Nickymaster Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 (edited) Well the Dems are busy pressuring the court to dissolve PT, so did anyone not expect a response? In what way? I have not seen any evidence of the Dems camped outside the court or homes of the judges nor have they given out addresses. They have repeatedly said that they want to give the constitution court the support to make the right decision. The reds have said that they are interested in the courts decision. Both meanings are the same and that is obvious to everyone: we want a decision favouring us and after Wassant's interview both sides know that decisions based on politics, and street demos and not law happen. In fact it is no surprise that both sides take to the streets after what Wassant said. To understand the subtexts and how these things work PAD Sondhi statements before he was shot in the head are revealing along with lots of wikileaks too). The context is important and does anyone think the players are neutral (check polls on what the Thai people think of some of the courts, or just listen to Wassant on the perception of the court he used to head. "The reds have said that they are interested in the courts decision." The Reds have said a lot of things or rather their leaders have. There are many memorable quotes from the Red's leaders and many that are recorded on youtube. The Reds like this, like that, agree with this don't agree with that..... Their leaders always act as if the Reds are 10 years old. The leaders decide... Edited November 18, 2013 by Nickymaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 "Anuwat said that the red-shirts wanted to just observe the ruling, without any intention to put pressure on the Court" Liar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NongKhaiKid Posted November 18, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted November 18, 2013 "Anuwat said that the red-shirts wanted to just observe the ruling, without any intention to put pressure on the Court which should have liberty in its deliberation." Looks like troops of advance red shirts are being assembled and moved for the battle to come. Will anyone from government suggest that their ranks include ' unemployed and drug addicts ' ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mampara Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 (edited) I wonder who's paying for this...... Thats the big question on almost everyones minds. who is the man behind "RentaMob" not the man outside the country, but the man inside the country. if we could give a name then we will know who is the instigator is of all the political strife we are having, because he knows that clashes between the two mobs are invertible. which leaves one thought, is this the final throes of a dying effort? "all or nothing attitude" if it is then military intervention is the only solution. Edited November 18, 2013 by Mampara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Posts with large font and reply have been deleted. Please use the default font when posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowhereman60 Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I wonder who's paying for this...... width=19 alt=whistling.gif> Could it be the same people who are paying for the Dems protest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emptyset Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Well the Dems are busy pressuring the court to dissolve PT, so did anyone not expect a response? In what way? I have not seen any evidence of the Dems camped outside the court or homes of the judges nor have they given out addresses. They have repeatedly said that they want to give the constitution court the support to make the right decision. The reds have said that they are interested in the courts decision. Both meanings are the same and that is obvious to everyone: we want a decision favouring us and after Wassant's interview both sides know that decisions based on politics, and street demos and not law happen. In fact it is no surprise that both sides take to the streets after what Wassant said. To understand the subtexts and how these things work PAD Sondhi statements before he was shot in the head are revealing along with lots of wikileaks too). The context is important and does anyone think the players are neutral (check polls on what the Thai people think of some of the courts, or just listen to Wassant on the perception of the court he used to head. Yes, there's also a lot of talk of 'hidden hands' again on the social media and the like. But no one should worry about street protesters pressuring the court, the judges are apparently being well looked after: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I think it is time to baton down the hatches... It may be rent'a'mob, they may be intimidating, they may have a few fire crackers... But it has been a few years since the last "Coup d'etat" so the next one is long overdue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwyn Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Didn't know the reds are also legal experts. I always thought that their field of expertise was setting things on fire. BAZINGA!!! great answer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwyn Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 (edited) wow Edited November 18, 2013 by Alwyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NongKhaiKid Posted November 18, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted November 18, 2013 Just a thought but will TAT count them as tourist arrivals in the capital ? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moruya Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Well the Dems are busy pressuring the court to dissolve PT, so did anyone not expect a response? In what way? I have not seen any evidence of the Dems camped outside the court or homes of the judges nor have they given out addresses. Typical daengophile post. The red faction have come to watch over the judges and will storm the court if the decision goes against them Read the quotes from them if you put your monocle back on 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waza Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 (edited) I wonder who's paying for this...... Thats the big question on almost everyones minds. who is the man behind "RentaMob" not the man outside the country, but the man inside the country. if we could give a name then we will know who is the instigator is of all the political strife we are having, because he knows that clashes between the two mobs are invertible. which leaves one thought, is this the final throes of a dying effort? "all or nothing attitude" if it is then military intervention is the only solution. A cynical person would suggest that the Thai tax payers are funding the "rentathug" through the corrupted funds in the governments war chest. But fair warning this is going to get messy. How do I know? "Nov 15, 2013: BANGKOK (AP) The daughters of Thailand's self-exiled former leader Thaksin Shinawatra have criticized an online leak of flight details showing they flew first-class to London with eight suitcases. But they denied they were following their father's footsteps and fleeing the country......"(I'm) not seeking asylum," Paetongtarn said on Instagram. "(I'm) here for six days to work."......A Thai Airways official said the pair had checked more than 150 kilograms (330 pounds) of baggage and were seated in first class......Older sister Pintongta posted a picture of herself strolling along a sidewalk in a Chanel scarf and carrying a Hermes' Birkin bag. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11157971 Fair enough I guess we all would take 150kg of luggage for a 5 day trip. Bring daddy some money Edited November 18, 2013 by waza 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Local Drunk Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I wonder who's paying for this...... Thats the big question on almost everyones minds. who is the man behind "RentaMob" not the man outside the country, but the man inside the country. if we could give a name then we will know who is the instigator is of all the political strife we are having, because he knows that clashes between the two mobs are invertible. which leaves one thought, is this the final throes of a dying effort? "all or nothing attitude" if it is then military intervention is the only solution. A cynical person would suggest that the Thai tax payers are funding the "rentathug" through the corrupted funds in the governments war chest. But fair warning this is going to get messy. How do I know? "The daughters of Thaksin Shinawatra have lashed out at the online leak of details of their first-class flight to London with eight suitcases." Their father left Thailand for the US and had his 114 suitcases sent to London 2 days via Thai Airways before the coup... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Businessman Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 We all know exactly how much the current government/reds respects courts and rule of law. If the ruling is in their favor then the ruling is just. If the ruling is not in their favor, then it is wrong and thus null and void. Examples ICJ Preah Vihear temple, Taxin's criminal conviction. Why do the reds need to come? The only possible outcome is the one they want. What the the court says is moot. I think they are are just looking for a reason to riot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xenophon Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 The kingdom is ranked at about the same level as the worst African countries on the Anti-Corruption Index and on the World Competitiveness scale. With political behavior like we have seen recently and this assembly of the mob, the country is becoming more like West Africa every day. What next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacovl46 Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Why are they even coming? They have no reason to be there. I guess 30 million Baht is a compelling enough offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Siripon Posted November 18, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted November 18, 2013 Whichever way the court rules it's an absolute disgrace Pheua Thai voted to allow siblings of MPs to stand as senators. Wake up red shirts, you claim to believe in democracy, how is having an MP's wife, husband, brother, mother,sister etc as a senator going to help checks and balances? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostmebike Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 We all know exactly how much the current government/reds respects courts and rule of law. If the ruling is in their favor then the ruling is just. If the ruling is not in their favor, then it is wrong and thus null and void. Examples ICJ Preah Vihear temple, Taxin's criminal conviction. Why do the reds need to come? The only possible outcome is the one they want. What the the court says is moot. I think they are are just looking for a reason to riot. Seems that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gleeglee Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 "Anuwat said that the red-shirts wanted to just observe the ruling, without any intention to put pressure on the Court which should have liberty in its deliberation." Looks like troops of advance red shirts are being assembled and moved for the battle to come. That is what all the excess baggage was when Thaksin's daughters flew to England a limit of 40 kg first class i believe they both had over 110 kg , must have been cash to pay for the protest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnlandy Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 That's nice of them, I hope they keep to their word. What are you tying to say ' honest Thai protestors' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waza Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 "Police beef up security at Constitutional CourtThe NationBANGKOK: -- Police were Monday dispatched to beef up security at the Constitutional Court ahead of a ruling on charter amendments on Wednesday.Police put up barricades at the stairways of the court and at the front gate. Police also used inmate trucks to block the entrance to the court and prohibited parking in front of the court." That a bit different to the anti-government protestors welcome....