Woolwich Attack: ' Soldier Beheaded' By Ranting Fanatics On Busy London Street

[sms747]

you dont see them going mad in america,,,why,,,because they wouldnt put up with this crap,,,,,,britain is a liberal pussy state,,,what about banning all religons,,problem solved,,i dont understand,if people hate the west why live there,,,we know the answer dont we,,,

You must have missed 9/11 and the boston bombings then

[Radar501]

One of the two terrorists was heard to say that he butchered the soldier because 'he has killed Muslim people in Muslim countries."

If he was so concerned about his fellow brethren, his efforts could have been more appropriately channelled by jumping on a flight to Afghanistan or Iraq and campaigning for the end of the mass slaughter of Muslims, by Muslims, in those two Muslim countries.

There are no winners in this deplorable event.

The soldier met a horrific death, and his family and friends will somehow have to deal with the memories.

The two thugs failed to commit suicide by police fire, and so, will be denied passage as martyrs to the Kingdom of Allah.

And, now the British taxpayers will have to meet the costs of their medical treatment and convalescence, their legal defence, and a soft bed, three square meals a day, and all the other little luxuries that the Governor of the UK Prisons is obliged to provide them with.

Further, they will be in a position to fill the empty heads of other inmates and nurture them with their religious hatred.

Disgusting.

Edited May 24, 2013 by Radar501

[chooka]

One of the two terrorists was heard to say that he butchered the soldier because 'he has killed Muslim people in Muslim countries."

If he was so concerned about his fellow brethren, his efforts could have been more appropriately channelled by jumping on a flight to Afghanistan or Iraq and campaigning for the end of the mass slaughter of Muslims, by Muslims, in those two Muslim countries.

There are no winners in this deplorable event.

The soldier met a horrific death, and his family and friends will somehow have to deal with the memories.

The two thugs failed to commit suicide by police fire, and so, will be denied passage as martyrs to the Kingdom of Allah.

And, now the British taxpayers will have to meet the costs of their medical treatment and convalescence, their legal defence, and a soft bed, three square meals a day, and all the other little luxuries that the Governor of the UK Prisons is obliged to provide them with.

Further, they will be in a position to fill the empty heads of other inmates and nurture them with their religious hatred.

Disgusting.

and they won't find to many virgins in prison either.

[Mosha]

One of the two terrorists was heard to say that he butchered the soldier because 'he has killed Muslim people in Muslim countries."

If he was so concerned about his fellow brethren, his efforts could have been more appropriately channelled by jumping on a flight to Afghanistan or Iraq and campaigning for the end of the mass slaughter of Muslims, by Muslims, in those two Muslim countries.

There are no winners in this deplorable event.

The soldier met a horrific death, and his family and friends will somehow have to deal with the memories.

The two thugs failed to commit suicide by police fire, and so, will be denied passage as martyrs to the Kingdom of Allah.

And, now the British taxpayers will have to meet the costs of their medical treatment and convalescence, their legal defence, and a soft bed, three square meals a day, and all the other little luxuries that the Governor of the UK Prisons is obliged to provide them with.

Further, they will be in a position to fill the empty heads of other inmates and nurture them with their religious hatred.

Disgusting.

I remember after Boston, the BBC reporter said, those 2 would most likely spend the rest of their life in solitary confinement. That's what the UK should do with people carrying out these atrocities.

[whistleblower]

thaicbr said;

Bethdin courts ... no idea what you are talking about

The same as you have no idea about Sharia law in the UK!

Sharia law does not hold sway anywhere in the UK! It is used as a mediation court by those who wish to; it has absolutely no legal power!

To enlighten you: London Beth Din

Tell that to the victims of honour killings in the UK!

[whistleblower]

There is a considerable difference between a mass murderer who happens to have a Christian, Jewish, Buddhist or Hindu background killing people for various and sundry - often personal psychological reasons and a mass murderer or indiscriminate murderer who performs his heinous act in the name of his religion - yelling 'Allahu Akbar' all the while chopping the young soldier's head off with a meat cleaver. It is called MOTIVE ... and the motive for Islamic Jihadies is domination of the infidel and /or revenge for insults against Islam - done world-wide.

Except for the blind that refuse to see - there is a world-wide Islamic Jihadist Movement and has been for many decades - even before the slaughter of Israeli athletes by Arab commandos at the Munich Olympics in the 1970's. The motive was the same then and is the same now whether in England, Spain, India, Bali, Africa, Southern Thailand, or in Boston, USA. There is no comparison to any other religion of modernity - none. Islam has not evolved in 700 years or more ... And we are suppose to tolerate the brutal acts of people STUCK in the age of the Crusades. I think not.

