Jai Dee Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 The People's Alliance insists on holding a rally on April 7th Leaders of the People's Alliance for Democracy (PAD) have insisted on holding a grand-scale rally on April 7th while giving caretaker Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra until the end of this month to withdraw from the position. PAD core leaders including media firebrand Sondhi Limthongkul, Major General Chamlong Srimuang and Mr. Pipob Thongchai met last night following Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra's announcement that he would not accept prime ministerial post when the House convenes next month. They agreed in the meeting that if Police Lt.-Col. Thaksin still assumes the caretaker's responsibilities after March 31st, they will call a big rally to protest the Prime Minister. The PAD also insists on organizing a major demonstration on April 7th as earlier scheduled although the demonstration on April 6th will be called off as a tribute to His Majesty the King. As for the Dharma Army led by Major General Chamlong which is staging a protest in front of the Government House, they dispersed this morning but confirmed they will continue checking Pol. Lt-Gen Thaksin within legal framework. And if the latter is found exploiting the position to push forward his policy campaign or using proxies to carry out the policy, the Dharma Army will renew the protest. Mr. Pipob Thongchai, another leader in the PAD, hailed Pol Lt-Col Thaksin's move as a good sign but said the latter still fails to unveil a political reform which is the major target of the demonstrators. Source: Thai National News Bureau Public Relations Department - 05 April 2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion76 Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 wil he step off for good, it's still a remaining question, what kind of role will he play?on the dark side, in the shade and still directing the new pm as a puppet? who knows? Someone will have to fund TRT's next election campaign and that someone will probably want some return on his investment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Dee Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 Mr. Somsak admits Mr. Banharn earlier knew the decision of caretaker premier to resign from his post Chart Thai Party Deputy Leader Somsak Prissana-nantakul (สมศักดิ์ ปริศนานันทกุล) stated that Chart Thai Party leader Banharn Silapa-archa (บรรหาร ศิลปอาชา) earlier acknowledged that caretaker Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra will make an announcement for not accepting the premier post since both leaders had a conversation via telephone earlier. Mr. Somsak has praised Pol. Lt. Gen. Thaksin for making this decision so as to end the social conflicts. He revealed that Dr. Thaksin and Mr. Banharn had a phone conversation on the 4th of April. Hence, his party leader already knew that such announcement would be made. He insisted that there are no conflicts in the concept of the three opposition parties and said that there will be a joint meeting between them today. The meeting would analyze the political situation. He confirmed that the Chart Thai Party will not send its candidates for the re-election unless the constitutional amendment is completed. Source: Thai National News Bureau Public Relations Department - 05 April 2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Dee Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 Md. Surapong insists PM Thaksin is taking a break and not resigning yet The Government Spokesperson, Md. Surapong Suebwonglee (สุรพงษ์ สืบวงศ์ลี), has stressed that Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra has not yet resign from the post, as he is only taking a break from politics. Md. Surapong said the Prime Minister has performed his duties in accordance with the statement he made at a television program on April 3rd. He said that Pol. Lt. Gen. Thaksin would like to safeguard national unity, and the Opposition has also accepted his decision without any condition. Therefore, it is the responsibility of the People’s Alliance for Democracy to analyze their actions. Md. Surapong stated that it is up to the Election Commission whether or not it would be able to assemble 500 MPs after April 23rd, and whether the parliamentary meeting will be able to take place in accordance with the constitution. Concerning the Prime Minister’s suggestion to establish the national government, the Government Spokesperson said the government has to monitor how the social issues will be dealt with. Furthermore, if all parties consent with the idea, the government is also ready to implement it. Source: Thai National News Bureau Public Relations Department - 05 April 2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backpack_thailand Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 Maybe TRT give Mr.T a "Senior Minister" post??? A slightly tongue-in-cheek comment I reckon, but I think it's actually a good idea. Thaksin would make a good Ambassador for Thailand as he has good standing in the west with Bush, Blair, the EU etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaoPo Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 (edited) WOOOOWWWW.... More than 10.400 views in some 24+ hours since topic started.... LaoPo Edited April 5, 2006 by LaoPo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johpa Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 Something I've said here for a long time and usually got shot down quickly for it. Many expats here are new here and just don't quite understand how truly f@#$ed up things were in Thailand before Thaksin was in office. I think he is better off now and he should wash his hands of all the whining bulls#itters who wanted him in