raro Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Thaksin supporters rally at Nation head office<snip> Most of protesters were taxi motorcyclists. They arrived in a bus at about 4 pm. Source: The Nation - Breaking News - 21 Mar 2006 is toxin running out of cash or why doesn't he hire any higher profile supporters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulmercke Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 (edited) Yesterday The Nation carried the story of the unpublicised decision by the 19-member Privy Council on March 8 to no longer task Thaksin with the chairmanship of the organising committee to commerorate His Majesty The King's 60th. year on the throne. Their story was from a source. And for them to carry a story of such importance and consequence on their front page - emblazoned across the page - and, in particular, relating to events connected with His Majesty The King then they would most certainly have been pretty sure of their source. The source would have had to have been a reliable source of information that they obviously trusted implicitly. Why else would they have taken an unnecessary chance on this story? I still believe the initial story was reported in good faith and was, indeed, correct. However, Thaksin and the government were insensed by this leak yesterday, and heavy political pressure was levered against certain members of the council yesterday in order to get them to retract their original decision. Also, there's no smoke without fire! There most certainly is some truth in the original story. Afterall, they had only come to a verbal agreement and nothing had been formally set-down. Thaksin IMHO is still totally unfit to over-see these royal commerations. Better he sticks to bad-mouthing his opponents up in the sticks! Thaksin.....awk pai..... Edited March 21, 2006 by bulmercke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulmercke Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Thaksin supporters rally at Nation head officeSome 100 pro-government people rallied at Nation Multimedia Group compound Tuesday afternoon to protest what they called distorted reports by publications under group. They carried a black wreath and called on the group to publish reports with accuracy especially when covering protests against the government. Most of protesters were taxi motorcyclists. They arrived in a bus at about 4 pm. Source: The Nation - Breaking News - 21 Mar 2006 "Most of (the) protesters were taxi motorcyclists." Nothing personally against taxi motorcyclists.....but then again, the ones this story refers to would most probably constitute my definition of a what a real "mob" is comprised of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heng Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Why else would they have taken an unnecessary chance on this story? Perhaps because while Suthichai Yoon is an admirable businessperson, he also has one of the worst cases of sour grapes in local business history for getting his tv show (or perhaps it was the entire channel) scrapped by those in power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camelot Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Not to mention having acid poured over both his cars and his banking and other accounts investigated by Amlo, along with those of his brother and other Nation editors. That order was blamed on Mr T. The Nation lost its objectivity months ago. Now it seems to be losing touch with reality. Sad, really. They are starting to lose key foreign staff who want to get out of the propaganda business and back into mainstream journalism. Fanatical single-issue vendettas do not make for good newspapers and cause them to lose credibility (as well as advertising). We've found that much out in the West. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandstone Art Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 'Better Grade' PAID demostrators? I do not think they can assemble 100 well educated Thais that read the English language News to be just paid 200 baht to demostrate at the Nation's compound 20,000 baht each ? MAYBE. UP to YOU Mr T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plus Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 And where is this main-stream journalism free from propaganda? Modernine TV? TNA news? Bangkok Post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camelot Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Alas, no longer in Thailand. Two I know are heading back overseas. Others have compromised and gone to niche publications such as lifestyle and jewellery trade magazines and a few are supplementing their income by working as stringers for foreign publications and hoping to become a full-time foreign correspondent. I know one who has just reached that exalted status. Thailand seems to be losing its appeal for career-minded, responsible journalists which, though not surprising, is still a great shame. Staff turnover at both major English-language papers is abnormally high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 now nothing on nation, my wife still thinks the original story is right. Noone says yes or now beside the PM, so what is true and how approved? Yesterday The Nation carried the story of the unpublicised decision by the 19-member Privy Council on March 8 to no longer task Thaksin with the chairmanship of the organising committee to commerorate His Majesty The King's 60th. year on the throne.Their story was from a source. And for them to carry a story of such importance and consequence on their front page - emblazoned across the page - and, in particular, relating to events connected with His Majesty The King then they would most certainly have been pretty sure of their source. The source would have had to have been a reliable source of information that they obviously trusted implicitly. Why else would they have taken an unnecessary chance on this story? I still believe the initial story was reported in good faith and was, indeed, correct. However, Thaksin and the government were insensed by this leak yesterday, and heavy political pressure was levered against certain members of the council yesterday in order to get them to retract their original decision. Also, there's no smoke without fire! There most certainly is some truth in the original story. Afterall, they had only come to a verbal agreement and nothing had been formally set-down. Thaksin IMHO is still totally unfit to over-see these royal commerations. Better he sticks to bad-mouthing his opponents up in the sticks! Thaksin.....awk pai..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulmercke Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 (edited) Not to mention having acid poured over both his cars and his banking and other accounts investigated by Amlo, along with those of his brother and other Nation editors. That order was blamed on Mr T.The Nation lost its objectivity months ago. Now it seems to be losing touch with reality. Sad, really. They are starting to lose key foreign staff who want to get out of the propaganda business and back into mainstream journalism. Fanatical single-issue vendettas do not make for good newspapers and cause them to lose credibility (as well as advertising). We've found that much out in the West Camelot - Who are you working for? Thai Lak Thai? The Nation should be loudly applauded for standing up for democratic principles - even if this rankles your rather sensitive nerve endings. You may-or-may not be correct in your assessment of the paper's ability to hold and retain it's editorial staff, but as far as I'm concerned - The Nation is a champion in upholding democratic values it truly considers sacrosanct and dear to it's heart. The Nation has a sense of fair play......and is obviously insensed by Thaksin's immorality. In short, this