Pini Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Hello all, What's the legality of parking a home on wheels on a beach in Phuket (quiet beach, not Patong/Kata/Karon..) or a lake side etc. Will I be forced to leave by the authorities? any clear rules on that? Seems like an interesting way to live, being able to wake up in a different location/sceanery whenever you get tired of your current location while still haveing something which looks like a house. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Great concept, but I would suspect quite a few issues. I seriously doubt you'd be able to park on a beach, especially in Phuket. If the police didn't run you off, it'd be some local business or local resident. Or, they'd let you stay but charge you an arm and a leg to do it. My wife's aunt runs a restaurant on a lake. She pays to have her tables out there. The actual restaurant is 300 meters away or so. They bring food out by scooter and side car. Roads would be another issue. Low power lines/bridges, pot holes that eat axles, etc. Security. Toilets. Power supply. Etc. Love the idea, but Thailand's just not ready for this yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickba Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 .............................. Roads would be another issue. Low power lines/bridges, pot holes that eat axles, etc. Security. Toilets. Power supply. Etc. .......................................... Power supply especially for running the A/C full time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pini Posted December 15, 2013 Author Share Posted December 15, 2013 Thx for the comments. For the sake of argument, let's talk about a quiet, deserted location on Mai Khao beach, where there is no resteurant/hotel nearby, just you and sea and you are not interfeering with anyone's business. In most countries, a police officer/inspector will surely pay you a visit in a matter of days (if not hours) and will let you know that you are not allowed to park your home on the public location (regardless of the fact no one stay there) I can understand the logic behind it, if it would be allowed to do so, who will buy land at all?... just park your home on wheels and save the money... Just try to get all these people out from their free beachfront locations... These countries has locations which you are allowed to park your home and even get A/C and other utillities so you wound't do it in places you are not allowed to. Thailand is different as we all know and my question is, will I get visit from a Thai inspector? what the Thai law says about parking your home on a public territory such as a deserted beach spot? I have traveled alot and often I stopped at an amazing point where I said HERE, here is where I want to stay for a week, but there are no hotels in this exact location... and you know what? better that there aren't because it wouldn't feel the same if there is a hotel and 7/11 in this location. You park your home in this amazing spot and the next guy woudn't even know you were there as nothing was permenently built. How cool is that Definately agree on the low lines/bridges, route must be checked before you take your house on the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
searcher22 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 It's not doable in Thailand in my opinion. On top of the reasons already mentioned, I'd be seriously concerned for my personal safety. It could be feasible if there were some sort of trailer park facility available with some amenities, but I don't know of any in Thailand. Besides, you can find dirt-cheap accomodation in Thailand, and your way will end up costing a lot more anyway when all is said and done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 (edited) your way will end up costing a lot more anyway when all is said and done. especially if you need to go some where , and you come back only to find your home gone. Edited December 15, 2013 by sirineou 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sloopydee Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 If the Thais can't advantage because of it, you won't be able to do it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khaowong1 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 (edited) I also don't think Thailand is ready for any type of RV's yet. Security would be my main concern. Let alone, water, electric and sewer or dump stations and the road conditions. Nope.. I'm guessing, the US is the #1 RV country in the world, with Canada next.. We have RV sites everywhere. Edited December 15, 2013 by khaowong1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sloopydee Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Such sites taking off over here, and Westerners living happily in them, horrifying for the Thai authorities. They'd be scrambling over themselves to find rules against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerry123 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 + all of the above but hey everyone needs a dream start a new trend if you fancy the challenge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jaapfries Posted December 16, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 16, 2013 Even though I can not see that picture (of your Mobile Home unit), I believe this is very much a 'do-able' thing in Thailand. For starters, there are some 127 National Parks spread-out all over Thailand in some pretty seriously beautiful locations, complete with well equipped "Camp-Sites", where one could stay for any length of time. Just Google Thailand-National-Parks and I bet you that a new world will open to you. Other than that; it would be a matter of "making-friends" with people who live in desirable locations and when you have their permission to stay, you don't only not have a problem, but you would be much safer. Same for small resorts, by the way. Conclusion: Don't pay too much attention to all of the 'doom's-day-sayers' on this forum, but try to thin a little bit outside of the box. If you want some additional information on this subject, just PM me, okay ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 If you want to park at-the-beach, why not use a yacht, rather than a trailer-home ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Even though I can not see that picture (of your Mobile Home unit), I believe this is very much a 'do-able' thing in Thailand. For starters, there are some 127 National Parks spread-out all over Thailand in some pretty seriously beautiful locations, complete with well equipped "Camp-Sites", where one could stay for any length of time. Just Google Thailand-National-Parks and I bet you that a new world will open to you. Other than that; it would be a matter of "making-friends" with people who live in desirable locations and when you have their permission to stay, you don't only not have a problem, but you would be much safer. Same for small resorts, by the way. Conclusion: Don't pay too much attention to all of the 'doom's-day-sayers' on this forum, but try to thin a little bit outside of the box. If you want some additional information on this subject, just PM me, okay ? Don't want to argue with you, but I'd love to see the look on the face of the admissions agent when you drove up in one of these things! Priceless. Most campsites are in between the trees and setup for tents. And some in areas that big rigs like this could never make it. Winding roads, overhanging trees, tight corners, etc. Even in RV friendly USA, many campsites just aren't setup for rigs like this. You'd never make it in. Don't want to be a "doom's-day-sayer", but also don't want the OP to have unrealistic expectations. Perhaps a better idea would be a pickup camper? I've heard some of these are being seen around now. Much easier for navigation, but also much smaller. For a rig like this, it would be best to find some spots, get agreement, then move forward. Pick a few spots and leave it at that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianP Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I used to love "goin mobile". