Thaksin tells police chief to tackle police kickbacks

[Rich teacher]

TV reads like the voice of that lunatic Dr Tul more and more by the day. So many extremist foreigners who hate the Thai people electing their own representatives that the great minds of TV forum do not want elected. Weird.

Finally some clarity. Isn't it bizarre! Maybe Dr. (DNA) Tul has brainwashed the lot of em.

The improvement in corruption when Thaksin came in was significant and so refreshing. After having to wait hours for even the most basic services Thailand made a great leap into the 21stC, well at least towards it.

[confirmed3]

TV reads like the voice of that lunatic Dr Tul more and more by the day. So many extremist foreigners who hate the Thai people electing their own representatives that the great minds of TV forum do not want elected. Weird.

Finally some clarity. Isn't it bizarre! Maybe Dr. (DNA) Tul has brainwashed the lot of em.

The improvement in corruption when Thaksin came in was significant and so refreshing. After having to wait hours for even the most basic services Thailand made a great leap into the 21stC, well at least towards it.

You're right about one thing.

He certainly did "improve" corruption by streamlining it into a single stream that enabled him to take corruption to previously unprecedented levels. By removing checks and balances he eliminated many roadblocks that slowed the revenue stream into his accounts. "Improved" corruption, indeed.

That today, Police Lieutenant-Colonel Thaksin is dictating policy to Police General Anul from the standpoint of a convicted fugitive is telling the National Police Chief what to focus on is the height of absurdity.

That it is policy setting in regards to corruption is the height of repulsive irony.

Edited October 3, 2013 by confirmed3

[kimamey]

Please tell me this news article was satire.

If only it was.

[Thai at Heart]

Well - my take on this is that Thaksin, during his reign here, had a tighter reign on corruption than anyone else has had.

Right now, there is no strong leader at the helm and it's running rampant.

There's been a number of high profile cases here in the press where Thaksin would absolutely have stepped in. It's what he did. He was a no-nonsense guy that liked to be seen to be sorting out people's issues.

I'm no fan of Thaksin and I am not saying that corruption was non-existent when he was PM, but there was a cap on it.

Thaksin capped corruption so he was tougher on it than others? Just listen to yourself for a second.

I have absolutely no idea where you can get any empirical evidence to support such a thing,anyway, aside from being an absurd thing to say.. Saying one Thai government is more or less corrupt than another, is like claiming to be half pregnant.

They are all corrupt to some greater or lesser degree, after that, the rest are semantics.

I don't have empirical evidence. I have experience.

As for an absurd thing to say. Well - that's a very rude thing to say. Do you have no manners? Of course you can have levels of corruption.

Like I say - Thaksin kept a pretty tight reign on certain types of corruption here. Specifically when it came to the BIB. There was a video a few months ago of some guys chasing a cop who'd effectively kidnapped a girl and was demanding sex. He'd have been for the high jump during Thaksins reign.

Of course, you can choose not to believe this, make a counter point or say it's absurd. It makes very little difference.

OK. So Thaksin capped corruption. Come on then. Please prove that one.

And I still claim it's absurd. He put in place laws that enriched himself to the highest value that any one individual managed ever in Thailand.

2bn USD worth of a sale that couldn't have occurred without him changing the law. Your statement is umproveable and yes, absurd

[Issangeorge]

When I was teaching I told my students that in this day and age your job could be anywhere and you could live anywhere and they did not have to be the same place. Thaksin is the perfect proof of that.

Sent from my i-mobile IQ 6 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

[jaidam]

This coming from the bloke that got caught giving the biggest bribe in recent history with his 2 million baht pastry box.

His asinine comments are eagerly swallowed by his fanboys and ridiculed by the savvy observers. As per usual with everything that Khun T says.

[MrSlatersParrot]

Got pictures of the 2 million to prove that?

[scorecard]

Got pictures of the 2 million to prove that?

No need to supply pictures.

Do some quick google research mrslatersparrot, you will find more than enough specific evidence

of the incident, including the fact that two of the paymasters lawyers went to jail on it.

[MrSlatersParrot]

Got pictures of the 2 million to prove that?

No need to supply pictures.

Do some quick google research mrslatersparrot, you will find more than enough specific evidence

of the incident, including the fact that two of the paymasters lawyers went to jail on it.

Precisely you can't!

http://slimdogsworld.blogspot.co.uk/2009/06/pastrygate.html

[scorecard]

Got pictures of the 2 million to prove that?

No need to supply pictures.

Do some quick google research mrslatersparrot, you will find more than enough specific evidence

of the incident, including the fact that two of the paymasters lawyers went to jail on it.

Precisely you can't!

http://slimdogsworld.blogspot.co.uk/2009/06/pastrygate.html

Edited October 4, 2013 by scorecard

[metisdead]

I think this "pastry gate" discussion is old news and not related to this topic. Back on this topic please.

