midas Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Many goldminers have a production price of 800-900 $ per ounce. Be careful buying gold now. Total costs are sitting at $1,600/oz for the 13 biggest companies, which has been our universe for the last 13 years. Over the last two to three years, we have seen total costs rise an average of 15–17%. At a gold price of $1,600/oz, the industry does not produce a single Dollar of free cash flow. If we take a cost inflation of only 10%/year, we will need a gold price over $2,000/oz to maintain production. http://goldnews.bullionvault.com/gold-mining-all-in-costs-031220132 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshiwara Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Many goldminers have a production price of 800-900 $ per ounce. Be careful buying gold now. Total costs are sitting at $1,600/oz for the 13 biggest companies, which has been our universe for the last 13 years. Over the last two to three years, we have seen total costs rise an average of 15–17%. At a gold price of $1,600/oz, the industry does not produce a single Dollar of free cash flow. If we take a cost inflation of only 10%/year, we will need a gold price over $2,000/oz to maintain production. http://goldnews.bullionvault.com/gold-mining-all-in-costs-031220132 Website for the flogging of gold bullion. Ignore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackJack Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 you guys have no substance only your opinions test yourself go and buy 1 kilo of physical gold and see how long delivery takes then stick you opinion where it belongs it takes 60 seconds weighing 3 bars each 20 Baht plus 1 bar of 5 Baht and perhaps another 2 minutes placing the bars in a nice little box while another shop assistant is using the machine to count the 11 bundles each THB 100k (plus some change). that might take an additional 2-3 minutes. total delivery time since entering the shop max 10 minutes if no other customer ahead. note: i am talking of "my" goldshop located in Pattaya Klang and not about the shop with the empty shelves in Nakhon Wetdream, Confusedbury Province you are referring to. advice: try and sell your fairy tales to people who possess a wealth of no idea as far as gold purchases are concerned and stop ridiculing yourself. and when was the last time you did that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackJack Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 i get it now you were buying Thai Gold where i was referring to 99.99% hallmarked gold - so i guess lost in translation i should have been more precise knowing that English is your second language sorry for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackJack Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Many goldminers have a production price of 800-900 $ per ounce. Be careful buying gold now. Total costs are sitting at $1,600/oz for the 13 biggest companies, which has been our universe for the last 13 years. Over the last two to three years, we have seen total costs rise an average of 15–17%. At a gold price of $1,600/oz, the industry does not produce a single Dollar of free cash flow. If we take a cost inflation of only 10%/year, we will need a gold price over $2,000/oz to maintain production. http://goldnews.bullionvault.com/gold-mining-all-in-costs-031220132 Website for the flogging of gold bullion. Ignore. reasons why gold will rally Before the Greek crisis flared up, debt-to-GDP in Greece stood at 113 percent. Today, even after all the write-offs, Greece's debt-to-GDP is a whopping 157 percent. In Spain, pre-crisis debt stood at 40 percent of GDP. Today it's 84 percent. In Italy, it was 106 percent. Now it's 127 percent. In France, it was 68 percent. Now it's 90 percent. Even Germany's debt-to-GDP is worsening, leaping from almost 67 percent in 2008 to 82 percent today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 i get it now you were buying Thai Gold where i was referring to 99.99% hallmarked gold - so i guess lost in translation i should have been more precise knowing that English is your second language sorry for that. in case you are referring to me... let's be very precise -English is my third language, -whatever physical gold we hold is 50% (Thai) 965 and 50% 999.9, -i have mentioned more than once that 999.9 takes 2-3 working days for delivery (from BKK) when greater weights than 1 ounce are required, -1 ounce bars of 999.9 are available in Pattaya for immediate delivery (mostly Crédit Suisse issues), -there has never been any shortage of 999.9 except for the delivery time. note: i wish i owned 1% of the 999.9 value than can be bought in Bangkok any time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farang000999 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Many goldminers have a production price of 800-900 $ per ounce. Be careful buying gold now. citation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midas Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Many goldminers have a production price of 800-900 $ per ounce. Be careful buying gold now. citation? there wont be any because he is talking crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midas Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Here’s what is happening, according to a recent report from the World Gold Council: sorry Naam no prize for second BTW why will it take the USA 7 years to give the Germans the Gold that they have been safe keeping could it be that there is none? Lars Schall: In January this year, the Deutsche Bundesbank announced that it wants to repatriate some of its gold holdings at the NY Fed and all of its gold from the Banque de France. Do