Dutch Ambassador Guides Reform To Bring An End To Scams In Phuket

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Dutch ambassador guides reform

Phuket Gazette

PHUKET: -- Speaking at the Phuket Gazette offices recently, Ambassador Boer explained about his efforts to galvanize the international diplomatic community to jointly deliberate with authorities in Bangkok to bring an end to the various scams that have done so much damage to the tourism industry in Phuket and other destinations in Thailand.

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Amb Boer, now in the second year of a four-year posting in Thailand, told the Gazette that it was not long after his arrival in Thailand that he began receiving complaints from Dutch tourists in Phuket.

"I first came here one and a half years ago to discuss with then Gov Tri Augkaradacha the future of tourism, the social climate for [expat] residents, et cetera. That was after a couple of incidents of scamming… people who rented jet-skis and then got back and were [unjustly] charged for damages, or people who rented a motorbike and left it at their hotel and then found it gone. But even more seriously, we also had a couple of incidents where people were beaten with iron bars [following disputes over] just 200 or 300 baht. That’s when it really gets nasty," he said.

He asked Gov Tri in September 2010 what he was doing on these issues and asked him what he could do as an ambassador to support his efforts.

"The Governor said, ‘You know I am here as Governor under circumstances that are too strong for me. I need support from central authorities in Bangkok. Can you help me?’"

"When you get a question like that, then it is on your shoulders. I can’t tell my taxpayers that… ‘it is his problem, not my problem’."

Amb Boer took it upon himself to try to initiate such change.

"At that point I began coordinating with ambassadors from ten different countries that were experiencing similar problems. We made an overview of the issues and agreed that we wanted this both to be a multilateral effort and not just pointing the finger at the Thai authorities."

Since that time, Amb Boer and his fellow diplomats have held three high-level meetings with Ministry of Tourism and Sports officials and other authorities in Bangkok.

The Ministry recently issued a number of conclusions based on various concerns the diplomats had presented them with.

One of the important conclusions is that jet-ski and motorbike rental operators would henceforth face prosecution if caught in possession of a foreigner’s passport.

Operators have long demanded that tourists hand over passports as surety when renting out vehicles. In the future, the operators would have to accept a copy of the renter’s passport, because the document is the property of the issuing country, he explained.

Asked about the likelihood of enforcement, Amb Boer said the group of countries would carefully monitor events on the ground in tourist destinations like Pattaya, Hua Hin – and especially Phuket.

While the scamming phenomena in Pattaya rivals that of Phuket, "intransparencies" in the transport sector in Phuket make public transport here the most expensive in Thailand – and a common cause of conflict between drivers and visiting tourists, he said.

"Labor costs are the same here as in Bangkok, as are petrol and vehicle purchase costs, so I don’t know why taxi costs have to be three times as much here. We have to look at the system behind it, why one has to bargain so hard for each meter – and why if you don’t reach an agreement, people can get very aggressive. I can’t accept people from my country getting beaten up over 200 baht, and if I were to accept it my government should withdraw me from the post," he said.

Amb Boer said high-profile cases like rapes and murders tended to be resolved in a few days. However, the sheer volume of less-publicized cases of scamming and price-gouging in the transport sector, and the authority’s inability to deal with them satisfactorily, indicated these problems were systemic.

Only about two per cent of Dutch tourists return from Thailand dissatisfied with their experiences here, but he stressed that in the "brave new age" of social media just one of these people could do immense harm to a country’s tourism image.

In terms of the way information is propagated, he said the emergence of the social media was as revolutionary a change as the invention by Gutenberg of the printing press in the early stages of the Renaissance.

"One person with a PC or a blog can seriously affect a destination’s reputation. Like it or not, I now have a case on my hands with over 500,000 YouTube hits [The Evil Man From Krabi video]. That’s new to me; I have not been trained for it, but it’s the new world we have to face. I understand the [alleged victim’s] father. I also understand some of the concerns elsewhere. I do not want to mingle in the justice process, but I do want a justice system that is transparent and can be explained," he said.

Amb Boer stressed that the alleged rape that inspired the video was an isolated case and that he still encouraged Dutch people to holiday in the Kingdom.

Many Dutch tourists who get into trouble here do so because they are naive and fail to heed the many warnings about scamming and other potential problems that are clearly stated on the foreign ministry’s website, he conceded.

"I don’t know how it happens. As soon as they get off the plane… they seem to lose some of their normal reflexes. I have been out with the Tourist Police in Patong and seen a lot of behavior of the kind that invites scamming. So it’s a double-edged sword and we have a role in educating our own people," he said.

Among the irresponsible behavior displayed by about 30 per cent of Dutch tourists is failing to get travel insurance before traveling to the Kingdom, even though packages are available for the equivalent of about 80 baht per day. Advertisements for such even pop up on their computer screens when they are researching trips, he noted.

"Thirty per cent uninsured is irresponsible behavior. That’s what I tell my tourists: ‘You are irresponsible if you go without insurance for the cost of a beer’," he said.

The jet-ski insurance program was a "good start", but it has also revealed a good deal of "creativity" on the part of renters, who now demand compensation of two days for a jet-ski being out of service following an "accident". This compensation is not covered under the current insurance package, but should be in the future, he said.

