Krabi Special Report: One fateful night at the Longhorn Saloon

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Phuket Special Report: One fateful night at the Longhorn Saloon
Phuket Gazette


The scene of the stabbing brawl, the Little Longhorn Saloon in Ao Nang, Krabi. Photo: Kritsada Mueanhawong

SPECIAL REPORT

POLICE promptly arrested three Thai musicians for the stabbing murder of American tourist Bobby Ray Carter Jr and the assault of his 27-year-old son in Krabi four weeks ago yesterday. Since then, however, the case has slowed to a crawl. A trial date has yet to be set, police have yet to press formal charges and all three suspects are out on bail. The Gazette’s Chutharat Plerin reports.

PHUKET: -- Krabi Police arrived at the Little Longhorn Saloon bar in Ao Nang at about 1:30am on July 31 to find blood spattered on the ground and reports that two foreigners had been seriously injured in a brawl with three band members at the venue.

One of the foreigners, 51-year-old American tourist Bobby Ray Carter Jr, had suffered deep stab wounds. His son, Adam, 27, had also been hurt in the fracas, suffering serious head injuries and a stab wound to the arm. Both had been rushed to hospital.

Bobby Carter was pronounced dead soon after arriving at Krabi Hospital.

The three band members –Ratikorn Romin,27, from Phang Nga; Nopanan Yoddecha, 26, from Krabi; and Sathid Somsa, 40,from Bangkok – did not flee the scene and were immediately arrested.

Hours later at Krabi Town Police Station, all three accepted charges related to brawling, but denied any intent to kill.

“We accept that we attacked them, but we didn’t intend to kill anyone,” Mr Ratikorn said in his statement to police.

“The father and son came to the pub and they joined us singing on the stage. Then we had an argument with them because they refused to stop singing when the time was up.

“The father knocked our tip-box to the floor. We left the stage and sat [outside] in front of the bar… After a while they came outside and started another argument with us. The father knocked me to the ground first, and I could not breathe because he was sitting on my chest.

“Then I spotted a sharp piece of metal nearby, so I grabbed it and stabbed him,” Mr Ratikorn said.

All three suspects were charged with inflicting bodily harm causing the death and assault. Mr Sathid was also charged with possession of an illegal firearm after he was found at the scene with a homemade gun.

Despite the fast initial action by police, however, the case has now drawn out beyond expectations and the initial murder charges by police have been rounded down to manslaughter.

“The three suspects have now been charged with causing death by inflicting injury upon the body of such person without intent to cause death,” Krabi Town Police Deputy Superintendent Noppadol Mukda confirmed this week.

“We are now collecting more evidence so we can hand over the case to the Public Prosecutor as soon as possible,” he added.

“The suspects have not been formally charged in court. So far they have only been presented with police charges,” Lt Col Noppadol said.

“We have also yet to find the weapon,” he added.

In order to continue their investigation, police were forced to hand the suspects over to the court, which subsequently granted all three bail.

“Police can detain the suspects only 48 hours before we must release them, so we asked the court to take them into custody. The court then granted them bail. That was the court’s decision,” Col Noppadol explained.

Officers at Krabi Court declined to reveal over the phone any information regarding the bail posted by the three suspects, including how much bail was posted or who may have provided a good behavior surety.

However, an officer at the court’s bail division explained, “Bail is normally set at 500,000 baht for murder suspects, and at about 180,000 baht for assault causing death.”

Krabi Provincial Police Commander Nantadech Yoinuan supported the court’s decision.

“The fact that the suspects had not fled the scene and had made partial confessions stood in their favor. That is why the court granted them bail,” he said.

To expedite proceedings, Bobby Ray’s son, Adam, was permitted to give his statement to the court on August 5-7 and then return home to Dallas, Texas.

However, Krabi Provincial Police Deputy Commander Col Boontawee Toraksa declined to relate to the Gazette any statements given by Adam.

TRANSLATORS

Adam’s pre-trial testimony also raised the issue of which translators may be used in giving evidence, as the suspects refused a translator provided by the US Embassy in Bangkok.

“They had the right to refuse the translator, whether or not it postponed proceedings,” Col Noppadol explained.

“As they were out on bail and the trial had not yet begun, they were asked to attend the sessions during which Adam gave his testimony. We could not force them,” he said.

“The suspects were concerned the version of events relayed by the translator provided by the embassy would not be entirely accurate. However, they agreed to use a translator provided by the court,” he added.

Suspects must accept a provided court translator, but if a court translator is not available, they can demand to have one they deem appropriate, Col Noppadol explained.

“If everyone agrees, proceedings may go ahead and will be recognized by the court,” he said.

“However, every person has the right to have a translator present to assist in understanding evidence presented to the court,” he said.

Krabi TAT office Director Wiyada Srirangkul confirmed that the TAT Krabi office does offer to provide translators for foreigners involved in criminal cases, a development that arose from the case of a Dutch female tourist who was allegedly raped in Ao Nang late last year. The case made international headlines following the posting of the YouTube music video “Evil Man from Krabi”.

“We provide translators for tourists at the request of the tourists themselves or of their embassies. However, we did not provide a translator for Adam because the US embassy decided to handle it,” she said.

