zero capability, no morals or values, no respect for human rights can easily get to positions of power and high power and readily use the power for personal gain rather than for actions obviously assocaited with protecting the sovereignty of Thailand, and protection the people of Thailand, and have no hesitation to take actions as seen in this case. Until all of these factors are reduced massively none of this will change. The current and previous governments have given small lip service to this subject but in reality done nothing to gain change. The ball is firmly in the court of the younger generations to eventually stand up and say enough. And I believe the time will come when they do stand up, but unfortunately it's not tomorrow. There is always a catalyst which brings change and sometimes the catalyst is a factor not immediately associated. I suggest the day will come when Thais in large numbers will start to realize that the general population (the majority of the population) in many surrounding countries have a pretty good quality of life through their own productivity, brought about by good policies. Rather than 80% of the wealth of the country in the hands of a few, and with a large percentage of Thais close to or under the survival line. This, I believe, is when Thais in large numbers will start seriously demanding change and with coherent logic, and eventually win change and bring a much better spread of opportunity and wealth for all, gain respect for and equal application of the law, and make gains in terms of a fair and civil society. But it's not it's not tomorrow. Thank you for your posts. Edited February 25, 2013 by arthurboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyesWideOpen Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 A doctor at Rama hospital in BKK has said Nong Air, the girl tortured by the Thai couple, will require 2 years of continuous treatment with many operations. Her treatment should begin next week. The husband and wife couple responsible for her injuries are thought to be hiding out in Cambodia. Dr Totsaphorn Serirak, official spokesman for the office of the Prime Minister met with officials at Rama hospital this morning. He said he'd been in talks with Miss Anutama Amornwiwat, secretary for the Ministry of Social Development and Human Security and it's been decided that the government and Rama Hospital will take care and responsibility for the cost of all treatment for the girl. The most urgent treatment is to remove fascia and scar tissue in her left armpit which prevents her from extending her arm. The girl's mental health seems to have improved somewhat with her smiling more and taking part in a few play activities. Rama plastic surgeon Dr Arti Khreuawit said the most serious injury is on her left side in the region of her shoulder, armpit, elbow and chest, preventing her from extending her arm. This was the most pressing surgery. There were also bad injuries on her neck, back and thighs and he was of the opinion that she could still contact an infection through her injuries and die. Skin grafts will be required [although it's hard to see from where since there was so much skin damage.] Several operations will be necessary requiring at least 3-4 hours each with long periods of closely monitored convalescence. In all, 6 months to 2 years may be required. She will require surgeons and psychologists and the hospital will do all they can for her. In a short statement, Nong air said she was happy and confident the doctors could treat her. She also expressed a wish to go to school since it doesn't appear she can read and write. Arrangements are being made by Mr Tanawat Sathit, the manager at the children's home where she's staying, for some sort of tutoring to take place. Apparently 400,000 Baht's been donated so far from amongst others, Thailand’s Ministry of Social Development and Human Security, the Burmese government and members of the public. Police also added cryptically at the end of the article that they'd sent undercover officers in search of the missing Thai couple and they anticipate they can't remain out of Thailand for long and will have to return soon. They expect good news on this front in 2-3 days… Let’s hope all these promises are honoured and bear fruition. http://www.thairath....t/region/327850 (20/02/13; 14:47pm) At last there seems to be some action, but it's a wait and see right now. Let's hope the promises are all kept and help this little girl to regain something close to normal life, and some education. Another worrying / dsigraceful aspect of this case is the report that a senior Thai military officer has helped the accused couple to escape, possibly into Cambodia. In any country surely one would expect that senior military, and police, officers are examples of high ethics and high morals, and espouse respect for the law and espouse proper and equal application of the law, etc., no matter where the gavel falls. This case has no grey areas (e.g. claims of finding them and court process being politicallly motivated), it's a serious case of kidnap of a child and torture of a child causing serious grieviouus bodily and emotional harm, in fact crimes against humanity. But the senior military man has ignored all of this and thrown morals and respect for proper application of the law to the wind, and no doubt for some extra spending money in his pocket. So how come senior military, and police, regularly and quickly take this route. The answer is simple: - Corruption - Buying promotions - Nepotism All of which means that people with little intelligence, little knowledge, zero capability, no morals or values, no respect for human rights can easily get to positions of power and high power and readily use the power for personal gain rather than for actions obviously assocaited with protecting the