Hitler Fashion Statements Confuse, Offend Tourists In Thailand

[philw]

Beat me to it

Great minds...

Both of you are dead right.

But somehow it is amusing to see the massive and stupid overreactions on display here.

It's like a "shock, gasp, horror " reaction to Benny Hill..............

I asked Samran a few posts back who was the most evil man born and didn't get a response. I think you young people don't really know what evil is because you were protected by a generation who gave their lives so you would not have to know evil to the same extent as Hitler perpetrated of the world. And I guess it worked because you don't have a clue about real evil and the horrors of WWII and the Nazi's that are being glorified by having kids march down the street in Nazi uniforms.

Sorry CMK, but what you write is just insulting nonsense.

You are not the only one with some life experience.

[samran]

Beat me to it

Great minds...

Both of you are dead right.

But somehow it is amusing to see the massive and stupid overreactions on display here.

It's like a "shock, gasp, horror " reaction to Benny Hill..............

I asked Samran a few posts back who was the most evil man born and didn't get a response. I think you young people don't really know what evil is because you were protected by a generation who gave their lives so you would not have to know evil to the same extent as Hitler perpetrated of the world. And I guess it worked because you don't have a clue about real evil and the horrors of WWII and the Nazi's that are being glorified by having kids march down the street in Nazi uniforms.

Ah, the 'I am older than you therefore I know better' routine. Very few people around these days left to have a first hand memory of the second world war, so unless you are really that old, you in reality are no better off than me.

Ishouldn't feel the need to add it in, but I grew up in a predominetly Jewish suburb where there were plenty of holocaust survivors and being our neighbours, knew them and their backgrounds reasonably well, and our family employed cambodian refugees who escaped Pol Pot in their first jobs off the boat. Add to that, I do kind of like a bit of military history (Australian and WWII in particular). So to try and paint everyone as an ingnoramus isn't going to work.

Yes the costumes are offensive, I've never denied that. But in the main, this is just ignorant silliness and the intent wasn't one of offense, or even to threaten anyone, so on that count, I'm pretty non-plussed about it. But then again, I'm not someone who gets offended when I look at myself naked in the mirror after a shower, so I guess that is where I am different to some.

To turn it into this thread as long as this however, and see how bigoted and condecending we can be to Thai's is another story. And there has been plenty of that here which has gone uncommented on.

As for the most evil human. Who knows? I didn't want to be tagged for being off topic by the wanna be mod squad (funny how you feel you can go off topic when it suits you)....probably a combination of the entire Nazi leadership, Idi Amin, Pol Pot, Mao for his great leaps forward. Stalin prbably has to be up there too. That is if we are talking about national rulers. Plenty of sick individuals who will never commit such wide spread atrocities too but who will remain unheard of, so in all, your question is a pretty dumb one. But there, I bit, and was off topic too boot, so I guess you've had a good morning on that front.....

[chooka]

Beat me to it

Great minds...

Both of you are dead right.

But somehow it is amusing to see the massive and stupid overreactions on display here.

It's like a "shock, gasp, horror " reaction to Benny Hill..............

I asked Samran a few posts back who was the most evil man born and didn't get a response. I think you young people don't really know what evil is because you were protected by a generation who gave their lives so you would not have to know evil to the same extent as Hitler perpetrated of the world. And I guess it worked because you don't have a clue about real evil and the horrors of WWII and the Nazi's that are being glorified by having kids march down the street in Nazi uniforms.

My ex aussie wife was the most evil female to be born

[chiangmaikelly]

Great minds...

Both of you are dead right.

But somehow it is amusing to see the massive and stupid overreactions on display here.

It's like a "shock, gasp, horror " reaction to Benny Hill..............

I asked Samran a few posts back who was the most evil man born and didn't get a response. I think you young people don't really know what evil is because you were protected by a generation who gave their lives so you would not have to know evil to the same extent as Hitler perpetrated of the world. And I guess it worked because you don't have a clue about real evil and the horrors of WWII and the Nazi's that are being glorified by having kids march down the street in Nazi uniforms.

