Have You Got Yours ?

[weegee]

All the hype about electricity next month....This is the answer, simple but effective. They are selling like hot cakes around here. Funny enough the price of Kero just went up..]

[FunFon]

These are bright enough to light up the whole room, read by without damaging your eyes, and fitted on the larger bottles will last for many weeks before you have to refill.

-

[Dancealot]

Very clever guys. A diesel generator just for posting on TV would also not be a luxury.

[Soutpeel]

These are bright enough to light up the whole room, read by without damaging your eyes, and fitted on the larger bottles will last for many weeks before you have to refill.

-

You would use these indoor's ?...yes would be bright enough to light up the room...certainly if the cylinder leaks and goes up...

[weegee]

Got a couple of those too....runs off large bottle, and lasts for months and months.

Have a diesel generator but made in China.....waiting for parts .....not three months old yet.

Cant beat the old hurricane lamp ...

[FunFon]

Very clever guys. A diesel generator just for posting on TV would also not be a luxury.

-

As long as your ISP was capable of maintaining power to all the routing devices between your house and its trunk connections to the net. . .

[Dancealot]

Very clever guys. A diesel generator just for posting on TV would also not be a luxury.

-

As long as your ISP was capable of maintaining power to all the routing devices between your house and its trunk connections to the net. . .

True, true, but remember the main power line goes straight to the fridge . .

[FunFon]

Soutpeel, on 29 Mar 2013 - 09:32, said:

You would use these indoor's ?...yes would be bright enough to light up the room...certainly if the cylinder leaks and goes up...

-

Sure you have to be careful, but hundreds of millions of people use the same bottles for cooking.

Ideally the bottles are outdoors and routed to permanent fixtures, but we're talking temporary/emergency use, and since you're not running aircon, the room's going to be well ventilated anyway right?

Even in Thailand they do put in the "rotten eggs" smell, if that sense is shot get a Thai to sniff around after you've screwed everything in place, if you can't smell anything you're fine.

Kerosene is much more dangerous, both fires and the fumes - my ex-brother-in-law died of carbon monoxide suffocation in a caravan from that, horrible way to go.

[arthurwait]

Whats this about electricity ?

[weegee]

Whats this about electricity ?

NO hab !!!

[FunFon]

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/620770-thailand-will-run-out-of-natural-gas-in-10-years/

[Payboy]

Just need to work out how to run my aircon on kerosene.

[ignis]

Put it off for years but last week bought a AC/DC automatic re-charge air filer for the Fish, always had 2 battery ones, used a few times, so now if electric goes out unit will automatically switch to battery up to 4 hours.

Maybe a Solar Panel to have power for a fan ? maybe a idea

[jocko]

Soutpeel, on 29 Mar 2013 - 09:32, said:

You would use these indoor's ?...yes would be bright enough to light up the room...certainly if the cylinder leaks and goes up...

-

Sure you have to be careful, but hundreds of millions of people use the same bottles for cooking.

Ideally the bottles are outdoors and routed to permanent fixtures, but we're talking temporary/emergency use, and since you're not running aircon, the room's going to be well ventilated anyway right?

Even in Thailand they do put in the "rotten eggs" smell, if that sense is shot get a Thai to sniff around after you've screwed everything in place, if you can't smell anything you're fine.

Kerosene is much more dangerous, both fires and the fumes - my ex-brother-in-law died of carbon monoxide suffocation in a caravan from that, horrible way to go.

Soapy water around the joint and check for bubbles standard practice in the gas industry unless you have a calibrated leak detector.

I remember when portable gas fires had the bottle in the back of the casing and a push fit connection .

[FunFon]

Just need to work out how to run my aircon on kerosene.

-

Entirely feasible, any reliable heat source can be used for cooling. LPG/CNG/LNG would be a much better fuel though. Shipping reefers and units designed for off-grid use are not exactly rocket science, nor all the kero fridges used worldwide, lived for years with them in outback Oz.

But certainly not cheap for those with reliable cheap electricity due to relatively volume, scale of manufacturing.

[weegee]

Put it off for years but last week bought a AC/DC automatic re-charge air filer for the Fish, always had 2 battery ones, used a few times, so now if electric goes out unit will automatically switch to battery up to 4 hours.

Maybe a Solar Panel to have power for a fan ? maybe a idea

Beem following a young guy's ideas on Utube for a while now, and i think his ideas and comments from other enthusiasts, make sense....

It's done by starting with a fresno(forget spelling) screen and steam...produces well from sunlight...the steam engine for it costs USD $600 approx, and delivers about 3HP...to drive generator....and supply hot water to the house. Going on the heat here and lack of water for my lawns, i am experimenting with the idea of hooking one of these systems to the underground bore for water....and switch to power when needed.

[FunFon]

Beem following a young guy's ideas on Utube for a while now, and i think his ideas and comments from other enthusiasts, make sense....

