RubbaJohnny Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Excuse my ignorance,any help welcome. I have Windows 7 ultimate edition It is working fine Occasionally reminds me install important updates. I do this and it acknowledges its done after a re-strat Lately seem to be getting reminders for the self same updates again? Any advice please. My friend who is even more computer illiterate warned not to turn the pdates off I have been selecting only what the Windows service says are important updaes Here are the current ones which were installed yesterday,here I have pasted the repeat reimnder ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 on XP, Server 2003, Vista, Windows 7, Server 2008 x86 (KB2604121)Download size: 22.9 MBYou may need to restart your computer for this update to take effect.Update type: ImportantA security issue has been identified that could allow an unauthenticated remote attacker to compromise your system and gain control over it. You can help protect your system by installing this update from Microsoft. After you install this update, you may have to restart your system.More information:http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=226972Help and Support:http://support.microsoft.comSecurity Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 on XP, Server 2003, Vista, Windows 7, Server 2008 x86 (KB2656351)Download size: 5.4 MBYou may need to restart your computer for this update to take effect.Update type: ImportantA security issue has been identified that could allow an unauthenticated remote attacker to compromise your system and gain control over it. You can help protect your system by installing this update from Microsoft. After you install this update, you may have to restart your system.More information:http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=237373Help and Support:http://support.microsoft.comSecurity Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 on XP, Server 2003, Vista, Windows 7, Server 2008 x86 (KB2729449)Download size: 13.5 MBYou may need to restart your computer for this update to take effect.Update type: ImportantA security issue has been identified that could allow an unauthenticated remote attacker to compromise your system and gain control over it. You can help protect your system by installing this update from Microsoft. After you install this update, you may have to restart your system.More information:http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=248030Help and Support:http://support.microsoft.comSecurity Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 on XP, Server 2003, Vista, Windows 7, Server 2008 x86 (KB2736428)Download size: 2.1 MBYou may need to restart your computer for this update to take effect.Update type: ImportantA security issue has been identified that could allow an unauthenticated remote attacker to cause the affected application to stop responding. You can help protect your system by installing this update from Microsoft. After you install this update, you may have to restart your system.More information:http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=262695Help and Support:http://support.microsoft.comSecurity Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 on XP, Server 2003, Vista, Windows 7, Server 2008 x86 (KB2737019)Download size: 10.8 MBYou may need to restart your computer for this update to take effect.Update type: ImportantA security issue has been identified that could allow an unauthenticated remote attacker to compromise your system and gain control over it. You can help protect your system by installing this update from Microsoft. After you install this update, you may have to restart your system.More information:http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=262860Help and Support:http://support.microsoft.comSecurity Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 on XP, Server 2003, Vista, Windows 7, Server 2008 x86 (KB2742595)Download size: 11.2 MBYou may need to restart your computer for this update to take effect.Update type: ImportantA security issue has been identified that could allow an unauthenticated remote attacker to compromise your system and gain control over it. You can help protect your system by installing this update from Microsoft. After you install this update, you may have to restart your system.More information:http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=261905Help and Support:http://support.microsoft.comSecurity Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 on XP, Server 2003, Vista, Windows 7, Server 2008 x86 (KB2789642)Download size: 4.2 MBYou may need to restart your computer for this update to take effect.Update type: ImportantA security issue has been identified that could allow an unauthenticated remote attacker to compromise your system and gain control over it. You can help protect your system by installing this update from Microsoft. After you install this update, you may have to restart your system.More information:http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=273905Help and Support:http://support.microsoft.comSecurity Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 on XP, Server 2003, Vista, Windows 7, Server 2008 x86 (KB2804576)Download size: 1.6 MBYou may need to restart your computer for this update to take effect.Update type: ImportantA security issue has been identified that could allow an attacker to misrepresent a system action or behavior without the knowledge of the user. You can help protect your system by installing this update from Microsoft. After you install this update, you may have to restart your system.More information:http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=279576Help and Support:http://support.microsoft.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsetBkk Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 "Patch Tuesday" is the second Tuesday of each month, on which Microsoft regularly releases security patches. Many websites recommend NOT turning on automatic updates for fear of another "Black Tuesday" which has occurred in the past and resulted in computers simply not booting after a patch had been applied. If you want to be a pioneer - and get the arrows in your back - then allow MS to update your PC immediately. If you want to play safe, wait a week or two for the other pioneers to report problems and for MS to re-issue the bad patch. Here's an example: http://www.infoworld.com/t/microsoft-windows/microsoft-re-issues-botched-black-tuesday-patch-209684 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Sometimes the whole Windows Update/BITS setup gets completely screwed and it's a pain in the arse to fix. When I absolutely can't wipe and restart, as a temporary solution I just google "Windows x x64 update download kbnnnnnnn" and go to the direct link for the updates, then install them manually. Not something you want to do every month, but as a temporary solution it works. