Chalerm Denies Meeting Thaksin In Hong Kong

[ZhouZhou]

If it was the UK or US govt. after your ass, you know they would be sticking to you like ugly on a hog. You wouldn't be able to go to the bathroom without someone watching you, closely.. 'How many sheets of paper did you use? Don't you think that's a little extravagent?"

thais use all that water guns. so there isn't much toilet paper sheets to count.

[waza]

ZhouZhou>>>>>

Give him a chance.

After all if everything Chalerm says is a lie (pretty close I'd say) then actually being in HK could also be a porky.

Waza>>>>

If I was Thaksin I would cut the funding to the cyber warrior program, its just not attracting quality posters any more.

http://www.prachatai.com/english/node/1686

Hahaha thanks for the big laugh Waza!!! So should Thaksin be cutting funding on this failing program, or be raising funding to attract a higher caliber of warrior?? Maybe try some Indian warriors with a higher level of English literacy??..... :-)

Hahaha I think you onto something there eyes wide Open, given the standard of the, "I'm not a Thaksin supporter, but..." comments then Thaksin must have outsourced his cyber warrior program to an Indian call center.

[rubl]

If it was the UK or US govt. after your ass, you know they would be sticking to you like ugly on a hog. You wouldn't be able to go to the bathroom without someone watching you, closely.. 'How many sheets of paper did you use? Don't you think that's a little extravagent?"

thais use all that water guns. so there isn't much toilet paper sheets to count.

Seeing the 'if this was the UK or US' remarking 'Thai use waterguns' seems a bit off the mark. Mind you a sheet tally of zero would also raise eyebrows in those same UK/US

[FDog]

There is absolutely no reason for him to deny him meeting Mr T. Is there something illegal in him meeting?

Perhaps he, for once, was telling the truth that Mr T doesn't really care about him so didn't bother meeting.

What's the big deal anyway. Didn't know it was against the law to meet someone.

[ZhouZhou]

If it was the UK or US govt. after your ass, you know they would be sticking to you like ugly on a hog. You wouldn't be able to go to the bathroom without someone watching you, closely.. 'How many sheets of paper did you use? Don't you think that's a little extravagent?"

thais use all that water guns. so there isn't much toilet paper sheets to count.

Seeing the 'if this was the UK or US' remarking 'Thai use waterguns' seems a bit off the mark. Mind you a sheet tally of zero would also raise eyebrows in those same UK/US

because it isn't the UK or the US. but okay, nice story about that government control obsession with the amount of toilet paper in UK/US but i fail to see any relevance.

[rubl]

There is absolutely no reason for him to deny him meeting Mr T. Is there something illegal in him meeting?

Perhaps he, for once, was telling the truth that Mr T doesn't really care about him so didn't bother meeting.

What's the big deal anyway. Didn't know it was against the law to meet someone.

As Dept. PM Pol. Captain it seems a bit ludicrous to go to HK to be able to talk person-to-person with the boss who (allegedly) had chastised you in a skyping session. Of course all very democratic, lots of other countries where a Dept. PM who also happens to be Pol. Captain, to go and try to see a criminal fugitive. Happens all the time, nothing special.

Edited March 26, 2013 by rubl

[ZhouZhou]

maybe he was there because he has a pretty mainland girl as gik.

[FDog]

There is absolutely no reason for him to deny him meeting Mr T. Is there something illegal in him meeting?

Perhaps he, for once, was telling the truth that Mr T doesn't really care about him so didn't bother meeting.

What's the big deal anyway. Didn't know it was against the law to meet someone.

As Dept. PM Pol. Captain it seems a bit ludicrous to go to HK to be able to talk person-to-person with the boss who (allegedly) had chastised you in a skyping session. Of course all very democratic, lots of other countries where a Dept. PM who also happens to be Pol. Captain, to go and try to see a criminal fugitive. Happens all the time, nothing special.

So what is wrong with meeting him? is it illegal? If not then what does it matter.

Thais obviously don't care, they voted the party in.

The Dems must be be far worse and untrustworthy if they thought Mr T was so bad yet still voted that party into office.

