My Options as A Farang woman marrying a Thai Guy

[snowpea83]

WOW!

Didn't see that coming! I put my original post in the ladies forum for a reason, but I guess there's just no avoiding some types of people......

Thanks Boo for your great moderation! And thanks to people like Lucie for their well informed and kind responses. It definitely seems an extension based on marriage is the way to go.

And just for all the haters out there, YES I speak Thai and my partner English, YES I can read and write Thai (albeit quite slowly), YES I am a well educated women who in no way is running from anything, my partner is also highly educated, and YES YES YES my partner is supportive, patient and damn good looking!

Sophie

[sbk]

Post discussing moderation removed. If you have questions regarding moderation please PM a mod but do not hijack the thread, thanks. Its not about moderation its about the OP's visa options, thanks

[Tomtomtom69]

There is an option to apply for permanent residency or citizenship a few years down the line, but I have never felt the need - although it's cheap and easy for natives of other Asian countries, it's extremely expensive and time-consuming for Westerners. The once-a-year extensions are easy.

Just to correct you.

There is no requirement for a married person to apply or obtain PR. (PR first was removed in 2008)

The application fee for citizenship is 5,000bht. Hardly expensive.

It is NOT true that Asians have an easier time getting Thai citizenship than westerners. Only from a societal standpoint will they not stand out as much, but as far as immigration law is concerned, basically citizenship depends on how much of a contribution the applicant has made towards Thai society. For all intents and purposes, migrant workers from such countries as Myanmar, Laos and Cambodia are effectively barred from Thai citizenship as Thailand generally prefers educated, high tax paying individuals as citizens than poor, uneducated people from these 3 countries. Even after 20 years of working in the Kingdom speaking almost fluent Thai, a Myanmar migrant worker would not be eligible for citizenship of Thailand. Westerners on the other hand can gain citizenship after only a few years provided tax receipts to a certain amount are provided as well as other eligibility requirements are met - it's even easier if marriage to a Thai national is made first. More detailed requirements on eligibility and documents required are available by searching this forum or other sources.

[sbk]

Off topic and unhelpful response removed.

Please heed previous warnings regarding this kind of thing. thanks

[atyclb]

I've removed yet more post of no benefit to the ops question.

No one cares if your wifes ex thai husband was no good, my mum married an english man who drank, took drugs, cheated & never sent any money. Maybe your wife should have avoided a western man because of it. Really. It's laughable how tiny minded some of you are.

The op didn't ask for relationship advice so go spout your views down the pub where someone might give some poos for your opinion.

"It's laughable how tiny minded some of you are."

As in "thinking with the small head"

Bravo

[96tehtarp]

WOW!

Didn't see that coming! I put my original post in the ladies forum for a reason, but I guess there's just no avoiding some types of people......

Thanks Boo for your great moderation! And thanks to people like Lucie for their well informed and kind responses. It definitely seems an extension based on marriage is the way to go.

And just for all the haters out there, YES I speak Thai and my partner English, YES I can read and write Thai (albeit quite slowly), YES I am a well educated women who in no way is running from anything, my partner is also highly educated, and YES YES YES my partner is supportive, patient and dam_n good looking!

Sophie

Go for it Sophie ! All the best to you.

It may also be easier to change employer/work permits once your extension of stay is completely separate from your work permit. You will gain flexibility and independence this way. You can tell any prospective employer that you already have an extension and they need only apply for the work permit. This might make you attractive I think.

Also if you are married I believe the ratio of 1 farang to 4 Thai employees is reduced by half. Likewise for registered capital in the business sponsoring you, 1 million instead of two mil. for people in the category of "married to Thai national" such as yourself. (If this is untrue, somebody PM me and I'll edit this post).

[mike123ca]

Get the visa based on marriage and the try to get citizenship as fast as possible. The visa is only valid during the existence of the marriage. If there is a divorce, then she will lose her marriage visa. If her husband in the unfortunate event "passes away" she will be widow and will be in need of a new visa because the non O is void because the marriage no longer exists.

