New Pickup

[transam]

Toyota isn't a Thai brand, it's Japanese.

There was me thinking my Weego was built by Somchai Motors Corp.

, you bought one of those eh .................................

[chiang mai]

Have just been out and around looking at my options and have realised for the first time that the Toyota pickup is priced the same as the Isuzu, I believe I will go back to my long list and once again consider Toyota.

[transam]

Have just been out and around looking at my options and have realised for the first time that the Toyota pickup is priced the same as the Isuzu, I believe I will go back to my long list and once again consider Toyota.

..................... nooooooooooooooooo contest.

[Tywais]

Flame and inflammatory posts removed.

[chiang mai]

Have just been out and around looking at my options and have realised for the first time that the Toyota pickup is priced the same as the Isuzu, I believe I will go back to my long list and once again consider Toyota.

..................... nooooooooooooooooo contest.

You may be right, the last time I looked at Toyota was a few years ago and I seem to recall their product being over 1mill hence I hadn't even considered them this time around, it's difficult to favour Isuzu over Toyota when there's no price discount involved.

[Spoonman]

Have a sit in the Vigo, We have all the new/current model pickups at work and everytime I climb into the Vigo it feels pretty ordinary, just something bout the seat that does not sit right with me, seems to go OK though.

[transam]

Have a sit in the Vigo, We have all the new/current model pickups at work and everytime I climb into the Vigo it feels pretty ordinary, just something bout the seat that does not sit right with me, seems to go OK though.

Now look here Quasimodo,

[Spoonman]

Trannyman, it was most uncomfortable, It is a true pick-up. all the others feel like sedans (except the Colorado and D-Max).

[chiang mai]

As far as I can tell from previous threads, the Vigo 3.0 4x4 seems to average about 11 kilo's per litre of fuel on the highway and around 9 in town, kinda interesting numbers since my CRV 2.5 petrol engine used to average about 9! (the nice sales lady at Toyota yesterday tried to tell me it was really 15 but I can forgive her for lying since she was extremley cute). My questions are: does the mpg improve very much at all in the case of the 2.5 litre engine, and, does anyone know what the real world fuel consumption numbers are for Isuzu and the BT50?

[stevenl]

Isuzu is known to be the most fuel efficient of the lot. My BT50 does about 1 to 13 on longer runs, 1 to 10 in town/mountain roads.

[chiang mai]

Isuzu is known to be the most fuel efficient of the lot. My BT50 does about 1 to 13 on longer runs, 1 to 10 in town/mountain roads.

Thanks Steven, the picture's slowly taking shape.

[Big Guns]

Have just been out and around looking at my options and have realised for the first time that the Toyota pickup is priced the same as the Isuzu, I believe I will go back to my long list and once again consider Toyota.

..................... nooooooooooooooooo contest.

Yep if you want a modern 10, year old pickup at 2013 prices

[chiang mai]

Have just been out and around looking at my options and have realised for the first time that the Toyota pickup is priced the same as the Isuzu, I believe I will go back to my long list and once again consider Toyota.

..................... nooooooooooooooooo contest.

Yep if you want a modern 10, year old pickup at 2013 prices

I don't understand, I'm aware that the Isuzu drive train is about nine years old but are you saying that the Toyota is also old technology and if so, compared to what?

[Jitar]

All of the Japanese pickup use similar versions of Denso Fuel systems and Aisin auto trans so the differences in drive-trains are more or less tuning.

A 3.0L Vigo 4x4 might do a bit better than 11km/L. Our 3.0L 4x4 Auto Fortuner can manage that on the highway and it is heavier. 15L/km would certainly require some dedicated economy driving.

The Australian fuel economy numbers give a relatively unbiased idea of fuel efficiency: http://www.greenvehicleguide.gov.au/GVGPublicUI/Home.aspx

The figures are not real world but the relative differences between models should be representative. The extract shows Isuzu appear to deserve their reputation. The Hilux in these results is still the 4 speed Auto. The newer 5AT might do a little better.

[chiang mai]

All of the Japanese pickup use similar versions of Denso Fuel systems and Aisin auto trans so the differences in drive-trains are more or less tuning.

A 3.0L Vigo 4x4 might do a bit better than 11km/L. Our 3.0L 4x4 Auto Fortuner can manage that on the highway and it is heavier. 15L/km would certainly require some dedicated economy driving.

The Australian fuel economy numbers give a relatively unbiased idea of fuel efficiency: http://www.greenvehicleguide.gov.au/GVGPublicUI/Home.aspx

The figures are not real world but the relative differences between models should be representative. The extract shows Isuzu appear to deserve their reputation. The Hilux in these results is still the 4 speed Auto. The newer 5AT might do a little better.

Thanks Jitar, that's really useful.

[transam]

Have just been out and around looking at my options and have realised for the first time that the Toyota pickup is priced the same as the Isuzu, I believe I will go back to my long list and once again consider Toyota.

..................... nooooooooooooooooo contest.

Yep if you want a modern 10, year old pickup at 2013 prices

[chiang mai]

I've just seen the limited edition Toyota Sportivo (Vigo 4x2), comes with a 2.5 engine which gives it 13 and 15 kilo's per litre respectively, at 902k it's a very nice piece of work and the colour/trim/styling combination is very sharp indeed. Since I'm never likely to get into the haulage business I reckon I can do with out the 3.0 engine and the 4x4 option in favour of better mileage. Only downsides are: no airbags and it comes only in white or black, the latter's no biggee but the former does worry me. Perhaps even more worrying is that the dealer has it in stock hence I'm in danger of making a rash decision, might have to lock the doors and throw the key off the eigth floor balcony until the wife gets home.

