Thai Education Ministry introduces "Pakistan Corner"

[Dap]

Thammasat Uni. What on earth are they on about?

Ever heard anything about managing trade ties?

See post #5

[Salapoo]

Will they be taught to stop calling them kheak?

Perhaps do an Indian lesson too and roll it into one.

[Yooyung]

Damn...why do they always steal my ideas? I was going to set up a 'Pakistan corner' out the front of my village until 'someone' that works at Thammasat also just happened to have the same idea! It was all planned out, right down to my sign printed in stylish black ink on green paper that read 'Pakistan Corner' I was going to put that on my table, along with stuff from Pakistan er...like Pakistani ice cream and a teddy bear that says the word 'Pakistan' when you push a button located near its anus. I was sure the Thai's would literally fall over themselves to talk with me, clad in traditional Pakistani dress, hair dyed black and sporting a funny accent. The market is HUGE as we all know how close Thais are to Pakistanis.

Oh well, plan B is to set up an 'Oblong Corner' where I give speeches about oblongs and sell oblong things..like an oblong circle made of cheese.

[simple1]

The Thai Ministry of Education oversees nearly 200 private Islamic Schools and allows each local community to govern the education system in their area themselves, in accordance to the Thai Constitution and Education Act.

Also to add to your knowledge the quote below from a Thai government web site: http://www.thaiembassy.org/riyadh/th/organize/29025-Muslim-in-Thailand.html

"Ninety-nine percent Sunni and one percent Shi'ite Thai Muslims enjoy inspirational and finacial support from His Majesty the King, who provided money for translating the Koran into Thai. Each year the King or his representative also presides during celebration commemorating the Prophet Muhammad's birthday. Moreover, His Majesty appoints a respected Muslim religious leader as Chularajamontri, or State Counselor for all Islamic affairs. The government also provides funds for building and renovating mosques"

[shariq607]

well i have been to Islamabad recently and im surprised to say that the road infrastructure is actually better there than here in thailand

[Bwanatickey]

Pakistan is a cricketers Mecca,they take the game very seriously,therefore would it not be in Pakistans interests to coach an international Thai team to participate in the cricket world cup. As gambling on the honest game is huge,who would you bet on winning.

[bangon04]

The story is attributed to "NNT" Are we sure this is not just short for Not The Nation?

[wellred]

Maybe they can compare who has the nuttier set of radical Islamists?

[Songhua]

It's as far as the World Expo budget will stretch.

[newermonkey]

See they don't mention religion in the list (everything else though) but if you ask a Pakistani or any Muslim for that matter what is the most important thing they would say Islam,

I think this is a big problem, people in authority are scared of them. Why don't people just come out and discuss the Islam problem?

[simple1]

See they don't mention religion in the list (everything else though) but if you ask a Pakistani or any Muslim for that matter what is the most important thing they would say Islam,

I think this is a big problem, people in authority are scared of them. Why don't people just come out and discuss the Islam problem?

Pakstani cuture is mentioned in the OP, thereby Islam. Thammasat University does have an Islamic studies course. The Uni has published "A Case Study of Malay-Muslims of Southern Thailand"

[OzMick]

Hopefully they will forgo the shooting in the head of schoolgirls who wish to be educated.

www.telegraph.co.uk › News › World News › Asia › Pakistan

BTW Are translations of the Koran now acceptable? Will Thai madrassa students now learn their national language instead of Arabic?

[thaipak]

Dear All Free & Available to Criticize Thai Visa Friends

Being a Pakistani and a long time permanent resident of Thailand and an old TV observer/reader let me add my humble opinion to all of your input, insight and mudslinging on Pakistanis, Thais or anyone for that matter once for all.