so badly and now have turned on him. Chok dee Thailand, you're going to need it. Nuggets of truth in the above statement. Taksin is just one in a long line of corrupt politicians who run the country for their own personal enrichment. Although never overtly colonized in the same sense as Burma or India or Vietnam, many have described Thailand as having been internally colonized from within, with the ruling parties modeling their rule on European colonial models. For some reason the profits, based upon agricultural exports, just keep finding a way out of the country. Even profits from modern industries like telecommunications find their way out of the country. All the while a new generation of foreign sahibs and memsahibs enjoy a lifestyle unobtainable in their home countries. But instead of working in the sea trade, they tend to work in IT. Orwell's Burma Days is not that far removed from the life of many of the posters here. As the poster above notes, Taksin is better off now. I mean jeez, he just sold his company at a huge freaking profit, tax free mind you, and raised the bar for his successor to equal that feat. Alas, he most certainly will wash his hands of the whiners and take the bulk of his ill gotten profits elsewhere. The whiners fail to recognize that it is the system that is flawed and not the person of Taksin, although one might argue he is the worst since Thanom. But yes, as the poster noted, but for perhaps differing reasons, Thailand will need lots of chok dee, especially after the doggy doo doo really hits the fan upon the inevitable song kheeun sawaan at which point we may see a mass exodus the this younger generation of ex-pats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tettyan Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 The whiners fail to recognize that it is the system that is flawed and not the person of Taksin, although one might argue he is the worst since Thanom. But yes, as the poster noted, but for perhaps differing reasons, Thailand will need lots of chok dee, especially after the doggy doo doo really hits the fan upon the inevitable song kheeun sawaan at which point we may see a mass exodus the this younger generation of ex-pats. Amen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plus Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 (edited) Thaksin didn't personally bankroll all TRT's expenses - there were/are other major donors, too. He was simply controlling the way all of them worked together, and without him in charge they will most probably go separate ways and TRT will disintegrate. It might take a few months to see any clear signs, but it's rather inevitable. >>>>>>>> Out of 16 million people who voted for TRT how many were paid to vote? Some were paid directly, some were ordered by seniors or TRT canvassers, and some believed in the populist policies which are nothing more than vote buying on national scale - simple pork barrel politics - cheap healthcare, cheap loans, debt reduction - in exchange for a blank check to steal billions upon billions. That's how TRT voters described it themselves - he gave us a lot so we let him steal as much as he wants, we don't care about Shin. And the best part is it was their, people's money they were bought with in the first place. There should be a dedicated thread to TRT's vote buying machine. Once you deduct all these "bought" votes there will be very few left, much less than 16 mil, and that's why Thaksin's "victory" looks very very hollow in the face of millions of no votes cast in good conscience. >>>>>>>> As it was pointed earlier, there's a difference between what is legal and wht is real here in Thailand. Legally no one voted for Thaksin, but in reality they did. Equally votes of poor farmers have as much weight as educated Bangkokians, but in reality they don't, and while legally 16 mil is a victory, in reality it's not, and that's why Thaksin is leaving for the UK tonight instead of toasting his success. Old Lee of Singapore was once talkin on the issues of Thai democracy. He said that to have a working democracy you need strong middle class voters able to think for themselves, and then he rhetorically asked: "Do you have that in Thailand?" He's no champion of democracy in any sense of a word but you can't deny he hit the nail on the head here. If unscrupulous leader can find the way to manipulate poor voters to serve his own ends rather than the country - what's that democracy for then? Edited April 5, 2006 by Plus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 Thaksin didn't personally bankroll all TRT's expenses - there were/are other major donors, too. He was simply controlling the way all of them worked together, and without him in charge they will most probably go separate ways and TRT will disintegrate. It might take a few months to see any clear signs, but it's rather inevitable.>>>>>>>> Out of 16 million people who voted for TRT how many were paid to vote? Some were paid directly, some were ordered by seniors or TRT canvassers, and some believed in the populist policies which are nothing more than vote buying on national scale - simple pork barrel politics - cheap healthcare, cheap loans, debt reduction - in exchange for a blank check to steal billions upon billions. That's how TRT voters described it themselves - he gave us a lot so we let him steal as much as he wants, we don't care about Shin. And the best part is it was their, people's money they were bought with in the first place. There should be a dedicated thread to TRT's vote buying machine. Once you deduct all these "bought" votes there will be very few left, much less than 16 mil, and that's why Thaksin's "victory" looks very very hollow in the face of millions of no votes cast in good conscience. >>>>>>>> As it was pointed