DNA tests show Thai monk Wirapol 'Luang Pu Nenkham' fathered child

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DNA tests show monk fathered child
The Nation



BANGKOK: -- DNA tests have confirmed that Wirapol Sukphol, previously known as Luang Pu Nenkham, indeed fathered a boy with a woman who was a minor at the time.

"This test result will be used as evidence in both civil and criminal cases against him," Central Institute of Forensic Science director Dr Anek Yomchinda said yesterday.

Wirapol - then a monk - drew a lot of public attention this year after photographs showing him on a private plane, wearing sunglasses and carrying designer bags, appeared on the Internet. He fled overseas in the wake of the scandal.

Further investigation revealed that Wirapol had engaged in dubious behaviour, including the statutory rape of a minor. In his absence, senior monks decided to terminate his monkhood.

"The test results confirm the claims of the woman who says she had a sexual relationship with the former monk that he is the father of her son," Anek said yesterday. He added that traces of Wirapol's saliva left on a cigar were used for the DNA tests, which he said were 99.99 per cent accurate.

Earlier, Wirapol's brother tried to claim that he was the father of the child. "There is no need to conduct a DNA test on the brother now," Anek said.

Since there is now evidence that Wirapol had a sexual relationship with a minor, he will face the charge of statutory rape.


-- The Nation 2013-08-23

[theblether]

Deliver the evidence to the US authorities and request his extradition. The US cannot harbor this man especially in light of this allegation. The US was ( still is ) the leading light against the war on peadophilia in Thailand and they deserve all credit for that. In light of this allegation they have to go find him, get him into custody, and get him sent back to Thailand.

[ignis]

No idea what the US authorities have to do with this ?

He left the USA weeks ago, thought I read he was in Laos a week ago

[theblether]

I wasn't aware that he had moved, I was under the impression his location was unknown, last seen in the US. Apologies.

[NongKhaiKid]

Deliver the evidence to the US authorities and request his extradition. The US cannot harbor this man especially in light of this allegation. The US was ( still is ) the leading light against the war on peadophilia in Thailand and they deserve all credit for that. In light of this allegation they have to go find him, get him into custody, and get him sent back to Thailand.

A few days back in was reported extradition proceedings would commence but it's been said before and nothing. What Tarit says and what he does can be world's apart.

If the evidence is sufficient all this foot dragging reflects no credit whatsoever meanwhile he can get publicity by holding media calls to produce evidence that should be sub judice.

What's the point of proving all sorts of things against the fugitive and doing nothing o bring him back ?

[NongKhaiKid]

No idea what the US authorities have to do with this ?

He left the USA weeks ago, thought I read he was in Laos a week ago

Yes, read that too but Tarit's last announcement seemed to suggest they would seek extradition from the US.

Is it they don't actually know where he is or don't want to know ?

[ignis]

I wasn't aware that he had moved, I was under the impression his location was unknown, last seen in the US. Apologies.

5th August in the paper we cannot quote from.. www.bangkokpost.com

on the 7th was this http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/658783-fugitive-ex-monk-wirapol-in-laos-may-surrender/

[DocN]

What an utter scumbag!

[MaxLee]

A case for the DSI and another arrest warrant sponsored by Khao-San road is added to the collection

And the victim gets nothing...

And the moral of the story is

If you want to get rich and get away with crime, become a monk, because Karma will bless you

If you are the son former Ms. Universe, no problem, smash your car into innocent people, pay compensation, go to the temple for a year, things forgotten....

[jaltsc]

The new sex education. "Now children, you get a blue piece of poster board. You draw squares and circles and then draw arrows connecting all the squares and circles. That is where babies come from."

Unfortunately, most of the people who should be laughing at the above explanation are taking it seriously and believe it to be factual

[greg71]

A case for the DSI and another arrest warrant sponsored by Khao-San road is added to the collection

And the victim gets nothing...

And the moral of the story is

If you want to get rich and get away with crime, become a monk, because Karma will bless you

If you are the son former Ms. Universe, no problem, smash your car into innocent people, pay compensation, go to the temple for a year, things forgotten....

Victim ? You do realise she come foward after 11 years of waiting remember .Somethings very fishy about this whole deal.Im not talking about the untold wealth either

[Misterwhisper]

"Earlier, Wirapol's brother tried to claim that he was the father of the child. 'There is no need to conduct a DNA test on the brother now,' Anek said."

The younger brother not only "tried" to claim that he was the child's father, he did claim it - and not sheepishly either, but during a high-profile press conference.

Now it's time to go after the brother as well, because he clearly - and knowingly! - gave a false statement and thus attempted to obstruct the course of justice.

And nab the parents, too, while we're at it. They bluntly refused to give DNA samples - and they knew exactly why. If they had been convinced that their son was entirely innocent, there would've been no reason for them to refuse a DNA sample.

