PaullyW Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Not sure if someone already mentioned it, but LOS women are pretty cheap still. Come to think of it, I think it would be more appropriate to discuss value rather than price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunFon Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Not sure if someone already mentioned it, but LOS women are pretty cheap still.- Lots of guys would disagree, but of course they're not doing it right. Some claim to have real relationships that end up costing very little or even where she pays her own way! And a very select few (most likely young and hansum if not also hi-class and/or wealthy) actually marry into very big money. So horses for courses. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaullyW Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Not sure if someone already mentioned it, but LOS women are pretty cheap still.-Lots of guys would disagree, but of course they're not doing it right. Some claim to have real relationships that end up costing very little or even where she pays her own way! And a very select few (most likely young and hansum if not also hi-class and/or wealthy) actually marry into very big money. So horses for courses. . . Yep, true. Many would indeed disagree, I fear. Perhaps I should have commented that women in LOS are still a good value at the hourly rate. The lifetime fee is probably not as great a value. Diminishing returns and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Some might argue Cambo women are not only cheaper but often more attractive as well, especially when you get one of those with some French blood and the nice pink nipp.... you know. others might argue that those who use expressions such as "Cambo women" are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaullyW Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Some might argue Cambo women are not only cheaper but often more attractive as well, especially when you get one of those with some French blood and the nice pink nipp.... you know. others might argue that those who use expressions such as "Cambo women" are Is it derogatory? If so, I didn't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonF Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Still cheap where I live (hankha near chai nat, 90 mins north west of Bangkok), an adequate dinner for 2 for under 100b, obviously no booze included, but if you want a leo its 55b.After 2 months visiting friends on Phuket it's great to be back in Thailand again, so sure it's still cheap, just stay away form the tourist places. Phuket and pattaya offer 1st world prices with 3rd world quality, I at least have 3rd world prices. Gets some taking used to living like I do, and I know it's not for many people, try it, you can always go back to what your used to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 My council tax is cheap here.... What council tax? Are we talking about Thailand here, or have I missed something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 @ Meatboy According to the latest data from the Office of National Statistics, the average weekly wage in the UK is £442 a week, so a tad under £23,000 a year. After tax and National Insurance deductions that equates to a take home pay, at current rates, of £1,500 a month. Factor in things like Coucil Tax and the like and the average salary isn't too hot. I will admit to occasionally looking at whether I would be better off back 'home' but the thought doesn't stay with me for long. I thought the basic hourly rate was in the region of 6 quid and hour . Thats less than 1000 GBP per month before tax. the majority of workers would be on less than 12,000 per year . - When you look at average income - even mean statistics - that rate will always be much higher than what the majority at the bottom are making, counterbalanced by a small number of people making millions per year. The average US income is around USD 65K p.a., but most people are struggling to get by on under 24K. And that gap's been growing enormously over the past thirty years, the average bloke's had a declining standard of living, while the top small percentage are earning - and owning - higher and higher percentages of the total. To the point where there's almost a third-world vs first-world split within our societies back home, similar to what we see here in Thaland. I get by an 24000B per month, but my house, car, motorbike is paid for, Oh, and I don't drink or smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
how241 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Not sure if someone already mentioned it, but LOS women are pretty cheap still.-Lots of guys would disagree, but of course they're not doing it right. Some claim to have real relationships that end up costing very little or even where she pays her own way! And a very select few (most likely young and hansum if not also hi-class and/or wealthy) actually marry into very big money. So horses for courses. . . Yep, true. Many would indeed disagree, I fear. Perhaps I should have commented that women in LOS are still a good value at the hourly rate. The lifetime fee is probably not as great a value. Diminishing returns and all that. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 TRicher, on 26 Mar 2013 - 14:06, said: Cheap? Well, I was in Bang Saen on Sunday. Had 2 large Sing-beers, 2 different snacks and a bottle of OJ for my daughter. The check bill was 139 baht. You can still rent a house for around 7000 baht per month. It is possible to find in-expensvie in Thailand. Just not in Pattaya-Jomtien, BKK, or any other area that is in demand. Bang Saen is not a bad choice. Lived there for over a year and 1/2. My old house is for rent in the cntre of Khon Kaen - 4000 baht a month - 3 bedrooms(2 en suite), 3 bathrooms, good security, satellite tv, air-con etc.Had a game of snooker near my house this morning - 20 baht an hour - 2 bottles of coke (2x 10 baht). Yesterday played at the golf driving range - one tray of balls - 5 baht. Playing golf tomorrow - 9 holes plus caddy 280 baht. Sexy massage with full extras(so I'm told) 500 baht, again very near my house. Got an oil change and check up on my car the other day - 600 baht Got my new CD system wired in my car a couple of months ago - 30 baht. AT LEAST 10 times these prices where I'm originally from in Scotland. Another thing, when I came here in 1992, it was 39 baht to the pound. 