earlier, there's a difference between what is legal and wht is real here in Thailand. Legally no one voted for Thaksin, but in reality they did. Equally votes of poor farmers have as much weight as educated Bangkokians, but in reality they don't, and while legally 16 mil is a victory, in reality it's not, and that's why Thaksin is leaving for the UK tonight instead of toasting his success. Old Lee of Singapore was once talkin on the issues of Thai democracy. He said that to have a working democracy you need strong middle class voters able to think for themselves, and then he rhetorically asked: "Do you have that in Thailand?" He's no champion of democracy in any sense of a word but you can't deny he hit the nail on the head here. If unscrupulous leader can find the way to manipulate poor voters to serve his own ends rather than the country - what's that democracy for then? actually agree almost all, just I would replace the middle class with middle educated. i know a lot "poor" people in farangistan who are well educated and think a lot about the votes, as well I know a lot middle class (in matters of money) in farangistan who always vote the same whatever happens. It is more a education than a money thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bggg Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 Believe it or not they actually have radio and TV up in Issarn now. Very few people in the country do not have access to information anymore. The main reason the majority of Thais prefer TRT is because of what TRT is actually doing for them rather than any failure of access to information. LOL ... again you have missed current events .... the TV and Radio stations were towing the Government line all over the country. There were no broadcasts of the PAD rallies etc. There was almost 0 mention of the allegations against Thaksin. The broadcast media ((and until very recently the print media)) have been censored both from outside and from self-censorship due to the lawsuits brought against them by the Gov. [ Very strange, as we watch Thai TV live on the internet here in Australia and my Thai wife discussed Thai current events with her family up in Issarn during this alleged political black out period. The family up in Issarn seemed to be up with the news from what I could tell from the wifes feedback. Perhaps we are not subjected to the same political black outs as your Thai family is. However I would repeat what I have said earlier,-- for the up country Thais who make up the majority of the voting public, it is not some debatable technical point of law re corruption that influences their vote, but rather the candidates actual performance in serving those who put him in power. For the majority of Thai voters (who happen to be rural people) Thaksin and TRT is judged on physical results on the ground in the local community rather than intellectual debates over points of law. People in village #2 up in the boon docks dont care about the outcome of some court case re telco sales, but they they do care about a new reservoir to provide water during the dry season. The corruption allegations may or may not be true. Thais accept that just about all politicians are corrupt and so it is not a big factor in deciding votes. What does influence the voters is how the politicans serve the public while in office. The simple truth is that the TRT under Thaskin has served the majority of voters better than any other party and better than any other party has promised to do. The people have spoken, And they have spoken in elections in the past also. The majority of voters in Thailand want TRT. The law suits and allegations are a side issue to most Thai voters. They vote on what a politican can deliver to them rather than what bad things someone else says he might have done. If the opposition wants to get into power it needs to start serving the majority of voters who might put them into power instead of pandering to a minority of intellectuals in the city who want to seize power through the back door via civil unrest. Thailand has a long history of coups and dictaters brought into power by civil unrest . That is not the way things are supposed to work in a democracy. TRT will again no doubt win the next election simply because it does the most for the greatest number of voters. The opposition parties need to open their eyes and see that there is a whole country out there in Thailand outside of Bangkok. Thaksin did and it gave TRT a lead that the others will take a long time to catch up to. The biggest stumbling block to their PAD ideal and its supporters is democracy. Once they embrace democracy, they can start to attack corruption, but not before. Delivers or says he will deliver????? He pays them off. There are many rural areas that are up in arms over him pushing through his mega projects against what the locals want or need. He delivers.... debt by buying their votes with promises of money that incurrs debt they are not in a financial position to take on. To a poor person the promise of money sounds great until they realize they have no way to pay it back! I do not believe he has served the majority. He has given them "Lip Service" He has used their poverty to his advantage, plying them with money and promises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe beets Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 Thaksin didn't personally bankroll all TRT's expenses - there were/are other major donors, too. Thai Rak Thai donations exceeds 100 million baht BANGKOK, Dec 22 (TNA) - The ruling Thai Rak Thai (TRT) Party has received more than 100 million baht in donations for its political campaign this year, according to the Election Commission of Thailand (EC). In November alone, TRT received a 50 million-baht donation