My ex aussie wife was the most evil female to be born

Did she make lampshades out of human skin?

[HughJass]

would there be a similar outcry in the west if one of the locals wore a Pol Pot T shirt?

personally I think the wrong side won WW2

[Pimay1]

would there be a similar outcry in the west if one of the locals wore a Pol Pot T shirt?

personally I think the wrong side won WW2

In your opinion who should have won WW2?

[chiangmaikelly]

In terms of loss of life and appreciation of assets I believe the Thais won WWII.

[driedmango]

Beat me to it

Great minds...

Both of you are dead right.

But somehow it is amusing to see the massive and stupid overreactions on display here.

It's like a "shock, gasp, horror " reaction to Benny Hill..............

I asked Samran a few posts back who was the most evil man born and didn't get a response. I think you young people don't really know what evil is because you were protected by a generation who gave their lives so you would not have to know evil to the same extent as Hitler perpetrated of the world. And I guess it worked because you don't have a clue about real evil and the horrors of WWII and the Nazi's that are being glorified by having kids march down the street in Nazi uniforms.

Its not glorification. Its black humour. Its like why people dress up like the devil for parties.

[chiangmaikelly]

Beat me to it

Great minds...

Both of you are dead right.

But somehow it is amusing to see the massive and stupid overreactions on display here.

It's like a "shock, gasp, horror " reaction to Benny Hill..............

I asked Samran a few posts back who was the most evil man born and didn't get a response. I think you young people don't really know what evil is because you were protected by a generation who gave their lives so you would not have to know evil to the same extent as Hitler perpetrated of the world. And I guess it worked because you don't have a clue about real evil and the horrors of WWII and the Nazi's that are being glorified by having kids march down the street in Nazi uniforms.

Its not glorification. Its black humour. Its like why people dress up like the devil for parties.

That would be the case if the Thais knew who Hitler was but they don't. It's not humor it is stupidity.

[driedmango]

I am sure Thais aren't as stupid as you suggest. .. that sounds like some Nazi doctrine.

[Jingthing]

I am sure Thais aren't as stupid as you suggest. .. that sounds like some Nazi doctrine.

Ignorance would be a better word. Thais are certainly genetically CAPABLE of learning about Hitler.

[chiangmaikelly]

I am sure Thais aren't as stupid as you suggest. .. that sounds like some Nazi doctrine.

Ignorance would be a better word. Thais are certainly genetically CAPABLE of learning about Hitler.

It's a toss up. When I was teaching I would preface my WWII lecture with , "these are the guys who were on your side during WWII and this is what you all did." Then I'd show the slide show of the concentration camps and the death railway.

[samran]

I am sure Thais aren't as stupid as you suggest. .. that sounds like some Nazi doctrine.

Ignorance would be a better word. Thais are certainly genetically CAPABLE of learning about Hitler.

It's a toss up. When I was teaching I would preface my WWII lecture with , "these are the guys who were on your side during WWII and this is what you all did." Then I'd show the slide show of the concentration camps and the death railway.

What is a toss up? That Thai's are genetically incapable?

[Jingthing]

I think he's saying it's really hard to teach this subject in Thailand which is a very nationalistic country where teaching anything that may reflect poorly on Thailand, even in the past, is rather a taboo.

[chiangmaikelly]

I am sure Thais aren't as stupid as you suggest. .. that sounds like some Nazi doctrine.

Ignorance would be a better word. Thais are certainly genetically CAPABLE of learning about Hitler.

It's a toss up. When I was teaching I would preface my WWII lecture with , "these are the guys who were on your side during WWII and this is what you all did." Then I'd show the slide show of the concentration camps and the death railway.

What is a toss up? That Thai's are genetically incapable?

Who said anything about genetics? I'm still waiting for you to tell me who is the most evil man ever born?