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman1666 Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I wonder who's paying for this...... That was my first question! I always wonder how these poor Isaan farmers can afford to Bangkok and take ti.e off work. Particularly at this time of year with rice to harvest. Maybe a rich sponsor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hammered Posted November 18, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted November 18, 2013 I wonder who's paying for this...... That was my first question! I always wonder how these poor Isaan farmers can afford to Bangkok and take ti.e off work. Particularly at this time of year with rice to harvest. Maybe a rich sponsor? Most of the people at red rallies in BKK either come from Bangkok or from surrounding industrial provinces. Sure a few bus loads of farmers are brought in, just as Suthep buses in a bunches of southerner farmers. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeO Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 bigbamboo, on 18 Nov 2013 - 11:49, said: I wonder who's paying for this...... As I posted elsewhere, it's very simple really. Answer the following two question to get the answer. Who will the red rallies benefit the most? Who has their hands on (in) the public purse? Answer to both questions, the PT Govt. So where will the funding for the 500b PP and the rest of the expenses like busses, food, sound systems, and all the rest come from? You got it, the long suffering tax payer. Funny, isn't it, how the PTP argued that it was illegal and/or impeachable for the Democrats to provide Portaloo toilets for anti-government demonstrators, but it's a different story, yet again, when red shirt demonstrators are involved. You can bet that there will be no call for a certain person overseas and his sister here not to provide the means for these people to invade Bangkok again...!! The usual hypocrisy and double standards from this shambolic mob loosely referred to as a government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schondie Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I wonder who's paying for this...... That was my first question! No doubt in my mind..only one sneaky snake would rent such a mob... That is an insult to snakes, sneaky or not. Couldn't you have chosen something far worse, a cockroach or some type of parasite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post millwall_fan Posted November 18, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted November 18, 2013 Good! There will be more Reds to witness "real democracy according to the Constitution" when the government is dissolved on Wednesday. The 2007 is completely undemocratic. It was 'voted on' under military rule, it was illegal to campaign against it and the underground 'no' campaign had no access to air time. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tragickingdom Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 The Reds only come out to check if the court is doing it's work, which is understandable giving their love relation with the Yellows. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodolly Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 "Anuwat said that the red-shirts wanted to just observe the ruling, without any intention to put pressure on the Court which should have liberty in its deliberation." alt=biggrin.png width=20 height=20> alt=tongue.png width=20 height=20> alt=laugh.png width=20 height=20> alt=cheesy.gif width=32 height=20> Looks like troops of advance red shirts are being assembled and moved for the battle to come. How do they figure on getting 30,000 people into the building where they can all see the action? Typical red shirt thinking or should I say lack of? I wonder who's paying for this...... width=19 alt=whistling.gif> At a guess I would say that the money is coming from the man in Dubai. One would think that the morons would wonder in a city the size of Bangkok they have to go to Issan to get 30,000 people to look at a building. Also is Yingluck going to investigate the backer and charge him with money laundering? Anuwat said that the red-shirts wanted to just observe the ruling, without any intention to put pressure on the Court which should have liberty in its deliberation. I bet they already have huge signs with the phone numbers and addresses of the judges. I don't think the court will pass it. Now if it was Abhist or Suthep throwing a candy wrapper on the ground they would have them investigated and charged with littering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodolly Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Well the Dems are busy pressuring the court to dissolve PT, so did anyone not expect a response? Pay attention. Did you think that the Dems were going to ignore the PTPredshirts when they tried to get the Dem's disbanded? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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