German Gang Leader Escapes Interpol At Suvarnabhumi Airport

[Jim walker]

Have they looked in Pattaya Soi 6 yet?

[Andre0720]

Doesn't give me much confidence in general security at the Airport.

Well quite right.

One might reasonably expect general security at the airport to be a tad bit better than the general security in Thailand..

[BookMan]

Doesn't give me much confidence in general security at the Airport.

Well quite right.

One might reasonably expect general security at the airport to be a tad bit better than the general security in Thailand..

generally speaking, yes

[krisb]

Someone started How to escape Thailand? thread in the general section. Could be our man!

[KuhnPaen]

One of the biggest misconceptions people have about Interpol is that their agents actually make arrests. They are simply liasons to local authorities who make the bust. So, that being said, it seems as though the Thai police actually screwed up. Why does the headline infer that this was an Interpol screw up? They would track him to swampy and let the Thai authorities know he was stopping over. Placing blame elsewhere as ususal.

"Oh, Interpol give us bad information na."

[hullupullo]

I bet he has no problem in Thailand, sure he will find friends of his kind

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/tourist-stole-his-way-around-the-state/story-e6freoof-1226226832078

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/illegal-german-tourist-carlo-konstantin-kohl-24-admits-to-drug-trafficking-when-charged-over-property-offences/story-fndo2iwh-1226482640332

[foxteen]

Thai Police offering 10,000 baht to point where he is......

[sirchai]

Intelligence Not There Even Realizing Peoples' Obnoxious Lethargy= Interpol-

[sirchai]

Thai Police offering 10,000 baht to point where he is......

And a big bottle of Lao Khao....

[lemoncake]

Thai Police offering 10,000 baht to point where he is......

He is in Thailand, where do i claim my money?

[creekside]

Look at the cameras.

It's reported that CCTV has footage of him leaving through a fire exit in Concourse G, although normally that requires ID to transit and the exit is normally alarmed if it is opened without permission.

AOT is investigating how neither stopped him.

Edited May 27, 2013 by creekside

[ableguy]

can i go for a piss in private please.

Is there any other way ?????

[ableguy]

One of the biggest misconceptions people have about Interpol is that their agents actually make arrests. They are simply liasons to local authorities who make the bust. So, that being said, it seems as though the Thai police actually screwed up. Why does the headline infer that this was an Interpol screw up? They would track him to swampy and let the Thai authorities know he was stopping over. Placing blame elsewhere as ususal.

"Oh, Interpol give us bad information na."

I read it was Australian police who were escorting him ( in the paper we dont talk about )

[lemoncake]

can i go for a piss in private please.

Is there any other way ?????

curiosity or planning for the future?

Edited May 27, 2013 by lemoncake

[RickBradford]

He'd never have got away if he'd accidentally pouched a pack of smokes from King Power.

He'd have been arrested and had his bank account drained at the nearest ATM already.

[jpduggan]

And not one picture of him anywhere,in case we might recognise him as the guy sitting next to us in the restaurant or maybe the go go on Walking Street. Great police work and did this actually happen last week?

[creekside]

Does this guy have a name? How about posting a photo of him? I'd keep my eyes open here in Pattaya if I knew what he looked like... All seems a bit odd to me. Bader-Meinhof gang?

His name has been released now.

He is Carlo Konstantin Kohl

He was convicted in Australia for drug trafficking and dealing in stolen opals.

http://www.frasercoastchronicle.com.au/news/opal-bandits-sentenced-to-nine-years-in-prison/1561778/

More recent photos of him walking through Swampy in a jumpsuit and also a mugshot are in BP now.

10,000 Baht reward offered by the cops.

Edited May 27, 2013 by creekside

[creekside]

Look at the cameras.

It's reported that CCTV has footage of him leaving through a fire exit in Concourse G, although normally that requires ID to transit and the exit is normally alarmed if it is opened without permission.

AOT is investigating how neither stopped him.

One problem already identified.

Electricity to the door alarm had been disconnected.

[Songhua]

Look at the cameras.

It's reported that CCTV has footage of him leaving through a fire exit in Concourse G, although normally that requires ID to transit and the exit is normally alarmed if it is opened without permission.

AOT is investigating how neither stopped him.

One problem already identified.

Electricity to the door alarm had been disconnected.

And it has also been revealed that he was not being escorted by police at all, but by a security officer from a firm regularly contracted to perform such tasks. The security officer is reported to have fallen asleep in the transit lounge and Kohl walked through the fire exit (to which the power had been disconnected) with airline staff.

[creekside]

OP link:

The AoT has refused to accept responsibility for the man's escape.

Good to see that exoneration from culpability put out there from the git go as its beginning to look like a number of AOT actions certainly contributed to the German felon's current status of whereabouts unknown.

Edited May 27, 2013 by creekside

[Trembly]

OP link:

The AoT has refused to accept responsibility for the man's escape.

Good to see that exoneration from culpability put out there from the git go as its beginning to look like a number of AOT actions certainly contributed to the German felon's current status.

