nedkellylives Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 We will not eat at a restaurant that charges a service charge on principle there are plenty of restaurants around that do not charge it If you are happy with the service you tip the staff not the owner Again this makes no sense. Wine connection makes great meals for a lot cheaper than other restaurants. So you would rather empty your wallet for something less good and or less convenient just to stick it to "the man" for a 10% charge? You do realize that a few people whining about a 10% charge by not coming in will not really affect a restaurant that is always full. The only person you are hurting is yourself. The only way to accomplish anything would be to start a massive campain of information about the service charge and having a large petition. Just put the menu prices up 10% and dont have a service charge If they are a lot cheaper than other restaurants for the same quality of food and service it will not be a problem No one is whining, a service charge is for sevice which is supplied by the staff and should go to them the same as a tip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishIvan Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 I wonder how wine connection shares its tips? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansgruber Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Its hard to believe the business plan they use. The Kata wine connection opens at 2pm. It misses the breakfast and lunch crowd. Chalong gave up on breakfast all together because people stopped eating the filth. How did it all go so wrong? It was once a very decent breakfast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedkellylives Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 I think adding tax to the bill is a ripoff as well If you go the the supermarket you pay the price marked on the shelf When you check the sales docket there is tax on some items but its included in the marked price of the the items This tax is paid to the govt not pocketed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterocket Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Its hard to believe the business plan they use. The Kata wine connection opens at 2pm. It misses the breakfast and lunch crowd. Chalong gave up on breakfast all together because people stopped eating the filth. How did it all go so wrong? It was once a very decent breakfast. Bangtao also stopped steaks and breakfasts both of which I enjoyed. Luckily for Wine Connection I also like Cheese and Wine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishIvan Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Does the quality vary from branch to branch? I havent tried BangTao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laban Posted September 25, 2013 Author Share Posted September 25, 2013 This thread has gone way out of control, and just focusing on the service charge. This should be a different topic as it involves thousands of businesses in Thailand. To remind everyone, my comments were purely on food quality and service levels. I suggest moderator closes this thread, as unfair to WC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterocket Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Does the quality vary from branch to branch? I havent tried BangTao I don't think it varies much. One of the reasons i quite like wine connection is that I know what to expect and generally leave happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansgruber Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 This thread has gone way out of control, and just focusing on the service charge. This should be a different topic as it involves thousands of businesses in Thailand. To remind everyone, my comments were purely on food quality and service levels. I suggest moderator closes this thread, as unfair to WC. What's unfair to wine connection? We are giving honest feedback on the food and service. It was the CEO that came in here and explained the service charge situation which rubbed more customers the wrong way. I understand the situation. The whole brand was built on expats and now they have become a chain, its alienated the people that made it what it was and the management just don't care. They are happy with the tourist trap business model. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamKangMan Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 (edited) This thread has gone way out of control, and just focusing on the service charge. This should be a different topic as it involves thousands of businesses in Thailand. To remind everyone, my comments were purely on food quality and service levels. I suggest moderator closes this thread, as unfair to WC. What's unfair to wine connection? We are giving honest feedback on the food and service. It was the CEO that came in here and explained the service charge situation which rubbed more customers the wrong way. I understand the situation. The whole brand was built on expats and now they have become a chain, its alienated the people that made it what it was and the management just don't care. They are happy with the tourist trap business model. "They are happy with the tourist trap business model." - if that's the case, I suggest they add borsch, noodles, and curry to their menu, if they are going to remain viable on Phuket. As far as the service charge is concerned - in general, I do not support establishments that charge "+ +" or charge a 10% service charge. Edited September 25, 2013 by NamKangMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearpolar Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 We will not eat at a restaurant that charges a service charge on principle there are plenty of restaurants around that do not charge it If you are happy with the service you tip the staff not the owner Again this makes no sense. Wine connection makes great meals for a lot cheaper than other restaurants. So you would rather empty your wallet for something less good and or less convenient just to stick it to "the man" for a 10% charge? You do realize that a few people