Scott Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Blatantly sexist posts have been removed as well as replies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 @Scott, welcome to the Australian conservatives forum. Top bunch aren't they? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Songhua Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 While Julia Gillard's voice grated on me ... and millions of others, there is one Labor politician who no longer serves is a man who I could listen to all day. Barry Jones Does anyone else here remember him? Undefeated champion on the BP Pick a Box quiz show in the 60's. A very smart man and a good politician. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Lawrence Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 (edited) I had Parliament Time on in the background on the TV ... yes ... like sticking needles in ones eyes and ears. Have to say, Kevin Rudd put in a polished performance. No date for the Election yet. . Yes he did very well and was well prepared. I have to give it to Tony Abbott and the respect he paid Stephen Smith when he announced his retirement. At least Kevin07 can take a punch and give a good counter spray. Something Labor has not done in the last 3 years. Smith had the worst job in parliament; he had to break very sad news to loved ones. Even Catter has gone over to Kev. Politics in OZ has been very boring for the last 3 years. Saint Tony is a jiber jabber, Julia was too good for Tony' sprays. They really need another session of Parliament to have some more old fashioned politics. Edited June 27, 2013 by Chris Lawrence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsailor35 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 The PM makes no difference when you voted for the party. Anyhow if they change leader, its just a different lemon, same tree. While Labor still won't win with Rudd, polls indicate it will be a lot closer contest. Many high profile pollies will be saved from annilhation! And that my friend is exactly why they will jump ship! Just saving their own jobs, stuff the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 I love the way all the women's groups are coming out and voicing their opinions. Remarks like Julia was stabbed in the back by male chauvinists and misogynists and she was the best person to lead the party. I didn't hear the cries of misandrists when she did the same thing to Kevin. Similarly, the old crusties and Allan Jones disciples are wondering what they are going to do with their 'Ditch the Witch' placards now. Not even Keating, at the lowest ebb of his popularity ever got the disrepect she got. Have you considered that she deserved the disrespect she got for being a liar and splitting the government, not to mention being a backstabber? I don't think Keating was ever so low. None of it means she deserved posters with 'Bob Brown's bitch' written on them. I did like Keating though. If he was coming for you, you would see him coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsailor35 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Reports are saying Rudd has been returned to the PM job. May call an election in August. Election date is the 17 Aug Yeh! he's gotta get in quick before the voting public remember what a stuff up he was before he got knifed. The arrogant little pr*** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsailor35 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Wonder what the $ cost to us tax payers is for this vote? To get rid of her and her cronies, I think the tax payers just had a relief Good Luck to Mr Rudd. (That is not a supporting labor comment, it is just nicer to see the Witch and her bitches run and to see a better election) The Donkey Vote is still leading the way though, if anything just to protest the requirement to vote. I believe it should be your decision to vote or not to vote, why encourage the bastards. I wish it was Rudd vrs Turnball actually. Both have brains. He should be leading the Libs instead of that Abbot complete utter nut case freak show hypercritical bible basher ^$#@%. Origin Live radio here http://www.2gb.com/listen-live Brains ! you obviously have no idea that Abbott was a Rhodes Scolar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsailor35 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 What does this mean for non Australians? If Abbot wins, Australia become a backwards freak show. And if KRudd wins it will disappear into a debt ridden 3rd world country run by the trade unions, with no future whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David48 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 ... you obviously have no idea that Abbott was a Rhodes Scolar Actually, you might be surprised which Australians of note and influences have also achieved that accolade ... Kim Beazley Bob Hawke Malcolm Turnbell So, of the Prime Ministers or opposition Leaders ... two from each side of the Political divide. Australian_Rhodes_scholars . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David48 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 @Scott, welcome to the Australian conservatives forum. Top bunch aren't they? I hope ... Mr samran ... you aren't referring to me ... . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David48 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 If you never got to see this, I do recommend it. Russell Crowe interviewed by Leigh Sales in the ABC's 7.30 He talks about a number of things, but, in staying on topic, he talks about Australian Politics for a significant part of the interview. Russell Crowe praises Australia but condemns political 'lack of gallantry' The political bit starts at about 5.00 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 @David48, was referring to the posts scott had to ban. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chooka Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 @David48, was referring to the posts scott had to ban. I missed them, he was to quick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 ... you obviously have no idea that Abbott was a Rhodes Scolar Actually, you might be surprised which Australians of note and influences have also achieved that accolade ... Kim Beazley Bob Hawke Malcolm Turnbell So, of the Prime Ministers or opposition Leaders ... two from each side of the Political divide. Australian_Rhodes_scholars . It's a great shame that these intellects have failed Australia by not funding policies to drag Australia out of an agrarian/resource based economy with minimal diversification. e.g. Israel has three times greater investment in R&D by % of GDP than Australia and has flourishing export driven high tech industries. Australia’s near neighbour, Malaysia, also beats Australia hands down on encouraging value add industries. Cannot remember which party, but they actually reduced the tax write offs for R&D expenditure; how near sighted can you be? Australia also suffers a brain drain for those who have commercially innovative ideas, lack of infrastructure and so on. Hopefully funded policies will be articulated in the upcoming elections to address the shortcomings that have been going on for years rather than indulging in the usual waste of space political attacks on their opponents. