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I don't want to kill in wanted animals such as dogs and cats

Wild cats can be a problem because they attract snakes such as pythons

I don't want to kill these animals as that would be easy and I don't agree with it but I would like advice in shooting them with tranqualiers so I can put them in a box and move them with to dog and cat rescue or to a temple

I think this is fare

Please don't bother to give me stupid responses as to animal cruelty as this is what I am trying to avoid

Thanks

Maybe they're ate companies that specialise on these things but I would rarther do it myself as they would need to be on standby 24 7 to catch them as they keep movin. Nests and shit

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If your not qualified to administer tranquilizers, then don't attempt it. It would be a lot easier to build a large box trap. Make it out of wood and fully enclosed, The dark will help the captured animal to settle down.

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Cats and dogs don't make nests - also, do you really think that, aw forget it, it's too stupid to even contemplate.

u know what i mean., not a nest actually but they do make a home and settle down. make me laugh if u think i actually mean that a dog and cat makes a nest ha ha

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does anyone know how i can buy sorry i mean where i can buy Citronella oil or buy a ready made trap. as for building one. any youtube links?

This is my plan.

1 st step is to put Citronella round and put a trap somewhere

2 nd step if that fails then a transiler gun or even some food with some tqualisers inside

3 rd step which i am really trying to avoid is to blast them away.

they have to go sorry

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a transiler gun or even some food with some tqualisers inside

expert advice on Thaivisa is always highly appreciated thumbsup.gif but it should be more specific, e.g. stating the calibre of the transiler gun and whether it is possible to substitute the tqualisers with equalisers. reason: tqualisers are not easily available.

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OP - what has been suggested to you is called a humane animal trap. There are several ways to make one - try an Internet image search. You can bait the trap with a little food and you will likely catch the animals one at a time. Build the trap correctly and it can be used as a transport cage. Take the animal to where you think is best and used the trap again. With dogs you will have to have a larger cage / trap ... Also - make every effort to make sure you do not have waste food in your garden, patio, yard area.

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Just visit any Vet and buy some sleeping tablets, Put it into a sausage or a some meat. Once asleep can move it. Like doing double the good deed :)

Also remember many soi dogs are very friendly and you may not even need to drug them to fall asleep and will be happy to come with you, as long as you give some food.

PS. Not sure where you live, but i have never seen a wild cat and also never seen a python on the streets that is

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Just visit any Vet and buy some sleeping tablets, Put it into a sausage or a some meat. Once asleep can move it. Like doing double the good deed smile.png

Also remember many soi dogs are very friendly and you may not even need to drug them to fall asleep and will be happy to come with you, as long as you give some food.

PS. Not sure where you live, but i have never seen a wild cat and also never seen a python on the streets that is

We have had neighbors cats vanish & there is a python in the area, not everyone lives in suburbia.

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Just visit any Vet and buy some sleeping tablets, Put it into a sausage or a some meat. Once asleep can move it. Like doing double the good deed smile.png

Also remember many soi dogs are very friendly and you may not even need to drug them to fall asleep and will be happy to come with you, as long as you give some food.

PS. Not sure where you live, but i have never seen a wild cat and also never seen a python on the streets that is

We have wild (abandoned) cats where we live and when the guy in front of my house cleared his land, they found a 4.5 metre python less than 30 metres from my pool. Shame that it didn't eat the cats.

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Just visit any Vet and buy some sleeping tablets, Put it into a sausage or a some meat. Once asleep can move it. Like doing double the good deed smile.png

Also remember many soi dogs are very friendly and you may not even need to drug them to fall asleep and will be happy to come with you, as long as you give some food.

PS. Not sure where you live, but i have never seen a wild cat and also never seen a python on the streets that is

We have wild (abandoned) cats where we live and when the guy in front of my house cleared his land, they found a 4.5 metre python less than 30 metres from my pool. Shame that it didn't eat the cats.