from Khun Ying Pojaman Shinawatra, the prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra’s wife. <SNIP> During the 2001 general election, Khun Ying Pojaman donated more than 100 million baht to the TRT. Technically, you're right, but this one sure walks like a duck and quacks lke a duck. Continuing... This sparked demands from pro-democracy groups to put a ceiling on each donor’s contribution to a political party in order to prevent any group or family dominating a political party. (TNA)--E112 Anyone care to guess how this proposal turned out? jb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 Believe it or not they actually have radio and TV up in Issarn now. Very few people in the country do not have access to information anymore. The main reason the majority of Thais prefer TRT is because of what TRT is actually doing for them rather than any failure of access to information. LOL ... again you have missed current events .... the TV and Radio stations were towing the Government line all over the country. There were no broadcasts of the PAD rallies etc. There was almost 0 mention of the allegations against Thaksin. The broadcast media ((and until very recently the print media)) have been censored both from outside and from self-censorship due to the lawsuits brought against them by the Gov. [ Very strange, as we watch Thai TV live on the internet here in Australia and my Thai wife discussed Thai current events with her family up in Issarn during this alleged political black out period. The family up in Issarn seemed to be up with the news from what I could tell from the wifes feedback. Perhaps we are not subjected to the same political black outs as your Thai family is. Ahhh Guess you missed the radio stations that were critical of the government that were closed ..... Guess you missed shows that were cancelled .... Guess you missed just about everything in Thailand. But nah ... the partner's family is in Nakhon Nayok (province borders Nakhon Ratchasime ... not isaan) They aren't subject to news blackouts ... they after all speak English ... they have online abilities and get the foriegn language newspapers. That could be why after voting TRT twice in the past they voted "No Vote" this time. Scroll back through the postings about newspapers sued ... shows cancelled etc.... sorry ... no more time to educate someone that just started finding out about this ... go back through the forums ... particularly the last year and 2 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seonai Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 BQQQ you are talking complete rubbish, mixing one thing with another. He did some good and some bad... everyone knows what he did for the "poor". Shit sometimes you guys have to get some knowledge behind you before you speak! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seonai Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 and if the academics get a chance to speak... what then.... let us educate the people.... ALL THE PEOPLE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seonai Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 (edited) GIVE ALL THE PEOPLE A CHANCE TO TALK... LET THEM BE EDUCATED Edited April 5, 2006 by seonai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britmaveric Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Yen Yen Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 A billionaire will be less corrupt than a bankrupt media mogul or a professional academic that's never held a real job. Something my g/f used to say: "He's so rich, he can't be in it for the money". What a darling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Yen Yen Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 Tell us what you think about these events, Jai Dee... His job is to report the news. End of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Yen Yen Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 bless the thai people for doing something about their dictator. now if only the farangs had the audacity to something about theirs in their countries... I'd happily get rid of Tony B Liar if I could, but there are too many uneducated folks who vote for the "pretty boy". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Yen Yen Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 I hope, that a few years down the line we won't be sitting here, and talking about how nice things were under Thaksin... Prophetic words! TIT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Yen Yen Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 hi... this post is just an example...of what i originally meant. is this not anti thai and totally disrespectful? come on guys you can do better than that - show some respect. amarka Dear Toxin, Please don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. Respect is something to be earned. I don't see the comment as anti-Thai at all.... it's anti-Thaksin. To clarify things more easily, here's an example of something anti-Thai: Tak Bai, 2004 Yeah, that's right. sriracha john This is anti-Thai -------------------------------------------------- Democrat leaders attacked in Chiang Mai Chairs, eggs and paint thrown at party chiefs as violent episode blights lead-up to Sunday's ballot Democrat Party leaders were attacked and pelted with chairs and a rally they had planned for Chiang Mai was cut short by road blockages and abusive behaviour in a concerted and highly effective campaign by supporters of Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra yesterday. The supporters thwarted the Democrat Party's key members at the airport, blocked the road to the rally venue and threw chairs, rotten eggs, paint and all manner of rubbish onto the stage when they tried to address the rally. About 100 Thaksin