you consider it a bit strange that apparently it will take seven years to bring roughly 300 tons of gold from New York City to Frankfurt and five years to bring roughly 370 tons from Paris to Frankfurt? Moreover, the Bundesbank will leave a huge amount of its gold in New York City and London to have in the event of a currency crisis ”the ability to exchange gold for foreign currency […] within a short space of time.” Does this argument convince you? Norbert Haering: The specifics of the plan for partial repatriation of gold seem to be designed to quash the public discussion about gold storage abroad. For many years to come, the Bundesbank will be able to answer these calls by saying: we are already working on it. And that will work well as a communication strategy. But the truth of the matter is that there is no good reason to store your national gold treasure abroad. The issue and the way in which the Bundesbank got itself tangled up in conflicting statements and justifications during these discussions makes one suspicious that either there is a problem with the gold or that Germany might not be as sovereign a state as we like to think. I do not know which one is true. http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 sumbody stoled ze tcherman gold and zen schorted ze empty vault! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackJack Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 you guys have no substance only your opinions test yourself go and buy 1 kilo of physical gold and see how long delivery takes then stick you opinion where it belongs it takes 60 seconds weighing 3 bars each 20 Baht plus 1 bar of 5 Baht and perhaps another 2 minutes placing the bars in a nice little box while another shop assistant is using the machine to count the 11 bundles each THB 100k (plus some change). that might take an additional 2-3 minutes. total delivery time since entering the shop max 10 minutes if no other customer ahead. note: i am talking of "my" goldshop located in Pattaya Klang and not about the shop with the empty shelves in Nakhon Wetdream, Confusedbury Province you are referring to. advice: try and sell your fairy tales to people who possess a wealth of no idea as far as gold purchases are concerned and stop ridiculing yourself. Naam let me know the address as i would like to buy before the Bernanke's next speech - possibly wed or thursday like to load up before then thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midas Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 (edited) you guys have no substance only your opinions test yourself go and buy 1 kilo of physical gold and see how long delivery takes then stick you opinion where it belongs it takes 60 seconds weighing 3 bars each 20 Baht plus 1 bar of 5 Baht and perhaps another 2 minutes placing the bars in a nice little box while another shop assistant is using the machine to count the 11 bundles each THB 100k (plus some change). that might take an additional 2-3 minutes. total delivery time since entering the shop max 10 minutes if no other customer ahead. note: i am talking of "my" goldshop located in Pattaya Klang and not about the shop with the empty shelves in Nakhon Wetdream, Confusedbury Province you are referring to. advice: try and sell your fairy tales to people who possess a wealth of no idea as far as gold purchases are concerned and stop ridiculing yourself. Naam let me know the address as i would like to buy before the Bernanke's next speech - possibly wed or thursday like to load up before then thanks A friend of mine tried to buy some at Hua Seng Heng in Chinatown in Bangkok two weeks ago and was told categorically there was nothing available Edited July 15, 2013 by midas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 A friend of mine tried to buy some at Hua Seng Heng in Chinatown in Bangkok two weeks ago and was told categorically there was nothing available that must have been the chap who wanted to buy half a pound of smoked kipper, a glass of Marmite and three breakfast rolls at Hua Seng Heng. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midas Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 you guys have no substance only your opinions test yourself go and buy 1 kilo of physical gold and see how long delivery takes then stick you opinion where it belongs it takes 60 seconds weighing 3 bars each 20 Baht plus 1 bar of 5 Baht and perhaps another 2 minutes placing the bars in a nice little box while another shop assistant is using the machine to count the 11 bundles each THB 100k (plus some change). that might take an additional 2-3 minutes. total delivery time since entering the shop max 10 minutes if no other customer ahead. note: i am talking of "my" goldshop located in Pattaya Klang and not about the shop with the empty shelves in Nakhon Wetdream, Confusedbury Province you are referring to. advice: try and sell your fairy tales to people who possess a wealth of no idea as far as gold purchases are concerned and stop ridiculing yourself. Naam let me know the address as i would like to buy before the Bernanke's next speech - possibly wed or thursday like to load up before then thanks A friend of mine tried to buy some at Hua Seng Heng in Chinatown in Bangkok two weeks ago and was told categorically there was nothing available http://huasengheng.com/margin_requirement.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midas Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Hua Seng Heng is the oldest gold shop in Chinatown http://huasengheng.com/about_us.