weegee Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Bottles in 7/11 would be real deal wouldn't they? NO! NO! and NO!....any 7/11 other than thailand, Vietnam, is ok.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisinth Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Taste would be a dead giveaway with Jacks. Its the only thing they couldn't fake. Isn't that right Weegee! Yep....Do not buy No7 Jack in thailand....it's anything but JD....SMELL helps, but you have to buy to open. If the Black seal is loose and you cant get your nail under it to rip it off....IT"S FAKE....Pick up your gentlemen Jack from Duty Free at Singapore. It's the real deal Good point about the seal. Also check that it has the plastic 'pourer' inserted into the neck of the bottle; I have seen many without this, but they were coming in from Burma. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisinth Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 RD, if you want the quality of JD, then don't buy at border crossings! As some posters have said, the price is usually a dead give-away for the product. Buy it in-country from any reputable distributer and as long as it has the Thai tax label on it, it will be good. Generally they won't copy this as the penalties are too high. The tax label is required for any bar or club to sell across the counter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisinth Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 And as a final indicator for genuine quality, if it turns green when you add ice this is not a good sign. Ensure your body is between the poured drink and your guest, add the coke, stir and serve the guest. Excuse yourself for about 10 minutes and return (Generally enough time for the toxins to affect the blood stream or nervous system). If no visible signs are present with the guest, continue hosting said guest and sip your own drink slowly............... RD, I do hope you realize I don't really mean the above; if indeed it does turn green, save it for someone you don't like.............. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NanLaew Posted June 2, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2013 This is what you do. run your finger over the lables and if they peel off easy then a cheap glue. Exactly. They use the expensive glue on the inside. >>And, when you look in the bottle, does it have a batch code printed on the backside of the frontlabel ?> Supposedly this is one way to tell although it seems like this would be easy to fake, and unless you are familiar with the processing codes you may not be able to use this as an authentication method? Did you see some "Jacque Danielles, Olde No. 9" somewhere? Where? What was the price? Buy from a reliable source. Or drink Sangsom. Sangsom is good stuff....Anyone who reckons Sangsom is 'good stuff' loses ALL credibility when claiming all JD sold retail in Thailand is bogus IMHO. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issangeorge Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 For the price songsam is okay, not good, but okay. However remember songsam is a rum, not a whiskey. Sent from my i-mobile IQ 6 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lomatopo Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 For the price songsam is okay, not good, but okay. However remember songsam is a rum, not a whiskey. Sent from my i-mobile IQ 6 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Just goes to show how much I know. I just assumed Sang Som was a sort of Thai Whiskey, I've never tried it. But yes, I see it is a rum, distilled from molasses. ThaiBev: "The Circle of Happiness" ("no wonder it feels like the room is spinning") http://www.thaibev.com/en08/product.aspx?sublv1gID=12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiangmaikelly Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 (edited) I would imagine the specific gravity of the real and fake would be different so just buy a hydrometer/refractometer. You can buy Jack D flavoring or Chivas or most other spirits. However flying with a refractometer is a problem as the people checking luggage think it's some kind of bomb or gun. Moonshiners in the States use wood chips. When I was a kid I heard that 80% of the whiskey in New Orleans was faked. Don't know if it was true. Edited June 2, 2013 by chiangmaikelly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcharacters Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Bottles in 7/11 would be real deal wouldn't they? . Absolutely just as Tesco, Big C and Lotus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisb Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 sounds like its all fakes in Thailand. I suggest just buy fake stuff, at least your not getting ripped off. Plus it allows you to plan ahead with the thunder clap headache the next day.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisinth Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 For the price songsam is okay, not good, but okay. However remember songsam is a rum, not a whiskey. Sent from my i-mobile IQ 6 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app But only as a mixer............... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjhbigv Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 I actually did a comparison on this subject a while ago, I bought a bottle from Duty Free Mai Sai and a bottle from Tesco......the easiest way.....the label and taste! The real stuff has an embossed thick metallic type label, the fake stuff has a plain paper label (normally with ripples in it) that is flat and not embossed and feels 'cheap'...also, side by side the comparison is really easy...there is no comparison in taste! http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/607043-buying-booze-in-tachilek-jack-daniels/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GottaGo Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Yes any large retail chain, especially those with international affiliations will refrain from stocking knock-offs of such prominent brands, especially where the actual quality difference is so noticeable once the customer actually consumes the product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSure Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 I would imagine the specific gravity of the real and fake would be different so just buy a hydrometer/refractometer. You can buy Jack D flavoring or Chivas or most other spirits. However flying with a refractometer is a problem as the people checking luggage think it's some kind of bomb or gun. Moonshiners in the States use wood chips. When I was a kid I heard that 80% of the whiskey in New Orleans was faked. Don't know if it was true. "Moonshiners in the States??" How libelous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donnie Brasco Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 This fake Jack Daniels issue is only the tip of the iceberg though is it not ? If you look at other brands of distilled liquor and consider the incentives to fake them it gets scary. Then there's the adulteration issue. What dairy products or, for that matter juice products could be