supporters in Chiang Mai, his home town, rushed to Chiang Mai National airport to protest the arrival of Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva, who was scheduled to fly in at 4pm for a speech at Chiang Mai University. The group went inside the terminal without waiting for weapons checking and held banners with messages condemning Abhisit and the party for boycotting the April 2 election. The Democrat leader was forced to evade the protesters by leaving the airport by a rear gate, which angered the protesters who shouted insults at Abhisit and threatened tourists who witnessed the incident. Another group of Thaksin supporters used their cars to block Nimmanahaeminda Road, where Chiang Mai University's Art Museum is located. Key members of the Democrat Party, including Abhisit, secretary-general Suthep Thaugsuban and senior adviser Chuan Leekpai were stopped from reaching the venue. The protesters also hung up effigies of the party's key members, as well as leaders of the People's Alliance for Democracy like Sondhi Limthongkul and Chamlong Srimuang and then burned them. Hundreds of people who wanted to attend the rally had to wait outside and on the streets around the museum. The rally eventually started at 6pm, with deputy leader Alongkorn Pollabutr as the first speaker. Only 40-50 people who managed to get into the venue before the roadblock was erected listened to him. More Democrat supporters later climbed a fence to get in. As Alongkorn was speaking, supporters of Thaksin verbally attacked him and the party, as well as the Chiang Mai audience, through amplifiers. Abhisit was finally able to get to the museum at 7.20pm. He was giving his speech and telling people why the party had boycotted Sunday's election when about 300 Thaksin supporters rushed the stage. They shouted at him and other party members . About 100 police and security officers tried to drive the protesters back, but failed and Abhisit had to end his speech 10 minutes later. The party's spokesman, Ong-art Klampaiboon, said the rally was cancelled and no plans made for a new one. Nobody was seriously hurt in the attack, he said, although Chuan was hit with a chair and deputy party leader Chaiwut Bannawat had to use his arms to protect himself from a thrown chair. Some of the protesters stayed in the art museum until 8pm, while some of the key Democrat members were still there. After the Democrat executives left, Prachuab Wangjai, editor and anchorman of the Nation Channel in Chiang Mai, was punched in the ear. Members of the audience who turned up to see the Democrat leaders were visibly shaken by the violence from the pro-Thaksin camp. A third-year medical student at the university broke down and cried, saying all she wanted was to hear some political information but instead had to deal with barbaric people. She did not understand why the protest had got out of control and why police had allowed it to. A university lecturer said it was not the kind of behaviour you would expect to see in Chiang Mai, so it was quite likely the protesters were hired from outside. She said it was an embarrassment for Chiang Mai people. This stuff is getting violent! Some folks are under the impression that PAD is anything but peaceful. Take away the one isolated incident on Sukimvit a few days ago where a guy was pushed around a bit and it is clear that PAD has been peaceful. Just looking at the first paragraph of the above article, and things are becoming clearer as who the antoginists and violent people are. Bombs found at various places where anti-Thaksin supporters are located. Caravan of the poor demanding that a person be physically handed over to them at the Nation. These are only a few that I mention. If violence continues to esculate, it isn't PAD. They've been very well restrained. source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2006/03/31...es_30000602.php -------------------------------------------------- ***** You have to watch this video clip ***** http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gwgo4E8BUXY&search=mungemo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn5_w5e8ydk&search=mungemo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQyrzo5VAqQ&search=mungemo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ID6D_yIfCOk...C7EC442&index=2 wow ! lets compete - who'll have more Quotes, long (with FULL text) / short / one-lined or one-smiliesed ... about OP : soooooooooo sad - Thaksin resigned ! the beloved character of sooooooo many threads and posts dedicated to him on TV - perhaps the #1 champion for being "bashed". surely he'll be missed, huh? I mean - who else would be able to get so much "bashing" (America doesn't count here - it is country, not a person; so is Thailand ! ) so, perhaps it is a time to start new "bashing" - of whoever would suceed Thaksin ? because he won't be on surface for too long now - as a caretacker only. now let's direct our enthusiasm on that lucky guy who'll get all the fire of fellow TV members from now on ! otherwise may be attendence on TV would drop dramatically (200+ people reading this thread - wow ! more than Rain.... I bet !) - if another candidate for bashing is not found very soon. suggestions please ! I've already made idea to start a poll - who'll be next after Thaksin. let's do it now ! and include there one of questions: would that person be bashed more than T. or not ? TV - rules ! If I can work out who said what here... yes, Sriracha John, respect is something to be earned and my quip was not anti-Thai but was definitely anti-Thaksin. I am a simple man and I cannot see how someone can make 70,000,000,000 baht by being "smart", or seeing "an opportunity" or knowing "the right people" or "getting a monopoly". However you view it, he made an obscene fortune out