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Hua Seng Heng is the oldest gold shop in Chinatown http://huasengheng.com/about_us.php Tang To Kang - the oldest gold shop in Bangkok. It was founded by Tohkang Saetang, a Chinese immigrant, in the 1880s. It was the only gold shop in the Sampheng areas during the reign of Rama VI to be granted a royal appointment to use the Garuda emblem in 1921. Hua Seng Heng is one of the oldest and pioneering gold shops in Yaowarat. They have been selling gold since 1951, and today have about 5 branches – 4 of which are in Yaowarat, and 1 at Seacon Square, which sell jewelry as well as gold bars. http://www.goldpricethai.com/articles?fn_mode=fullnews&fn_id=6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackJack Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Hua Seng Heng is the oldest gold shop in Chinatown http://huasengheng.com/about_us.php Tang To Kang - the oldest gold shop in Bangkok. It was founded by Tohkang Saetang, a Chinese immigrant, in the 1880s. It was the only gold shop in the Sampheng areas during the reign of Rama VI to be granted a royal appointment to use the Garuda emblem in 1921. Hua Seng Heng is one of the oldest and pioneering gold shops in Yaowarat. They have been selling gold since 1951, and today have about 5 branches – 4 of which are in Yaowarat, and 1 at Seacon Square, which sell jewelry as well as gold bars. http://www.goldpricethai.com/articles?fn_mode=fullnews&fn_id=6 i dont know what to make of this post as there's quotes and not reply. maybe try again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midas Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Tang To Kang - the oldest gold shop in Bangkok. It was founded by Tohkang Saetang, a Chinese immigrant, in the 1880s. It was the only gold shop in the Sampheng areas during the reign of Rama VI to be granted a royal appointment to use the Garuda emblem in 1921. Hua Seng Heng is one of the oldest and pioneering gold shops in Yaowarat. They have been selling gold since 1951, and today have about 5 branches – 4 of which are in Yaowarat, and 1 at Seacon Square, which sell jewelry as well as gold bars. http://www.goldpricethai.com/articles?fn_mode=fullnews&fn_id=6 i dont know what to make of this post as there's quotes and not reply. maybe try again Meanwhile Blackjack , I can't wait to hear your news about visiting Naam’s gold shop and you telling us how many minutes it took you to stock up. i.e. Whether you broke the record of 10 min or not that Naam claims is possible. If it's as easy as that maybe my friend in Bangkok will be tempted to make a special journey to Pattaya to stock up also bearing in mind how unsuccessful the trip to Hua Seng Heng was. I'm sure you will keep us up to date of your efforts to “ load up “. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackJack Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 no reply from him as to where the gold shop is and so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 no reply from him as to where the gold shop is and so yeah right, i'll give you name and address and tomorrow you are presenting the fairy tale that you were there, the shelves were empty and a cleaning lady was dusting them. don't insult my intelligence! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 i dont know what to make of this post as there's quotes and not reply.maybe try again reading and understanding that a quote can be a reply would help quite a bit. but perhaps that's too much to ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midas Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 no reply from him as to where the gold shop is and so ask him if he he would consider giving you the address any time during the next seven years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breadbin Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Now is not the time to buy gold of any sort. Unless it's a gift for a girl you want to bed. And then think carefully and don't give the gold over until after you bed her (a few times or more) to get value for money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackJack Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I am intersted in buying metals thats all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacnl2000 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 John D. Lui's Green Gold comes to mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackJack Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 no reply from him as to where the gold shop is and so ask him if he he would consider giving you the address any time during the next seven years she needs to change her meds me thinks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 the scorn of a woman and a goldbug's frustration... not to mention the wrath of a rice farmer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
churchill Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 All of the Gold the miners are at this time seen as absolute no hopers.... but that is baked in ....and so if if the Gold price rises these stocks could be up 100% in months Another of your half-baked ideas. GDXJ up around 20% GDX up around 15% SIL up around 10% since my half baked idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
churchill Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Gold miners sparkle as precious metal rallieshttp://www.examiner.com.au/story/1656199/gold-miners-sparkle-as-precious-metal-rallies/?cs=9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farang000999 Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 In the last 5 years gold miners are down 40% and the S+P is up 40% but I guess now someone will claim that miners are the hottest bull market around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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