By the work ethic shown by many young Thai ladies. I know that may not be a fashionable view but I'm sitting here now being served breakfast by a 19 year old Thai girl. So what you say? Well this young lady is helping out her Mum to be fair, while she is also studying for an English degree. If she's not at Uni, she's here, and I often see her studying in the corner while waiting to serve tables. It's her day off today and I expect she'll be here until after 10.00 this evening.

Is she unique? Nope, next door but a couple there's a young lady who wakes at 4.00am every morning to prepare the curries for the Thai cafe she works in. 27 days a month she works from 4.00 till 3.00 in the afternoon. She's 23 now an she's worked in that cafe since she was 16. I saw her all dressed up and ready to go out with her boyfriend on Saturday night and I felt inordinately proud of her. A hard working girl going out for a night out, a well deserved night out.

I could rhyme off several more, like the young ladies that work as cleaners in my hotel. Every day they pour over every inch of the place sweeping and tidying, and running after the guests untidyness. Oh and the young ladies that staff that cafe from 7.00am till 8.00pm at least 6 1/2 days a week.

I think it's great, and outwith leaving tips in the various establishments I make a point of bringing in the vouchers from 7/11 and handing them out. That's always met with a rapturous welcome, you would think it was a big deal. It's nothing to me ( to us ) but they love it. Just as they love when I hand over plastic bottles and the like too.

I do get impressed when I see these young ladies working hard and getting on with life, and when I think about it, it's quite humbling too. Life is about choices, and they have chosen to work hard.

Fabulous.

Completely agree. I knew one girl who worked 6am to 8pm in her shop every day for nearly 2 years, and was always as smiley and friendly as if it was her first day. Also very helpful and good at her job. I married her!

I'm not blind to the short comings of the Thai work ethic/attitude, but when it's good it's amazing.

To bad that for many of them their marital choices are

a ) a broke, drunk, lazy Thai man

b ) a bald, fat, drunk, lazy farang

c ) a like minded female

To bad that for many of them their marital choices are

a ) a broke, drunk, lazy Thai man

b ) a bald, fat, drunk, lazy farang

c ) a like minded female

Whats to bad about C ??

If you could only bottle it. With aspiration comes effort, with effort comes achievement. So many young people I see here, are I suggest the Blether, with families that are poorer than where you are and to me it seems many have no aspiration and end up like a mouse on a wheel, running and going nowhere. Some leave and maybe succeed but too many leave school and just end up in the village rut. I encourage and support all the kids in the extended family to stay longer at school and I also encourage them and their parents to consider broader opportunities that might be possible nowadays. Example a 14 year old girl who is clever was going to be encouraged by her mother to go for hairdressing, I've got it up to nurse now, who knows where she might go.

Another rich farang being "jai-dee" by handing over his vouchers from 7-11 and his empty bottles to the poor hardworking natives!!

As for the work-ethics of young Thai ladies, let me just say, I don't share your view. Having had (and still have) 50-60 young ladies working for me at any given time in more than 10 years, my experiece tells me, that they don't even know the meaning of the word work-ethics.

The ladies you mention (all respect to them) simply don't have a choice!

Completely agree. I knew one girl who worked 6am to 8pm in her shop every day for nearly 2 years, and was always as smiley and friendly as if it was her first day. Also very helpful and good at her job. I married her!

I'm not blind to the short comings of the Thai work ethic/attitude, but when it's good it's amazing.

Yes, Mrs Possum has a good work ethic, as well as looking after her ageing parents who live nearby, she also works at her own business, she only has an odd day off when we both go out together, apart from that she works every day.

Another rich farang being "jai-dee" by handing over his vouchers from 7-11 and his empty bottles to the poor hardworking natives!!

As for the work-ethics of young Thai ladies, let me just say, I don't share your view. Having had (and still have) 50-60 young ladies working for me at any given time in more than 10 years, my experiece tells me, that they don't even know the meaning of the word work-ethics.

The ladies you mention (all respect to them) simply don't have a choice!

Another rich farang being "jai-dee" by handing over his vouchers from 7-11 and his empty bottles to the poor hardworking natives!!

