self defence

[Trembly]

The primary law in Thailand is the law of relationships, not the law of the land. Therefore, the primary path for recourse is through relationships.

You need to find someone that your neighbour would truly greng-jai and induce that person to have a word with your neighbour. It really is that simple.

Ask your wife and her family about who might be in a position to command that level of greng-jai from your neighbour.

It could be the nai-amphur, the local politician, or some other obscure figure whose ire the neighbour dares not incur.

If you can't figure out how to do this within the letter of the law then god help you.

Edited July 21, 2013 by Trembly

[catweazle]

Sorry if I sound a bit annoyed, but there are people here, that instead of trying to help the thread starter just spend their time making up all kinds of false accusations.

Since this is so and we all know that the online world, especially forums are cruel places, where Trolls and other outcasts with too much time on their hands dwell, perhaps it was a mistake to search for help here in the first place... ?

You get my two cents a bit further back in this thread and they are my honest opinion and I believe they are the only three options you have. I am living permanently in Thailand for 22 years now and have seen and experienced a lot, believe me.

However - forums in general suck (not as much as facebook though) since as in your case, you might put fragments of your very private life on a silver plate for trolls, idiots, half wits and "experts" to devour. I myself have learned my lessons and knowing all this, I would never discuss problems like this in the open in a forum anymore, especially not ThaiVisa. When you browse through various old threads you will find a pattern:

1) The story, subject of the thread is online - let's say we have a possible criminal case with a dead child, an abusive father in custody and a devastated mother with her life breaking to pieces all around her.

2) Frst poster is the "hang 'em high!" type and demands justice.

3) 2nd poster is a Troll starting like "First we should establish that the father is really the culprit and guilty of the crime..."

4) 3rd poster nails it all on Thailand and bashes the Thais in general

5) 4th poster is kind of reasonable and sends an RIP for the girl and wishes that the mother some day will get over it.

6) to 212) Now follow: The bashing the Thai basher posts, Troll go home threats; several deleted off-topic and swear mails; posters blaming the mother; closet Sherlocks suspecting "more to the story than told"; a flock of members picking on the hang em high guy; a post of someone having lost the plot completely, babbling something unrelated that causes even more friction; some posters simply agreeing or disagreeing to certain posts with a lot of smiley icons used... And in the end - it all did not help anyone!!! The child will not rise from the dead and live again, the father will get a reduced sentence because he's the Pujai Baan's best drinking pal, the Troll still will troll around in forums, the closet Sherlocks look for another unsolved case, the Thai bashers still bash (but continue to live comfortably in Thailand), the senseless babblers and time wasters will still babble and waste other peoples' time, the editors search for yet another gruesome story to enable them to give the dog a bone and it all starts over and over again...

Why do I write all this?

Perhaps because it is time to attend to family, ourselves and true (in the flesh) friends and turn away from forums that - in the end - do not help at all to make this world a better place.

You could see in this thread what happens when you put your trust an your hopes into the hands of some Thai Forum geeks...

Listen to your heart and you will find all answers to any problem in your life in the person that knows you best: Yourself!

[tomacht8]

If your can not walk away and your Thai family decides to stay,
then you must stay with them and show some strength.
Try to become a member at a local sport shooting club.
Wear every day a extra large black Glock T-Shirt,
wear a big mobile phone or something legal, on the right backside under your T-Shirt.
No shorts and no flip flops, long jeans and black shoes are called for.
Let your neightbor think about this bulge, invite your club members for a drink/eat.
Show your neighbor that you have relationships with local VIP's.
Buy some red Walkie Talkies, same the police use. Put them in the shops and one in your car.
Do not provoke your neighbor directly, but try to train a thai like superior smile.
CCTV is also a must. Try to visit the store of your wife not regularly clockwise.

When you come to the shop for a visit and with whom you come, must be always a surprising.
And smile. Show that there are no problems, but show also that this is your home and you are able
to defend your family. Do not stick in your shop like a mouse in a hole with a cat infront.

Unfortunately, some people understand only the language of the fittest.
Good luck.

