sprq Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Sounds reasonable to me. The guy must be very sensible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sprq Posted October 19, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2013 What I really don't understand nor comprehend is why so many people here are getting irate at what other people think or write? Firstly, what other people think is none of your business until made public here. So when somebody writes down their particular thoughts whether it's about the irony of the lady dying in a soap opera kind of way because of a soap opera or intended light heartedness which fails in your own opinion..... So what? I thought the idea was to comment on the OP not on other's opinions etc? Read what you want to read, write what you want to write and jog on! There are a lot of po-faced people on Thaivisa who lack a sense of humour or an understanding of irony. Some of them seem to sit around all day waiting for a story to stick 'RIP' on. My view is that absolutely anything in this world can be joked about, but you need to be careful about timing and context. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Psychopath Husband Kills Wife For Being Addicted To A Soap Opera Another shocking example of trial by media. In Thailand, as in most civilised countries, alleged criminals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. The presumption of innocence is enshrined in both the Constitution in the Criminal Procedure Code. Either the editor is unaware of this fact (in which case he should not be in charge of a newspaper) or the Bangkok Post is deliberately flouting the law (in which case it should be prosecuted for contempt of court). If the accused is indeed guilty of this horrendous crime, the Bangkok Post has handed him an opportunity to avoid conviction and punishment by claiming that this biased publicity has negated any chance of a fair trial. The general assumption by Forum posters of the man's guilt is almost as striikng as the banality and callousness of some of the comments on this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KuhnPaen Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 It's almost like...the plot of a Thai soap opera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Psychopath Husband Kills Wife For Being Addicted To A Soap Opera Another shocking example of trial by media. In Thailand, as in most civilised countries, alleged criminals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. The presumption of innocence is enshrined in both the Constitution in the Criminal Procedure Code. Either the editor is unaware of this fact (in which case he should not be in charge of a newspaper) or the Bangkok Post is deliberately flouting the law (in which case it should be prosecuted for contempt of court). If the accused is indeed guilty of this horrendous crime, the Bangkok Post has handed him an opportunity to avoid conviction and punishment by claiming that this biased publicity has negated any chance of a fair trial. The general assumption by Forum posters of the man's guilt is almost as striikng as the banality and callousness of some of the comments on this case. Oh dear.... another one on a moral crusade, Mary whitehouse would be proud of you The primary failing I see in your diatribe is assuming Thailand is a civliised country, but seeing as you are on a moral crusade, may I humbly suggest you forward your remarks to Thailands finest, they have no problem with the concept of your presumed gulit and you have to prove your innocence.. Further as regards the BP handing someone an apportunity to avoid conviction, your assuming the guilty party can even read English properly, and is a regular reader... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emdog Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Okay, I'll step in it too. Correct me if I am wrong, but I think Dr. Robert's avatar is from Monty Python sketch about bureau of complaints vs bureau of arguments. "We're having an argument", No we aren't, "Yes we are" etc. It is not about our true savior and lord, whichever one you happen to believe in based on brain washing and culture. Now..... yes, we could all hold our hats and say "it's a terrible shame", which it is. But if you have been here long enough, it is sort of a "what else is new?" attitude that sets in. We can laugh or cry. I prefer a laugh, defensive reaction though that may be. What else can you do? Improve education? Implore Thais to learn anger management? We know how well that has gone over..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximillian Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 A sad story indeed. But to read all your comments is amusing me. Krataiboy, Dr Roberts, 5555555. Anyway, I'd like to contribute my two cents too. Didn't watch TV in my home country for the last 14 years before I came to Thailand. Here in Thailand TV is omnipresent and for sure the last thing I'd like to have in my house. That's the reason why my first Thai g/f left me. She said, she wants to enjoy her life. Go ahead, I told her, if watching TV, sitting down for hours, starring at a screen is enjoying life, then enjoy it without me. My new g/f was told in the beginning, TV or me. She chose me. 55 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMarlow Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 you think it's pompous drivel to provide some decency and a modicum of moral fibre to ameliorate insensitive commentary ? Ad hominem abuse in response is very