As for the work-ethics of young Thai ladies, let me just say, I don't share your view. Having had (and still have) 50-60 young ladies working for me at any given time in more than 10 years, my experiece tells me, that they don't even know the meaning of the word work-ethics.

The ladies you mention (all respect to them) simply don't have a choice!

Not so, what about the young girl who is studying at University for an English degree? Are you saying she does not have a choice? I think people like her who study and also do other work have to be commended.

Most young Thai men are equally as equally hard working and keen to do a good job, its just a matter opening our eyes to see the truth and have a possitive view of young people.

ie give them the chance to prove themselves and their own worth - like the chance most of us where given by older people when we where young.

My Wife works every minute of every day, the only time she doesnt work is when shes asleep, she desperately needs some help, someone could get a very good living helping her.

She has a Sister but she is useless bone idle, wants the money but not the work, her Sister clings to a sad old man who in her words "lets him touch her milk and pu**y" for money.

The Two sisters are totally different.

Since I first met my Wife she has come on in leaps and bounds with a bit of help, I have given this help to others who have done nothing with it.

What Blether sees are the ones who will knuckle down and get on with it, sadly there are many in life not just in Thailand who want bugger all except a free handout.

Most young Thai men are equally as equally hard working and keen to do a good job, its just a matter opening our eyes to see the truth and have a possitive view of young people.

ie give them the chance to prove themselves and their own worth - like the chance most of us where given by older people when we where young.

probably true but the examples the Blether provides are in eating places or hotels domestics where there are more likely to be females working or maybe he just notices the females more, I know I do

Another rich farang being "jai-dee" by handing over his vouchers from 7-11 and his empty bottles to the poor hardworking natives!!

As for the work-ethics of young Thai ladies, let me just say, I don't share your view. Having had (and still have) 50-60 young ladies working for me at any given time in more than 10 years, my experiece tells me, that they don't even know the meaning of the word work-ethics.

The ladies you mention (all respect to them) simply don't have a choice!

Or another rich farang being jai-dahm by slagging off the peons that work (with all respect to them) with equally as much choice to make him rich

Most of my friends in Thailand work bloody hard, are ambitious and educated. That is why the continuos Thai-bashing on TV really riles me sometimes.

Hard to be hard working in this tropical heat with so much good food and pretty woman around.

Most of my friends in Thailand work bloody hard, are ambitious and educated. That is why the continuos Thai-bashing on TV really riles me sometimes.

And it also helps with your identity of being the right kind of farang, unlike all the wrong kinds of farang that populate TV.

Most of my friends in Thailand work bloody hard, are ambitious and educated. That is why the continuos Thai-bashing on TV really riles me sometimes.

my neighbour even cleans my patio, just like that, nice to be nice! thai bashing is done by frustrated farang who bash EVERYTHING except themselves.

i indeed give away 7/11 stamps and don't want money for my recycling. why would i care about what, 15-30 bt a month? where i come from i recycle too and must actually PAY for it.

OP, reminds me of the UK not so very long ago. Poor folk would go to the mills or go underground and dig coal 12 hours a day. My own mum had bits of old bicycle tyre nailed to her shoes. No bath, no nothing. Lice in her hair cos no soap, Bombed out of houses, machine gunned in the street at night.

She/they came through that to make her/my country a better place. We/they had to fight for the country it is now.

It wasn't not that long ago that there was no health care or social security there, similar to LOS, but they fought for it with the help of the non corruptible MP's who cared for the working class, the backbone of the country.

Most young Thai men are equally as equally hard working and keen to do a good job, its just a matter opening our eyes to see the truth and have a possitive view of young people.

ie give them the chance to prove themselves and their own worth - like the chance most of us where given by older people when we where young.

I have given many young men/women a chance and been let down on many occasions, I dont live in Bangkok but out in the country and many simply want to sit around and get paid for it.

Maybe once they migrate to Bangkok they change/adapt to a better work ethic?

Where I live I simply cannot find anyone to help me in a reasonable way ie turning up on time or even within 30 minutes and when they do work like a tortoise or tell me they have a headache and have to go home.