NO PRESSURE

In bringing the case to trial, the public prosecutor in charge explained to the Phuket Gazette that police have 84 days from the day the suspects are presented to the court to actually press formal charges.

“We cannot tell how long it will take. The police have to finish their investigation first,” the prosecutor said, declining to be named by the press.

“We have not set a deadline for pressing formal charges, but it must be done within 84 days of the suspects being handed over to the court,” Col Noppadol confirmed.

Asked whether the case deserved to be prioritized, Col Noppadol said: “That is the judge’s decision.”

JAIL TIME

Although manslaughter charges incur jail sentences of three to 15 years, Mr Ratikorn confessing to stabbing Bobby Carter is likely to result in a relatively light sentence being handed down.

“If suspects confess, the sentence handed down is usually less severe. However, that all depends on the judge,” the case prosecutor told the Gazette.

If jail time is demanded, the suspects are likely to serve it at Krabi Prison, which incarcerates prisoners who receive sentences of 10 years or less. Prison terms are normally served in the province where the crime was committed.

“However, if they receive sentences of more than 10 years, they will be sent to the maximum security prison in Nakhon Sri Thammarat,” the case prosecutor explained.

Prisoners also receive reduced sentences for good behavior, which means they are likely to not serve full terms, he added.

Source: http://www.phuketgazette.net/phuket_news/2013/Phuket-Special-Report-One-fateful-night-at-the-Longhorn-Saloon-22122.html


-- Phuket Gazette 2013-09-02

[dudu]

They're all gonna get off, i hope you all realize this.

[laurentbkk]

“We cannot tell how long it will take" oh I can tell you .... FOREVER

This case will be like many others , closed ... I wouldnt be surprise that soon it will be the father who murder himself... Does the police know where those guys are ? they should maybe have a special flight together with the redbull son heir.

[dudu]

I was a professional musician all my life, i had many encounters with guys who refused to leave the stage, i copped insults from them and abuse, i was never attacked though, they are usually drunk and on a personal high, the crowd claps and cheers and they get more and more excited, very difficult situation indeed, I can't say that i waited around to fight with them or get revenge, its all a part of entertainment, lets hope we get down to the truth, whatever the case, no one needed to die!! RIP once again.

[ChangMaiSausage]

Sorry, picture the scene I find it difficult to imagine that his friends did not jump in to assist.

Quote: The father knocked me to the ground first, and I could not breathe because he was sitting on my chest.

Another farce and unecessary death that will have very little coverage in and outside of Thialand

RIP.

[peecee]

The weapon the murderer used (discovered by chance whilst he was being sat on and couldn't breath) wasn't found. Well if it was a lucky find and used in self defense, it would prove the spontaneous action of the musician; on the other hand, if it was a knife he would have been keen to dispose of it!!

If the court can't see this what chance have tourists got?

[Baerboxer]

Self-defence. Unfortunate, no intent to kill or seriously injure. Drunk foreigner must learn behave in Thailand. Thai people not like violence etc etc.

Same, same.

But, as one poster said, it will receive little publicity and reporting in and outside of Thailand and won't affect tourist numbers.

So sad for this poor man, his family and friends. The only hope for justice is if the American state department and embassy kick up a fuss, and continue to do so.

[LivinginKata]

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[lee b]

They are on bail, ha one big joke!

[kirk0233]

A trial date has yet to be set, police have yet to press formal charges and all three suspects are out on bail.

If formal charges have not been pressed why are the defendants out on bail? Wouldn't bail suggest that charges have been filed and bail has been assessed based on the charges and the risk of flight? Shouldn't prosecutors, not the police, press formal charges? Prosecutors are rarely discussed in relation to crimes in Thai news items; as criminal charges and bail seem to be levied by the police with little oversight be prosecutors or judges.

[SOTIRIOS]

....I read the testimony of these scum and I want to puke....

...what a load of crock.....

Edited September 2, 2013 by SOTIRIOS

[boone57]

Hang'em, it's a guaranteed fact it will boost record sales.

[Emdog]

New Thai series on the tube "(no)Law and (dis)Order". this isn't rocket science, but maybe seems that level to local "justice" system, so why 84 to indict? Seems a no brainer, but even no brain may be more than can be asked for.

[LivinginKata]

A highly insensitive post + a reply - removed.

And another one ... + replies

[BlackJack]

just imagine the knock on effect of this

just adds another nail

[Countryman]

Spotted a sharp piece of metal nearby and stabbed him with it,

in other words a knife ! ,autopsy would prove that,but may not

have been performed,they are very lax with their forensic work

here.

relax Countryman

[nontabury]

Spotted a sharp piece of metal nearby and stabbed him with it,

in other words a knife ! ,autopsy would prove that,but may not

have been performed,they are very lax with their forensic work

here.

relax Countryman

I've been in that exact area thousands of times, but strangely never seen a piece of metal laying on the ground, but then again I've never intended to murder anyone.

[cgphuket]

They're all gonna get off, i hope you all realize this.

Well sure. I mean they only killed a farang, and there are always more of those...