600 Baht for a check up and oil change, that was cheap all right, I paid 1000 Baht for an oil and filter change and no check up. I'm from Scotland too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Breakfast cereals are more expensive in Thailand, that does my head in. It's only 10 baht for a plate of cornflakes, but maybe other breakfast cereals are more expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Have not seen the obvious mentioned.... Membership of ThaiVisa is cheap. Yes, but you have to tread on eggshells when posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poanoi Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I know an american that bring oat meal with him from USA in travel bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Re #155 above: My TGF has never asked me for a penny either; doesn't speak English and wouldn't know what the word meant. Then again, with your wife I guess she finished nursing school before you met her. Addendum: So what if you met your (future) wife years ago and she said: "I want to go to nursing school but my family and I do not have the money for me to go." Would you have said: "Sorry, cookie. I need to be able to say down-the-road that my TGF/wife has NEVER asked me for even a penny (or satang), so come back later after you finish school and have started working." It's been said before I guess but didn't any of Thai Visa guys' western girlfriends ever ask for money? Any divorcees had almost all their assets ripped off by the Western ex? When I was divorced, my wife tried to get 50% of everything, but at the end of the day she only got about 5%, if even that, as I was 99% blameless, and there were no children, she would'nt work, was regularly drunk, and lived off me for twelve years, if I had to give her 50% of everything i would have burned the house down, the house was already up for sale when we split up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 ^Yes, people are cheap in Thailand. Life is definitely cheap in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isawasnake Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I would love it if they could somehow transplant a USA version of a super walmart in the middle of BKK. I guarantee you, 90% of the people saying it is cheaper here in Thailand would be shopping there in the long run. Just the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWorldwide Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Alcohol has become more expensive over the years in various parts of Asia, but tobacco remains incredibly cheap. I believe the countries involved, particularly China, will face an increasing health burden over the coming century, but I've long seen nicotine as the 'cheap narcotic for the masses'. We have some famous war photos in Oz that show that no matter how low they were on food, water and ammunition, the men somehow still had tobacco. I hated it with a passion almost from birth, but I can see why Big Tobacco must see Asia (and Russia ..) as their saviours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodolly Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 (edited) In reply to your head line Is there any thing cheap in Thailand? I have tio give you a great big resounding Yes. Lots of cheap expats. Edited because I had spelled resounding redounding and my spell checker didn't catch it. Does any one know what it means? Have to get me a dictionary. Edited March 31, 2013 by hellodolly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 My council tax is cheap here.... What council tax? Are we talking about Thailand here, or have I missed something? oh dear...maybe he should have added a smiley for you..so you would know he was joking... ....one hopes you dont need the joke explaining as well ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLCrab Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 (edited) Not sure if someone already mentioned it, but LOS women are pretty cheap still.-Lots of guys would disagree, but of course they're not doing it right. Let me guess: You're one those doing it right? The girls however are listening to Hikaru Utada singing: See I don't need a freeloader No I don't want a freeloader If you want a piece of this stuff Got to give, got to give something Edited March 31, 2013 by JLCrab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunFon Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 (edited) Let me guess: You're one those doing it right? - Many would say what I do isn't "right" in the first place, but wrt methodology aimed at getting good value for money, yes I've gotten much better over the years. My budget for that expense category (both direct and indirect) used to be well over 60K per month, and now it's usually under 10K, and both frequency and quality are better now than then, although these days I usually only do one at a time. Some would say I should count the cost of raising my new crop of little ones as an indirect cost of fooling around, but I don't, and basically all those costs are compensated for by the fact that I hardly spend anything on other kinds of entertainment - restaurants, clubbing, cinema are long out the window. Edited March 31, 2013 by FunFon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLCrab Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 (edited) Many would say ... Have you found many that would actually care? Edited March 31, 2013 by JLCrab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunFon Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 (edited) Many would say ... Have you found many that would actually care? - Yes very much so if I get into detail, but from past experience I've learned not to do so. I'm surprised at your level of personal engagement myself, if you're truly not interested in what I have to say, feel free to ignore me as you've suggested to others. Or perhaps you'd like to actually discuss something substantive rather than simply henpecking away? Edited March 31, 2013 by FunFon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevvy Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Compared to the prices back home, Thailand is as cheap as chips. I cant find one thing in Thailand that is not cheaper than back in OZ and our Bart for the OZ $1 is currently over Bt30. Cant complain. cars are cheaper in oz , cheese is cheaper , wine is cheaper , steak is cheaper, there are so many things cheaper in Aus than here. have you seen the new jaguar ? in Aus it is about $140,000.00(4and half million baht) try checking the prices here . 