To watch them dig a hole is painstaking so i end up doing it all myself, yes its hard work at times but I'm not afraid to get stuck in and at the end of the day feel at least I have achieved something when I stand back and look at whats been done.

These people are way younger than me and much more able, Wife asked one to cut some trees down and he just said he didnt have a machete, we went out and bought him one and he still wasnt in the least bit interested, instead he spent all day larking about with my builders who said he just follows us around but wasnt employed by them.

Depends what your work environment is like and I think yours GH is probably a big company employing well educated motivated staff?

Recently however I managed to find 2 Myanmar staff, the one is e very good and willing the other just very dim and not so willing, the boy cajoles her along and carries her so i keep them both, a job for them for possibly 25+ years.

I have given many young men/women a chance and been let down on many occasions, I dont live in Bangkok but out in the country and many simply want to sit around and get paid for it.

Maybe once they migrate to Bangkok they change/adapt to a better work ethic?

Where I live I simply cannot find anyone to help me in a reasonable way ie turning up on time or even within 30 minutes and when they do work like a tortoise or tell me they have a headache and have to go home.

To watch them dig a hole is painstaking so i end up doing it all myself, yes its hard work at times but I'm not afraid to get stuck in and at the end of the day feel at least I have achieved something when I stand back and look at whats been done.

These people are way younger than me and much more able, Wife asked one to cut some trees down and he just said he didnt have a machete, we went out and bought him one and he still wasnt in the least bit interested, instead he spent all day larking about with my builders who said he just follows us around but wasnt employed by them.

Depends what your work environment is like and I think yours GH is probably a big company employing well educated motivated staff?

You're right, you do seem to be struggling with that 'motivaiton' bit.

OP, reminds me of the UK not so very long ago. Poor folk would go to the mills or go underground and dig coal 12 hours a day. My own mum had bits of old bicycle tyre nailed to her shoes. No bath, no nothing. Lice in her hair cos no soap, Bombed out of houses, machine gunned in the street at night.

She/they came through that to make her/my country a better place. We/they had to fight for the country it is now.

It wasn't not that long ago that there was no health care or social security there, similar to LOS, but they fought for it with the help of the non corruptible MP's who cared for the working class, the backbone of the country.

Been thinking about stuff. I quoted my mums stuff, but then I thought of my stuff as a kid. Winter, mum would come upstairs at night to see which one of us was shivering, yep, usually me. She would go to the coat rack and pile the coats on top of me to stop the shivering.

Sunday, we all looked forward to Sunday cos it might mean a tin of peaches, hmmmm, yeh, we liked Sunday's.

In my country the poor won through to try and make life ''near'' equal to all. Yeh, sure there are big divides but now we take care of each other and not just the few.

PS. Can you believe I have a tear in my eye thinking about it. Grrrrrrrrrrrr, come on Trans, get a hold of yourself.........................OK, will do.

I have given many young men/women a chance and been let down on many occasions, I dont live in Bangkok but out in the country and many simply want to sit around and get paid for it.

Maybe once they migrate to Bangkok they change/adapt to a better work ethic?

Where I live I simply cannot find anyone to help me in a reasonable way ie turning up on time or even within 30 minutes and when they do work like a tortoise or tell me they have a headache and have to go home.

To watch them dig a hole is painstaking so i end up doing it all myself, yes its hard work at times but I'm not afraid to get stuck in and at the end of the day feel at least I have achieved something when I stand back and look at whats been done.

These people are way younger than me and much more able, Wife asked one to cut some trees down and he just said he didnt have a machete, we went out and bought him one and he still wasnt in the least bit interested, instead he spent all day larking about with my builders who said he just follows us around but wasnt employed by them.

Depends what your work environment is like and I think yours GH is probably a big company employing well educated motivated staff?

You're right, you do seem to be struggling with that 'motivaiton' bit.

You mean the free drinks (with an "S") everyday ie coffee in a can or m150? the increased salary 400 baht from local 2-300? c'mon Gh you can do better than that.

Kannot, some people can motivate others - some people cannot.