added here ? When you really think of it would anyone here agree that Thai Visa is damned brave to run a thread like this on a public forum ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisinth Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 (edited) This fake Jack Daniels issue is only the tip of the iceberg though is it not ? If you look at other brands of distilled liquor and consider the incentives to fake them it gets scary. Then there's the adulteration issue. What dairy products or, for that matter juice products could be added here ? When you really think of it would anyone here agree that Thai Visa is damned brave to run a thread like this on a public forum ? Have to agree Donnie, you need to be on your toes. Some real good copiers out there, I nearly got caught out with the below: Luckily, I was on the ball that day.................... Edit: Click on the thumbs to enlarge Edited June 3, 2013 by chrisinth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Spelling mistakes on fakes? I believe the REAL one spells whisky wrongly. Bit of nerve even calling it whisky. Everyone I know drinks JD and coke, to hide the taste anyway. With real whisky, mixing with coke could get you into a fight where I come from in Aberdeen. I used to like the taste of JD although as with all alcohol the taste was secondary, the effect was primary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lomatopo Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 (edited) "Black Labial" Gotta be a joke. Like the JD spoof label. What do they say, "Once you've tried....". Bit of nerve even calling it whisky. Believe "Whisky" is sort of AC for Scotland only, while "Whiskey" can be used for product distilled elsewhere. Edited June 3, 2013 by lomatopo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weegee Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Spelling mistakes on fakes? I believe the REAL one spells whisky wrongly. Bit of nerve even calling it whisky. Everyone I know drinks JD and coke, to hide the taste anyway. With real whisky, mixing with coke could get you into a fight where I come from in Aberdeen. I used to like the taste of JD although as with all alcohol the taste was secondary, the effect was primary. Coke enhances the JD....gets it into the blood stream quicker ....recommended by Dr weegee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisinth Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 "Black Labial" Gotta be a joke. Like the JD spoof label. What do they say, "Once you've tried....". Bit of nerve even calling it whisky. Believe "Whisky" is sort of AC for Scotland only, while "Whiskey" can be used for product distilled elsewhere. The 'Black Labial' bottle was brought back from Laos for me a few years ago, but I think it originated in China. To be honest, I didn't try it myself, but those that finished the bottle survived and I don't recall any hangover complaints the next day. Their sight came back gradually over the next couple of days................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bri1guy Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 A third of the world’s alcohol is estimated to come from what we call illicit production, executive of Brown-Forman, told the Financial Times, Maker of JACK DANIELS “It can be very dangerous to the point of being poisonous.” The International Center for Alcohol Policies says that 33 per cent of the alcohol consumed in the world is unregistered. According to The Head of the International Federation of Spirits Producers, spirits companies lose more than $1bn a year from counterfeit alcohols & over 30 countries sell these Alcohols! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phronesis Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Often the only way to tell a fake diamond is to place it on a piece of wood and hit it with a hammer. If it shatters it is fake and if not it is real. You could use the same strategy to test your Jack. Drink the entire bottle. If it is fake, and you end up shattered, the next morning your tongue will feel like wood and your head like someone has hit you with a hammer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docno Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Impression of 'fake in China'... amazing ! link and here are the fake cars, even Bentlys... And... fake McDonalds are everywhere ! Forget fake Bentley's. They actually make fake eggs by hand--shells, yolks, and all--and can make a profit at it! http://singaporeseen.stomp.com.sg/stomp/sgseen/what_bugs_me/528170/watch_how_china_workers_make_fake_eggs.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masuk Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Be careful. Recently a tourist or two in Bali have died drinking fake booze. Someone had added methanol. How can we spot this type of fake? I bought a bottle of JD at the big shop between Immigration posts on the Thai/Burma Border for ฿495.00, and have an occasional drop. So far, so good. Are you guys certain all this stuff is fake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberduck Posted June 3, 2013 Author Share Posted June 3, 2013 Good point about the seal. Also check that it has the plastic 'pourer' inserted into the neck of the bottle; I have seen many without this, but they were coming in from Burma. Far as I remember that 'plastic 'pourer'' is required by Thai law. In my country they don't have them also. Barowners who use non drips hate them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodolly Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Fake JD gives you a shocker of a hangover.....Real JD doesnt U-huh.. Where did you get that fake JD? Was it a lot cheaper..? I am with you after the first drink or two who cares? I found drinking Chateau Upchuck gave me the same effect. In the morning I was fine. If all you want is taste why are you picking JD I found CC to be much smoother. Then you can step up to the more expensive ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberduck Posted June 3, 2013 Author Share Posted June 3, 2013 Sangsom is good stuff.... Which indicates that you already consumed too much of this and mind got poisoned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberduck Posted June 3, 2013 Author Share Posted June 3, 2013 'If it’s real, Jack Daniels will leave a white band around the perimeter of a glass when it’s mixed with Coca-Cola. The fake version doesn’t.' source 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Be careful. Recently a tourist or two in Bali have died drinking fake booze. Someone had added methanol. How can we spot this type of fake? I bought a bottle of JD at the big shop between Immigration posts on the Thai/Burma Border for ฿495.00, and have an occasional drop. So far, so good. Are you guys certain all this stuff is fake? You can almost guarantee it was fake. Here's another link of a death due to fake alcohol...in this case, gin. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/british-woman-died-after-drinking-poisoned-gin-on-holiday-in-indonesia-8622000.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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