authoritarian and despotic Thaksin regime - which is a very close friend to endemic corruption and just about every other conceivable vice you could think of - should now be up against another 'thousand other media outlets' with a like minded temerity and courage to expose on an everyday basis the rotteness of this Thaksin administration. But it isn't. Such is the grip and omnipresence of Thaksin's money, power and influence nowadays! And you refer to The Nation's stance in these terms: "Fanatical single-issue vendettas do not make for good newspapers and cause them to lose credibility." I'm of the opinion that there's a revolution now shaping in Thailand - and the political divide by the week is becoming more and more critical - The Nation to their credit have shown clearly which side of the fence they're on - and I'm firmly of the view that they're doing the right thing and I wholly support them in this struggle to over-throw Thaksin and everything rotten he stands for. Thaksin.....awk pai...... Thaksin.....awk pai...... Thaksin.....awk pai...... Edited March 21, 2006 by bulmercke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britmaveric Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 (edited) Nation is one big editorial, I'm afraid. Definitely not presenting news these days. Never wise for a supposed news agency to become part of the news, bias creates lack of credibility. Edited March 21, 2006 by britmaveric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 hmmmm Well actually other than in editorials .. a free "respnsible" press should be dispassioned and not "incensed" That being said. The Nation gives full coverage to both sides of the issues at hand. Yes their editorials are biased... but then again .. editorials are not news ... so no big deal! I frankly agree that any portion of the media that isn't speaking out against the abuses of Thaksin (At least the abuses against the free press) are more interested in advertising than they are in freedom of the press or democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seonai Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Go Bulmercke.... you are about the only person who totally makes sense here. Please keep posting. I am only someone who has lived here for a long time.... but I am passionate about what is happening to this country. Thanks for your passion. Seonai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penzman Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 now nothing on nation, my wife still thinks the original story is right.Noone says yes or now beside the PM, so what is true and how approved? Yesterday The Nation carried the story of the unpublicised decision by the 19-member Privy Council on March 8 to no longer task Thaksin with the chairmanship of the organising committee to commerorate His Majesty The King's 60th. year on the throne. Their story was from a source. And for them to carry a story of such importance and consequence on their front page - emblazoned across the page - and, in particular, relating to events connected with His Majesty The King then they would most certainly have been pretty sure of their source. The source would have had to have been a reliable source of information that they obviously trusted implicitly. Why else would they have taken an unnecessary chance on this story? I still believe the initial story was reported in good faith and was, indeed, correct. However, Thaksin and the government were insensed by this leak yesterday, and heavy political pressure was levered against certain members of the council yesterday in order to get them to retract their original decision. Also, there's no smoke without fire! There most certainly is some truth in the original story. Afterall, they had only come to a verbal agreement and nothing had been formally set-down. Thaksin IMHO is still totally unfit to over-see these royal commerations. Better he sticks to bad-mouthing his opponents up in the sticks! Thaksin.....awk pai..... When Thaksin or TRT deny, it's usually true. I repeat that he is absolutely not "politically fit" to be a prominent face in these events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Update: Govt asks press council to probe 'Nation' report Editor says facts properly checked; 'Naew Na' motorcycle taxi story also investigated BANGKOK: -- The government yesterday lodged a protest with The Nation and asked the Press Council of Thailand to investigate the paper's ethical conduct following Monday's report that Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra would no longer be in charge of organising the commemoration of His Majesty the King's 60th year on the throne. In a letter submitted to editor Tulsathit Taptim, Government Spokesman Surapong Suebwonglee deplored the report and said the government had been informed Thaksin would remain the chief organiser of the event. "I, therefore, urge you to express responsibility for this issue," the spokesman said. In a statement sent to other newspapers on Monday, Tulsathit said the editorial department cross-checked the information with several sources before publishing the report. He said the paper was ready to defend its decision to publish following Surapong's vow to raise the issue with the press council. The council received Surapong's complaint yesterday and pledged to look into the matter. "We thank all parties who consider us a mechanism to ensure good journalistic standards and hope to receive good cooperation from the two newspapers," the council said in a statement, referring to both the complaint against The Nation and a letter sent to the council from representatives of taxi motorcyclists upset with Naew Na's report that they were "hired" to join a pro-Thaksin rally. Chawarong Limpatthamapani, secretary-general of the Press Council of Thailand, said the council would urgently look into the conduct of Naew Na and The Nation. Taxi motorcyclists on Monday filed a libel suit with the Criminal Court against Naew Na, which published a report saying the drivers had been paid to attend the pro-Thaksin rally on March 3. Surapong said yesterday he was fairly satisfied that The Nation gave equal weight to denials of its report by Government House and the Office of His Majesty's Privy Council. However, in an interview, Thaksin also challenged The Nation to reveal the sources for its story. On Monday, The Nation reported that an unpublicised decision had been made on March 8 by the 19-member Privy Council that its president, General Prem Tinsulanonda, would replace Thaksin as the organising committee's chairman because of the current political uncertainties. Inchan Buraphan, secretary-general of the Office of His Majesty's Privy Council, told The Nation on Monday the report was "absolutely not true". He also expressed concern that such a report could be misinterpreted as evidence of a political conflict. --The Nation 2006-03-22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulmercke Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 (edited) Silom Road Yesterday This Saturday's BIG BIG rally and march is at 2.00 pm. Commencing at The Royal Plaza - Governemnt House protest area. The million man march comes to Bangkok? Edited March 22, 2006 by bulmercke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asd Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 (edited) Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday dear Suchinda, Happy birthday to you. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_May ---------------------------------------------- From old friends and true, From good friends and new, May good luck go with you, And happiness too. http://www.angkor.com/2bangkok/2bangkok/bl...lackmay01.shtml Edited March 22, 2006 by asd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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