[chiangmaikelly]

I think he's saying it's really hard to teach this subject in Thailand which is a very nationalistic country where teaching anything that may reflect poorly on Thailand, even in the past, is rather a taboo.

There was a time in Thailand when school was conducted on American military bases.

[samran]

Ignorance would be a better word. Thais are certainly genetically CAPABLE of learning about Hitler.

It's a toss up. When I was teaching I would preface my WWII lecture with , "these are the guys who were on your side during WWII and this is what you all did." Then I'd show the slide show of the concentration camps and the death railway.

What is a toss up? That Thai's are genetically incapable?

Who said anything about genetics? I'm still waiting for you to tell me who is the most evil man ever born?

Are you blind? See a few posts back.

But yes masser. I must answer to you when you order me. I forgot. You big chief man.

Edited March 13, 2013 by samran

[EyesWideOpen]

Easy !!!! The most evil man born was Mao Tse-tung ..... he caused the deaths of about 60 million people in China. That puts him head and shoulders above Hitler and Stalin..

This Hitler thing in Thailand is a function of the crap education system here. The push by the hisos is to generally keep the peasants in a low state of education which suits their goals. An unfortunate by product of this strategy is when stories like this come out, showing a complete lack of understanding of history by Thai students. This is the fault of the education system, not of the students...

Edited March 13, 2013 by EyesWideOpen

[Barabbas]

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Actually it is called paranoia, overflowing on this thread. Nothing new.

"Nobody likes me, every body hates me, I think I'll go and eat worms....."

Samran, how do you know this old Ukrainian song?

[AngelsLariat]

Whistle while you work Hitler is a

I remember my mom telling me about that song....

"Whistle while you work Hitler is a jerk. Mussolini is a meanie and the Japs are even worse."

But, a bigger problem now is that Hitler's disciples have arrived in Thailand and we must stop it.

[rgs2001uk]

I am sure Thais aren't as stupid as you suggest. .. that sounds like some Nazi doctrine.

Its just the farang cultural imperialists, the white man knows whats best for Thailand, why do those pesky natives never listen to us.

From some of the anti Thai tirades I have read on here, substitute the word Thai for, Jew, Black or Gay, there would be merry hell, knickers being twisted, posts reported to mods, verbal mudslinging.

Never mind its only the Thais, we all know its not their fault, low IQ.

[Jingthing]

...

From some of the anti Thai tirades I have read on here, substitute the word Thai for, Jew, Black or Gay, there would be merry hell, knickers being twisted, posts reported to mods, verbal mudslinging.

...

You sound like you have tested out that theorem ...

[chiangmaikelly]

It's a toss up. When I was teaching I would preface my WWII lecture with , "these are the guys who were on your side during WWII and this is what you all did." Then I'd show the slide show of the concentration camps and the death railway.

What is a toss up? That Thai's are genetically incapable?

Who said anything about genetics? I'm still waiting for you to tell me who is the most evil man ever born?

Are you blind? See a few posts back.

But yes masser. I must answer to you when you order me. I forgot. You big chief man.

I missed it. I just went back and read it. Sorry you feel bad about old people. Young men and also young women have their uses, wisdom is rarely one of them. Instead of answering my question you missed the point and offered a variety of names of men who were evil. But see, that was not the question as this thread is about one person, Hitler. Since you are young you may not have noticed the evil that was Hitler beyond a body count. It was lampshades, killing camps with gas chambers and whole religious groups wiped out. It was a unique kind of evil one that many would choose to forget or make light of. It stays with us today in not carefully watched and controlled.

[rgs2001uk]

...

From some of the anti Thai tirades I have read on here, substitute the word Thai for, Jew, Black or Gay, there would be merry hell, knickers being twisted, posts reported to mods, verbal mudslinging.

...

You sound like you have tested out that theorem ...

See it on here every day, make an anti Thai remark and all you do is draw out the other detritus farang whose lives are so miserable here, but the post stands.