sovereignty of Thailand, and protection the people of Thailand, and have no hesitation to take actions as seen in this case. Until all of these factors are reduced massively none of this will change. The current and previous governments have given small lip service to this subject but in reality done nothing to gain change. The ball is firmly in the court of the younger generations to eventually stand up and say enough. And I believe the time will come when they do stand up, but unfortunately it's not tomorrow. There is always a catalyst which brings change and sometimes the catalyst is a factor not immediately associated. I suggest the day will come when Thais in large numbers will start to realize that the general population (the majority of the population) in many surrounding countries have a pretty good quality of life through their own productivity, brought about by good policies. Rather than 80% of the wealth of the country in the hands of a few, and with a large percentage of Thais close to or under the survival line. This, I believe, is when Thais in large numbers will start seriously demanding change and with coherent logic, and eventually win change and bring a much better spread of opportunity and wealth for all, gain respect for and equal application of the law, and make gains in terms of a fair and civil society. But it's not it's not tomorrow. Thank you for your posts. Yes an excellent post. Should Thailand actually wish to effect change, the model should be how Singapore reshaped itself and wiped out corruption in a few short years. 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jackspratt Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Should Thailand actually wish to effect change, the model should be how Singapore reshaped itself and wiped out corruption in a few short years Hopefully, not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimay1 Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 A doctor at Rama hospital in BKK has said Nong Air, the girl tortured by the Thai couple, will require 2 years of continuous treatment with many operations. Her treatment should begin next week. The husband and wife couple responsible for her injuries are thought to be hiding out in Cambodia. Dr Totsaphorn Serirak, official spokesman for the office of the Prime Minister met with officials at Rama hospital this morning. He said he'd been in talks with Miss Anutama Amornwiwat, secretary for the Ministry of Social Development and Human Security and it's been decided that the government and Rama Hospital will take care and responsibility for the cost of all treatment for the girl. The most urgent treatment is to remove fascia and scar tissue in her left armpit which prevents her from extending her arm. The girl's mental health seems to have improved somewhat with her smiling more and taking part in a few play activities. Rama plastic surgeon Dr Arti Khreuawit said the most serious injury is on her left side in the region of her shoulder, armpit, elbow and chest, preventing her from extending her arm. This was the most pressing surgery. There were also bad injuries on her neck, back and thighs and he was of the opinion that she could still contact an infection through her injuries and die. Skin grafts will be required [although it's hard to see from where since there was so much skin damage.] Several operations will be necessary requiring at least 3-4 hours each with long periods of closely monitored convalescence. In all, 6 months to 2 years may be required. She will require surgeons and psychologists and the hospital will do all they can for her. In a short statement, Nong air said she was happy and confident the doctors could treat her. She also expressed a wish to go to school since it doesn't appear she can read and write. Arrangements are being made by Mr Tanawat Sathit, the manager at the children's home where she's staying, for some sort of tutoring to take place. Apparently 400,000 Baht's been donated so far from amongst others, Thailand’s Ministry of Social Development and Human Security, the Burmese government and members of the public. Police also added cryptically at the end of the article that they'd sent undercover officers in search of the missing Thai couple and they anticipate they can't remain out of Thailand for long and will have to return soon. They expect good news on this front in 2-3 days… Let’s hope all these promises are honoured and bear fruition. http://www.thairath....t/region/327850 (20/02/13; 14:47pm) At last there seems to be some action, but it's a wait and see right now. Let's hope the promises are all kept and help this little girl to regain something close to normal life, and some education.Another worrying / dsigraceful aspect of this case is the report that a senior Thai military officer has helped the accused couple to escape, possibly into Cambodia. In any country surely one would expect that senior military, and police, officers are examples of high ethics and high morals, and espouse respect for the law and espouse proper and equal application of the law, etc., no matter where the gavel falls. This case has no grey areas (e.g. claims of finding them and court process being politicallly motivated), it's a serious case of kidnap of a child and torture of a child causing serious grieviouus bodily and emotional harm, in fact crimes against humanity. But the senior military man has ignored all of this and thrown morals and respect for proper application of the law to the wind, and no doubt for some extra spending money in his pocket. So how come senior military, and police, regularly and quickly take this route. The answer is simple: - Corruption - Buying promotions - Nepotism All of which means that people with little intelligence, little knowledge, zero capability, no morals or values, no respect for