Time they looked in the mirror.

[rubl]

There is absolutely no reason for him to deny him meeting Mr T. Is there something illegal in him meeting?

Perhaps he, for once, was telling the truth that Mr T doesn't really care about him so didn't bother meeting.

What's the big deal anyway. Didn't know it was against the law to meet someone.

As Dept. PM Pol. Captain it seems a bit ludicrous to go to HK to be able to talk person-to-person with the boss who (allegedly) had chastised you in a skyping session. Of course all very democratic, lots of other countries where a Dept. PM who also happens to be Pol. Captain, to go and try to see a criminal fugitive. Happens all the time, nothing special.

So what is wrong with meeting him? is it illegal? If not then what does it matter.

Thais obviously don't care, they voted the party in.

The Dems must be be far worse and untrustworthy if they thought Mr T was so bad yet still voted that party into office.

Time they looked in the mirror.

I remember the discussion on 'skying in to 'advise only'. Same 'what's wrong with that'.

Forget it,. Itf by now you still don't (want to) understand how wrong it is to have a skying criminal fugitive to order his cabinet how he wants to have his country run, if you're wondwering what's wrong with a Dept. PM searching for a criminal to listen to him and maybe plead with him to please, pretty please with sugar, let me keep my position, then I fear you're beyond help.

IMHO off course and I think with more sense than others

PS the fluent move from Thaksin to his party and back is really enlightening when talking about his government

Edited March 26, 2013 by rubl

[FDog]

There is absolutely no reason for him to deny him meeting Mr T. Is there something illegal in him meeting?

Perhaps he, for once, was telling the truth that Mr T doesn't really care about him so didn't bother meeting.

What's the big deal anyway. Didn't know it was against the law to meet someone.

As Dept. PM Pol. Captain it seems a bit ludicrous to go to HK to be able to talk person-to-person with the boss who (allegedly) had chastised you in a skyping session. Of course all very democratic, lots of other countries where a Dept. PM who also happens to be Pol. Captain, to go and try to see a criminal fugitive. Happens all the time, nothing special.

So what is wrong with meeting him? is it illegal? If not then what does it matter.

Thais obviously don't care, they voted the party in.

The Dems must be be far worse and untrustworthy if they thought Mr T was so bad yet still voted that party into office.

Time they looked in the mirror.

I remember the discussion on 'skying in to 'advise only'. Same 'what's wrong with that'.

Forget it,. Itf by now you still don't (want to) understand how wrong it is to have a skying criminal fugitive to order his cabinet how he wants to have his country run, if you're wondwering what's wrong with a Dept. PM searching for a criminal to listen to him and maybe plead with him to please, pretty please with sugar, let me keep my position, then I fear you're beyond help.

IMHO off course and I think with more sense than others

PS the fluent move from Thaksin to his party and back is really enlightening when talking about his government

Well you feel more strongly about it than the Thais who voted the party into office then. How do you know the reason he wanted to meet? Is your crystal ball polished?

The Dems must really be pathetic if they can't get into office when this so so bad.

Edited March 26, 2013 by FDog

[yoshiwara]

There is absolutely no reason for him to deny him meeting Mr T. Is there something illegal in him meeting?

Perhaps he, for once, was telling the truth that Mr T doesn't really care about him so didn't bother meeting.

What's the big deal anyway. Didn't know it was against the law to meet someone.

As Dept. PM Pol. Captain it seems a bit ludicrous to go to HK to be able to talk person-to-person with the boss who (allegedly) had chastised you in a skyping session. Of course all very democratic, lots of other countries where a Dept. PM who also happens to be Pol. Captain, to go and try to see a criminal fugitive. Happens all the time, nothing special.

So what is wrong with meeting him? is it illegal? If not then what does it matter.

Thais obviously don't care, they voted the party in.

The Dems must be be far worse and untrustworthy if they thought Mr T was so bad yet still voted that party into office.

Time they looked in the mirror.

It matters enough for Chalerm to deny that he is discussing government business with a convicted criminal.

PTP was voted in. Thaksin wasn't. He is still a felon.