It's done by starting with a fresno(forget spelling) screen and steam...produces well from sunlight...the steam engine for it costs USD $600 approx, and delivers about 3HP...to drive generator....and supply hot water to the house. Going on the heat here and lack of water for my lawns, i am experimenting with the idea of hooking one of these systems to the underground bore for water....and switch to power when needed.

-

Bleeding edge is expensive.

There are totally bog-standard systems much more reliable and cost-effective.

Diesel generators, old ones retro-fitted for gas or modern ones, some even dual-fuel.

Big banks of batteries, can purchase second-hand from telco auctions, trickle-charge from solar.

Top up when the gennie's running, needed to power heavy-duty stuff, rest of the time lights & electronics off the batteries.

If you're using the gennie a lot, then never mind about the solar.

The real key is designing the house and landscape to reduce the need to consume in the first place.

Modern western usage patterns are IMO completely unsustainable long-term, may as well design any new-built infrastructure to allow for drastically reduced consumption, then make the over-consumption items like aircon and private cars the tacked-on afterthoughts, rather than the other way around.

[arthurwait]

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/620770-thailand-will-run-out-of-natural-gas-in-10-years/

Whats this about electricity ?

NO hab !!!

Thanks.

[weegee]

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/620770-thailand-will-run-out-of-natural-gas-in-10-years/

>

Whats this about electricity ?

NO hab !!!

Thanks.

Your welcome

[weegee]

Wife still is saying....the elec will go off for sure a lot next month ....

[Dancealot]

Wife still is saying....the elec will go off for sure a lot next month ....

It is already starting here. about 1 hour a day at the most inconvenient moments like:

6am morning quiet coffee reading the news.

After seeing 3/4 of Django.

Charging my camera batteries just before going on a trip.

It's devlish i tell you!

[krisb]

Decent generator for sure then. Or perhaps the big outlay for a solar setup.

I assume if the power goes out and you have solar, the power stays on?

Or there's always the treadmill hooked up to a genny and get some hampsters

[weegee]

Dont worry it should be over by July...ha ha

[weegee]

maybe a dynamo hooked up to a exercise bike????. But dont think the wife will be too impressed peddling while I watch TV.....

[weegee]

Soutpeel, on 29 Mar 2013 - 09:32, said:

You would use these indoor's ?...yes would be bright enough to light up the room...certainly if the cylinder leaks and goes up...

Soapy water around the joint and check for bubbles standard practice in the gas industry unless you have a calibrated leak detector.

I remember when portable gas fires had the bottle in the back of the casing and a push fit connection .

I remember those too...they were a worry

[JLCrab]

What I've got is the 710 MW Nam Phong EGAT power plant about 30 KM away powered by the only onshore natural gas field in Thailand (Phu Horm). While it's been commented that the power output once in the national grid can be diverted anywhere, I don't think the local officials would be too happy if (what they feel is) an excessive amount was diverted from the local grid.

The gas itself is in the ground and isn't going anywhere.

[ignis]

Thank goodness bought a AC/DC automatic re-charge air filer for the Fish, as the electric was out for over 1 hours this morning

[FunFon]

Decent generator for sure then. Or perhaps the big outlay for a solar setup.

I assume if the power goes out and you have solar, the power stays on?

-

A solar setup sufficient for anything more than lights and light electronics is a very large investment and not worth considering IMO if you're usually connected to the grid.

The kind of petrol gennie used for construction sites is fine for temporary outages, but will burn out if used continuously.

You will need to go out, start it up and manually switch over/plug in the appliances directly, or the house circuits if you've arranged an electrician to install the necessary fittings, but again, depending on the gennie's output you won't be able to run all your heavy-load items at the same time, need to know what draws what.

The automated systems used at hospitals etc are of course very very expensive.

Probably cheaper to just plan on going on a bit of a holiday if it seems the power's going to be out for more than a few days at a time.

[weegee]

Thank goodness bought a AC/DC automatic re-charge air filer for the Fish, as the electric was out for over 1 hours this morning

Woe is me....yesterday bought batteries "AAA" and when I got home and opened same, noticed the package was torn and glued again in one corner...

Yep!!! you guessed it....Batteries were flatter than a S**T Carters hat.

[kevvy]

Put it off for years but last week bought a AC/DC automatic re-charge air filer for the Fish, always had 2 battery ones, used a few times, so now if electric goes out unit will automatically switch to battery up to 4 hours.

Maybe a Solar Panel to have power for a fan ? maybe a idea

Beem following a young guy's ideas on Utube for a while now, and i think his ideas and comments from other enthusiasts, make sense....

It's done by starting with a fresno(forget spelling) screen and steam...produces well from sunlight...the steam engine for it costs USD $600 approx, and delivers about 3HP...to drive generator....and supply hot water to the house. Going on the heat here and lack of water for my lawns, i am experimenting with the idea of hooking one of these systems to the underground bore for water....and switch to power when needed.

can you please give us the utube post