human rights can easily get to positions of power and high power and readily use the power for personal gain rather than for actions obviously assocaited with protecting the sovereignty of Thailand, and protection the people of Thailand, and have no hesitation to take actions as seen in this case. Until all of these factors are reduced massively none of this will change. The current and previous governments have given small lip service to this subject but in reality done nothing to gain change. The ball is firmly in the court of the younger generations to eventually stand up and say enough. And I believe the time will come when they do stand up, but unfortunately it's not tomorrow. There is always a catalyst which brings change and sometimes the catalyst is a factor not immediately associated. I suggest the day will come when Thais in large numbers will start to realize that the general population (the majority of the population) in many surrounding countries have a pretty good quality of life through their own productivity, brought about by good policies. Rather than 80% of the wealth of the country in the hands of a few, and with a large percentage of Thais close to or under the survival line. This, I believe, is when Thais in large numbers will start seriously demanding change and with coherent logic, and eventually win change and bring a much better spread of opportunity and wealth for all, gain respect for and equal application of the law, and make gains in terms of a fair and civil society. But it's not it's not tomorrow. Thank you for your posts. Yes an excellent post. Should Thailand actually wish to effect change, the model should be how Singapore reshaped itself and wiped out corruption in a few short years. There is little corruption in business practices at Singapore but there is rampant political corruption. The Lee family have total control of the government, Straight Times newspaper, police, judges all the way to the supreme court. When election time comes around the PAP (people's action party) will sue the opponents on some trumped up charge and bankrupt them, and normally a jail sentence follows. It is a total farce. The Singaporean people are totally afraid to speak out against the government and rightly so. There are many plain clothes cops milling around with the population every day. I would certainly not want to see this happen here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 One must hope the perbs sentence is spent 6 feet under. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyesWideOpen Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Should Thailand actually wish to effect change, the model should be how Singapore reshaped itself and wiped out corruption in a few short years Hopefully, not! Hahaha well spoke !!! How about the fun of Thailand with a bit less corruption ?? :-) If a government employee, ie a military officer, helped this couple escape, that simply adds one more nauseating aspect of this mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 A doctor at Rama hospital in BKK has said Nong Air, the girl tortured by the Thai couple, will require 2 years of continuous treatment with many operations. Her treatment should begin next week. The husband and wife couple responsible for her injuries are thought to be hiding out in Cambodia. Dr Totsaphorn Serirak, official spokesman for the office of the Prime Minister met with officials at Rama hospital this morning. He said he'd been in talks with Miss Anutama Amornwiwat, secretary for the Ministry of Social Development and Human Security and it's been decided that the government and Rama Hospital will take care and responsibility for the cost of all treatment for the girl. The most urgent treatment is to remove fascia and scar tissue in her left armpit which prevents her from extending her arm. The girl's mental health seems to have improved somewhat with her smiling more and taking part in a few play activities. Rama plastic surgeon Dr Arti Khreuawit said the most serious injury is on her left side in the region of her shoulder, armpit, elbow and chest, preventing her from extending her arm. This was the most pressing surgery. There were also bad injuries on her neck, back and thighs and he was of the opinion that she could still contact an infection through her injuries and die. Skin grafts will be required [although it's hard to see from where since there was so much skin damage.] Several operations will be necessary requiring at least 3-4 hours each with long periods of closely monitored convalescence. In all, 6 months to 2 years may be required. She will require surgeons and psychologists and the hospital will do all they can for her. In a short statement, Nong air said she was happy and confident the doctors could treat her. She also expressed a wish to go to school since it doesn't appear she can read and write. Arrangements are being made by Mr Tanawat Sathit, the manager at the children's home where she's staying, for some sort of tutoring to take place. Apparently 400,000 Baht's been donated so far from amongst others, Thailands Ministry of Social Development and Human Security, the Burmese government and members of the public. Police also added cryptically at the end of the article that they'd sent undercover officers in search of the missing Thai couple and they anticipate they can't remain out of Thailand for long and will have to return soon. They expect good news on this front in 2-3 days Lets hope all these promises are honoured and bear fruition. http://www.thairath....t/region/327850 (20/02/13; 14:47pm) At last there seems to be some action, but it's a wait and see right now. Let's hope the promises are all kept and help this little girl to regain something close to normal life, and some education.Another worrying / dsigraceful aspect of this case