OP, reminds me of the UK not so very long ago. Poor folk would go to the mills or go underground and dig coal 12 hours a day. My own mum had bits of old bicycle tyre nailed to her shoes. No bath, no nothing. Lice in her hair cos no soap, Bombed out of houses, machine gunned in the street at night.

She/they came through that to make her/my country a better place. We/they had to fight for the country it is now.

It wasn't not that long ago that there was no health care or social security there, similar to LOS, but they fought for it with the help of the non corruptible MP's who cared for the working class, the backbone of the country.

Been thinking about stuff. I quoted my mums stuff, but then I thought of my stuff as a kid. Winter, mum would come upstairs at night to see which one of us was shivering, yep, usually me. She would go to the coat rack and pile the coats on top of me to stop the shivering.

Sunday, we all looked forward to Sunday cos it might mean a tin of peaches, hmmmm, yeh, we liked Sunday's.

In my country the poor won through to try and make life ''near'' equal to all. Yeh, sure there are big divides but now we take care of each other and not just the few.

PS. Can you believe I have a tear in my eye thinking about it. Grrrrrrrrrrrr, come on Trans, get a hold of yourself.........................OK, will do.

I used to love it when it snowed in England as I got older it meant "money"

I'd go out knock on everyone's doors and offer to clear the snow off their drives, aged about 11 onwards I did this for quite a few winters, another one i did was buy big bags of rock salt split them down from 50kgs into 10 kgs and sell them to local petrol ( gas) stations.

At age 9 I was already doing a Saturday job cycling from Birmingham to Redditch which used to take me about an hour I imagine, leaving in the dark with my bike dynamo providing a light and coming home in the dark.

At 16 I was working for Safeway Supermarket starting 6 am to 10pm Saturdays in Kings heath Birmingham whilst doing my "A" levels.

50 now and can still out work many of the locals by me,

Did I like any of it?? NOPE not really but it was the only way to "get on" and now finally Ive retired and can do what I want...................which is even more as I cant find a local to do it.

Another rich farang being "jai-dee" by handing over his vouchers from 7-11 and his empty bottles to the poor hardworking natives!!

As for the work-ethics of young Thai ladies, let me just say, I don't share your view. Having had (and still have) 50-60 young ladies working for me at any given time in more than 10 years, my experiece tells me, that they don't even know the meaning of the word work-ethics.

The ladies you mention (all respect to them) simply don't have a choice!

Sorry but maybe you are just a t#!t to work for?

Sent via tin can and string after pigeon shot

Another rich farang being "jai-dee" by handing over his vouchers from 7-11 and his empty bottles to the poor hardworking natives!!

As for the work-ethics of young Thai ladies, let me just say, I don't share your view. Having had (and still have) 50-60 young ladies working for me at any given time in more than 10 years, my experiece tells me, that they don't even know the meaning of the word work-ethics.

The ladies you mention (all respect to them) simply don't have a choice!

Sorry but maybe you are just a t#!t to work for?

Sent via tin can and string after pigeon shot

or maybe not???

Most young Thai men are equally as equally hard working and keen to do a good job, its just a matter opening our eyes to see the truth and have a possitive view of young people.

ie give them the chance to prove themselves and their own worth - like the chance most of us where given by older people when we where young.

I have not witnessed the Thai work ethic here in Pattaya. I'm buying a high rise condo and waiting for completion that's 6 months late. There are 2 average sized bathrooms in my new condo and it took 5 men working 7 days a week 4 weeks to complete the job. That same job in the USA would have been 2 days for 2 men. The female house keepers at the condo I live in now work several hours in the morning then sit on the stairs and comb each other's hair and play games on their cell phone until quitting time.

I am delighted to hear there are hard working Thais as I have great respect for anyone that does their best in life. But I think a hard working Thai is an anomaly not the norm,

Motivation to do a good job comes from within 1self. You can steer, direct and correct but its mentality what matters. Went always to a deli in patong to buy bread. Fresh rolls of bread i only wanted. After 1 time speaking with the girl behind the counter of the bakery, explaining that i dont like yesterdays bread, everytime after she just knotted NO if not available or put fresh rolls on the counter. MENTALITY. IMO a girl like her, based on what ive seen, is a rarity. She made me smile though everytime i came there.