Make a post about Jews or Israel and it quickly brings cries of anti whatever, then the post soon disappears.

Strange old world.

[EyesWideOpen]

Well since Germany and Thailand were allies, perhaps it makes sense to

celebrate and display the flag of your former ally ?? :-)

[transam]

Well since Germany and Thailand were allies, perhaps it makes sense to

celebrate and display the flag of your former ally ?? :-)

Perhaps allies for one reason, FEAR.

[chiangmaikelly]

Well since Germany and Thailand were allies, perhaps it makes sense to

celebrate and display the flag of your former ally ?? :-)

Perhaps allies for one reason, FEAR.

Seems to me a profit motive for territorial considerations after the Franco/Thai war (1940). Thai resistance may have delayed or halted the capture of Singapore and left the war a much different outcome in the early stages.

Edited March 13, 2013 by chiangmaikelly

[samran]

I missed it. I just went back and read it. Sorry you feel bad about old people. Young men and also young women have their uses, wisdom is rarely one of them. Instead of answering my question you missed the point and offered a variety of names of men who were evil. But see, that was not the question as this thread is about one person, Hitler. Since you are young you may not have noticed the evil that was Hitler beyond a body count. It was lampshades, killing camps with gas chambers and whole religious groups wiped out. It was a unique kind of evil one that many would choose to forget or make light of. It stays with us today in not carefully watched and controlled.

Got nothing against old people. Just stupid people.

I never said I had anything against old people in the post you refer to. Read it again. What I said was that unless you were there, then your take on it is just as relevant as mine. But, not suprisingly, you seem to think you have a more of a moral compass that the rest of us. So be it. It says plenty about you.

But talking about ducking questions, you still haven't made clear whether you think that Thai's are genetically incapable about learning about these things.

[transam]

I missed it. I just went back and read it. Sorry you feel bad about old people. Young men and also young women have their uses, wisdom is rarely one of them. Instead of answering my question you missed the point and offered a variety of names of men who were evil. But see, that was not the question as this thread is about one person, Hitler. Since you are young you may not have noticed the evil that was Hitler beyond a body count. It was lampshades, killing camps with gas chambers and whole religious groups wiped out. It was a unique kind of evil one that many would choose to forget or make light of. It stays with us today in not carefully watched and controlled.

Got nothing against old people. Just stupid people.

I never said I had anything against old people in the post you refer to. Read it again. What I said was that unless you were there, then your take on it is just as relevant as mine. But, not suprisingly, you seem to think you have a more of a moral compass that the rest of us. So be it. It says plenty about you.

But talking about ducking questions, you still haven't made clear whether you think that Thai's are genetically incapable about learning about these things.

Don't think anyone can answer your question.

[samran]

I missed it. I just went back and read it. Sorry you feel bad about old people. Young men and also young women have their uses, wisdom is rarely one of them. Instead of answering my question you missed the point and offered a variety of names of men who were evil. But see, that was not the question as this thread is about one person, Hitler. Since you are young you may not have noticed the evil that was Hitler beyond a body count. It was lampshades, killing camps with gas chambers and whole religious groups wiped out. It was a unique kind of evil one that many would choose to forget or make light of. It stays with us today in not carefully watched and controlled.

Got nothing against old people. Just stupid people.

I never said I had anything against old people in the post you refer to. Read it again. What I said was that unless you were there, then your take on it is just as relevant as mine. But, not suprisingly, you seem to think you have a more of a moral compass that the rest of us. So be it. It says plenty about you.

But talking about ducking questions, you still haven't made clear whether you think that Thai's are genetically incapable about learning about these things.

Don't think anyone can answer your question.

Should be a pretty easy one to answer, otherwise you aren't any better than than those Nazi's who believed in genetic superiority as part of their justifcation for their atrocities.

But somehow I don't think CMK is going to come back to me on that one.

Edited March 13, 2013 by samran