First, a few thousand students are currently enrolled in AIT, Thammasat and Assumption universities, mostly are doing Phd's, duly financed by Pakistan government. Hence Pakistani Corner in Thammasat. Now if you care to know almost all trade in live stock in Thailand is managed by 3rd generation Muslim Pathans originally from Pakistan whose kids are studying in Pakistan. So much so there are a few Thai-Pakistan school operating in North East of Pakistan for more then a decade. There are many Thai / Malay Muslim sending their kids to Pakistan for basic religious studies. Now Pakistan is in the middle of signing a free trade agreement with Malaysia so it makes sense for Thais to do something to educate their kids. Facility should be there it is up to the reader to use it or not. Just to add a little more info here, Thailand is a major importer of grey cotton cloth from Pakistan and Pakistan import a lot of stuff including food and oil products. This is a small attempt to educate my friends at TV on this Thai Corner Initiative by Thai govt. There is a lot of misconception about Muslims and Pakistani at large. I am sure if you visit the place your opinion will change, only surfing the net and watching CNN will not show you the whole picture. You people are talking about democracy in Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, and Cuba. Why USA never feel the same urge to bring this so called democracy in Egypt when it supported Hosnni Mubarak or in Yemen where it supported another dictator for 30 years or in Saudi Arabia as it serves their purpose. Please look at yourself and then criticize.

Now while we are here let me say Thailand is one of the best countries in the world to live and work. I have not paid a single dime to get all of my official work done here in the past 15 years. If you are treated other way around it explains itself. So if a Thai spouse take your money and run it is your fault you make it easy for them to do so, or if an immigration officer ask you money he knows you are not what you claim to be. So accept it with a big heart as you are still allowed to live here even though you have a very negative opinion of Thais. I respect this country and its people, bad people are everywhere and if they caught we can not penalize the whole race, if that was the case we Pakistani will have no respect for USA, but we still send our kids to study there as we are not against American we are against their policies. To cut short please see the whole picture before jumping on the conclusion.

[simple1]

Hopefully they will forgo the shooting in the head of schoolgirls who wish to be educated.

www.telegraph.co.uk › News › World News › Asia › Pakistan

BTW Are translations of the Koran now acceptable? Will Thai madrassa students now learn their national language instead of Arabic?

Don't personally know about Thai madrassa, but the Thai Muslims I know use study material that has content in Arabic with the Thai translation below. Do not know if this material is funded by the King. Again the Thai Muslims I know do not understand Arabic but learn the phonetics for Arabic script, which is then used in prayer sessions.

In reference to Thai madrassa I have come across the following and URL at:

http://zeenews.india.com/news/world/thailand-introduces-modern-science-subjects-in-madrassas_644999.html

"The school uses English language in teaching Science, Mathematics, English, Physical Education and Computers. Arabic is used in teaching all religious subjects. The curriculum is made by the government officials with consultation from Muslim leaders"

The school used as an example has 1,307 male students and 3,045 female students

[Scott]

Thaipak, thank you for your most informative post. However, please note that this thread has nothing to do with the USA or democracy in other countries.

[OzMick]

Hopefully they will forgo the shooting in the head of schoolgirls who wish to be educated.

www.telegraph.co.uk › News › World News › Asia › Pakistan

BTW Are translations of the Koran now acceptable? Will Thai madrassa students now learn their national language instead of Arabic?

Don't personally know about Thai madrassa, but the Thai Muslims I know use study material that has content in Arabic with the Thai translation below. Do not know if this material is funded by the King. Again the Thai Muslims I know do not understand Arabic but learn the phonetics for Arabic script, which is then used in prayer sessions.

In reference to Thai madrassa I have come across the following and URL at:

http://zeenews.india.com/news/world/thailand-introduces-modern-science-subjects-in-madrassas_644999.html

"The school uses English language in teaching Science, Mathematics, English, Physical Education and Computers. Arabic is used in teaching all religious subjects. The curriculum is made by the government officials with consultation from Muslim leaders"

The school used as an example has 1,307 male students and 3,045 female students

The link would be more informative if there was some indication of the balance of time spent on each subject. No mention of learning THAI????

My post and link referred to female education in Pakistan, and the risks therein.