revealing of you and your capacity for reasoned argument. You provide support for the indefensible, glibly pass off the levity underpinning the senseless loss of life of a defenceless woman in these posts and my critique of that's pompous huh? You might like to reflect on what you are saying in the cold light of sobriety, if you have the capacity to, and hope no one notices such limited scope and range of your thinking. I wholeheartedly agree!! not with you but with "lastbastion" you do write pompous drivel You are right, the posts are written in an irritatingly pompous manner but it's certainly not drivel. At least, unlike a lot of ThaiVisa posters that do spout drivel (and I'm not referring to you), he can put a sentence together that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estrada Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 That's why I don't have a TV... But he better beat the TV... And you see, TV make your brain, look like grey gelatine. Why she not close? But this is TV. Why does Thai Visa make your brain look like gelatine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxYakov Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 I love Thai soaps. Whenever there is a gunfight they never have to reload. Lol. No doubt because they're unloaded with post-processing and FX filling in the blanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GirlDrinkDrunk Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 you think it's pompous drivel to provide some decency and a modicum of moral fibre to ameliorate insensitive commentary ? Ad hominem abuse in response is very revealing of you and your capacity for reasoned argument. You provide support for the indefensible, glibly pass off the levity underpinning the senseless loss of life of a defenceless woman in these posts and my critique of that's pompous huh? You might like to reflect on what you are saying in the cold light of sobriety, if you have the capacity to, and hope no one notices such limited scope and range of your thinking.I wholeheartedly agree!! not with you but with "lastbastion" you do write pompous drivel You are right, the posts are written in an irritatingly pompous manner but it's certainly not drivel. At least, unlike a lot of ThaiVisa posters that do spout drivel (and I'm not referring to you), he can put a sentence together that makes sense. indeed, however this is not the place to practice prose for your doctoral thesis. i know plenty of ten dollar words, however i dont feel the need to use them all in each and every post i write. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingdoc Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 This is certainly a tragic case, but for reference, which soap opera was it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toscano Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 I expect she was addicted to channel 7 . So much violence in every episode , I cannot understand why Thai women like it so much . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggusoil Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 I don't think it was the Soap Opera. Thai men just like beating their wives... I gave my wife's niece a 1000 baht when I first met her. The next day I saw her with a black eye. My wife told me that her niece spent all the money on baby formula, her husband got mad and punched her in the face because he wanted some of the money to buy beer. This is pretty much on song. One reason farang men are popular with the ladies is not just because of money. Next to Thai men, most farangs, even the bad ones are relatively nice. Patsies. This is an unfortunately bad post to extemporise on these mores. . . because these deaths are not uncommon. This is a tough country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Okay, I'll step in it too. Correct me if I am wrong, but I think Dr. Robert's avatar is from Monty Python sketch about bureau of complaints vs bureau of arguments. "We're having an argument", No we aren't, "Yes we are" etc. It is not about our true savior and lord, Ok will correct you...the reference didnt relate to this Python sketch, but to the classic movie Python were involved in called the Life of Brian....you know the one...."He is not the messiah...he's a very naughty boy" and if you are aware of this movie, you will be aware of the moral outrage/calls of blasphamy etc etc for not treating a highly emotive subject with sympathy, but as another poster point out Jesus Christ wasnt even mentioned in the movie per se and any direct reference was treated with sympathetically and the theme had nothing to do with JC...the movie was full of black/gallows humour I suppose I should stop saying "black humour" as well...as guess I will be accused of racist remarks by some of the more morally outraged members 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuban Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Firstly RIP to the lady concerned, you should not have stayed with this person. Has anyone done the "...sounds like a soap opera plot..." gag? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackr Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 just as well as those who write perfect English. Thanks for the compliment, no one has ever said I write perfect English before.... I am not even an "English" teacher, maybe a new career path for me perhaps.. Personally I prefer someone making black humour type comments over someone who posts mock sympathy and mock outrage in their posts wouldnt you agree..? Mawkishness, they call it. There's a lot of it around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 It's almost like...the plot of a Thai soap opera. Almost, but not quite. In the plot of a Thai soap opera just before the crazy husband is about to land the fatal blow to wife watching soap, a handsome stud kicks the door down and saves the wife, also flogs pick-handles out of crazy husband. You are right, the posts are written in an irritatingly pompous manner but it's certainly not drivel. At least, unlike a lot of ThaiVisa posters that do spout drivel (and I'm not referring to you), he can put a sentence together that makes sense. Makes sense my arse ! Half the bloody words he used in his posts are not even in the dictionary, I spent half and hour trying to look them up. I think he just made them up in an attempt to make innocent TV members look stupid. And remember this Dr Condescending, it is not guns that kill people, it is Thai soap operas that kill people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCFC Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 I have every sympathy with the bloke, murdering her was a bit much though, why not just smash up the TV? oh it's on youtube as well, my mrs watches lakorn on the the tv then switches to the laptop in the small hours. my gf exactly the same. I walked out 2 months ago over her head completely buried in youtube. I haven't been back since. I guess that makes her my ex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zziffle Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 you think it's pompous drivel to provide some decency and a modicum of moral fibre to ameliorate insensitive commentary ? ... No no, nothing pompous here. Thank you for your moral guidance and posting instructions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Robert Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 you think it's pompous drivel to provide some decency and a modicum of moral fibre to ameliorate insensitive commentary ? ... No no, nothing pompous here. Thank you for your moral guidance and posting instructions. phhhht...he he he, you gotta laugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Soap operas actually cause a lot of disharmony and marriage unhappiness/divorces throughout the world....the very nature is ususally based on mistrust and betrayel...some get addicted to the thought process and mix real life with the fantasy of the soaps...... RIP Mrs, and all along I have been under the misapprehension that all Thai soaps were real life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GentlemanJim Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 What I really don't understand nor comprehend is why so many people here are getting irate at what other people think or write? Firstly, what other people think is none of your business until made public here. So when somebody writes down their particular thoughts whether it's about the irony of the lady dying in a soap opera kind of way because of a soap opera or intended light heartedness which fails in your own opinion..... So what? I thought the idea was to comment on the OP not on other's opinions etc? Read what you want to read, write what you want to write and jog on! Would you say the same, if she was one of your relatives? Well the same can be said of all the millions of people that died today, yesterday and tomorrow. "how would you feel if it was one of your relatives'...probably crap, - but, well, it wasn't. Now could one of the real relatives please speak up and let us know if any of the comments are offending you. Psychopath Husband Kills Wife For Being Addicted To A Soap Opera Another shocking example of trial by media. In Thailand, as in most civilised countries, alleged criminals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. The presumption of innocence is enshrined in both the Constitution in the Criminal Procedure Code. Either the editor is unaware of this fact (in which case he should not be in charge of a newspaper) or the Bangkok Post is deliberately flouting the law (in which case it should be prosecuted for contempt of court). If the accused is indeed guilty of this horrendous crime, the Bangkok Post has handed him an opportunity to avoid conviction and punishment by claiming that this biased publicity has negated any chance of a fair trial. The general assumption by Forum posters of the man's guilt is almost as striikng as the banality and callousness of some of the comments on this case. All well and good but when someone confesses to the crime adding all of the circumstances and rationale for the murder, the 'Guilty until proved innocent' kind of thing sort of goes out the window doesn't it, even in the UK. I assume with your comments concerning the Bangkok post denying him a fair trial would be because all the Thai jury would read an English Newspaper in their own country or ...Doh! There are no jury's so you think a panel of judges in Thailand would read an english speaking newspaper and allow that to bias their opinion? I can't remember when I was in the UK ever bothering to pick up Chinese, Russian or Thai newspapers down at the newsagents to see what was happening in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim walker Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Condolences to her friends and family, a horrible shocking crime but this is the reason that the man of the house must keep the TV remote control in his possession at all times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkkbound Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Not sure how he got labelled psychopath,... but guys out of LOS take a due diligence test when investing in smart TVs, i live in London and suffer the torment of the thai soaps nightly... they should come with a warning label.!