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rust Never Sleeps Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 What does this mean for non Australians? If Abbot wins, Australia become a backwards freak show. And if KRudd wins it will disappear into a debt ridden 3rd world country run by the trade unions, with no future whatsoever. Kevin Rudd is loathed by the trade union movement, that was why he was dumped in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rust Never Sleeps Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 If Peter Garrett was a person of conviction, he would never joined the ALP but ran as an independent candidate in the Senate,he was totally out of his depth as a politician. If you want to be a cabinet minister in either of the major parties you always have to toe the line,no room for dissent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasun Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 What does this mean for non Australians? If Abbot wins, Australia become a backwards freak show. And if KRudd wins it will disappear into a debt ridden 3rd world country run by the trade unions, with no future whatsoever. Kevin Rudd is loathed by the trade union movement, that was why he was dumped in the first place. It's also part of what makes him popular with moderates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrantSmith Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Hahaha Bob Brown's B**ch... Classic signs.. Ditch the Witch... A Grade... Had she not knifed Rudd in the back, it's likely these signs wouldn't have appeared... But with the Australian love of the underdog, the people got on KRudd's bandwagon and went to town on Gillard's Gang... Karma's a bitch and revenge is a dish best served cold, that's what Gillard got. She set the rules and to her credit, she took it like a man Abbott may well be a Rhodes scholar, but he's a muppet and a bully. These things do not endear him to the people. Turnball is also a Rhodes scholar and a much more likeable prospect. He's also for marriage equality, which would endear him to a demographic that at present wouldn't vote for the Coalition for all the tickets on Broadway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABCer Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 (edited) I have tried very hard to stay out of this topic. The consensus in political issues is just as impossible as in religion. Inevitably, this my position will be thrashed by one side of believers, but this does not exclude a bashing from both sides. Not that I really care. Labour, Liberals, - what does it matter? Did an average Australian ever felt any better under any one of them? Not me... Whitlam, a great and eloquent speaker who nearly sold us for Arab loans... Fraser, a drunk peasant, losing the country face with his pants... Hawke, the publicly crying drunkard who couldn't keep the zip up... ..... do I have to continue, or you know it yourself? Edited June 28, 2013 by ABCer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Publicus Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 What does this mean for non Australians? If Abbot wins, Australia become a backwards freak show. And if KRudd wins it will disappear into a debt ridden 3rd world country run by the trade unions, with no future whatsoever. I see. It'll be the end of the world as we know it. Sounds grave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briboy Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 What does this mean for non Australians? If Abbot wins, Australia become a backwards freak show. And if KRudd wins it will disappear into a debt ridden 3rd world country run by the trade unions, with no future whatsoever. I see. It'll be the end of the world as we know it. Sounds grave. i see some people don`t remember who was steering the ship when the financile crisis rolled in over the waves....... you know who pulled out the stimilus package that i suppose the same people say never helped big buisness keep on even keel......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 In my opinion the Rudd government massively over reacted to the GFC. The Australian banks were at the time stable & had extremely limited exposure to the sub-prime market. Rudd basically threw away A$20+ billion supporting Centrelink beneficiaries to spend money on the likes of TVs, alcohol and gambling. The retail sector claims the giveaway saved jobs, but who were the real beneficiaries, if not the government, that very quickly proceded to erode any gains in their support by ongoing failures in fiscal policy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Simple, you make a reasonable point but it is only one which can be made with the benefit of hindsight. The advice was brief and succinct "go hard, go early, go households'. For all the shoulda woulda coulda conjecture, Australia basically survived to GFC and maintained low unemployment. To that end, the response was a success. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Simple, you make a reasonable point but it is only one which can be made with the benefit of hindsight. The advice was brief and succinct "go hard, go early, go households'. For all the shoulda woulda coulda conjecture, Australia basically survived to GFC and maintained low unemployment. To that end, the response was a success. Think this is the first time we disagree. The Federal government knew the Australian financial system was not under threat by the GFC. Just my opinion, not being a global financial specialist, but an unnecessary populist action taken by government, that may be protected jobs in the retail sector in the short term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rust Never Sleeps Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 What does this mean for non Australians? If Abbot wins, Australia become a backwards freak show. And if KRudd wins it will disappear into a debt ridden 3rd world country run by the trade unions, with no future whatsoever. I see. It'll be the end of the world as we know it. Sounds grave. You are right Replicus, Australia is the centre of the universe, the end is nigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rust Never Sleeps Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 sorry about the sprlling error Publicus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rust Never Sleeps Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 David48 re: Barry Jones One of the greatest of minds of Australia. re; Sir Les Patterson www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfNvunRmgcw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David48 Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 (edited) David48 re: Barry Jones One of the greatest of minds of Australia. re; Sir Les Patterson www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfNvunRmgcw Yes ... he/she/in-between ... is awfully funny ... I'm a Fan. Paid my hard earned coin to watch him live on stage a few years ago. . Edited June 28, 2013 by David48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Publicus Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 sorry about the sprlling error Publicus Actually, I'd quickly misread your typo as "Republicus", which, after it had jumped off the screen at me, got to gain a certain ring to it. I've been Publicus for too long I'm afraid to change it now. Interesting name though, I must say. Republicus. It could sound rather Senatorial, Nah, too, too pompous. Publicus does it just fine, I'd think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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