[simple1]

Hopefully they will forgo the shooting in the head of schoolgirls who wish to be educated.

www.telegraph.co.uk › News › World News › Asia › Pakistan

BTW Are translations of the Koran now acceptable? Will Thai madrassa students now learn their national language instead of Arabic?

Don't personally know about Thai madrassa, but the Thai Muslims I know use study material that has content in Arabic with the Thai translation below. Do not know if this material is funded by the King. Again the Thai Muslims I know do not understand Arabic but learn the phonetics for Arabic script, which is then used in prayer sessions.

In reference to Thai madrassa I have come across the following and URL at:

http://zeenews.india.com/news/world/thailand-introduces-modern-science-subjects-in-madrassas_644999.html

"The school uses English language in teaching Science, Mathematics, English, Physical Education and Computers. Arabic is used in teaching all religious subjects. The curriculum is made by the government officials with consultation from Muslim leaders"

The school used as an example has 1,307 male students and 3,045 female students

The link would be more informative if there was some indication of the balance of time spent on each subject. No mention of learning THAI????

My post and link referred to female education in Pakistan, and the risks therein.

Curriculum is made by Thai government officials, you think that they do not teach Thai? Website is in Thai so...

Extract from a UNESCO report on Pakistan: The overall literacy rate at 26 per cent and the rate for girls and women at 12 per cent. There are around 250 girls colleges, and two medical colleges for women in the public sector. Some 7 million girls under 10 go to primary schools, 5.4 million between 10 and 14 attend lower secondary school, and 3 million go to higher secondary schools. About 1.5 million and 0.5 million girls respectively go to higher secondary schools/colleges and universities.

http://www.unesco.org/education/efa/know_sharing/grassroots_stories/pakistan_2.shtml

[FarangTalk]

The question we should be asking is why these Southern Muslims, who apparently should be so grateful for funding from HM The King as continuously pointed out to all and sundry, and should be so grateful to be 'Thai' are flocking to illegal madrassas, funded by Saudi Arabia to study wahhabism?

There are over 200 wahhabi madrassa schools in Southern Thailand which are not part of the government curriculum.

Pakistan also enjoys ample funding for its Madrassas from Saudi Arabia.

The answers are obvious when one understands Thailand's counter-reaction to the insurgencies between 1960 and 1990, and their human rights violations, torture, murders that reignited the crisis earlier this century and the death squads and other unacceptable methods of dealing with the situation since. That is not even considering the continuing oppression of the local traditions, culture and language.

Nor did it start as part of some Islamic extremism as the bigots would like you to believe.

Thailand bit off more than it could chew and can't swallow.

[Bagwan]

Surely NOT newsworthy..... I can't see a single thing they would have in common with each other.... So far apart culturally it's like chalk and cheese. Much better for Thai educators and academics to start REALLY concentrating on ASEAN and focus!

They're both in the world's top 10 countries for terrorism.

But I will admit, I'm struggling to think of a second thing...

They cheat at cricket. Totally unforgivable.

[OzMick]

Hopefully they will forgo the shooting in the head of schoolgirls who wish to be educated.

www.telegraph.co.uk › News › World News › Asia › Pakistan

BTW Are translations of the Koran now acceptable? Will Thai madrassa students now learn their national language instead of Arabic?

Don't personally know about Thai madrassa, but the Thai Muslims I know use study material that has content in Arabic with the Thai translation below. Do not know if this material is funded by the King. Again the Thai Muslims I know do not understand Arabic but learn the phonetics for Arabic script, which is then used in prayer sessions.

In reference to Thai madrassa I have come across the following and URL at:

http://zeenews.india.com/news/world/thailand-introduces-modern-science-subjects-in-madrassas_644999.html

"The school uses English language in teaching Science, Mathematics, English, Physical Education and Computers. Arabic is used in teaching all religious subjects. The curriculum is made by the government officials with consultation from Muslim leaders"

The school used as an example has 1,307 male students and 3,045 female students

The link would be more informative if there was some indication of the balance of time spent on each subject. No mention of learning THAI????

My post and link referred to female education in Pakistan, and the risks therein.