From my computer terminal it's beginning to smell quite fishy, what with guards conveniently falling asleep and alarms conveniently disconnected from electricity. . .

Even so, AoT would be well within their rights to shoot back : "We're an airport operator, not a prison operator: It's not our fault that there was only one security guard escorting an unmarked and uncuffed prisoner, and it was certainly not our fault that he fell asleep on the job. Not to mention that the Thai police were not even informed of the prisoner's presence until after the escape even though the Thai police are members of Interpol".

Edited May 27, 2013 by Trembly

[coppywriter]

Deputy Comander of the Immigration Bureau said that the transit area is outside of the bureau's jurisdiction. Can someone explain this to me please? If this is actually correct then who does have jurisdiction over the transit area?

[lemoncake]

OP link:

The AoT has refused to accept responsibility for the man's escape.

Good to see that exoneration from culpability put out there from the git go as its beginning to look like a number of AOT actions certainly contributed to the German felon's current status.

From my computer terminal it's beginning to smell quite fishy, what with guards conveniently falling asleep and alarms conveniently disconnected from electricity. . .

Even so, AoT would be well within their rights to shoot back : "We're an airport operator, not a prison operator: It's not our fault that there was only one security guard escorting an unmarked and uncuffed prisoner, and it was certainly not our fault that he fell asleep on the job".

All 100% true, however it is their fault that a man without a passport has managed to leave airport and enter the country

[lemoncake]

Deputy Comander of the Immigration Bureau said that the transit area is outside of the bureau's jurisdiction. Can someone explain this to me please? If this is actually correct then who does have jurisdiction over the transit area?

I would guess AOT and its security

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Does this guy have a name? How about posting a photo of him? I'd keep my eyes open here in Pattaya if I knew what he looked like... All seems a bit odd to me. Bader-Meinhof gang?

His name has been released now.

He is Carlo Konstantin Kohl

He was convicted in Australia for drug trafficking and dealing in stolen opals.

http://www.frasercoastchronicle.com.au/news/opal-bandits-sentenced-to-nine-years-in-prison/1561778/

More recent photos of him walking through Swampy in a jumpsuit and also a mugshot are in BP now.

10,000 Baht reward offered by the cops.

The last line of the Sept 2012 article you linked to above reads:

He will be eligible for parole in January [2013] because of the time he has already served.

[Trembly]

Deputy Comander of the Immigration Bureau said that the transit area is outside of the bureau's jurisdiction. Can someone explain this to me please? If this is actually correct then who does have jurisdiction over the transit area?

I would guess AOT and its security

Suvarnabhumi Airport has it's own police station. Immigration Police are responsible for manning the 'border' but everywhere else, air-side or land-side, comes under the jurisdiction of the Tamruat Phuthorn / ordinary boys in brown.

AOT signs MOU with Royal Thai Police for the new Suvarnabhumi Airport Police Station

[lemoncake]

Deputy Comander of the Immigration Bureau said that the transit area is outside of the bureau's jurisdiction. Can someone explain this to me please? If this is actually correct then who does have jurisdiction over the transit area?

I would guess AOT and its security

Suvarnabhumi Airport has it's own police station. Immigration Police are responsible for manning the 'border' but everywhere else, air-side or land-side, comes under the jurisdiction of the Tamruat Phuthorn / ordinary boys in brown.

AOT signs MOU with Royal Thai Police for the new Suvarnabhumi Airport Police Station

Sorry, confused. Are you confirming what i said or arguing otherwise?

[Bagwan]

I think this story is more than a little inaccurate as Interpol does not escort prisoners. If he was being extradited to Germany then police officers from that country would have gone to Australia to collect him.

Correct. But the experts here know better.

Interpol is a clearing house for information. It has no powers in any country, certainly not of arrest. Think of Interpol as an amalgam of a post office and a library.

[Trembly]

Deputy Comander of the Immigration Bureau said that the transit area is outside of the bureau's jurisdiction. Can someone explain this to me please? If this is actually correct then who does have jurisdiction over the transit area?

I would guess AOT and its security

Suvarnabhumi Airport has it's own police station. Immigration Police are responsible for manning the 'border' but everywhere else, air-side or land-side, comes under the jurisdiction of the Tamruat Phuthorn / ordinary boys in brown.

AOT signs MOU with Royal Thai Police for the new Suvarnabhumi Airport Police Station

Sorry, confused. Are you confirming what i said or arguing otherwise?

Read the link. It says that AOT and the Royal Thai Police have an understanding that security for the whole airport (but obviously not the immigration 'border crossing') is under the jurisdiction of the Samut Prakan force of the Royal Thai Police, with a police station on the AOT property paid for by AOT. In other words, RTP are responsible for policing all sectors of the airport.

Naturally, Immigration Police have put their hands up and said "it's not us, all we do is check passports", which leaves the RTP, who are claiming that they were never even informed of the transiting of this prisoner (handled by a private security firm with a regular contract for such work) until after the escape.

Edited May 27, 2013 by Trembly

[animatic]

I guess he's been detained by the duty free scam guys.

Or maybe he is being RETAINED for his expertise by the same duty free menches.