webfact Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Bangkok Governor Sukhumbhand accused of aiding protestorsBANGKOK, 15 October 2013 (NNT) - The Pheu Thai Party has accused the Bangkok Governor, M.R. Sukhumbhand Paribatra, of providing up to 4 electric generators to aid the ongoing protests.Spokesman for the Pheu Thai Party Prompong Nopparit said in his accusations that the Governor of Bangkok has been aiding the protesters in terms of providing mobile toilets, potable water vehicles, and up to 4 giant electric generators, as well as 3 small ones.Mr. Prompong further denounced M.R. Sukhumbhand for using the people’s tax money for carrying out the scheme. He criticized that the governor should have been working in cooperation with the government, not against it.Mr. Prompong also brought to attention whether or not it was acceptable for Democrat leader Abhisit Vejjajiva to claim that Democrat Party members had the right to visit the Urupong protestors.As commuters, shops, and local residents have been greatly affected by the protest, the Pheu Thai spokesman stated, the Interior Ministry must look into the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration (BMA)’s action in supporting the tumultuous situation. If the ministry failed to do so, he said he would take legal action against the Ministry regardless of the fact that it is on the government’s side.-- NNT 2013-10-15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post borisloosebrain Posted October 15, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2013 Prompong....get a life ! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gl555 Posted October 15, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2013 PTP always whining about something or another. And if he is helping the protestors, so what? They're exercising their right to protest and unlike the red idiots, they're neither threatening anyone nor breaking any laws. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Katipo Posted October 15, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2013 One might agree with this fellow if it weren't for double standards. At least he isn't handing out cash payments like a certain politician did to encourage the Red Shirts to bring Bangkok to a standstill in 2010. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MikeOboe57 Posted October 15, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2013 Of course the PTP didn't mind the BMA providing sanitary facilities to the Red Shirt Fortress in 2010. 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post siampolee Posted October 15, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2013 (edited) Nothing at all to do with the fact that M.R. Sukhumbhand the Governor of Bangkok is a Democrat who was cleared of any wrongdoing in his recent re-election as Governor of Bangkok surely? Spokesman for the Pheu Thai Party Prompong Nopparit said in his accusations that the Governor of Bangkok has been aiding the protesters in terms of providing mobile toilets, potable water vehicles, and up to 4 giant electric generators, as well as 3 small ones. In any civilised country the authorities provide these amenities so as to minimize the disease factor and preserve the general cleanliness of the areas in question. As I recall such facilities were in place at the time of the Red Shirt protests, however many of those Red Shirts did not avail themselves of the facilities and left the areas in an appalling state. The provision of such amenities is called a civic duty. A fine example of the Goverrnor of Bangkok performing as ''A public Servant'' as opposed to that which we see from the Pheu Thai Party and Prompong Nopparit who it seems regard the public as their servants or pawns in earlier demonstrations. Mr. Prompong also brought to attention whether or not it was acceptable for Democrat leader Abhisit Vejjajiva to claim that Democrat Party members had the right to visit the Urupong protestors. There were as I recall a lot of visits to the red Shirts by their political allies at that time ''pot kettle black Mr. Prompong Nopparit As commuters, shops, and local residents have been greatly affected by the protest, the Pheu Thai spokesman stated, the Interior Ministry must look into the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration (BMA)’s action in supporting the tumultuous situation. If the ministry failed to do so, he said he would take legal action against the Ministry regardless of the fact that it is on the government’s side. Indeed a fine example of democracy P.T.P. Red Shirt style , Change that blue shirt you're wearing for a black shirt, then you'll be wearing the right colour ''Sieg Heil'' Prompong Nopparit Edited October 15, 2013 by siampolee 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fab4 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 PTP always whining about something or another. And if he is helping the protestors, so what? They're exercising their right to protest and unlike the red idiots, they're neither threatening anyone nor breaking any laws. "And if he is helping the protestors, so what" Do you honestly see nothing wrong with the Mayor of Bangkok supporting anti government supporters (basically abusing public funds)? <deleted>. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post siampolee Posted October 15, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2013 (edited) Do you honestly see nothing wrong with the Mayor of Bangkok supporting anti government supporters (basically abusing public funds)? <deleted>. By the same token can you, do you condone the rampant corruption that is being conducted by this government under the orders of their criminally convicted bail jumping renegade puppet master ? Edited October 15, 2013 by siampolee 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fab4 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Nothing at all to do with the fact that M.R. Sukhumbhand the Governor of Bangkok is a Democrat who was cleared of any wrongdoing in his recent re-election as Governor of Bangkok surely? Spokesman for the Pheu Thai Party Prompong Nopparit said in his accusations that the Governor of Bangkok has been aiding the protesters in terms of providing mobile toilets, potable water vehicles, and up to 4 giant electric generators, as well as 3 small ones. In any civilised country the authorities provide these amenities so as to minimize the disease factor and preserve the general cleanliness of the areas in question. As I recall such facilities were in place at the time of the Red Shirt protests, however many of those Red Shirts did not avail themselves of the facilities and left the areas in an appalling state. The provision of such amenities is called a civic duty. A fine example of the Goverrnor of Bangkok performing as ''A public Servant'' as opposed to that which we see from the Pheu Thai Party and Prompong Nopparit. Mr. Prompong also brought to attention whether or not it was acceptable for Democrat leader Abhisit Vejjajiva to claim that Democrat Party members had the right to visit the Urupong protestors. There were as I recall a lot of visits to the red Shirts by their political allies at that time ''pot kettle black Mr. Prompong Nopparit As commuters, shops, and local residents have been greatly affected by the protest, the Pheu Thai spokesman stated, the Interior Ministry must look into the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration (BMA)’s action in supporting the tumultuous situation. If the ministry failed to do so, he said he would take legal action against the Ministry regardless of the fact that it is on the government’s side. Indeed a fine example of democracy P.T.P. Red Shirt style , Change that blue shirt you're wearing for a black shirt, then you'll be wearing the right colour ''!Sieg Heil'' Prompong Nopparit I don't know where to start with this, I really don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fab4 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Do you honestly see nothing wrong with the Mayor of Bangkok supporting anti government supporters (basically abusing public funds)? <deleted>. By the same token can you, do you condone the rampant corruption that is being conducted by this government under the orders of their criminally convicted bail jumping renegade puppet master ? It would help if you learn how to use the quote function to include the user name so that people can answer any posts. It's not hard. If I could even begin to think of a link between a person elected to a non political post supporting an anti government group by misusing government property (not to mention the professional and ethical minefield he has just entered) and alleged corruption (much alleged, never any evidence shown) of the present government under (ranting removed) then I would discuss it with you. There isn't and therefore I won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chainarong Posted October 15, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2013 One can only assume that the PTP have not assisted the red shirts in any way and one can also assume no individual member of the PTP has helped the red shits in any way , now that should clarify this matter up and shut up Prompong, as for the Governor using public funds, who said he was.. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MikeOboe57 Posted October 15, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2013 Dear fab4, it is very simple. If these protesters were red shirts then this joker would accuse the BMA of not providing enough facilities in an attempt to stifle a legitimate protest, and demand the resignation or impeachment of the Bangkok Governor. 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siampolee Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 It would help if you learn how to use the quote function to include the user name so that people can answer any posts. It's not hard. Indeed I find the overpowering intellect and superior knowledge you claim to possess most amazing. 'Tis indeed a shame you cannot or will not actually see the truth regarding the current government and its puppet master actions here in Thailand. i can but only presume that in a previous incarnation you were no doubt one of The Oracles at The Temple of Delphi. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ratcatcher Posted October 15, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2013 Do you honestly see nothing wrong with the Mayor of Bangkok supporting anti government supporters (basically abusing public funds)? <deleted>. By the same token can you, do you condone the rampant corruption that is being conducted by this government under the orders of their criminally convicted bail jumping renegade puppet master ? It would help if you learn how to use the quote function to include the user name so that people can answer any posts. It's not hard. If I could even begin to think of a link between a person elected to a non political post supporting an anti government group by misusing government property (not to mention the professional and ethical minefield he has just entered) and alleged corruption (much alleged, never any evidence shown) of the present government under (ranting removed) then I would discuss it with you. There isn't and therefore I won't. In the democracy we know as Thailand, people have the constitutional right to demonstrate. The governor of Bangkok is merely doing his job by seeing that said demonstrators are provided with portable toilets. Being a responsible governor, even though of the Democrat persuasion, he would provide the same for "Red Shirt" or PTP demonstrators (and did in 2011). He is not demonstrating political bias but sound management of the city and that area. In other words, he is doing his job. Mr Prompong Noparrot is merely proving the old saying " it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool"....etc. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fab4 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 It would help if you learn how to use the quote function to include the user name so that people can answer any posts. It's not hard. Indeed I find the overpowering intellect and superior knowledge you claim to possess most amazing. 'Tis indeed a shame you cannot or will not actually see the truth regarding the current government and its puppet master actions here in Thailand. i can but only presume that in a previous incarnation you were no doubt one of The Oracles at The Temple of Delphi. I don't where that personal attack came from. I just said it's not hard to include the originators name when mentioning their post - you just press one button..................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jonclark Posted October 15, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2013 PTP always whining about something or another. And if he is helping the protestors, so what? They're exercising their right to protest and unlike the red idiots, they're neither threatening anyone nor breaking any laws. "And if he is helping the protestors, so what" Do you honestly see nothing wrong with the Mayor of Bangkok supporting anti government supporters (basically abusing public funds)? <deleted>. Who says he is supporting anti-government supporters?? I don't recall the mayor coming out in the press to public ally back the supporters aims? Do you? How is providing toilets as sign of support? Perhaps you'd prefer to see people defecating in the street? Is that really the level you wish to see Thailand stoop to? And as for abusing public money - These are public toilets he is providing - so anyone can use them - even you!! Hardly an abuse of funds for personal gain and enrichment is it. This appears to be an attempt at PTP to stir trouble - so much for a mature government which seeks reconciliation to benefit of the people of Thailand 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fab4 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 (edited) In the democracy we know as Thailand, people have the constitutional right to demonstrate. The governor of Bangkok is merely doing his job by seeing that said demonstrators are provided with portable toilets. Being a responsible governor, even though of the Democrat persuasion, he would provide the same for "Red Shirt" or PTP demonstrators (and did in 2011). He is not demonstrating political bias but sound management of the city and that area. In other words, he is doing his job. Mr Prompong Noparrot is merely proving the old saying " it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool"....etc. He wasn't so amenable in 2009. However, back to the present day, there is a certain point to be made that when one or two major groups of anti government protesters have been persuaded to go back to Lumpini Park that a responsible Mayor of Bangkok would provide the facilities there rather than an area that had been chosen at the last moment precisely because it wasn't in an area covered by the ISA. ie Do not encourage more potential flashpoints then there already are. Remember the Peoples Army calling on the students to join them in Lumpini Park? http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Students-ready-to-join-Peoples-Army-ralliesThaikor-30212660.html Well they're here now and it isn't at Lumpini Students who opposed retreat to Lumpini Park draw further support http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/674638-students-who-opposed-retreat-to-lumpini-park-draw-further-support/#entry6924602 Edited October 15, 2013 by fab4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soi41 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Let me see if I got this right?? To use a mobile toilet provided by the BMA is a political crime. But to shit in the street is politically correct?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 In the democracy we know as Thailand, people have the constitutional right to demonstrate. The governor of Bangkok is merely doing his job by seeing that said demonstrators are provided with portable toilets. Being a responsible governor, even though of the Democrat persuasion, he would provide the same for "Red Shirt" or PTP demonstrators (and did in 2011). He is not demonstrating political bias but sound management of the city and that area. In other words, he is doing his job. Mr Prompong Noparrot is merely proving the old saying " it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool"....etc. He wasn't so amenable in 2009. However, back to the present day, there is a certain point to be made that when one or two major groups of anti government protesters have been persuaded to go back to Lumpini Park that a responsible Mayor of Bangkok would provide the facilities there rather than an area that had been chosen at the last moment precisely because it wasn't in an area covered by the ISA. ie Do not encourage more potential flashpoints then there already are. Remember the Peoples Army calling on the students to join them in Lumpini Park? http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Students-ready-to-join-Peoples-Army-ralliesThaikor-30212660.html Well they're here now and it isn't at Lumpini Would you prefer it at Ratchaprasong? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fab4 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 He wasn't so amenable in 2009. However, back to the present day, there is a certain point to be made that when one or two major groups of anti government protesters have been persuaded to go back to Lumpini Park that a responsible Mayor of Bangkok would provide the facilities there rather than an area that had been chosen at the last moment precisely because it wasn't in an area covered by the ISA. ie Do not encourage more potential flashpoints then there already are. Remember the Peoples Army calling on the students to join them in Lumpini Park? http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Students-ready-to-join-Peoples-Army-ralliesThaikor-30212660.html Well they're here now and it isn't at Lumpini Would you prefer it at Ratchaprasong? Not up to me. It just seems strange to me if you have originally arranged to negotiate a demonstration area like Lumpini why then go and encourage other demonstration sites around the city? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Curt1591 Posted October 15, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2013 Do you honestly see nothing wrong with the Mayor of Bangkok supporting anti government supporters (basically abusing public funds)? <deleted>. By the same token can you, do you condone the rampant corruption that is being conducted by this government under the orders of their criminally convicted bail jumping renegade puppet master ? Government = Corruption, no matter who's in charge 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thaddeus Posted October 15, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2013 I don't know where to start with this, I really don't. Because you haven't been told what to say yet? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 PTP always whining about something or another. And if he is helping the protestors, so what? They're exercising their right to protest and unlike the red idiots, they're neither threatening anyone nor breaking any laws. "And if he is helping the protestors, so what" Do you honestly see nothing wrong with the Mayor of Bangkok supporting anti government supporters (basically abusing public funds)? <deleted>. When the red one, 2010 demonstrated against the elected government it was all about Democracy in the eyes of the PTP. When now this group demonstrate against the elected government so it must be for Democracy as well. If the Mayor of Bangkok supports that, the PTP, Dr. Weng, Arisaman and all the others must be happy to see that, or? They are against double standards, right? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Do you honestly see nothing wrong with the Mayor of Bangkok supporting anti government supporters (basically abusing public funds)? <deleted>. By the same token can you, do you condone the rampant corruption that is being conducted by this government under the orders of their criminally convicted bail jumping renegade puppet master ? Government = Corruption, no matter who's in charge Unfortunately yes.....and every corrupt Government should be kicked out, so the next one learns that they'll be kicked out as well if they are corrupt. But I know I have to die and be reborn several times before that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fab4 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 I don't know where to start with this, I really don't. Because you haven't been told what to say yet? What are you accusing me of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siampolee Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 It seems as if you are trifle paranoid fab4, any reason for that one asks? Perhaps you got out of bed on the wrong side today did you or is the duty of protecting the puppet master becoming a bit too taxing for you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocN Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Who TF cares? Pro- government (RED) protests...DEMS whine about it! Anti- government protests...PTT whines about it! A bunch of oversensitive p#ssies, who all should be ashamed of themselves and do something productive! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siampolee Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Who TF cares? Pro- government (RED) protests...DEMS whine about it! Anti- government protests...PTT whines about it! A bunch of oversensitive p#ssies, who all should be ashamed of themselves and do something productive! Much the same as being married in fact different themes but same old gripes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post huanga Posted October 15, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2013 Well said, if I were the leader of the protesters, after hearing this, I'd direct the crowd to change the venue to Prompong Nopparit's house and no public toilet needed. Let's see if he needs BMA's help then??? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post siampolee Posted October 15, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2013 Well said, if I were the leader of the protesters, after hearing this, I'd direct the crowd to change the venue to Prompong Nopparit's house and no public toilet needed. Let's see if he needs BMA's help then??? That would indeed be along the same lines as the leaders of the Red Shirts releasing as they did the home addresses of members of the judiciary and telling the Red Shirt faithful to go to those addresses and harass the judiciary officials. One is led to wonder how Prompong Nopparit would view that situation ? Indeed it would be a fine exercise of Red Shirt democracy being driven home to its exponents a wonderful lesson in the value of a democratic society as viewed and espoused by the Red Shirts. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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