[Jitar]

If you want good fuel economy, go for a 4x2. Manual would also be better than auto, (except maybe for the D-max).

The fuel economy of the 2.5L and 3.0L Hilux probably will not be too much different if driven the same. In fact I recall some D-max guys saying some 3.0L come ahead of 2.5L in fuel economy drives.

The 3.0L D4D is heaps nicer to drive than the 2.5L so personally I would rather the 3.0L without the TRD stick-ons, but that's just my 2 cents worth.

[jaiyenyen]

As far as I can tell from previous threads, the Vigo 3.0 4x4 seems to average about 11 kilo's per litre of fuel on the highway and around 9 in town, kinda interesting numbers since my CRV 2.5 petrol engine used to average about 9! (the nice sales lady at Toyota yesterday tried to tell me it was really 15 but I can forgive her for lying since she was extremley cute). My questions are: does the mpg improve very much at all in the case of the 2.5 litre engine, and, does anyone know what the real world fuel consumption numbers are for Isuzu and the BT50?

I've had my BT50 2WD Man for around 6 weeks. I drive around 60kms a day, a mix of town and country. I'm getting 14-15 kms per ltr.

[Khunangkaro]

Isuzu > D-Max Hi-lander 4-door > 2.5 VGS Z DVD (Pearl White)

Bought July 2013.

Very economic fuel consumption.

Digital gauge roams around 19 km/l average for one tank of diesel driving speed mostly around 80 km/hr, sometimes around 100

[thailoht]

If you want good fuel economy, go for a 4x2. Manual would also be better than auto, (except maybe for the D-max).

The fuel economy of the 2.5L and 3.0L Hilux probably will not be too much different if driven the same. In fact I recall some D-max guys saying some 3.0L come ahead of 2.5L in fuel economy drives.

The 3.0L D4D is heaps nicer to drive than the 2.5L so personally I would rather the 3.0L without the TRD stick-ons, but that's just my 2 cents worth.

I've just seen the limited edition Toyota Sportivo (Vigo 4x2), comes with a 2.5 engine which gives it 13 and 15 kilo's per litre respectively, at 902k it's a very nice piece of work and the colour/trim/styling combination is very sharp indeed. Since I'm never likely to get into the haulage business I reckon I can do with out the 3.0 engine and the 4x4 option in favour of better mileage. Only downsides are: no airbags and it comes only in white or black, the latter's no biggie but the former does worry me. Perhaps even more worrying is that the dealer has it in stock hence I'm in danger of making a rash decision, might have to lock the doors and throw the key off the eighth floor balcony until the wife gets home. alt=biggrin.png width=20 height=20>

Hey Chiang Mai, which model did you end up choosing?

I am with Jitar about selecting a pickup that has a 3.0L engine over a 2.5L engine - and you definitely want to buy a vehicle that has airbags .... this is the 21st century and you will be driving here in LOS!

[sjonburi]

During the recent minor change for the Hilux (upgrade to Euro V) they also added standard driver and passenger airbags all across the Hilux range + ABS on most of the models. The 3.0L (Euro V) is now rated at 171 HP and 360 NM of torque 1400-3200 RPM..

http://www.toyota.co.th/en/product-detail.php?model=vigo_double_cab&opt=spec

I've just seen the limited edition Toyota Sportivo (Vigo 4x2), comes with a 2.5 engine which gives it 13 and 15 kilo's per litre respectively, at 902k it's a very nice piece of work and the colour/trim/styling combination is very sharp indeed. Since I'm never likely to get into the haulage business I reckon I can do with out the 3.0 engine and the 4x4 option in favour of better mileage. Only downsides are: no airbags and it comes only in white or black, the latter's no biggee but the former does worry me. Perhaps even more worrying is that the dealer has it in stock hence I'm in danger of making a rash decision, might have to lock the doors and throw the key off the eigth floor balcony until the wife gets home. alt=biggrin.png width=20 height=20>

If you want good fuel economy, go for a 4x2. Manual would also be better than auto, (except maybe for the D-max).

The fuel economy of the 2.5L and 3.0L Hilux probably will not be too much different if driven the same. In fact I recall some D-max guys saying some 3.0L come ahead of 2.5L in fuel economy drives.

The 3.0L D4D is heaps nicer to drive than the 2.5L so personally I would rather the 3.0L without the TRD stick-ons, but that's just my 2 cents worth.

I've just seen the limited edition Toyota Sportivo (Vigo 4x2), comes with a 2.5 engine which gives it 13 and 15 kilo's per litre respectively, at 902k it's a very nice piece of work and the colour/trim/styling combination is very sharp indeed. Since I'm never likely to get into the haulage business I reckon I can do with out the 3.0 engine and the 4x4 option in favour of better mileage. Only downsides are: no airbags and it comes only in white or black, the latter's no biggie but the former does worry me. Perhaps even more worrying is that the dealer has it in stock hence I'm in danger of making a rash decision, might have to lock the doors and throw the key off the eighth floor balcony until the wife gets home. alt=biggrin.png width=20 height=20>

Hey Chiang Mai, which model did you end up choosing?

I am with Jitar about selecting a pickup that has a 3.0L engine over a 2.5L engine - and you definitely want to buy a vehicle that has airbags .... this is the 21st century and you will be driving here in LOS!