of Thailand and is keeping it all for himself. He could give 1,000 baht to every man, woman and child in Thailand and still walk away a rich man. Of course, many "westernised" farang living in Thailand will consider Thaksin's actions as those of someone with "nous" and will see nothing wrong with it. That's not how I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon999 Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 "Doctor" for receiving a PhD from a university in America yet possesses abilities in English that are surpassed by a typical Prathom 2 public school student.Probably best if we just all referred to him by the title that he prefers himself, "Maew" There are native English speakers who have abilities in English that are dreadful, however, it does not necessarily prevent them from being successful in business. As you are obviously so well educated maybe being less cynical would be a good place to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usatrader Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 There are native English speakers who have abilities in English that are dreadful, however, it does not necessarily prevent them from being successful in business.As you are obviously so well educated maybe being less cynical would be a good place to start. HEAR! HEAR!! Well said. In this day and age, of emphatic instant gratification, over conjectured opine and often as not misreported 24/7 media reporting, elitist pomposity and cynicism are apparently NOT mutually exclusive but are inbred in a codependency of EVERYBODY'S RIGHT AND NOBODY'S WRONG Egoism. It is the self made person(s), not made of self person(s), which should be admired and emulated. -Trader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amarka Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 hi... yes its easy to condemn... just wonder what Mr john does for a living or indeed what he has ever achieved.... amarka "Doctor" for receiving a PhD from a university in America yet possesses abilities in English that are surpassed by a typical Prathom 2 public school student. Probably best if we just all referred to him by the title that he prefers himself, "Maew" There are native English speakers who have abilities in English that are dreadful, however, it does not necessarily prevent them from being successful in business. As you are obviously so well educated maybe being less cynical would be a good place to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johpa Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 There are native English speakers who have abilities in English that are dreadful, however, it does not necessarily prevent them from being successful in business..... HEAR! HEAR!! Well said. In this day and age, of emphatic instant gratification, over conjectured opine and often as not misreported 24/7 media reporting, elitist pomposity and cynicism are apparently NOT mutually exclusive but are inbred in a codependency of EVERYBODY'S RIGHT AND NOBODY'S WRONG Egoism.[/size] Some postings become truthfully, and painfully, more self-evident more than others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usatrader Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 Some postings become truthfully, and painfully, more self-evident more than others Indeed they do, SEE-> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sriracha john Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 (edited) "Doctor" for receiving a PhD from a university in America yet possesses abilities in English that are surpassed by a typical Prathom 2 public school student. Probably best if we just all referred to him by the title that he prefers himself, "Maew" There are native English speakers who have abilities in English that are dreadful, however, it does not necessarily prevent them from being successful in business. As you are obviously so well educated maybe being less cynical would be a good place to start. hi...yes its easy to condemn... just wonder what Mr john does for a living or indeed what he has ever achieved.... amarka It's particularly easy to condemn someone when they've done so many things to be condemned for. What I have achieved is that I have managed to go through life without being responsible for the murder of 2,300 people in one situation and the deaths of 1,300 people in another. Quite a remarkable achievement, eh? Edited April 5, 2006 by sriracha john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Dee Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 Here's a bulletin that slipped through yesterday because the server was down: PM picks up his personal belongings at Govt. House Earlier this morning, Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra chaired the special meeting with his Cabinet members. Following the discussion, the premier traveled to Thai Koo Fah Building, to have a discussion with the core leaders of the Thai Rak Thai Party, including Deputy Leader Sudarat Keyuraphan, Secretary-General Suriya Jungrungreangkit, and Deputy Leader Newin Chidchob. Later on, Pol. Lt. Gen. Thaksin assigned the officials to get his personal belongings in the office, as he is prepared to leave the Government House. Source: Thai National News Bureau Public Relations Department - 05 April 2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manjara Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 Some postings become truthfully, and painfully, more self-evident more than others I may just be being cynical, but I believe that Johpa was trying to say was that Usatrader gets D- for his English. Thaksin may not speak perfect English, but perhaps he knows the meaning of the words he does use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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