Edited July 21, 2013 by tomacht8

[farang000999]

Why would OP, a farang feel like he needs to handle the situation? The Thais around him need him to do something? What is this, the god father? Are you the second coming of Micheal Corleone? Your wife's family is very wealthy and the 75 year old father was beaten but your wife's family is too scared to do anything? You are either trolling or delusional. Just stay out of it before you get yourself hurt and we are seeing you on the news.

Edited July 21, 2013 by farang000999

[farang000999]

If your can not walk away and your Thai family decides to stay,

then you must stay with them and show some strength.

Try to become a member at a local sport shooting club.

Wear every day a extra large black Glock T-Shirt,

wear a big mobile phone or something legal, on the right backside under your T-Shirt.

No shorts and no flip flops, long jeans and black shoes are called for.

Let your neightbor think about this bulge, invite your club members for a drink/eat.

Show your neighbor that you have relationships with local VIP's.

Buy some red Walkie Talkies, same the police use. Put them in the shops and one in your car.

Do not provoke your neighbor directly, but try to train a thai like superior smile.

CCTV is also a must. Try to visit the store of your wife not regularly clockwise.

When you come to the shop for a visit and with whom you come, must be always a surprising.

And smile. Show that there are no problems, but show also that this is your home and you are able

to defend your family. Do not stick in your shop like a mouse in a hole with a cat infront.

Unfortunately, some people understand only the language of the fittest.

Good luck.

Don't forget to wear a head bandana like Rambo everywhere you go.

[farang000999]

I imagine the FIL is telling his friends, "Don't worry, my farang SIL who can barely speak English is consulting the farang expat population on the best course of action for our upper class family to take. Thank god we have him around!"

Edited July 21, 2013 by farang000999

[tomacht8]

"You are either trolling or delusional."

The OP asks for help and advice for his situation. But to label him as a troll or delusional I find inappropriate. Even well-intentioned advice to comment sarcastically I find also inappropriate.

Edited July 21, 2013 by tomacht8

[malcoml]

You could do what a farang did in our area which was buy a hand gun and wave it in the air the next time you see them. The only problem was the guy he waved it at was a plain clothes police officer.

All jokes aside I would think half the Thai shop holders have one dispute or another with other shops. Ignore it and give it a bit of time and they will stop.

The fact the police have become involved should bring a stop to it.

[kriswillems]

Update: since the conflict we had 3 days ago (me telling him to stop the harassment of the employees, him calling the mafia, we calling the police), things have been improved. He stopped annoying our employees. It could be the calm before the storm, but I don't think so.

farang000999, I know my English is not good. I am sorry for that. Next time I'll communicate with you in my native language or in Thai. That will make things much easier for you.

Edited July 22, 2013 by kriswillems

[farang000999]

Update: since the conflict we had 3 days ago (me telling him to stop the harassment of the employees, him calling the mafia, we calling the police), things have been improved. He stopped annoying our employees. It could be the calm before the storm, but I don't think so.

What makes you think you know anything about the way a Thai drug dealer thinks or acts or what he is plotting next? Your story is so crazy and all over the place I have to wonder if you are on yaba yourself.

[Pops]

Most of them just say that we should try not to escalate the problem, which I am not planning. (But, they should stop annoying the employers.)

Look which motorcycle club they are with, see which MC they have a non friendly relationship with and than hire a member of this non friendly motorcycle club as an employee of your shop.

Problem solved !

[kriswillems]

Update: the problem is solved.

They are in jail (probably got caught selling drugs) and will not come out for a long time.

[Ajaan]

Threads like this one make me want to puke. It really comes out--not just from the highly questionable, "sketchy" dealings and rantings of the OP, but also the responses, many of them calling for VIOLENCE and thuggery in thinly veiled ways--how many low-life, thug, outlaw farangs there are in Thailand in general and on Thaivisa in particular.

Once you decide to live by the jungle law of the Thai thugs (which obviously mirrors the way many of you lived in your home countries, probably in many cases causing you to flee the law there), you deserve everything you get. I wish we could just dump all of you on an island and let you slowly do away with each other with your macho hoodlum prancing and preening and use of violence as an answer to all problems.