4 times the price. (13 million) really the prices i Aus are cheaper if you work it out . Thai wage per day 300 baht. Aus wage one day 4500 baht. coke in Thailand is 12 baht (4% of daily wage) coke in Aus is 120 baht (2.66% of daily wage) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunFon Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Compared to the prices back home, Thailand is as cheap as chips. I cant find one thing in Thailand that is not cheaper than back in OZ and our Bart for the OZ $1 is currently over Bt30. Cant complain. cars are cheaper in oz , cheese is cheaper , wine is cheaper , steak is cheaper, there are so many things cheaper in Aus than here. have you seen the new jaguar ? in Aus it is about $140,000.00(4and half million baht) try checking the prices here . 4 times the price. (13 million) really the prices i Aus are cheaper if you work it out . Thai wage per day 300 baht. Aus wage one day 4500 baht. coke in Thailand is 12 baht (4% of daily wage) coke in Aus is 120 baht (2.66% of daily wage) - Bejeezus people do go round and round. The only item I'd ever consider actually spending my money on in your list is cheese, maybe a block every two or three months. And it isn't even good for me. And all the categories except the soft drink - which IMO argues against your thesis not for it - have already been dealt with as part of the list of "exceptions that prove the rule". But feel free to pointlessly blather on rather than actually putting in the thought required to contribute to the topic constructively. . . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Compared to the prices back home, Thailand is as cheap as chips. I cant find one thing in Thailand that is not cheaper than back in OZ and our Bart for the OZ $1 is currently over Bt30. Cant complain. coke in Thailand is 12 baht (4% of daily wage) coke in Aus is 120 baht (2.66% of daily wage) Who cares? Most of us are not living on the Thai minimum wage, so most necessities are cheap compared to the West. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaullyW Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 (edited) Again, I think discussing value is more interesting and useful than discussing price. It can be argued that Thailand, at the lower end of the price continuum, provides good value in a host of areas. Food is certainly one. Intimate attention is another. Thailand does this reasonably well because a much larger percentage of the population looks for value at this price point. Example: you can have what many would call a great meal at just over 1 USD. However, if you look for value at the upper end, say, a great quality and well prepared steak in a seaside venue, like, say Miami Beach, then you will not often find great value here. Countries like the US and OZ, it can be argued, provide exceptional (but perhaps dwindling) value at the middle. Large middle classes, so no wonder. Also, one of the of great qualities of a large and strong middle class -- something Thailand is completely lacking -- is the price pressure the class puts on both the lower and upper ends of the price continuum. In Thailand you have no pressures at the top, and especially because of the wealth stratification here and the fact that the upper end is very far and away from the low. One result of this is that prices are grossly inflated you might say at the top. Luxury items here (with the exception of the hotels industry in Thailand which is arguably still a very good value) are hardly ever a good value. Just simple market economics really. Edited March 31, 2013 by PaullyW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRescue Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 (edited) Depends what you mean. Im not buying into this everything has gone up in price too much arguement. The pound has been over-valued for years. The dollar is way over-valued. The USA is by far the poorest country in the world now Seriously though - as someone pointed out (Naam).. exchange rates are quite similar now to as they were in 1990. Between 1990 - 2005 there was a huge housing inflation throughout the western world. We saw bubbles in Thailand but nothing like the house inflation in other countries. Houses mainly seem to depreciate here. Basic food meat and veg has trippled in that time in Thailand. Hotels.. maybe doubled in many places. Household bills, certainly. Second hand cars.. much cheaper. If you are comparing popular tourist places with what? What is your benchmark? Inflation in the west has been massive over the last 20 years when you factor in houses.. and why should you measure inflation on a basket of groceries when commodity prices are much the same all over the world except indeed in protectionist/socialist countries like Thailand where the government are controlling the price of food- doesnt make sense does it. I first came to TL in 1995 as a backpacker. I spend 3 times more now per day than i did then. But ive got 10 times as much money.I Edited March 31, 2013 by BuffaloRescue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunFon Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Let me guess: You're one those doing it right? - relevant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nana Cowboy Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 ^^ A pint of real beer on par with a UK beer is more like 200-300 baht here, so £4-£6, and you're comparing London prices don't forget, plus those prices have typically always been in that region. While stuff has gone up the world over, it has gone up exponentially here, currency anomalies notwithstanding. Fuel, as an example, is 3-500% from 10 years ago. Only things that are still cheap is food (on the street), rent and cheap plastic tat from China. the UK is the last place I'd choose to live. Oh wait I forgot that 80% of this forum is from there in spite of what jingthing says Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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