you lock it they pich it

[meatboy]

what the wf.has been telling me the last week or 2 is that gangs are working supermarket car parks stealing cars by useing a remote control to interfere with yours when you think you have locked it.i saw a report of one stolen from tesco here in korat but have seen no reports from car manufactors.i know in the uk.each key has a unique code and if you lose it it cost big time.so what is the score here in thailand as it sounds like these key fobs are the same as the bomb detectors.[crap]

[keemapoot]

Yeah, I saw that report this morning on channel 3 news too. There was another thread on here recently about this. It's the latest scam to steal your car or break into it and steal the contents. You can no longer walk away from your car after thinking it's locked using the remote. You have to check the door handle first to ensure it's locked. The device they use interferes with the RF signal to prevent the locking of the car, as simple as that.

[899cc]

• Use your key problem solved...

[4evermaat]

• Use your key problem solved...

actually, keyless is better in that it reduces wear on the keyhole and reduces your chance of breaking the key in the lock.

But it should be done standing near the car so you can verify the locks are in place.

"...the 2nd best time to plant a tree is today." Sent from ThaiVisa app (Galaxy Note 2).

[stevenl]

• Use your key problem solved...

actually, keyless is better in that it reduces wear on the keyhole and reduces your chance of breaking the key in the lock.

But it should be done standing near the car so you can verify the locks are in place.

"...the 2nd best time to plant a tree is today." Sent from ThaiVisa app (Galaxy Note 2).

Reduces wear on the key hole? Before the remote era there was no wear on the keyhole, why should there be now? Breaking the key in the lock? Same story.

[mogandave]

After having four vehicles stolen (including a sweet ’68 Ford F-100 Ranger with a 390 I had hundreds of hours of labor in) and a number of break-ins, my advice is to: 1. not drive something that can’t be easily replaced, 2. don’t leave valuables or items with sentimental value in the vehicle, and 3. buy good insurance.

[mogandave]

• Use your key problem solved...

actually, keyless is better in that it reduces wear on the keyhole and reduces your chance of breaking the key in the lock.

But it should be done standing near the car so you can verify the locks are in place.

"...the 2nd best time to plant a tree is today." Sent from ThaiVisa app (Galaxy Note 2).

Reduces wear on the key hole? Before the remote era there was no wear on the keyhole, why should there be now? Breaking the key in the lock? Same story.

A well maintained lock rarely wear out, but they do wear. Also, the paint around the hole gets dicked up by the other keys and when you…uhhh…miss the hole.

Also, a big, heavy key ring hanging in the ignition can wear it out.

[stevenl]

• Use your key problem solved...

actually, keyless is better in that it reduces wear on the keyhole and reduces your chance of breaking the key in the lock.

But it should be done standing near the car so you can verify the locks are in place.

"...the 2nd best time to plant a tree is today." Sent from ThaiVisa app (Galaxy Note 2).

Reduces wear on the key hole? Before the remote era there was no wear on the keyhole, why should there be now? Breaking the key in the lock? Same story.

A well maintained lock rarely wear out, but they do wear. Also, the paint around the hole gets dicked up by the other keys and when you…uhhh…miss the hole.

Also, a big, heavy key ring hanging in the ignition can wear it out.

The latter, yes, that could and can still be a problem. But keys wearing out the lock or breaking the key in the lock, no.

[transam]

• Use your key problem solved...

actually, keyless is better in that it reduces wear on the keyhole and reduces your chance of breaking the key in the lock.

But it should be done standing near the car so you can verify the locks are in place.

"...the 2nd best time to plant a tree is today." Sent from ThaiVisa app (Galaxy Note 2).

Reduces wear on the key hole? Before the remote era there was no wear on the keyhole, why should there be now? Breaking the key in the lock? Same story.

Sorry but door locks do wear with much use, and in the end it is possible for a clone key to open it. Was my job once, noooooooooo, not breaking into cars but sorting it.

[billd766]

Many years ago I was at a motorway service area with my mate using 2 different cars.

We locked both cars by the remote and took a break.

Back at the car I unlocked mine by the remote and he unlocked his and onother about 20 metres away. 3 times he tried it and 3 times got the same result.

In the end we just drove away and left the other car.