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ignis Posted December 16, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 16, 2013 Maybe more practical for Thailand ?? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 My last 2 rigs. Don't have a pic of my truck camper though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brit1984 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 wouldnt be legal on a public beach but as you know laws arent always strictly enforced here - for example lots of beachfront restaurants put their tables / chairs on public beaches - will very much depend on whether you gain (buy) the support of local police - but anyway you could move around until you find a spot that nobody cares about obviously as others have mentioned there are non-legal pitfalls / risks / etc and the fact that standard accommodation is available very cheap in thailand makes it fairly pointless but could be fun for the challenge of doing something different - good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayned Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 You can actually rent motor homes in Thailand. The main problem is that there are no RV parks with power hookups, water or sewage hookups. Here's a place that rents them: http://www.campermotorhomerental.com/index.php/en/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMo Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 There may also be the issue of who "owns" the beach. As I understand it from 30+ years back, all of the beaches of Thailand are owned by the King. Not sure where the beach ends and the land begins though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaurene Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Legality would be around 20-30k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 You can actually rent motor homes in Thailand. The main problem is that there are no RV parks with power hookups, water or sewage hookups. Here's a place that rents them: http://www.campermotorhomerental.com/index.php/en/ I heard about this in another thread. Maybe it was you who mentioned it? These are reasonable sized rigs for Thailand. Complete with generator and looks like an AC. They mention they have a list of dump sites. They are located here in Chonburi. I might have to stop by and see! But at 800 Euro for a week, not including gas, etc., a bit pricey. Also, they have a brochure you can download for the national parks in Thailand. It's fantastic. Thanks for sharing!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slipperylobster Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Great Concept and I like the photo. If I were to do something similar, I would modify one of those Chinese flatbeds (not overly large) with drop down sides. Extensions on both side would slide out about 4 feet....giving a total width of 12 foot (when parked). Lots of screened windows. Hopefully, it would not look like a camper when traveling or initially parked. Sounds like a nice project. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55Jay Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 My last 2 rigs. Don't have a pic of my truck camper though. Niiicccee. Baja, Sea of Cortez side in the first two photos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 My last 2 rigs. Don't have a pic of my truck camper though. Niiicccee. Baja, Sea of Cortez side in the first two photos? Yes, fantastic camping. But lately, it hasn't been safe to "wild" camp any more. The one in the middle is actually a very remote beach, but somebody still comes by to collect money every day. Who know who the owner is, but not smart to argue with them. We stayed mainly in RV camps. Nice to have electricity and sewer! And security.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccarty Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 You could probably convert a local tour bus inside and leave it looking like a tour bus outside and so long as you were not transporting tourists, you would fit right in. I see tour buses everywhere in Thailand and they park wherever they want to. The trick would be to not appear to be a home on wheels. Should not be too hard. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSure Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Why make it so eye-catching? Why not instead try to make it almost unnoticeable? How about converting a delivery van? It absolutely needs a gas powered generator to run the a/c and to take drain off the batteries. Notice that the ones for rent in the link above are very small. That works fine if you live outside in the shade of a tree or umbrella or awning. The camper just carries your ability to cook, your supplies, your a/c and a bed, etc. Your plan looks great, but I don't think Thailand is ready for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 You could probably convert a local tour bus inside and leave it looking like a tour bus outside and so long as you were not transporting tourists, you would fit right in. I see tour buses everywhere in Thailand and they park wherever they want to. The trick would be to not appear to be a home on wheels. Should not be too hard. Did you see pic 3 in my post above? It was the size of the tour buses here. An absolute nightmare to drive around. Unless staying on highways and wide roads. Impossible to fit in most national parks even in the US. We normally had to park outside and drive the car in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuban Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 You would last minutes ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignis Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 (edited) You could probably convert a local tour bus inside and leave it looking like a tour bus outside and so long as you were not transporting tourists, you would fit right in. I see tour buses everywhere in Thailand and they park wherever they want to. The trick would be to not appear to be a home on wheels. Should not be too hard. Did you see pic 3 in my post above? It was the size of the tour buses here. An absolute nightmare to drive around. Unless staying on highways and wide roads. Impossible to fit in most national parks even in the US. We normally had to park outside and drive the car in. Some are shorter and still have a car Edited December 16, 2013 by ignis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesRob Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Even though I can not see that picture (of your Mobile Home unit), I believe this is very much a 'do-able' thing in Thailand. For starters, there are some 127 National Parks spread-out all over Thailand in some pretty seriously beautiful locations, complete with well equipped "Camp-Sites", where one could stay for any length of time. Just Google Thailand-National-Parks and I bet you that a new world will open to you. Other than that; it would be a matter of "making-friends" with people who live in desirable locations and when you have their permission to stay, you don't only not have a problem, but you would be much safer. Same for small resorts, by the way. Conclusion: Don't pay too much attention to all of the 'doom's-day-sayers' on this forum, but try to thin a little bit outside of the box. If you want some additional information on this subject, just PM me, okay ? I like the idea, thought of doing this myself in other countries. Had a spell in France travelling around in a "camping car" as they call it, but France is totally geared up for that type of thing. I'd like to know how you get on. Let me know, and good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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