As a backup plan, if my wife was to pass away, I keep 800,000 baht in a bank account here in Thailand which I would use to switch over to a retirement visa. Most marriages the woman will out live the husband so she should also be looking at other visa options if the marriage no longer exists.

[Raesum]

Hi Sophie,

I have been in Thailand for 17 years, and was on a non-immigrant B visa for a few years while working. Then when I married, I went and got a non-immigrant O visa instead, which is easy as long as you find out beforehand what documents they need (loads, but not generally hard to find).

While foreign men married to Thai women need to show an income or huge savings in order to extend their visa, for once sexism works in our favour - by law, it is deemed that your husband is financially supporting you, and so you don't need to show any savings or income. You turn up once a year at the immigration office, with your husband and a pile of documents, and you get a one-year extension for 1,900 Baht. (90-day reporting still has to be done, but that can be done by post so is not a hassle).

There is an option to apply for permanent residency or citizenship a few years down the line, but I have never felt the need - although it's cheap and easy for natives of other Asian countries, it's extremely expensive and time-consuming for Westerners. The once-a-year extensions are easy.

Then if you take time off work to look after children (which I did for a year for each of my two kids) then you don't have to bother with changing visas. You can carry on renewing your O visa without a break. When you DO work, you can get a work permit on that visa, no problem.

I hope this helps!

Sophie don't forget to take a few photos of yourself and your husband around your house/accommodation when you go for that once a year extension.They also like it if you can have the house number of your address displayed in one photo.Anything to make things easier.

Don't worry about all the negative things people say about getting married to a Thai guy- I have been married for over 21 years to my Thai guy and so far, so good.!

[Goinghomesoon]

Having done both (sponsored work visa for 4 years, then a non-O) I would say it doesn't really matter unless you want to stay in Thailand long-term, and then the marriage option is probably easier - as others have pointed out, it gives you options down the track for citizenship etc.

And ignore the naysayers. There are plenty of us with brilliant Thai hubbies

[Bokchoi]

I've removed yet more post of no benefit to the ops question.

No one cares if your wifes ex thai husband was no good, my mum married an english man who drank, took drugs, cheated & never sent any money. Maybe your wife should have avoided a western man because of it. Really. It's laughable how tiny minded some of you are.

The op didn't ask for relationship advice so go spout your views down the pub where someone might give some poos for your opinion.

Marrying a Thai man makes one eligible for a residence visa. There is a process that needs to be followed and Immigration are helpful. On the other hand I know many farang women who take up a role of 'volunteer' with NGOs and get a volunteer-visa. It means doing volunteer work 2 or 3 days a week or flexi hours during the week. A nice way to support a community/cause, learn Thai, meet people and have flexi-time for home & kids. Its something to consider.

To the OP - Good luck with whoever you marry Thai or farang. Maybe you can share your experiences on another thread sometime in the future. I'd love to read it all - the good, bad and ugly !!

Edited December 29, 2013 by sbk
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[sbk]

Post edited. Bok choi I suggest read the forum rules again before you post

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?app=forums&module=extras&section=boardrules

[expat888]

As a male with a non-o, if you can meet the requirements for a non-o it is worth the trouble to obtain it. If you are working and you have problems with your job, you don't have to worry about making a visa run within the 7 days of termination. I have had employers think they have leverage over me because I had a non-b and the first thing they say is you need to leave the country. A bit intimidating when you hear it because the first thing you think of is leaving the country is permanent. You do have to leave the country but only to obtain another visa. My point is, if you are working, there is always the possibility of being terminated without notice and you have have to make that quick visa run. If you have the non-o you don't have to worry about your visa. Also, if you quit working for whatever reason you don't have to think about your visa. A little more consistency in a non-consistent world. The less stress the better.

Edited January 2, 2014 by expat888

[nuakmuaynina]

Sorry for bumping and old thread, I'm looking into this as well now, as if he can't come and live here, I will go there. If I get the marriage extension will there be any problems with me making lots of trips back to the U.K.?

[Boo]

post removed. The rules in the ladies forum are strict, very strict. Either accept or move on.