There may be many combinations but it is a finite number and then repeated.

[mogandave]

I’m not trying to make an argument to not use your keys, but to say they don’t wear is just not true, everything wears.

I’ve never had a key wear such that it would not open the lock, but I have had them so worn that a duplicate made from the key would not work. I’ve also had several cars with broken off keys stuck in the locks.

[stevenl]

I’m not trying to make an argument to not use your keys, but to say they don’t wear is just not true, everything wears.

I’ve never had a key wear such that it would not open the lock, but I have had them so worn that a duplicate made from the key would not work. I’ve also had several cars with broken off keys stuck in the locks.

Of course they wear, that is not the issue. But to claim 'better not use your keys because it will damage the locks, is simply not true.

[mogandave]

I’m not trying to make an argument to not use your keys, but to say they don’t wear is just not true, everything wears.

I’ve never had a key wear such that it would not open the lock, but I have had them so worn that a duplicate made from the key would not work. I’ve also had several cars with broken off keys stuck in the locks.

Of course they wear, that is not the issue. But to claim 'better not use your keys because it will damage the locks, is simply not true.

In all fairness, I don't think anyone said that.

[stevenl]

I’m not trying to make an argument to not use your keys, but to say they don’t wear is just not true, everything wears.

I’ve never had a key wear such that it would not open the lock, but I have had them so worn that a duplicate made from the key would not work. I’ve also had several cars with broken off keys stuck in the locks.

Of course they wear, that is not the issue. But to claim 'better not use your keys because it will damage the locks, is simply not true.

In all fairness, I don't think anyone said that.

More or less with this comment: "actually, keyless is better in that it reduces wear on the keyhole and reduces your chance of breaking the key in the lock."

But we're going off topic here about a side issue at best.

[VocalNeal]

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actually, keyless is better in that it reduces wear on the keyhole and reduces your chance of breaking the key in the lock.

WHAT? How did people manage for the last 50 years? Nonsense.

[Jerry Cornelius]

Yeah, I saw that report this morning on channel 3 news too. There was another thread on here recently about this. It's the latest scam to steal your car or break into it and steal the contents. You can no longer walk away from your car after thinking it's locked using the remote. You have to check the door handle first to ensure it's locked. The device they use interferes with the RF signal to prevent the locking of the car, as simple as that.

Yes it's common sense and a worthwhile effort to physically check your car is locked before leaving it behind.

However if you use a remote key-fob to lock the car and the annunciator associated with the locking of the vehicle operates (horn sounding/indicators flashing etc.) then it is locked.

An rf signal can be used to jam the carrier frequency of your remote, but it cannot alter with the internal operation of the locking mechanism which responds to the transmitted pcm of your remote.

Jerry

[keemapoot]

Yeah, I saw that report this morning on channel 3 news too. There was another thread on here recently about this. It's the latest scam to steal your car or break into it and steal the contents. You can no longer walk away from your car after thinking it's locked using the remote. You have to check the door handle first to ensure it's locked. The device they use interferes with the RF signal to prevent the locking of the car, as simple as that.

Yes it's common sense and a worthwhile effort to physically check your car is locked before leaving it behind.

However if you use a remote key-fob to lock the car and the annunciator associated with the locking of the vehicle operates (horn sounding/indicators flashing etc.) then it is locked.

An rf signal can be used to jam the carrier frequency of your remote, but it cannot alter with the internal operation of the locking mechanism which responds to the transmitted pcm of your remote.

Jerry

Yes, of course you are right, and it is safe to visually look at your car observing the flashing of the lights or whatever signal after using the remote, but the problem with some cars is a completely silent operation hence the need with those cars to check the handles. For example, one of my cars has the annunciator which shows the car is unlocked by remote by flashing the lights, but upon locking shows no such signal, however there is a slightly perceptible clunk of the lock.

[transam]

My Vigo makes a loud audible noise from each door lock doing it's stuff.

[mogandave]

My Isuzu has good insurance.

[muratremix]

My car has different sound and flash of lights in locking car and unlocking it. This is kind of verification what you just have done with doors using remote. Perhaps somebody should teach Thais how to use it? And perhaps teach them to open short lights (not parking lights!) in heavy rain and reduced visibility and after 6:30 pm.