Curriculum is made by Thai government officials, you think that they do not teach Thai? Website is in Thai so...

Extract from a UNESCO report on Pakistan: The overall literacy rate at 26 per cent and the rate for girls and women at 12 per cent. There are around 250 girls colleges, and two medical colleges for women in the public sector. Some 7 million girls under 10 go to primary schools, 5.4 million between 10 and 14 attend lower secondary school, and 3 million go to higher secondary schools. About 1.5 million and 0.5 million girls respectively go to higher secondary schools/colleges and universities.

http://www.unesco.org/education/efa/know_sharing/grassroots_stories/pakistan_2.shtml

WOW! 12% literacy rate - now that's something to declare with pride. And some of those get shot in the head by religious militants, girl's schools get burned by others, bombs explode in mosques and marketplaces. Actually the literacy figures I have are far higher than that (by a factor of 5+), but I think it would be reasonable to add to your figures for female education that the population as of 2011 was 187+ million.

[simple1]

There are other reports of higher lieracy rates, but UNESCO claims they are not correct. Plus World Bank claims percentile of population living in poverty has increased. Very corrupt government, feudal society. Unsurprisingly Islamic extremism seems to be on the increase who kill or attempt to do so, government miniisters/leaders who speak out against radical Islam. From the outside a very conflicted society, not on my list of places to visit.

http://dawn.com/2013/04/30/jump-in-pakistans-poverty-level/

[skonisa]

What do u know about pakistan?a dirty underdevelopd country?just see news about pakistan in news.they never show actul face of pakistan and rubbish like u beleive what u see in news.3 days before in usa one person kill 3 people after they knew that person name morin(english name) so that person call mad.but is hiz name muhammad or abdull some thing its call terorist.all bed thing belong to islamic country.they never show good face to these islamic countries.when any news about islamic country they show on dirty area .never show high socity so stupid like u who never see country they think DIRTY UNDERDEVELOPED COUNTRY

[skonisa]

Thanks for your good info

Love thailand.love pakistan

[animatic]

Or it's just a public way to stroke Pakistans embassy weenies

to get them to buy more over priced government rice.

One corner of a single University library, a few posters and a few books.

And more press coverage than it deserves for any reason,

that doesn't somehow profit the government some how...

or just as DISTRACTION.

[Scott]

There is only one topic that I am aware of that is off limits to this forum and even limited discussion of that is permitted.

The problem with those who wish to argue about religion come to the debate with few weapons and an arsenal of prejudice.

The discussion, if it ever gets off the ground, will need to be in a different thread, however.

A number of off-topic and troll posts have been deleted along with replies.

[bigbamboo]

On a more positive note more mature TV posters amongst us, especially those who lived and worked in London, will remember a time when the only place you could buy food after 6pm was your local 'Paki Shop' as all the English ones had shut up shop and gone home for their dinner. They were a boon to us back then, bless 'em.

[OzMick]

What do u know about pakistan?a dirty underdevelopd country?just see news about pakistan in news.they never show actul face of pakistan and rubbish like u beleive what u see in news.3 days before in usa one person kill 3 people after they knew that person name morin(english name) so that person call mad.but is hiz name muhammad or abdull some thing its call terorist.all bed thing belong to islamic country.they never show good face to these islamic countries.when any news about islamic country they show on dirty area .never show high socity so stupid like u who never see country they think DIRTY UNDERDEVELOPED COUNTRY

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasphemy_law_in_Pakistan

The Pakistan Penal Code prohibits blasphemy against any recognised religion, providing penalties ranging from a fine to death. An accusation of blasphemy commonly subjects the accused, police, lawyers, and judges to harassment, threats, and attacks. An accusation is sometimes the prelude to vigilantism and rioting.

Calls for change in the blasphemy laws have been strongly resisted by Islamic parties.

Prominent figures like Salman Taseer (the former governor of Punjab) and Shahbaz Bhatti (the Federal Minister for Minorities) have been assassinated for their opposition to the blasphemy laws.

Wonderful place, can't wait to not go there.