[Considered Opinion]

Deliver the evidence to the US authorities and request his extradition. The US cannot harbor this man especially in light of this allegation. The US was ( still is ) the leading light against the war on peadophilia in Thailand and they deserve all credit for that. In light of this allegation they have to go find him, get him into custody, and get him sent back to Thailand.

Where on God's earth, did Paedophilia come up? And for goodness sake get your spelling right. The girl was 14 at the time. Hardly paedophilia.

[americaninbangkok]

I am dying to know what is on the poster in the picture. It looks like a young student's first school project where they just cut things out and glue them onto poster board. But in this case, there are two serious looking adult men in suits acting as if they've just solved the crime of the century using what appears to be a basic schematic of a computer network. Bravo!

And the poor woman in the back...she's going to show this picture to all her friends and say: I'm the one eyeball behind the blue poster board... I'm famous!

[Mole]

Looks like he's pointing at that non-digital powerpoint presentation. So it must be true!

[TackyToo]

Wear a saffron robe, collect free food and donations, become invisible and untouchable and enjoy a special bonus: reserved seats in the public transport system.

[TackyToo]

A case for the DSI and another arrest warrant sponsored by Khao-San road is added to the collection

And the victim gets nothing...

And the moral of the story is

If you want to get rich and get away with crime, become a monk, because Karma will bless you

If you are the son former Ms. Universe, no problem, smash your car into innocent people, pay compensation, go to the temple for a year, things forgotten....

Victim ? You do realise she come foward after 11 years of waiting remember .Somethings very fishy about this whole deal.Im not talking about the untold wealth either

Would you speak up against a monk, escorted by police on his roadshows and backed by the rich and powerful in return for fishy financial transactions? Think twice!

[edwinchester]

Deliver the evidence to the US authorities and request his extradition.  The US cannot harbor this man especially in light of this allegation. The US was ( still is ) the leading light against the war on peadophilia in Thailand and they deserve all credit for that. In light of this allegation they have to go find him, get him into custody, and get him sent back to Thailand. 

 

Where on God's earth, did Paedophilia come up? And for goodness sake get your spelling right. The girl was 14 at the time. Hardly paedophilia.

But it's still wrong for an adult in a position of power to have sex and father a baby with a child of 14 right?

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[robblok]

Deliver the evidence to the US authorities and request his extradition. The US cannot harbor this man especially in light of this allegation. The US was ( still is ) the leading light against the war on peadophilia in Thailand and they deserve all credit for that. In light of this allegation they have to go find him, get him into custody, and get him sent back to Thailand.

Where on God's earth, did Paedophilia come up? And for goodness sake get your spelling right. The girl was 14 at the time. Hardly paedophilia.

But it's still wrong for an adult in a position of power to have sex and father a baby with a child of 14 right?

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It is wrong... but people keep calling things like that pedophilia when it is not.

[edwinchester]

 

 

Deliver the evidence to the US authorities and request his extradition.  The US cannot harbor this man especially in light of this allegation. The US was ( still is ) the leading light against the war on peadophilia in Thailand and they deserve all credit for that. In light of this allegation they have to go find him, get him into custody, and get him sent back to Thailand. 

 

Where on God's earth, did Paedophilia come up? And for goodness sake get your spelling right. The girl was 14 at the time. Hardly paedophilia.

 

But it's still wrong for an adult in a position of power to have sex and father a baby with a child of 14 right?

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It is wrong... but people keep calling things like that pedophilia when it is not. 

That's because they don't understand the strict definition of 'paedophile'. What I find strange is that some people will quibble over whether the correct word is used and totally ignore the fact this scumbag has sex with a 14 year old and fathers a child and disowns them both which are despicable acts.

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[MaxLee]

DNA tests show monk fathered child

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-- The Nation 2013-08-23

Picture perfect, a job well done case closed, hide your kids under the table it's too obbbbsceeeene

[Falcon]

Personally I find all this a farce. At the end of the day, no matter how a person feels, monks are humans with human feelings. We know some very nice people who are monks and also a lot of people who have become monks who aren't so nice. Lets face it, people become monks for all types of reasons, even becoming a monk for a single day to bring good grace to the family or when a family member dies. We as humans always want the best for ourselves and our families in life, monks are no different. This is basically just a face saving exercise by the authorities because the pictures were viewed globally, if it were not, there would be nothing said about it. He is certainly not alone in making money for himself whilst serving as a monk, there are many others making money every day in one way or another whilst serving as a monk. If he can make something for himself without hurting anyone we then I say good luck to him. As for the girl who came forward 11 years later when she knew that he had money, I wonder if she had told the child who his/her father was when they asked as, at 11 years old he/she is bound to have asked, or did the mother. Not think of he child's feelings and just thought of the money?

[NCFC]

I bet the grandmother is celebrating today.