"Regulators are always one train late. I understand that we are not ahead of the scammers, but we should be closely behind them, not off over the horizon," he said.

He described his work as the "start of a process", one that acknowledges a set of facts and figures that weren’t available a year ago.

"So we can now enter into a conversation where, on both sides of the line, we take our responsibilities and try to move forward. Again, I am not a player in this process in the sense that I am not at the wheel or in a position to change the tourism industry in Thailand. Together with colleagues I am trying to set things in motion.

"If people don’t feel secure there is no progress. In the tourism sector, the sense of security is extremely important, because if people do not feel safe they will not return to a destination," he said.

Source: http://www.phuketgaz...form-20295.html

-- Phuket Gazette 2013-02-21

[laurentbkk]

a good slap for Phuket .. so true but at least some people are happy with their holidays ... scams is just a drop in the ocean .

[BrianCR]

a good slap for Phuket .. so true but at least some people are happy with their holidays ... scams is just a drop in the ocean .

It's a big drop if you're involved in one!

[billd766]

Without wishing to put a downer on the ambassadors efforts NOTHING will improve the situation until they solve the corruption problems starting at the very top of government and police and working the way down.

Unless the governer is given an ultimatum by the national government that unless it is stopped HE goes directly to jail for 5 years and the top 3 or 4 layers of police will join him with a minimun of 5 years up to life for the top cops NOTHING will happen apart from more words.

Of course NOTHING will be done anyway at government level but there is nothing new there either.

[KarenBravo]

Unless there is a willingness to enforce whatever rules they come up with, they can talk until judgement day and nothing will change. As the police are in bed with the locals and you're going to have to rely on Corporal Somchai to actually enforce these rules........see what I mean?

Serve and protect, meaning the public is an alien concept. It means Serve and Protect themselves.

[stevenl]

This is a first in that the ambassadors have taken some of the issues to Bangkok in stead of talking about it on a local level. Since change has to come from Bangkok that is a good and important step in the right direction, but there is still a long, long way to go.

[Payboy]

"The Governor said, ‘You know I am here as Governor under circumstances that are too strong for me. I need support from central authorities in Bangkok. Can you help me?’"

"When you get a question like that, then it is on your shoulders. I can’t tell my taxpayers that… ‘it is his problem, not my problem’."

That's diplo-speak for "what an absolute idiot?".

[eezergood]

Perhaps its time we made Phuket a HUB of anti corruption!

[belg]

ahaha, an embassador that is here for max 4 years has no power whatsoever... the money of the scams is too big and the people involved ...well, if you cannot go complain to the authorities, because they are in on it ......

[Chupup]

As much as i would like to think that this is the ripple that starts the big waves in Puket and Thailand as a whole ....i fear that it will just desolve in the sand on the beach as have so many

before it

[Chupup]

pass the sugar please

[Payboy]

Ambassadors can achieve a lot if they are persistent. After the great jewelry theft, I remember one Saudi ambassador was a real pain in the arse for some of these highly decorated crooks in uniform.

[JulesMad]

pass the sugar please

one or two lumps, sir?

[billd766]

"The Governor said, ‘You know I am here as Governor under circumstances that are too strong for me. I need support from central authorities in Bangkok. Can you help me?’"

"When you get a question like that, then it is on your shoulders. I can’t tell my taxpayers that… ‘it is his problem, not my problem’."

That's diplo-speak for "what an absolute idiot?".

I suspect that if I was the Ambassador I would smile diplomatically and suggest that if the Governer REALLY can't sort it then his resignation would be a good way of telling the Thai government of his problems.

Of course he won't do that as there is to much money involved.

[MichelBangkok]

Without wishing to put a downer on the ambassadors efforts NOTHING will improve the situation until they solve the corruption problems starting at the very top of government and police and working the way down.

Unless the governer is given an ultimatum by the national government that unless it is stopped HE goes directly to jail for 5 years and the top 3 or 4 layers of police will join him with a minimun of 5 years up to life for the top cops NOTHING will happen apart from more words.

Of course NOTHING will be done anyway at government level but there is nothing new there either.

So True ! Blogs like this forum can do more 'good' by alerting potential visitors, than most, if not all, the authorities involved directly or not can do to get rid of these scams...for reasons not necessary to be repeated !

[lavender19]

This is a first in that the ambassadors have taken some of the issues to Bangkok in stead of talking about it on a local level. Since change has to come from Bangkok that is a good and important step in the right direction, but there is still a long, long way to go.

Yes a good step but that was back 2010 and it is now 2013 and what has been done.Absolutely nothing

Edited February 24, 2013 by lavender19

[stevenl]

This is a first in that the ambassadors have taken some of the issues to Bangkok in stead of talking about it on a local level. Since change has to come from Bangkok that is a good and important step in the right direction, but there is still a long, long way to go.

Yes a good step but that was back 2010 and it is now 2013 and what has been done.Absolutely nothing

True, I would have loved it if more things had been done, but these things always go very, very slowly. Phuket authorities have to be overruled here by Bangkok authorities, and much more pressure is needed to accomplish that. But some steps have been taken, with still a long way to go.