Big snake so must have been eating something! It could be argued that there were more cats around than the python could eat but with a 4.5m python one would have to assume that it would have to be a considerable number of cats.
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Just visit any Vet and buy some sleeping tablets, Put it into a sausage or a some meat. Once asleep can move it. Like doing double the good deed smile.png

Also remember many soi dogs are very friendly and you may not even need to drug them to fall asleep and will be happy to come with you, as long as you give some food.

PS. Not sure where you live, but i have never seen a wild cat and also never seen a python on the streets that is

We have wild (abandoned) cats where we live and when the guy in front of my house cleared his land, they found a 4.5 metre python less than 30 metres from my pool. Shame that it didn't eat the cats.

Where do you live?

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Just visit any Vet and buy some sleeping tablets, Put it into a sausage or a some meat. Once asleep can move it. Like doing double the good deed smile.png

Also remember many soi dogs are very friendly and you may not even need to drug them to fall asleep and will be happy to come with you, as long as you give some food.

PS. Not sure where you live, but i have never seen a wild cat and also never seen a python on the streets that is

We have wild (abandoned) cats where we live and when the guy in front of my house cleared his land, they found a 4.5 metre python less than 30 metres from my pool. Shame that it didn't eat the cats.

Big snake so must have been eating something! It could be argued that there were more cats around than the python could eat but with a 4.5m python one would have to assume that it would have to be a considerable number of cats.

one can also assume someone likes to exaggerate here and therethumbsup.gif or not know the difference between wild and abandoned cats

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if you can get a vet to supply at cost price its about 300 baht for the drug per dog, then you have to be taught how to assemble the dart so it releases the sedative on impact. Dogs usually run like hell when hit so be prepared for a run.

Target muscle on top of the back leg if possible.

Best contact John at soi dogs Phuket for accurate information.

When you have moved them all others will move in, and the rats will still attract the snakes more than cats.

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Just visit any Vet and buy some sleeping tablets, Put it into a sausage or a some meat. Once asleep can move it. Like doing double the good deed smile.png

Also remember many soi dogs are very friendly and you may not even need to drug them to fall asleep and will be happy to come with you, as long as you give some food.

PS. Not sure where you live, but i have never seen a wild cat and also never seen a python on the streets that is

We have wild (abandoned) cats where we live and when the guy in front of my house cleared his land, they found a 4.5 metre python less than 30 metres from my pool. Shame that it didn't eat the cats.

Big snake so must have been eating something! It could be argued that there were more cats around than the python could eat but with a 4.5m python one would have to assume that it would have to be a considerable number of cats.

one can also assume someone likes to exaggerate here and therethumbsup.gif or not know the difference between wild and abandoned cats

Feral is a common word for abandoned cat or ones born in the streets and allies. Feral cats are most often unapproachable ... very wary little critters.

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Just visit any Vet and buy some sleeping tablets, Put it into a sausage or a some meat. Once asleep can move it. Like doing double the good deed smile.png

Also remember many soi dogs are very friendly and you may not even need to drug them to fall asleep and will be happy to come with you, as long as you give some food.

PS. Not sure where you live, but i have never seen a wild cat and also never seen a python on the streets that is

problem with cats sleeping is that if they eat the bait when i am asleep then they have time to sleep and wake up before i even have a chance to check the bait plus they can be everywhere.

as for Pythons. beleive me they are out there. they are non venmois but they can be more than 4 meters long and sufficate a small child, and more but most adults would not got clost to one where are a buffalow or a car and chickens can. unless a human was sleeping nect to one. they norally eat oncve every few months. nice snakes but my farourate are the kin conbras. they are cool as xxxx. dangerous venomous but with children running around everywhere i have to put them first

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Just visit any Vet and buy some sleeping tablets, Put it into a sausage or a some meat. Once asleep can move it. Like doing double the good deed smile.png

Also remember many soi dogs are very friendly and you may not even need to drug them to fall asleep and will be happy to come with you, as long as you give some food.

PS. Not sure where you live, but i have never seen a wild cat and also never seen a python on the streets that is

We have wild (abandoned) cats where we live and when the guy in front of my house cleared his land, they found a 4.5 metre python less than 30 metres from my pool. Shame that it didn't eat the cats.

