ATM Scam in Pattaya

[MrWorldwide]

Unfortunately this is an increasing problem, not only in Thailand but worldwide.

Try to use machines within the Bank or shopping malls where they are conspicuous, Always check to see if there are any obvious scammers attached. SMS warnings are good, but my Bank only allows me to make one cash withdrawal per day anyway!

I think you mean 'skimmers attached' - the scammers are the people who attach/detach the skimmers

The cop above specialises in nabbing scammers of all persuasions, and he claims they have tracked organised syndicates (mainly Romanians, FWIW) on their way around Oz - from Perth right around to Brisbane/Gold Coast - then onto Singapore. Doesnt take Einstein to work out that Thailand must seem like paradise to them, Plenty of CCTV footage of the scumbags on YouTube.

[Wimbledon]

On a slightly different but credit card and Debit card i got in cambodia they have my photo on my cards ! I thought this was a little help up the ladder for security !

[hawker9000]

On a slightly different but credit card and Debit card i got in cambodia they have my photo on my cards ! I thought this was a little help up the ladder for security !

Well, unless ATMs are being upgraded with facial recognition capability, how does that help exactly?

[wprime]

Is it a Thai account? You will need to take the matter up with your bank first to recover the money. Tell them what happened - the bank will conduct their investigation, look into the ATMs you withdrew from to see if there's a common pattern of fraud from users of that ATM, they will look at your history to see if you're commonly a victim of such fraud, they will look at the locations money was withdrawn without authorisation from your account, they will review the method of authorisation at each of these events, then they will invariably rule that this occurred due to your negligence and refuse to compensate you.

After this lengthy several month process you can take it up with the government department that assists with ATM fraud (forgot what it was called). They will conduct their investigation and if others were defrauded from that ATM, they will likely rule in your favour and order the bank to compensate you. The bank will then refuse and depending on the size of the stolen money, the office will either sue the bank or send you on your merry way telling you it's not worth recovering.

If it is a foreign account then you will need to take the matter up with the bank in your home country. Depending on the country this can be a very pain-free process and your money is usually returned within days.

[Dietmar Dzieyk]

I want to know, what kind of documents you need for getting money from Western Union.

There was payed money to the name of my former girl-ladyboy -friend Siliyakron Bootgan. I have not transferred the money, of what it is said I have sent it to her.

I was living with her in one room, when suddenly I saw, she must got money in three illegal transfers.

She told me, she didn't take the money and it is only necessary to have the code for getting the money. I don't know, the phone with all my codes was hacked, or the homepage of western union was hacked.

WU has no support, it is an absolute stupid and crazy company in this case. I never will use it more. No answer, no support, ignored all wishes for help up to now.

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[MrWorldwide]

You need a photo ID and the transfer details, most importantly the MTCN.

https://wumt.westernunion.com/info/howToPickUpMT.asp?country=TH#

[Beetlejuice]

Similar happened to me last year when I was using a Bangkok bank ATM machine located outside of a Bangkok Bank branch in Chiang Mai.

There were 2 ATM machines literally at elbow distance apart. I placed my ATM card into the machine then a Thai man approached the ATM next to it and instead of making any transactions he just stared over at the screen on the machine I was using. I hesitated for a couple of minutes and the man did not move. So I decided not to key in my password, withdrew my card and went somewhere else.

Using ATMs can no longer be considered as safe and secure. I usually make my withdrawals directly from the bank, just taking out enough to last for a couple of weeks and only keep my ATM card for use in absolute emergencies as a last resort if need be. Although not so convenient as an ATM and of course there are the risks of being mugged for your money, it is still the best of 2 evils.

[JLCrab]

Whenever I access via ATM my USA bank into which has only been transferred enough for the month, I always use a Bank office ATM (in case the machine ever swallows the card) around 6AM after the crooks have called it a night.

[kjhbigv]

The 'spray' thing is straight out of the movies - on an ATM keypad, every number would have fingerprints - totally different to the keypad on a door used to access a building. Paranoia, IMO, but I'm sure crooks have tried something similar - never underestimate them.

A thief only needs to spray a substance or use a light dusting of powder to coat the keypad. He does this and waits for the next customer.

The next customer arrives, punches in his four digit PIN, takes his money and leaves. The four keys that the customer pressed now show clearly to the thief. The thief can now try combinations of the four numbers until he gets the correct PIN.

Wipe all the keys before you leave. It could be the step that saves you a lot of trouble..

"The thief can now try combinations of the four numbers until he gets the correct PIN."