[Thai at Heart]

TV reads like the voice of that lunatic Dr Tul more and more by the day. So many extremist foreigners who hate the Thai people electing their own representatives that the great minds of TV forum do not want elected. Weird.

Its not about them electing per se, its about the completely corrupt doltz that they keep on electing. Isnt' there anyone better anywhere in teh country?

[pedro01]

Well - my take on this is that Thaksin, during his reign here, had a tighter reign on corruption than anyone else has had.

Right now, there is no strong leader at the helm and it's running rampant.

There's been a number of high profile cases here in the press where Thaksin would absolutely have stepped in. It's what he did. He was a no-nonsense guy that liked to be seen to be sorting out people's issues.

I'm no fan of Thaksin and I am not saying that corruption was non-existent when he was PM, but there was a cap on it.

No strong leader at the helm?

Who exactly do you think is running the good ship PTP and it's government then?

Thaksin may be at the helm but he ain't here and the fact is there's a lot going on that would not be happening if he was here.

My friend, if T had not been tossed out, he would still be here at the helm. And Thailand would be worse off than Philippines under Marcos combined with Indonesia under Sukarno. Perhaps not as bad as Zimbabwe, but Thailand would be one man's (one family's) fiefdom, and T would be richer than Gates, most of that lucre from bloodsucking the Thai people. The 2,000+ extrajudicial deaths from his "War on Drugs" and his 100+ deaths of young Muslim men in custody would pale in comparison to what he could have accomplished (in the human deaths dept.) in the years since his ouster.

This is only your opinion. It is not fact.

The discussion here is about police kickbacks. You have the worst of both worlds right now. You have Thaksin in charge but not here. That means he's got all the pigs at the trough but he's out of sight, out of mind most of the time and the little piggies are out of control.

I do not want to see Thaksin back but saying he would not control things if he were here is not backed up by what we saw when he was here. He was a control freak and very much focused on image. Police corruption as it pertains to the main in the street was actually a lot lower when Thaksin was at the helm because they were so scared of him. The only time I ever paid a ticket here was when some cop refused a back-hander because at that time Thaksin had put a block on such things.

[pedro01]

Well - my take on this is that Thaksin, during his reign here, had a tighter reign on corruption than anyone else has had.

Right now, there is no strong leader at the helm and it's running rampant.

There's been a number of high profile cases here in the press where Thaksin would absolutely have stepped in. It's what he did. He was a no-nonsense guy that liked to be seen to be sorting out people's issues.

I'm no fan of Thaksin and I am not saying that corruption was non-existent when he was PM, but there was a cap on it.

Thaksin capped corruption so he was tougher on it than others? Just listen to yourself for a second.

I have absolutely no idea where you can get any empirical evidence to support such a thing,anyway, aside from being an absurd thing to say.. Saying one Thai government is more or less corrupt than another, is like claiming to be half pregnant.

They are all corrupt to some greater or lesser degree, after that, the rest are semantics.

I don't have empirical evidence. I have experience.

As for an absurd thing to say. Well - that's a very rude thing to say. Do you have no manners? Of course you can have levels of corruption.

Like I say - Thaksin kept a pretty tight reign on certain types of corruption here. Specifically when it came to the BIB. There was a video a few months ago of some guys chasing a cop who'd effectively kidnapped a girl and was demanding sex. He'd have been for the high jump during Thaksins reign.

Of course, you can choose not to believe this, make a counter point or say it's absurd. It makes very little difference.

OK. So Thaksin capped corruption. Come on then. Please prove that one.

And I still claim it's absurd. He put in place laws that enriched himself to the highest value that any one individual managed ever in Thailand.

2bn USD worth of a sale that couldn't have occurred without him changing the law. Your statement is umproveable and yes, absurd

I can no more prove it than you can prove he didn't. I was here through his reign and my personal experience was that certain excesses were not allowed whilst he were here.

I repeat again the recent story about the cop who kidnapped a girl and ran off when her brother came. It was on Youtube. Even my wife, a fervent Thaksin hater said "that would not have happened if Thaksin were here".

The average cop on the beat was petrified of Thaksin and right now there is no-one to be scared of 'cause Thaksin is so far away.

[pedro01]

When I was teaching I told my students that in this day and age your job could be anywhere and you could live anywhere and they did not have to be the same place. Thaksin is the perfect proof of that.

Sent from my i-mobile IQ 6 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

lol

Telepriminstering...

[MrSlatersParrot]

TV reads like the voice of that lunatic Dr Tul more and more by the day. So many extremist foreigners who hate the Thai people electing their own representatives that the great minds of TV forum do not want elected. Weird.

Its not about them electing per se, its about the completely corrupt doltz that they keep on electing. Isnt' there anyone better anywhere in teh country?

What can you say when the deputy leader of the opposition is Suthep!!!