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB1950 Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 (edited) I also use Windows 7 Ultimate and Microsoft .Net Framework and had a similar problem during an update cycle at the end of last year. The problem came about due a rollup of updates of .NET Framework. I downloaded Microsoft's NetMicrosoft .NET Framework Repair Tool to repair the .NET Framework installation. I never had any problems since. You might give it a try. If it doesn't work try uninstalling all the .Net Framework installations and then reinstall .NET Framework. It should be available in the optional updates of Windows Update. Edited May 17, 2013 by BB1950 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubbaJohnny Posted May 18, 2013 Author Share Posted May 18, 2013 Thank you Is it safe to uninstall .Net Framework if it will not reinstall will my computer and net access still function? I can take the computer to ou local computer geek but he does not speak English and it is dificult to explain the problem I did try the download recommended but it wont run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Boy, the Windows and Office updates/patches that download this Wednesday/15May had at least one update file that took my laptop a while to apply. The wife and I decided to go out for a lunch, when turning off my laptop it said updates have been downloaded and are ready to apply, I gave my usual "sure, go ahead" response, Windows started the update process. When we got back from lunch about one hour later my computer was still processing 6 of 12, I watched it for about 10 minutes and it was still processing 6 ot 12 with very, very little disk activity, I'm thinking my computer had locked itself up in attempting the updates but regardless of very little disk activity the display indicated the update was still proceeding. But I had never experienced an update that took over an hour...and it still wasn't done updating. About 5 minute later I was literally within seconds of pushing the power off button to let it revert to restore point and try the updates again, but then 6 of 12 completed and 7 thru 12 went fast and completed in around 5 minutes. Later I went to my Windows Update menu to see what updates had been installed and actually those 12 updates had actually applied 58 separate updates, only 8 of them were specifically Win7 operating system related and the remaining 50 were updates for my MS Office Enterprise programs (Word, Excel, Powerpoint, etc) and for MS Net Framework 4. I've had updates before that took almost 30 minutes, but this latest update was probably the longest ever. When the updates were done, the computer worked fine as normal....but that 6 of 12 file patch had me worrying for a while as I really didn't want to interrupt the Windows update process (like they tell you not to do), but this update install was taking ssssoooooooooooooooo long even with the update downloaded before the install began. But how many updates a person gets and how long the install takes depends greatly on what Microsoft programs a person has loaded on their computer...for someone not using Word, Excel, etc., they would have got fewer update files and therefore the updates would have installed faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubbaJohnny Posted May 18, 2013 Author Share Posted May 18, 2013 (edited) Is there a better system I have read that Linux is better Can I download it and will local Thai computer shops be able to maintain it ? I finally got download for Net Framework toll ran it no difference. The same reminder Downloaded updates 8 as in OP Restarted 2 minutes later reminder back again for same updates ! Same 43 optional and 8 important ones offered. Should I keep downloading them again and again or ignore? Edited May 18, 2013 by RubbaJohnny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB1950 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 (edited) Thank you Is it safe to uninstall .Net Framework if it will not reinstall will my computer and net access still function? I can take the computer to ou local computer geek but he does not speak English and it is dificult to explain the problem I did try the download recommended but it wont run First of all , .NET Framework doesn't affect network access! The name is kind of a misnomer. From:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.NET_Framework The .NET Framework (pronounced dot net) is a software framework developed by Microsoft that runs primarily on Microsoft Windows. It includes a large library and provides language interoperability (each language can use code written in other languages) across several programming languages. Programs written for the .NET Framework execute in a software environment (as contrasted to hardware environment), known as the Common Language Runtime (CLR), an application virtual machine that provides services such as security, memory management, and exception handling. It can be safely removed. Since the Microsoft tool wouldn't run, try this tool: http://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/Uninstallers/NET-Framework-Cleanup-Tool.shtml If that doesn't work then read this: http://singularlabs.com/kb/how-to-repair-the-microsoft-net-framework/ Once you get .NET Framework removed, Then install Microsoft .NET Framework 4.5. Do Windows updates until you don't get anymore updates. Good luck! Edited May 18, 2013 by BB1950 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubbaJohnny Posted May 18, 2013 Author Share Posted May 18, 2013 Many thanks BB1950 I will try your advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeniau96 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Much as I love Linux just on basis of your apparent computer savvy I cannot recommend it for you. I can recommend that you look to Woody Leonhard, a well known WIndows expert for the safe-to-update advice. He publishes an ongoing "Defcon" status about when it is safe to install those updates. Check it out: http://www.askwoody.com/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 How do I reset Windows Update components? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971058 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubbaJohnny Posted May 19, 2013 Author Share Posted May 19, 2013 (edited) Thanks guys still no solution same 7 updates installed and then recommended repeatedly I did Chicog's Windos download and it say fixed but its not. Is it ok to ignore these updates or does that leave my security vulnerable? Edited May 19, 2013 by RubbaJohnny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJCM Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Can you check in Control Panel - Windows Update - View Update History with the status of those Installed Updates is ? If you have status is failed, double click the update in question and check the Error Number 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB1950 Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 (edited) Thanks guys still no solution same 7 updates installed and then recommended repeatedly I did Chicog's Windos download and it say fixed but its not. Is it ok to ignore these updates or does that leave my security vulnerable? No, it's not OK to ignore the updates. There is a possibility of a security vulnerablility. Since the previous attempts have failed, you might try this Microsoft Fix-It: Windows Update or Microsoft Update repeatedly offers the same update There may be a problem with Windows Update or Windows Defender. By any chance are you using Samsung KIES? I'm trying to figure out what you are running that's using .NET Framework. There are others who do, who have the same problem with the same updates. Edited May 19, 2013 by BB1950 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Thanks guys still no solution same 7 updates installed and then recommended repeatedly I did Chicog's Windos download and it say fixed but its not. Is it ok to ignore these updates or does that leave my security vulnerable? It leaves you vulnerable, but ideally you want to fix the problem permanently. Did you try the Net Framework "completely remove/reinstall" method? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryUK Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 I work with computers and deploy many every day, I've seen this happen often. Some good advice given, but if you've not tried yet, just install them one at a time. It'll take a long time and a load of reboots, but I've seen it where they keep failing as a bunch and undoing the changes, but one at a time has worked for me. Can't hurt if nothing else has worked yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dork Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 This has worked for me in the past. It will force Windows Update to start again from the last successfully installed patch. Start>Run type cmd and press enter type net stop wuauserv and press enter type rename c:\windows\SoftwareDistribution softwaredistribution.oldand press enter type net start wuauserv and press enter type exit and press enter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubbaJohnny Posted May 20, 2013 Author Share Posted May 20, 2013 I do have Samsung Kies is this the conflict perhaps? I could unistall it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubbaJohnny Posted May 20, 2013 Author Share Posted May 20, 2013 (edited) Thanks guys still no solution same 7 updates installed and then recommended repeatedly I did Chicog's Windos download and it say fixed but its not. Is it ok to ignore these updates or does that leave my security vulnerable? It leaves you vulnerable, but ideally you want to fix the problem permanently. Did you try the Net Framework "completely remove/reinstall" method? Noted so I better keep doing WU Yes no difference so far,but thanks to you and everyone for taking the time and trouble to assist.I am sure there will be a solution somewhere . It is not so annoying as to wat to reinstall etire system but does seem to require a few minutes daily and I guess while these updates keep reloading it is slowing down my already terribel connection here in the sticks. Edited May 20, 2013 by RubbaJohnny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB1950 Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 I do have Samsung Kies is this the conflict perhaps? I could unistall it ? It could be a contributing factor. You could remove it and reboot the computer. Then try the windows update. Don't reinstall KIES until this problem is resolved. If you still have a problem, we don't know where you exactly stand. Please go to Program and Features post a list of all the instances of the .NET Framework that are listed. The click "view installed updates" and post the list of all instances of the .NET Framework updates that are installed. There are still some remedies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubbaJohnny Posted May 20, 2013 Author Share Posted May 20, 2013 Ok I will try above and get back to you,Your help much appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubbaJohnny Posted May 20, 2013 Author Share Posted May 20, 2013 here are the recurring updates cut and paste exactly aas notified below ----------------------------------------------------- Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 on XP, Server 2003, Vista, Windows 7, Server 2008 x86 (KB2604121)Download size: 22.9 MBYou may need to restart your computer for this update to take effect.Update type: ImportantA security issue has been identified that could allow an unauthenticated remote attacker to compromise your system and gain control over it. You can help protect your system by installing this update from Microsoft. After you install this update, you may have to restart your system.More information:http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=226972Help and Support:http://support.microsoft.comSecurity Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 on XP, Server 2003, Vista, Windows 7, Server 2008 x86 (KB2656351)Download size: 5.4 MBYou may need to restart your computer for this update to take effect.Update type: ImportantA security issue has been identified that could allow an unauthenticated remote attacker to compromise your system and gain control over it. You can help protect your system by installing this update from Microsoft. After you install this update, you may have to restart your system.More information:http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=237373Help and Support:http://support.microsoft.comSecurity Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 on XP, Server 2003, Vista, Windows 7, Server 2008 x86 (KB2729449)Download size: 13.5 MBYou may need to restart your computer for this update to take effect.Update type: ImportantA security issue has been identified that could allow an unauthenticated remote attacker to compromise your system and gain control over it. You can help protect your system by installing this update from Microsoft. After you install this update, you may have to restart your system.More information:http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=248030Help and Support:http://support.microsoft.comSecurity Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 on XP, Server 2003, Vista, Windows 7, Server 2008 x86 (KB2737019)Download size: 10.8 MBYou may need to restart your computer for this update to take effect.Update type: ImportantA security issue has been identified that could allow an unauthenticated remote attacker to compromise your system and gain control over it. You can help protect your system by installing this update from Microsoft. After you install this update, you may have to restart your system.More information:http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=262860Help and Support:http://support.microsoft.comSecurity Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 on XP, Server 2003, Vista, Windows 7, Server 2008 x86 (KB2742595)Download size: 11.2 MBYou may need to restart your computer for this update to take effect.Update type: ImportantA security issue has been identified that could allow an unauthenticated remote attacker to compromise your system and gain control over it. You can help protect your system by installing this update from Microsoft. After you install this update, you may have to restart your system.More information:http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=261905Help and Support:http://support.microsoft.comSecurity Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 on XP, Server 2003, Vista, Windows 7, Server 2008 x86 (KB2789642)Download size: 4.2 MBYou may need to restart your computer for this update to take effect.Update type: ImportantA security issue has been identified that could allow an unauthenticated remote attacker to compromise your system and gain control over it. You can help protect your system by installing this update from Microsoft. After you install this update, you may have to restart your system.More information:http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=273905Help and Support:http://support.microsoft.comSecurity Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 on XP, Server 2003, Vista, Windows 7, Server 2008 x86 (KB2804576)Download size: 1.6 MBYou may need to restart your computer for this update to take effect.Update type: ImportantA security issue has been identified that could allow an attacker to misrepresent a system action or behavior without the knowledge of the user. You can help protect your system by installing this update from Microsoft. After you install this update, you may have to restart your system.More information:http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=279576Help and Support:http://support.microsoft.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB1950 Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Okay, these are the repeating updates: Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 on XP, Server 2003, Vista, Windows 7, Server 2008 x86 (KB2604121)Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 on XP, Server 2003, Vista, Windows 7, Server 2008 x86 (KB2656351)Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 on XP, Server 2003, Vista, Windows 7, Server 2008 x86 (KB2729449)Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 on XP, Server 2003, Vista, Windows 7, Server 2008 x86 (KB2737019)Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 on XP, Server 2003, Vista, Windows 7, Server 2008 x86 (KB2742595)Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 on XP, Server 2003, Vista, Windows 7, Server 2008 x86 (KB2789642)Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 on XP, Server 2003, Vista, Windows 7, Server 2008 x86 (KB2804576) I got that. What I really need to know is, what's installed. I repeat: Please go to Program and Features post a list of all the instances of the .NET Framework that are listed as being installed.Has Samsung KIES been uninstalled? It shouldn't appear in the in the list of installed programs.Then click "view installed updates" (upper left corner of the Programs and Features) and post the list of all instances of the .NET Framework updates that are installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSure Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 (edited) I like the suggestions given. They are good and worth trying. If it was my computer I'd make a restore point. Then I'd install (free) CCleaner and use it to uninstall every instance you might have of .net. Then I'd reboot. Then I'd clean and backup the registry using CCleaner. Then I'd reboot. Then I'd do a windows update. You should get a fresh copy of the latest .net in the update. Then I'd set Windows update to download but not install updates. This is time saving if you don't have a real fast connection. I like getting notifications that updates are downloaded and ready to install. Then I can look, choose, and run the update. I have an uber-fast connection and I still like it. Why waste any time at all. If there's another same update to .net, don't check it to update. Good luck. Edited May 20, 2013 by NeverSure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubbaJohnny Posted May 21, 2013 Author Share Posted May 21, 2013 Well removing Kies seems to have worked Thanks everyone vey much for all the detailed advice Thse in C Rai are invited for a cocktail,those downriver I must just thank here online. Where would I get a safe clean copy of CC cleaner In the past friends have used c/net aka downloadcom also softonic and sourceforge Are these safe or is there a better place to look? I am never sure what is safe as always reading of the dangers of downloads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB1950 Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 http://filehippo.com/download_ccleaner/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Well removing Kies seems to have worked Thanks for the heads up. That's one to remember! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubbaJohnny Posted May 22, 2013 Author Share Posted May 22, 2013 Thanks everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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