is the report that a senior Thai military officer has helped the accused couple to escape, possibly into Cambodia. In any country surely one would expect that senior military, and police, officers are examples of high ethics and high morals, and espouse respect for the law and espouse proper and equal application of the law, etc., no matter where the gavel falls. This case has no grey areas (e.g. claims of finding them and court process being politicallly motivated), it's a serious case of kidnap of a child and torture of a child causing serious grieviouus bodily and emotional harm, in fact crimes against humanity. But the senior military man has ignored all of this and thrown morals and respect for proper application of the law to the wind, and no doubt for some extra spending money in his pocket. So how come senior military, and police, regularly and quickly take this route. The answer is simple: - Corruption - Buying promotions - Nepotism All of which means that people with little intelligence, little knowledge, zero capability, no morals or values, no respect for human rights can easily get to positions of power and high power and readily use the power for personal gain rather than for actions obviously assocaited with protecting the sovereignty of Thailand, and protection the people of Thailand, and have no hesitation to take actions as seen in this case. Until all of these factors are reduced massively none of this will change. The current and previous governments have given small lip service to this subject but in reality done nothing to gain change. The ball is firmly in the court of the younger generations to eventually stand up and say enough. And I believe the time will come when they do stand up, but unfortunately it's not tomorrow. There is always a catalyst which brings change and sometimes the catalyst is a factor not immediately associated. I suggest the day will come when Thais in large numbers will start to realize that the general population (the majority of the population) in many surrounding countries have a pretty good quality of life through their own productivity, brought about by good policies. Rather than 80% of the wealth of the country in the hands of a few, and with a large percentage of Thais close to or under the survival line. This, I believe, is when Thais in large numbers will start seriously demanding change and with coherent logic, and eventually win change and bring a much better spread of opportunity and wealth for all, gain respect for and equal application of the law, and make gains in terms of a fair and civil society. But it's not it's not tomorrow. Thank you for your posts. problem is, these corrupt buggars, have all the guns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sing_Sling Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Should Thailand actually wish to effect change, the model should be how Singapore reshaped itself and wiped out corruption in a few short years Hopefully, not! Definitely yes . . . but not to the extent that Singapore did. I lived/worked there for 5+ years . . . so easy and straightforward = wonderful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidstipek Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 (edited) What has happened here... Have they found the Couple who did this Terrible Thing? What has happened? Has this just been swept under the Rug and forgotten? I will on her behalf keep checking here to see if Justice has been served. I have three Daughters, they are all grown now so this "Tukatah" has been mentally Adopted. I will keep Hounding everyone who has links to this Post to keep searching. Why has no-one tried to contact her Parents, to inform them of her "Status"? Is there more to this story that has not been placed "On-Board"??? Little Lady, for you... I hope it get translated for her. There are Decent People out here who care... People who worry about Your... Future. Whichever God you Believe in... Believe me, he does care. He does love you! I believe you are still here with us to bring this ordeal to Light. To get some sort of punishment served. I just hope those who are in a position to waiver this... don't do any more "Damage" then they already have. Lets request an update on this! This is not a overstatement of the News... This is Journalism being written, no matter how it ws first Posted, if mistakes were made. If there was disrespect shown to her privatecy. I had no connection, but I will Appologise for the ones who did. "If I had Opened this story, I truely would have been Flattened..." I would have made mistakes in how I tried to Broadcast this to the (Hopefully...) World on what I had found! "Trying to find her some sort of Justice in the only way I would have known .... Jounalisticly...." Not thinking of the repercussions that would have seemed insensitive to this Brave Little Girl!!! But this was not my doing, but for those really Involved I hope everyone out there accepts this Appology in their behalf... God Bless Us..... Everyone..... Edited August 11, 2013 by metisdead Font reset to default forum font. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyesWideOpen Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Hiding out in Cambodia would get a bit dreary after a while, and not something that can be easily sustainable over a long period of time. I suspect this couple is in their house in Thailand right now as I write this. With no follow up by either the media or the police, all issues like this one become simply a matter of waiting things out. Unfortunately.... Their home address has been published. If you lived in the area, probably just a matter stopping by their house, doing a citizen arrest, and pick up a quick 100,000 baht !! :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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