With a 4 digit PIN, that is 10,000 different combinations! Going to take a while!

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[Bucko]

Is it possible to set up Kbank to send alert if an ATM is used, just been looking at the site and can't see anything

Kasikorn can be done in seconds via the ATM, you,ll get an sms the second the balance changes, what amount followed by a second message a little later with current balance.

CharlieH--

when you get the message about a withdrawal--and if it is a fraudulent one --does the message give you an option to freeze your account immediately by return sms---that would be very useful-- if I/we are a long from the nearest bank-no internet etc.--I imagine it would be difficult to freeze the account by telephone ? -going by my experience trying to talk to a Thai bank on other matters--always been asked to come in with I.D -- bank book etc

[JLCrab]

The 'spray' thing is straight out of the movies - on an ATM keypad, every number would have fingerprints - totally different to the keypad on a door used to access a building. Paranoia, IMO, but I'm sure crooks have tried something similar - never underestimate them.

A thief only needs to spray a substance or use a light dusting of powder to coat the keypad. He does this and waits for the next customer.

The next customer arrives, punches in his four digit PIN, takes his money and leaves. The four keys that the customer pressed now show clearly to the thief. The thief can now try combinations of the four numbers until he gets the correct PIN.

Wipe all the keys before you leave. It could be the step that saves you a lot of trouble..

"The thief can now try combinations of the four numbers until he gets the correct PIN."

With a 4 digit PIN, that is 10,000 different combinations! Going to take a while!

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After 3 incorrect tries the machine will swallow the card.

[hawker9000]

Is it possible to set up Kbank to send alert if an ATM is used, just been looking at the site and can't see anything

Kasikorn can be done in seconds via the ATM, you,ll get an sms the second the balance changes, what amount followed by a second message a little later with current balance.

CharlieH--

when you get the message about a withdrawal--and if it is a fraudulent one --does the message give you an option to freeze your account immediately by return sms---that would be very useful-- if I/we are a long from the nearest bank-no internet etc.--I imagine it would be difficult to freeze the account by telephone ? -going by my experience trying to talk to a Thai bank on other matters--always been asked to come in with I.D -- bank book etc

No - no such option. KBank used to provide this alert service for free; as of just last month, they began charging 200B per year. If you've been using the free service, you'll get an SMS saying the alert service has been cancelled. You can then go to an ATM and reactivate it (and you'll be advised of the fee). Google "kbank transaction alert" (or something similar) and you'll be able to find the kbank webpage that explains all.

[Dietmar Dzieyk]

When you meet her, go away, very far. Her/his promises, tears, kisses, hugs, <deleted>, -----all are lies. Nothing is true. Outside nice, face also, but only with make up. She needs no sex, all is only to get money. When you have nothing more, you are only chit for her. To destroy someone life is a game. Don't care, she will said to you then.

I was more than one year together, in reality in BKK, in all 3 years. I know about her all. Lost life.

She is a perfect actor. I never believed, some is able to lie so perfectly, with all kinds of tricks. She will have beside you other friends. Have one real friend in UK. Send her money monthly and goes on travel all the time, doing all.

I have paid her pussy. She is <deleted> around with it. Thank you for reading.

[Dietmar Dzieyk]

She is calling Siliyakron Bootjan.

[infinity11]

no time to read three pages

thanks OP for the warning

in cases like these, you might want to jump the Que (at police) or make a few phone calls

or post here first

not sure that any of this will help though

some of this may have already been covered here not sure

only keep in the one atm account what you will withdraw at that time

however there is the issue of online transfer account access safety

i got scammed too a while back

BTW how did THIS scam work?

how did they access the account or hard to say?

[HCB]

I had that experience last a few months in Bkk but bank return me money because at ATM machines there are cameras, then bank can check who withdraw the money out. I guess the scammers stick on the camera at the ATM machine and you not closed when you pressed your 4 digits code then easy for them to get money .You should keep all ATM receipts and informed to the bank and then informed to the police that is all. You should ask Bank to check for you and ask your money return from them.

[Aussieroaming]

Lovely..Indian vs eastern bloc scammer...epic....

Just joking but India has it's own bad rep, capiche?

[crickets]

Bangkok bank have a sim chip on there atm card. Cant be copied.

[Dietmar Dzieyk]

It's not necessary to have the Pin.

I have given in the card only, came out, and after this missing 3.600 €.

Card was copied.

Good, I got all back from my bank after returning, waiting only one month.

[CharlieH]

Dont see any point in reviving a 2 year old thread.

If there is something new /relevant etc then start a new one in the appropriate forum

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