Hear !! Hear !! jdgruen, but our politicians aren't listening!!

The problem is that their is a large portion of UK MP's that are muslim.

[Soutpeel]

Just ban all religions and be done with it. The people on here putting up one religion vs another makes me sick, what century do you live in? This was a barbaric act, any one that wants to follow on from it, from any religion, should be shot.

Banning religions is not realistic and could only be done by horrific totalitarian regimes. We've seen that. Bad idea.

Actually in the regimes you refer to, they never actually banned religions, they just replaced the the prevelant religions/faiths with their own form of "religion"

I read a very interesting book many years ago, cant remember the name,which compared faith/belief systems in the common organised religions and faith/belief systems in those totalitarian regimes you refer to and the similariaites between the two were astonishing...the basic premise of the book explored how someones instilled faith/beliefs could be manipulated by the leaders of those "religions" to get the followers of that particular "religion" to do thier bidding in the name of that "religion"

[thaibeachlovers]

If you invite these people to live in your country, you have to expect this kind of thing.

It has been suggested that the perps are Somalis (or alternatively Nigerians); that wouldn't be surprising, because almost 2% of the Somali nation now lives in the UK, with 70,000 of them in London alone. Parts of South London have been turned into a little Mogadishu, with Somali gangs and Nigerian gangs fighting with knives and guns over drug territories.

So the UK Government cannot wring its hands and say "How terrible" because it is the Government that has created the conditions which made this sickening incident inevitable. Nor would the Government be guiltless if some British version of Anders Breivik were to surface and start to take measures into his own hands.

Hear hear!

According to the BBC one at least is of Nigerian descent, though born in the UK.

Enoch Powell was supposed to have said "Rivers of blood" in relation to unrestricted immigration ( he didn't ). Were he alive, he would feel vindicated today.

[Mosha]

If you invite these people to live in your country, you have to expect this kind of thing.

It has been suggested that the perps are Somalis (or alternatively Nigerians); that wouldn't be surprising, because almost 2% of the Somali nation now lives in the UK, with 70,000 of them in London alone. Parts of South London have been turned into a little Mogadishu, with Somali gangs and Nigerian gangs fighting with knives and guns over drug territories.

So the UK Government cannot wring its hands and say "How terrible" because it is the Government that has created the conditions which made this sickening incident inevitable. Nor would the Government be guiltless if some British version of Anders Breivik were to surface and start to take measures into his own hands.

Hear hear!

According to the BBC one at least is of Nigerian descent, though born in the UK.

Enoch Powell was supposed to have said "Rivers of blood" in relation to unrestricted immigration ( he didn't ). Were he alive, he would feel vindicated today.

One of them was a devout christian who converted to radical islam

[thaibeachlovers]

thaicbr said;

Bethdin courts ... no idea what you are talking about

The same as you have no idea about Sharia law in the UK!

Sharia law does not hold sway anywhere in the UK! It is used as a mediation court by those who wish to; it has absolutely no legal power!

To enlighten you: London Beth Din

Tell that to the victims of honour killings in the UK!

I doubt that "honour killings" have any basis in sharia, though it does uphold many barbaric ( to our mind ) traditions.

[IAMSOBAD]

Post 273 by geriatrikid is the best post on TV this year.

It deserves more than a LIKE.

VERY TRUE AND STRONG POST!

[Ace of Pop]

I suppose they were both on Social Security Benefit and a Free House, you English are giving your Nation away.Thai Police would have shot them like Scum, now you will pay for Legal Defence for them,and a Feed them till thay die, in a Cosey Prison.

[thaibeachlovers]

you dont see them going mad in america,,,why,,,because they wouldnt put up with this crap,,,,,,britain is a liberal pussy state,,,what about banning all religons,,problem solved,,i dont understand,if people hate the west why live there,,,we know the answer dont we,,,

You must have missed 9/11 and the boston bombings then

And the Fort Hood shootings ( defined officially as "workplace violence ), so yes, they do put up with it.

[steve down under]

In my opinion the police should have shot those 2 bastards in the head thereby saving the cost of a trial and the cost of keeping them in prison for however may years at the taxpayers expense and also sit would stop them from spreading their vitriol any further .

RIP to the slain young man and condolences to his family friends and fellow squaddies !

And to the british Government Man up and sort out the nonsense that gives radical idiots more rights than the british people !

[thaibeachlovers]

The death penalty should be reinstated for barbaric acts of violence like this.

No, that would be too merciful. I'd put them in a prison wing with the National Front prisoners.

I hope they don't give them any pain relief in hospital.

[Goshawk]

Nick Griffin tells it like it is...