[FDog]

What makes you think he did meet him?

[yoshiwara]

It is irrelevant whether someone feels strongly about it. Having government business openly directed by a wanted criminal is against the rules and more importantly would lead to the dissolution of the government and the party if it was openly admitted. So there are 2 things going on. Firstly to be seen to be doing it for the benefit of Thaksin and the reds. And secondly to suffer the indignity of openly lying. Who cares? You do for starters. The story of some Thaksin apologists strictly following the party (Thaksin) line is to both welcome the government directed by Thaksin by having ministers paying homage and at the same time follow up on the lying by trying to kick the matter into the long grass. Just a hack really. And not a very good one either.

Edited March 26, 2013 by yoshiwara

[waza]

So what is wrong with meeting him? is it illegal? If not then what does it matter.

Thais obviously don't care, they voted the party in.

The Dems must be be far worse and untrustworthy if they thought Mr T was so bad yet still voted that party into office.

Time they looked in the mirror.

I remember the discussion on 'skying in to 'advise only'. Same 'what's wrong with that'.

Forget it,. Itf by now you still don't (want to) understand how wrong it is to have a skying criminal fugitive to order his cabinet how he wants to have his country run, if you're wondwering what's wrong with a Dept. PM searching for a criminal to listen to him and maybe plead with him to please, pretty please with sugar, let me keep my position, then I fear you're beyond help.

IMHO off course and I think with more sense than others

PS the fluent move from Thaksin to his party and back is really enlightening when talking about his government

Well you feel more strongly about it than the Thais who voted the party into office then. How do you know the reason he wanted to meet? Is your crystal ball polished?

The Dems must really be pathetic if they can't get into office when this so so bad.

How do you know how strongly the Thai voters feels about this issue FDog? I believe its as obvious as dogs balz that Charlem was a bit miffed that he was left out when Tida Thawornseth, Jatuporn Prompan and Nisit Sinthuprai, were summond to HK for a pow wow with Thaksin so he could explain why amnesty will be postponed while the charter amendments are rushed through.

PS: I realise that you have a pathetic understanding about the political process but the Democrats cant get into office even when things are this bad because there is still over 2 years till the next election and dont worry thing will be much much worse by then.

Edited March 26, 2013 by waza

[rubl]

Instead of the obvious "what's wrong with this" let's have a look at "what's right with this"

Here we have a criminal fugitive who broke his solemn word in bail jumping in 2008, who skypes in to his cabinet to give his orders on how to run his country. A Dept. PM who is also a Police Captain who recently felt the scorn of the skyping criminal for (allegedly) being too soft in handling the second 'war on drugs'. A Dept. PM who admitted to have gone to HK to try to meet the criminal fugitive, but failed where not only other members of the fugitive criminal's political party "Thaksin thinks, Pheu Thai acts" succeeded, but even with said Dept. PM admitting not to have known those others also went to HK to seek out the master.

Clearly for all to see and very obviously nothing wrong with this. Business as usual, democracy as many countries would like to have ot. A criminal who can't be brought to account running the country via skyping in orders. An unelected elite billionair giving orders. Surely nothing wrong there ? Why, countries like the UK, Sweden, Germany, Greece would be happy to have such wonderful criminals to run their country (*).

(*) Italy missing in the list as people there already have Silvio B.

[Mosha]

"Asked if Thaksin was worried about the Bt2-trillion borrowing bill, Chalerm said he didn't meet Thaksin so he did not know that Thaksin was worried about the bill or not."

Corker!!

-mel.

Which makes Chalerm either a liar or just stupid.

Decisions, decisions.

[harryfrompattaya]

Frankly who cares what the idiots are doing - just more waste of newspaper space. Every time I see / hear about these stupid and idiotic Nation news reports just confirms my long held decision to never purchase or read the poorly written trash it churns out as an excuse for news reporting.

Yes I met a Farang in a bar that met Thaksin last week I was happy I bought the Farang a beer He told me a lot about Thaksin now I know

I am now looking in the bars for someone that knows Obama

[scorecard]

Stories like this confuse me to some degree.....