whining about a 10% charge by not coming in will not really affect a restaurant that is always full. The only person you are hurting is yourself. The only way to accomplish anything would be to start a massive campain of information about the service charge and having a large petition. Just put the menu prices up 10% and dont have a service charge If they are a lot cheaper than other restaurants for the same quality of food and service it will not be a problem No one is whining, a service charge is for sevice which is supplied by the staff and should go to them the same as a tip Hire a few Thais for a while (if you can get them to stay more than 6hrs before disappearing) and see how much money you lose by their fault. I cant fault business owners for taking half the service charge to pay for damages/laziness. In the west someone hiding on the john for an hour with his phone is not a daily occurrence. In Thailand its an hourly occurrence. i still agree that 10% price increase and tip to the discretion would be better overall yet you have to agree that when people are appalled by the service charge not completely going to staff they are totally out of line to ask it removed as the staff would make EVEN less money when their main concern was the staff not getting enough money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFarang Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 (edited) After all the replies on this topic I thought I would give WC Chalong another chance (First Mistake) popped in about 12.45 today and was the only person seated outside 1 girl in attendance standing doing nothing and a table with dirty dishes and a dirty ashtray next to me. Oh dear I think. Ok I ordered Fish & Chips 240thb & an Apple Beer 135thb. In fairness this came very quickly too quickly when I tasted the Fish it was awful tasteless all I could taste was the oil it was heated up in Grey dry interior with an awful smell of very old stock. It says on the menu a New Item. Any way needless to say I was disgusted told the girl food was no good and paid and left it was not worth complaining as I wont be back and will certainly not recommend it to anybody. So in answer to the Original Post Yes Wine Connection has gone downhill and continues to do so! Oh and rather than take my full plate of uneaten food inside to tell the chef that was also dumped on a table next to me to attract flies until the girl decided that the effort to take inside would not be too much. Edited September 26, 2013 by McFarang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somtamnication Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Repost the pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamKangMan Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 After all the replies on this topic I thought I would give WC Chalong another chance (First Mistake) popped in about 12.45 today and was the only person seated outside 1 girl in attendance standing doing nothing and a table with dirty dishes and a dirty ashtray next to me. Oh dear I think. Ok I ordered Fish & Chips 240thb & an Apple Beer 135thb. In fairness this came very quickly too quickly when I tasted the Fish it was awful tasteless all I could taste was the oil it was heated up in Grey dry interior with an awful smell of very old stock. It says on the menu a New Item. Any way needless to say I was disgusted told the girl food was no good and paid and left it was not worth complaining as I wont be back and will certainly not recommend it to anybody. So in answer to the Original Post Yes Wine Connection has gone downhill and continues to do so! Oh and rather than take my full plate of uneaten food inside to tell the chef that was also dumped on a table next to me to attract flies until the girl decided that the effort to take inside would not be too much.20130926_131253.jpg20130926_131423.jpg It would appear the main objective of the business now is to simply get your 375 baht - which they successfully did, :) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manly100 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Went to the WC today, everything was clean and tidy, waited for 10 minutes for service then just thought I'd grab the toilet paper and do it myself. What's all the fuss about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patongphil Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I wonder how many of the posters in this thread are even remotley as successful in their businesses as the owner of WC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishIvan Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I wonder how many of the posters in this thread are even remotley as successful in their businesses as the owner of WC. Myself included, I think very few Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenBravo Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I wonder how many of the posters in this thread are even remotley as successful in their businesses as the owner of WC. Me..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearpolar Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 (edited) Maybe the problem is with the Chalong branch and or the type of people who go to that branch. All the bad comments are coming from the Chalong one and none from central. WC is one of the rare business i have nothing bad to say against in thailand Edited September 26, 2013 by bearpolar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansgruber Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Maybe the problem is with the Chalong branch and or the type of people who go to that branch. All the bad comments are coming from the Chalong one and none from central. WC is one of the rare business i have nothing bad to say against in thailand Food is the same at all the branches. Even Thai people frown upon the Thai food that's served up there. Its garbage. Its very hard to serve crap Thai food in Thailand but wine connection seems to do a good job of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFarang Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Maybe the problem is with the Chalong branch and or the type of people who go to that branch. All the bad comments are coming from the Chalong one and none from central. WC is one of the rare business i have nothing bad to say against in thailand Food is the same at all the branches. Even Thai people frown upon the Thai food that's served up there. Its garbage. Its very hard to serve crap Thai food in Thailand but wine connection seems to do a good job of it. I was hoping after the owner looking at this thread that he may have done something about it Alas not, its actually worse. Sorry I will not post the pics as as soon as I look at them I can smell them! If its good I will praise if its not I will not simple! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFarang Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I wonder how many of the posters in this thread are even remotley as successful in their businesses as the owner of WC.Maybe because in the early days of WC it was good that is why there are so many comments I miss the good WC and I am sure many others do as well ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somtamnication Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 I wonder how many of the posters in this thread are even remotley as successful in their businesses as the owner of WC. Clearly not me!! I would not be able to sleep at night, if I was "that" successful. As WC has proved, too much success *can* be a bad thing. Loss of quality, for one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterocket Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Maybe the problem is with the Chalong branch and or the type of people who go to that branch. All the bad comments are coming from the Chalong one and none from central. WC is one of the rare business i have nothing bad to say against in thailand Food is the same at all the branches. Even Thai people frown upon the Thai food that's served up there. Its garbage. Its very hard to serve crap Thai food in Thailand but wine connection seems to do a good job of it. Why would anyone go to a wine connection for Thai food? I didn't even know they did Thai food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansgruber Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Maybe the problem is with the Chalong branch and or the type of people who go to that branch. All the bad comments are coming from the Chalong one and none from central. WC is one of the rare business i have nothing bad to say against in thailand Food is the same at all the branches.Even Thai people frown upon the Thai food that's served up there. Its garbage. Its very hard to serve crap Thai food in Thailand but wine connection seems to do a good job of it. Why would anyone go to a wine connection for Thai food? I didn't even know they did Thai food. Thai people eat Thai food and last time I checked we are in Thailand. What do guys better halves eat? Escargot and cheese? Most Thais are lactose intolerant. They do Thai food and its pre made and reheated rubbish. Poor standards when street food trumps it. Again, if they don't care about the quality of even Thai food they must be just keen on trapping the tourists who probably won't return anyway. Great longterm business model. Alienate expats and Thai residents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamKangMan Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 (edited) Maybe the problem is with the Chalong branch and or the type of people who go to that branch. All the bad comments are coming from the Chalong one and none from central. WC is one of the rare business i have nothing bad to say against in thailand Food is the same at all the branches. Even Thai people frown upon the Thai food that's served up there. Its garbage. Its very hard to serve crap Thai food in Thailand but wine connection seems to do a good job of it. Why would anyone go to a wine connection for Thai food? I didn't even know they did Thai food. In general, tourists don't trust the hygiene of cheap eats, plastic chair, outdoor Thai restaurants, despite them having excellent food. Edited September 27, 2013 by NamKangMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterocket Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Maybe the problem is with the Chalong branch and or the type of people who go to that branch. All the bad comments are coming from the Chalong one and none from central. WC is one of the rare business i have nothing bad to say against in thailand Food is the same at all the branches. Even Thai people frown upon the Thai food that's served up there. Its garbage. Its very hard to serve crap Thai food in Thailand but wine connection seems to do a good job of it. Why would anyone go to a wine connection for Thai food? I didn't even know they did Thai food. In general, tourists don't trust the hygiene of cheap eats, plastic chair, outdoor Thai restaurants, despite them having excellent food. Yeah but I wouldn't go to my local Isaan restaurant and then complain that they don't do quality Italian food Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamKangMan Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 @ Peterocket Sure, but if you came to Thailand, for your first time, as a tourists, and went to what appeared to be a nice, clean and "western" looking restaurant, in order to try Thai food, maybe for the first time in your life, it's not a great advertisement for Thai food, Phuket, and Thailand in general, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearpolar Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 I dont recall seeing many tourists in WC ordering thai food when next to most locations you have a bunch of THAI restaurants offering thai food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamKangMan Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 (edited) I dont recall seeing many tourists in WC ordering thai food when next to most locations you have a bunch of THAI restaurants offering thai food. What, exactly, does a "tourist" look like? Edited September 27, 2013 by NamKangMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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