[simple1]

thaicbr said;

Bethdin courts ... no idea what you are talking about

The same as you have no idea about Sharia law in the UK!

Sharia law does not hold sway anywhere in the UK! It is used as a mediation court by those who wish to; it has absolutely no legal power!

To enlighten you: London Beth Din

Tell that to the victims of honour killings in the UK!

Honour killings are not supported in the Koran, nor Sharia Law. It's a cultural construct. Don't agree? Take a look at a quote by the spiritual leader of Hezbollah who has spoken out against the practice. I put more value by a statement from a radical Islamist organisation, than you.

"Grand Ayatollah Mohammed Hussein Fadlallah, the top Shiite cleric and spiritual leader of Hezbollah, issued a fatwa banning honour killing and describing it as “a repulsive act, condemned and prohibited by religion"

[simple1]

There is a considerable difference between a mass murderer who happens to have a Christian, Jewish, Buddhist or Hindu background killing people for various and sundry - often personal psychological reasons and a mass murderer or indiscriminate murderer who performs his heinous act in the name of his religion - yelling 'Allahu Akbar' all the while chopping the young soldier's head off with a meat cleaver. It is called MOTIVE ... and the motive for Islamic Jihadies is domination of the infidel and /or revenge for insults against Islam - done world-wide.

Except for the blind that refuse to see - there is a world-wide Islamic Jihadist Movement and has been for many decades - even before the slaughter of Israeli athletes by Arab commandos at the Munich Olympics in the 1970's. The motive was the same then and is the same now whether in England, Spain, India, Bali, Africa, Southern Thailand, or in Boston, USA. There is no comparison to any other religion of modernity - none. Islam has not evolved in 700 years or more ... And we are suppose to tolerate the brutal acts of people STUCK in the age of the Crusades. I think not.

Hear !! Hear !! jdgruen, but our politicians aren't listening!!

The problem is that their is a large portion of UK MP's that are muslim.

Stop being silly, their are 8 MP's of Muslim faith, whereas currently 650 in total. Subject to completion of the boundary review & legislation will be reduced to 600

[JDGRUEN]

you dont see them going mad in america,,,why,,,because they wouldnt put up with this crap,,,,,,britain is a liberal pussy state,,,what about banning all religons,,problem solved,,i dont understand,if people hate the west why live there,,,we know the answer dont we,,,

You must have missed 9/11 and the boston bombings then

And the Fort Hood shootings ( defined officially as "workplace violence ), so yes, they do put up with it.

obama and the Democrats put up with it - in fact they defined the incident ... not the American citizens

[Naam]

In my opinion the police should have shot those 2 bastards in the head thereby saving the cost of a trial and the cost of keeping them in prison for however may years at the taxpayers expense and also sit would stop them from spreading their vitriol any further .

RIP to the slain young man and condolences to his family friends and fellow squaddies !

And to the british Government Man up and sort out the nonsense that gives radical idiots more rights than the british people !

man up and get your reading glasses. the two assailants were shot by the police who did not wait for your opinion to make a decision.

[aechzen]

hahahahahaha cool

[JDGRUEN]

thaicbr said;

Bethdin courts ... no idea what you are talking about

The same as you have no idea about Sharia law in the UK!

Sharia law does not hold sway anywhere in the UK! It is used as a mediation court by those who wish to; it has absolutely no legal power!

To enlighten you: London Beth Din

Tell that to the victims of honour killings in the UK!

Honour killings are not supported in the Koran, nor Sharia Law. It's a cultural construct. Don't agree? Take a look at a quote by the spiritual leader of Hezbollah who has spoken out against the practice. I put more value by a statement from a radical Islamist organisation, than you.

"Grand Ayatollah Mohammed Hussein Fadlallah, the top Shiite cleric and spiritual leader of Hezbollah, issued a fatwa banning honour killing and describing it as “a repulsive act, condemned and prohibited by religion"

Honor Killings are part of the Muslim culture ... so slice and dice all you want -- but there are Two DEAD young women in Dallas, TX all because they had become Americanized and the father objected - so he killed them ... then ran away ... There are many stories like this in the U.S. each year.

[TexasRanger]

This guy wants to attack soldiers on behalf of "his people", but like the irish filth in the I.R.A he will do it in a cowardly way rather than put on a uniform and fight like a real warrior. Hitting the soldier with a car so he can't fight back. Real men who feel strongly enough to fight for a cause don a uniform and follow a code. The filth who did this are not even human in my eyes and as such should not be protected by human rights.

[terrythai]

In my opinion the police should have shot those 2 bastards in the head thereby saving the cost of a trial and the cost of keeping them in prison for however may years at the taxpayers expense and also sit would stop them from spreading their vitriol any further .