[kimamey]

Deliver the evidence to the US authorities and request his extradition. The US cannot harbor this man especially in light of this allegation. The US was ( still is ) the leading light against the war on peadophilia in Thailand and they deserve all credit for that. In light of this allegation they have to go find him, get him into custody, and get him sent back to Thailand.

Where on God's earth, did Paedophilia come up? And for goodness sake get your spelling right. The girl was 14 at the time. Hardly paedophilia.

I think the OP is correct in claiming statutory rape but sex with a minor may also apply but it does depend on the jurisdiction and I don't know that much about the laws in Thailand. It's true that the US amongst others does do a lot against paedophilia so it may well take a similar attitude with statutory rape and sex with a minor. This may explain the reports that he's no longer in the US and may be in Lao instead.

I know it's just a misuse of the word paedophilia and in this case it isn't directly being used to describe the alleged act so it's not a big problem. Where I do think it's wrong is where it's incorrectly used to describe an act, often as part of a wild rant against paedophiles with little concern for the details and seriousness of the crime. To be fair this is an attitude that is common with many newspapers; at least in the UK. If you have a view worth giving it encourages more respect if you give the impression that you at least understand the terminology used.

It's worth remembering that paedophilia itself isn't a crime and may be quite widespread.

This man certainly seems to have many questions to answer although it's probable that many, apart from fathering this child will not be related to criminal offences but more more likely about his morals or lack of them. The same is the case for those who saw what he was doing and had the opportunity to try to stop it but did nothing.

Edited August 23, 2013 by kimamey

[mikebell]

"Earlier, Wirapol's brother tried to claim that he was the father of the child. 'There is no need to conduct a DNA test on the brother now,' Anek said."

Maybe both brothers were at it?

[newermonkey]

Deliver the evidence to the US authorities and request his extradition. The US cannot harbor this man especially in light of this allegation. The US was ( still is ) the leading light against the war on peadophilia in Thailand and they deserve all credit for that. In light of this allegation they have to go find him, get him into custody, and get him sent back to Thailand.

I understood he is hiding out in Cambodia, but who knows where he is, just like his ex-politician friend also MIA!!! Thai authorities seem to have a problem in reeling them in every time.

[theblether]

The girl was below the age of consent in Thailand when she was impregnated, even in the eyes of the Thai authorities she was a child. I know the debate about the proper use of the word paedophilia, in connection whether it applies to prepubescent or pubescent children. The other word applied to sexual interest in a pubescent child is Hebephilia. That is regarded as a sub condition of Paedophilia by some. Hebephilia applies to sexual interest in children aged 11-14. There's even more medical terms in place as regards to age groups.

The common connotation of the word though is sex with minors. Forgive me regular members of the public if we adopt just the one word to describe adult men that have sex with children, and that word is paedophile. This was a guy aged about mid 20's having intercourse with a minor.

You will also note that the age of consent in Thailand is different for Thai nationals and foreigners. That is to take into account cultural differences on behalf of the Thais, and compliance in general with the Western age of consent. If a 25 year old westerner showed up here and was arrested for having sex with a 14 year old the headline wouldn't scream "Hebephile Arrested".

I am correct in stating that the US led the war against foreign paedophiles visiting Thailand. They effectively forced a change in Thai law, and rightly so. I don't know why you would be irritated at that statement. People should know that it was the US that led the way and they should be lauded for it.

Obviously that wouldn't be the case for paedophiles which are masters at trying to obsfucate and muddy the waters.

[Dr Strange]

Deliver the evidence to the US authorities and request his extradition. The US cannot harbor this man especially in light of this allegation. The US was ( still is ) the leading light against the war on peadophilia in Thailand and they deserve all credit for that. In light of this allegation they have to go find him, get him into custody, and get him sent back to Thailand.

Where on God's earth, did Paedophilia come up? And for goodness sake get your spelling right. The girl was 14 at the time. Hardly paedophilia.

In the eyes of the law, she is a child. In the eyes of the law, he is an adult. An adult having sex with a child is paedophilia. And that's without even starting on the breach of trust issues

[theblether]

Deliver the evidence to the US authorities and request his extradition. The US cannot harbor this man especially in light of this allegation. The US was ( still is ) the leading light against the war on peadophilia in Thailand and they deserve all credit for that. In light of this allegation they have to go find him, get him into custody, and get him sent back to Thailand.

I understood he is hiding out in Cambodia, but who knows where he is, just like his ex-politician friend also MIA!!! Thai authorities seem to have a problem in reeling them in every time.

Yup, my mistake, I missed the report that he had left the US already. If that was / is the case it was a missed opportunity by the Thais to have him arrested.

[Dr Strange]

You can define a paedophile as someone with a psychiatric disorder recognised in the DSM, or you can define them as someone who has sex with children. One is a medical definition, one is a societal one. Whether this scumbag fits into definition 1, I have no idea, but he ticks the boxes for number 2.