1. Is Chalerm so stupid he thinks people will actually believe him?

2. Chalerm thinks the public is so stupid that they will believe him.

3. In the end just say whatever you want as Chalerm is so powerful

it simply does not matter.

The odds of Chalerm being in Hong Kong, and Thaksin being in Hong Kong,

and the two not meeting is........zero.....

Well maybe one of the paymasters phones was accidentally turned off. But I cannot believe that chalerm has no others phone numbers for the paymaster, and I cannot believe that chalerm has no alternative way, through others, to make contact with the paymaster.

On the other hand maybe the paymaster was deliberately avoiding him?

Edited March 26, 2013 by scorecard

[NongKhaiKid]

Why bother making up such stupid lies? So what if you met him? We already know you're in his pocket anyway.

No doubt the lie was delivered in his usual arrogant " don't dare argue with me " manner. So he went to meet Thaksin without finding out where he was staying or arranging a meeting, and this clown is a Deputy PM ! Says it all about Thailand

[scorecard]

Perhaps it's a bit hint - stop making excuses and get yourself down South.

Edited March 26, 2013 by scorecard

[Thai at Heart]

What was he doing in hk anyway?

[NongKhaiKid]

Perhaps it's a bit hint - stop making excuses and get yourself down South.

The IN Channel news at 0700 has just announced he will be visiting the south BUT NOT SURE WHEN ! The was some ducking and weaving about him having to represent the government in a debate

[Ricardo]

DPM Chalerm cancels his latest Malaysia peace-trip, and scurries off to Hong Kong for reasons not-given, then fails to meet up with the Big Boss, on whose behalf he wrote (in just one week-end) an amnesty-bill, and after a year and a half of following instructions and supporting the legal P.M.

Surely he doesn't fear that he will be edged-out, in a reshuffle which (even as a DPM) he knows nothing about, or that his former close-relationship with Thaksin is deteriorating ? Well if he didn't before, he surely should now, "Infamy, infamy, they've all got it in-for-me !".

Doesn't anyone appreciate all his loyalty ? Or his successes in suppressing the jet-ski mafia & other tourist scams ? And sorting-out the problems in the South ?

Perhaps he might have a little drinky-poos get-together with Sondhi or Newin, to discuss the dangers inherent, in supping with the devil ?

[Keesters]

It's not that he didn't meet but that he wanted to meet is what seems important to me. Our deputy PM wanted to meet with a Thai criminal on the run!!?? Is that appropriate?

[Tatsujin]

Lying is so ingrained here, I automatically believe the opposite of what I hear now. And it's almost always then correct.

[maidu]

Regardless of whether Chalerm did or didn't meet the "T" that's he's business , ....

Well, not really. It's the business of Thai authorities, particularly the #1 Thai policeman - to apprehend fugitives. If you or I were found guilty of a crime in Thailand, and then ran off - any Thai authority who met with us would be required to put us under arrest, and arrange for us to be returned to Thailand.

[maidu]

Lying is so ingrained here, I automatically believe the opposite of what I hear now. And it's almost always then correct.

I've said that for years. For Thaksin, lying is compulsive because he's such a conniving scamster. For Chalerm, lying is partly the result of an alcohol-addled brain - so perhaps we should pity him.

[Wossnext]

Why bother making up such stupid lies? So what if you met him? We already know you're in his pocket anyway.

What a complete <deleted>. How embarrassing to live in a country with such a deputy PM!

55555! Couldn't have put it better myself, I am in no doubt whatsoever as to how clever these Thai politician's perceive themselves to be, they do not even seem to try to cover up their corrupt practices or lies? It's almost funny! Kind'a like a Thai version of "Yes Prime Minister".

[ZhouZhou]

It's not that he didn't meet but that he wanted to meet is what seems important to me. Our deputy PM wanted to meet with a Thai criminal on the run!!?? Is that appropriate?

that he wanted to meet him is just another lie.

cannot trust this guys words when he is having his "fun time" with the journos.

[ZhouZhou]

What was he doing in hk anyway?

obviously telling lies. or what you think he does. Edited March 27, 2013 by ZhouZhou