RIP to the slain young man and condolences to his family friends and fellow squaddies !

And to the british Government Man up and sort out the nonsense that gives radical idiots more rights than the british people !

man up and get your reading glasses. the two assailants were shot by the police who did not wait for your opinion to make a decision.

You get your reading glasses , he said they should have been shot in the head and killed.

Who wouldn't agree, other than a muslim.

[chooka]

Dramatic video shows London suspects charging police

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/2013/05/24/12/15/video-emerges-showing-london-suspects-charging-police

Edited May 24, 2013 by chooka

[SinglePot]

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The Muslim Council of Britain called the attack "a truly barbaric act that has no basis in Islam," the Press Association reported.

That's why the two murderers were shouting Allahu Akbar. It's strange how such violent acts have apparently no basis in Islam, yet this seems to be misunderstood worldwide on a daily basis. I wonder why no other religion seems to be so misunderstood.

The UK has left it too late. Enoch Powell warned about this back in the sixties. Who remembers his speech about "rivers of blood in our country"? There was one MP who knew what he was talking about.

Absolutely right. Political correctness always backfires. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction, water finds its own level...etc etc.

Liberal politics often (usually?) produces an unintended result.

People didn't like to hear what Enoch said. Especially those who were having guilt feelings over the British Empire's debt to the colonies.

As for the 2 murderers in Woolwich....counselling or cancelling seem like a couple of options.

[GentlemanJim]

In my opinion the police should have shot those 2 bastards in the head thereby saving the cost of a trial and the cost of keeping them in prison for however may years at the taxpayers expense and also sit would stop them from spreading their vitriol any further .

RIP to the slain young man and condolences to his family friends and fellow squaddies !

And to the british Government Man up and sort out the nonsense that gives radical idiots more rights than the british people !

man up and get your reading glasses. the two assailants were shot by the police who did not wait for your opinion to make a decision.

You get your reading glasses , he said they should have been shot in the head and killed.

Who wouldn't agree, other than a muslim.

Well I'm not a Muslim and I don't agree. Shooting 'not to kill' was the right thing. These lunatics WANTED the police to kill them, they were holding their one-way ticket to paradise and 72 Virgins and we said sorry....ticket invalid. We need to question these two, find out their entire network, their computers will already be in the hands of the police, every email they have sent along with every recipient of those mails. By not killing them we may have identified a hundred more like them. Now they can be made healthy and left to rot in a jail, with no way into their heaven!! After all taking your own life does not qualify you unless it's in an act of Jihad. They are frakked and won't see daylight again for a long long time and when they do, someone will be waiting for them to repay their act of atrocity.

Keeping them locked up and suffering is worth every penny of tax payers money. There is no point executing people who want to die, as then they die happy, it's the easy way out. Let them rot in jail and let the prison population take care of them, there will be more than enough members of BNP, EDL or ex squaddies in jail to make the next 50 years unbearable. These guys do not fear death, but everyone fears pain, prolonged, uncertain attacks. They will have a life time of it now, and when they die, nothing but dust like the rest, no paradise, no virgins, no beaming smiling God who like to rewards the worst examples of Humans. I just wish with Prisons for profit, we could sub contract their punishment out for permanent detention at Black Dolphin prison in Russia.

[ozziebloke]

The attackers were english born and one was actually raised christian

http://www.news.com.au/world-news/woolwich-attack-victim-named-as-drummer-lee-rigby-mi5-had-investigated-suspects/story-fndir2ev-1226649517295

[jimbeam1]

sadly islam is painted and tainted by the brush wielded by these type of fanatics...

Whilst I do agree with you. Surely now it is up to Islam to get it's house in order. The same goes for the British government? There will certainly be reprisals over this. Sadly more Innocent people will be harmed.

jb1

[uptheos]

In my opinion the police should have shot those 2 bastards in the head thereby saving the cost of a trial and the cost of keeping them in prison for however may years at the taxpayers expense and also sit would stop them from spreading their vitriol any further .

RIP to the slain young man and condolences to his family friends and fellow squaddies !

And to the british Government Man up and sort out the nonsense that gives radical idiots more rights than the british people !

man up and get your reading glasses. the two assailants were shot by the police who did not wait for your opinion to make a decision.

You get your reading glasses , he said they should have been shot in the head and killed.

Who wouldn't agree, other than a muslim.

Keeping them locked up and suffering is worth every penny of tax payers money.

Absolutely and oh for a Guantanemo bay to send them to. If I thought they would be locked up and suffer greatly for the rest of their lives, I'd gladly contribute towards it. Unfortunately, they will have a cushy life.......but hey, no virgins awaiting, just some big blokes in the shower!