Big snake so must have been eating something! It could be argued that there were more cats around than the python could eat but with a 4.5m python one would have to assume that it would have to be a considerable number of cats.

one can also assume someone likes to exaggerate here and therethumbsup.gif or not know the difference between wild and abandoned cats

i have seen pthonsa seat around 19 chickens, noraly u know when i apython has attacked as most of your luvstock is gone.

i released one into the wild a while ago that was 4 meters and that was consirered to be a small one and none agressive accordingto the snake experts.

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Big snake so must have been eating something! It could be argued that there were more cats around than the python could eat but with a 4.5m python one would have to assume that it would have to be a considerable number of cats.

Hmmm, thinking about it, there do seem to be less cats around. Still too many though.

We also have monitor lizards up here. That would be interesting to watch - python v monitor!

Where do you live?

At the pointy end if the island (NE) Undeveloped land on two sides of my house but this about to change - hence the movement of the fauna. We are seeing more snakes and monitors at the moment.

"one can also assume someone likes to exaggerate here and therethumbsup.gif or not know the difference between wild and abandoned cats"

No exaggeration on my part. Abandoned cats become feral if not adopted. Oxford dictionary - "feral - adj - wild; (of animal) escaped and living wild."

The cats (and dogs) that are heartlessly dumped up here by their previous owners quickly become feral/wild or they die.

sorry.gif Big C. I wandered off topic a bit. I cannot help you with the gun - but a good idea as far as I am concerned. Go for it smile.png

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Hello Big C.

If it's a real issue :

You can buy a sedative gel from the vets in Chaweng, opposite the post office - smear it on a chicken leg, and wait 20 minutes....

Samui animal rescue on laem din will maybe give you the gel for free / donation - also they will come and sedate / take away genuine nuisance animals, just for the calling.

Many large, non venimous snakes - if seen, would be caught and eaten by transient workers - boa / python meat is a great munch, apparently.

Unless you're rearing small livestock without a secure shelter and leaving them to run free at night, I wouldn't worry too much, Big C - you would never be able to get rid of all the feral creatures on Samui in this lifetime - you can bet your house is surrounded by them at night, when you're asleep - also when you're not. Many of these creatures are nocturnal.

Unlike humans - most wild creatures don't go looking to causing any agro just for the sake of it, and would rather slither / run away than have a problem with anyone, and are actually in general very timid - unless cornered / threatened. You would find you are surrounded by all manner of potentially dangerous creatures every day, living in the tropics, but they usually keep themselves to themselves.

Most snakes will do the off, if you just leave them alone and give them the chance to, or let them know you're near them - stamp your foot on the ground and watch (from a distance). I've seen off many snakes here over the Years with just the bat of a broom. The bigger ones I would leave alone to leave themselves - if they know you're there, and not directly threatening - they will go, believe me.. I've found whenever I have an area infested with mice, usually it attracts the snakes more - I believe they can 'see' and are drawn to their scent / urine trails - reads like a menu.

Good luck.

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Good advice from Ackybang re the snakes. That's exactly what I tell my guests.

The guy clearing the land by me, trapped the python and got his mates to come and take it away. Python stew for everyone that night. licklips.gif

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Good advice, Ackybang. AFAIK there's really just one dangerous snake in Thailand that wouldn't prefer clearing off if it sensed you approaching - the Malayan pit viper. Even it doesn't target humans - it just prefers to lie still no matter what happens, and might strike if you happen to come too close.

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Hello Big C.

If it's a real issue :

You can buy a sedative gel from the vets in Chaweng, opposite the post office - smear it on a chicken leg, and wait 20 minutes....

Samui animal rescue on laem din will maybe give you the gel for free / donation - also they will come and sedate / take away genuine nuisance animals, just for the calling.

Many large, non venimous snakes - if seen, would be caught and eaten by transient workers - boa / python meat is a great munch, apparently.

Unless you're rearing small livestock without a secure shelter and leaving them to run free at night, I wouldn't worry too much, Big C - you would never be able to get rid of all the feral creatures on Samui in this lifetime - you can bet your house is surrounded by them at night, when you're asleep - also when you're not. Many of these creatures are nocturnal.