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torrens54 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 I should have done that with my ex in Australia. Probably would have got off as "Justifiable Homicide" and it would have been cheaper than divorcing the large lump of lard, that she turned into once the ring was on the finger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocN Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 What I really don't understand nor comprehend is why so many people here are getting irate at what other people think or write? Firstly, what other people think is none of your business until made public here. So when somebody writes down their particular thoughts whether it's about the irony of the lady dying in a soap opera kind of way because of a soap opera or intended light heartedness which fails in your own opinion..... So what? I thought the idea was to comment on the OP not on other's opinions etc? Read what you want to read, write what you want to write and jog on! Would you say the same, if she was one of your relatives? Well the same can be said of all the millions of people that died today, yesterday and tomorrow. "how would you feel if it was one of your relatives'...probably crap, - but, well, it wasn't. Now could one of the real relatives please speak up and let us know if any of the comments are offending you. Psychopath Husband Kills Wife For Being Addicted To A Soap Opera Another shocking example of trial by media. In Thailand, as in most civilised countries, alleged criminals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. The presumption of innocence is enshrined in both the Constitution in the Criminal Procedure Code. Either the editor is unaware of this fact (in which case he should not be in charge of a newspaper) or the Bangkok Post is deliberately flouting the law (in which case it should be prosecuted for contempt of court). If the accused is indeed guilty of this horrendous crime, the Bangkok Post has handed him an opportunity to avoid conviction and punishment by claiming that this biased publicity has negated any chance of a fair trial. The general assumption by Forum posters of the man's guilt is almost as striikng as the banality and callousness of some of the comments on this case. All well and good but when someone confesses to the crime adding all of the circumstances and rationale for the murder, the 'Guilty until proved innocent' kind of thing sort of goes out the window doesn't it, even in the UK. I assume with your comments concerning the Bangkok post denying him a fair trial would be because all the Thai jury would read an English Newspaper in their own country or ...Doh! There are no jury's so you think a panel of judges in Thailand would read an english speaking newspaper and allow that to bias their opinion? I can't remember when I was in the UK ever bothering to pick up Chinese, Russian or Thai newspapers down at the newsagents to see what was happening in the world. It is totally senseless to discuss this any further! When I call a poster an idiot, because he makes an idiotic remark- I get a suspension for 5 days! When a bunch of mor...people with no taste...make a stupid jokes about a killed person...well...life goes on! Yeah- you would feel crap, if it was one of your relatives. And you would be offended! And rightfully so! But hey...since it doesn't concern you personally: who gives a sh1t!? If some foreigner dies in Thailand, we are all so oooooooooooh about it! "Please be respectful...his relatives may read this!" Last example: the plane crash in Laos! But since this is a Thai- incident, we can just god and hack and slash and be "funny" as much as we want, right!? As I said: senseless! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GentlemanJim Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 DocN I hope you made the most of today in order to relax before the start of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sms747 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 When I call a poster an idiot, because he makes an idiotic remark- I get a suspension for 5 days! Quite right too, there is never a good reason for rudeness and abuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwanting Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 The overall experience here seems to be that there is a large majority of women among those who look on these soap operas. It is strange because the women there are described as helpless and weak geese. Is that a Thai women's ideal? Just try to see and listen to an episode and notice how the women beeping and screaming and cat fighting. I have never seen such a thing in reality. I say nothing about the general quality of the films. Nothing about acting and nothing about directing. Nothing about the effects. I just think a lot. "Keep thai people uneducated, poor and happy and you will also retain the power over them." It's not me who said it originally, but it is of course a truth in this statement. Soap operas keep at least part of the people happy and nobody more educated. On the contrary - they are stupidifying! (Blame Google Translate for poor English in this post!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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