Unlike humans - most wild creatures don't go looking to causing any agro just for the sake of it, and would rather slither / run away than have a problem with anyone, and are actually in general very timid - unless cornered / threatened. You would find you are surrounded by all manner of potentially dangerous creatures every day, living in the tropics, but they usually keep themselves to themselves.

Most snakes will do the off, if you just leave them alone and give them the chance to, or let them know you're near them - stamp your foot on the ground and watch (from a distance). I've seen off many snakes here over the Years with just the bat of a broom. The bigger ones I would leave alone to leave themselves - if they know you're there, and not directly threatening - they will go, believe me.. I've found whenever I have an area infested with mice, usually it attracts the snakes more - I believe they can 'see' and are drawn to their scent / urine trails - reads like a menu.

Good luck.

thanks i do not agree with killing snakes either unless for food or for saftey reasons i prefer to catch them then let them go in the middle of nwhere where they can be free with nature away from humans but i have customers in my resort and i cannot have wild cats,dogs or snakes.

so for gos snake please thanks for your help. i shall try chaweng and move them into a safe place. thanks for advise. infact all wild dogs could be moves with this method would save them from being poisoned, run over, hit with a cattle rod.

i know it is easier aid than done so i shall stand down on that issue.

personally i reckon that all dogs that are let out on the street with the owner not around should have their dog impounded and the owner have to pay a fine to get it back or it gets sold to someone else.

i have been chased by golden labradors which cannot be street dogs though i can normally deal with them. i front them and offer them a fight and they back off as dogs like to attack from side on. though it is a bit annoying. ( stupid bloody owners ). Maybe the tessabaan could offer somme land for dog walking only.

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Just visit any Vet and buy some sleeping tablets, Put it into a sausage or a some meat. Once asleep can move it. Like doing double the good deed smile.png

Also remember many soi dogs are very friendly and you may not even need to drug them to fall asleep and will be happy to come with you, as long as you give some food.

PS. Not sure where you live, but i have never seen a wild cat and also never seen a python on the streets that is

problem with cats sleeping is that if they eat the bait when i am asleep then they have time to sleep and wake up before i even have a chance to check the bait plus they can be everywhere.

as for Pythons. beleive me they are out there. they are non venmois but they can be more than 4 meters long and sufficate a small child, and more but most adults would not got clost to one where are a buffalow or a car and chickens can. unless a human was sleeping nect to one. they norally eat oncve every few months. nice snakes but my farourate are the kin conbras. they are cool as xxxx. dangerous venomous but with children running around everywhere i have to put them first

Dont't know about cats eaten by Pythons, but twice already I saw small Thai cats chasing (small, maybe 1m long) king cobras through and out of my garden, so don't underestimate them, they might be useful. thumbsup.gif

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Amazing people come to a tropical island knowing about the indigenous species around them then want to wipe them out or remove shall we say, next it will be rats are the problems because all there predators have been removed.

Go to the hospitals and ask how many venomous snake bites they have treated and how many babies have been eaten by pythons, that will maybe put your mind at rest.

i dont want to get ride of speices i just dont want them in my land as i have customers which pay me money which i use to feed my family.

I dont think my customer would be happy with me attravting pythons and all though there has not been many deaths of snake bites. there have been untold dogs been biten and cats eaten plus chickens. some people have these as pets. Most snakes are not really a problem for humans as unless they try to attack the snake then the snake shall be on its guard ready to defend itself but dogs and cats shall fight them. it is in their nature.

I dont care if people think i am bad or not i just do not want anything un invited on my land. no dogs cats snakes monkeys or people. i was changing a car tyre the other day and as i lay down i was about 1 inch away from some ones,s dog shit. even though i do not have dogs.

so now i have zero toerance for other peoples dogs on my land. either walk your dogs on a lesh or dont walk past.

the dogs that regualary shit on my land are from next door and there gate is always open and the owners piss me off

i know the concept is quite funny me lying in dog shit but i get that in my eyes then i am blind.

so next time the catapult comes out

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