sticky s**t greed or desperation

[salavan]

i went the pay my bill for my internet provider today i won't mention the name of the company

paid in cash as usual bill was 635.15 just so happened that i had 1,635 baht on me gave her the 635 not happy she asking me for 1 more baht to cover the 0.15 stang kept repeating 1 baht 1 baht to me so to shut her up i gave her the 1000 she then gave me 999 baht back i know thai's worship money but seems to me the meanest people on the planet.

i was once told that for instance in a resturant you should pick up the bulk of the change and leave the small stuff as a tip amazing thailand.

oh and by the way this is not a troll

[sustento]

So you expect to pay less than you should because you don't have the right change?

[benalibina]

Breaking point in Thailand ?

[Sloopydee]

You're lucky you had it as the Thai could have killed you.

The One Baht Cop Killer

This only happened 21st August 2011. Gas station attendant (Petrol Pump Boy) shot an ex-policeman and killed him in Chanthaburi. The suspect, Rit Predatham (37) admitted that he shot him because he refused to pay the one baht extra that he had over-pumped.

http://www.chiangmaicitynews.com/news.php?id=1290

[salavan]

So you expect to pay less than you should because you don't have the right change?

rounded up or down to the nearest baht usually the point im trying to make is no give and take only take

[sustento]

So you expect to pay less than you should because you don't have the right change?

rounded up or down to the nearest baht usually the point im trying to make is no give and take only take

If the cashier is short on takings she has to make it up out of her own money. Why should she pay part of your internet bill for you?

[salavan]

So you expect to pay less than you should because you don't have the right change?

rounded up or down to the nearest baht usually the point im trying to make is no give and take only take

If the cashier is short on takings she has to make it up out of her own money. Why should she pay part of your internet bill for you?

were talking about 0.15 stang here impossible to make up that amount up as the lowest denomination is 0.25

[paz]

Don't be put off by the righteous satang counters here, reality is that she would not have lost anything, any cashier always has a little coins buffer because people leave small coins behind all the time. In the US you see it as "give a penny take a penny", In thailand you don't but is there anyway.

Nobody in Thailand makes a fuss for 15 satangs, she wanted to give you a bad time and surely had resentment toward foreigners.

Edited December 16, 2013 by paz

[sustento]

So you expect to pay less than you should because you don't have the right change?

rounded up or down to the nearest baht usually the point im trying to make is no give and take only take

If the cashier is short on takings she has to make it up out of her own money. Why should she pay part of your internet bill for you?

were talking about 0.15 stang here impossible to make up that amount up as the lowest denomination is 0.25

I think you mean 15 satang. Add all those satangs up over a year and she'd have paid quite a bit of other people's bills for them. I ask again why do you expect a stranger to help you pay your bills?

[Sloopydee]

rounded up or down to the nearest baht usually the point im trying to make is no give and take only take

If the cashier is short on takings she has to make it up out of her own money. Why should she pay part of your internet bill for you?

were talking about 0.15 stang here impossible to make up that amount up as the lowest denomination is 0.25

I think you mean 15 satang. Add all those satangs up over a year and she'd have paid quite a bit of other people's bills for them. I ask again why do you expect a stranger to help you pay your bills?

Because she was unable to give him the correct amount of change back, and short-changed him.

[Sloopydee]

So you expect to pay less than you should because you don't have the right change?

It was impossible for him to have the 'right change', also impossible for the cashier to give him the correct change.

[Thaddeus]

So you expect to pay less than you should because you don't have the right change?

It was impossible for him to have the 'right change', also impossible for the cashier to give him the correct change.

Time for a bun fight at the 'not ok corral' then?

Why do simple little problems get turned in to major issue here?

No, it's ok, the question was rhetorical.

[MAJIC]

So you expect to pay less than you should because you don't have the right change?

It was impossible for him to have the 'right change', also impossible for the cashier to give him the correct change.

To save making a big issue over 15 Satang,she could have added it on the next months bill.

Edited December 16, 2013 by MAJIC

[paz]

So you expect to pay less than you should because you don't have the right change?

It was impossible for him to have the 'right change', also impossible for the cashier to give him the correct change.

To save making a big issue over 15 Satang,she could have added it on the next months bill.

To be fair to , she could have not, utility cashiers have no power to touch accounts in any manner except register payment.

Then there is to ses if they could accept partial payments, thing that I doubt.

[HeavyDrinker]

Blimey you like to 'balance the books;' don't you?

[Trembly]

So you expect to pay less than you should because you don't have the right change?

It was impossible for him to have the 'right change', also impossible for the cashier to give him the correct change.

To save making a big issue over 15 Satang,she could have added it on the next months bill.

They could . . .

But I think the lure of penny-shaving / salami-slicing is too great.

7-11 stopped doing it for years and years and have brought it back recently, but unlike a utilities company they'd never get away with it unless they kept it within multiples of. 0.25 because they're a cash business.

Edited December 16, 2013 by Trembly

[PeterSmiles]

I think you mean 15 satang. Add all those satangs up over a year and she'd have paid quite a bit of other people's bills for them. I ask again why do you expect a stranger to help you pay your bills?

Well after all she skimmed the OP for 85 Satang since she didn't give him the change on the 1 Baht.

From what she skimmed from him she could " help " another 5 strangers to pay their bill and still have 10 Satang extra at the end of the day.

By the way, 85 Satang adds much faster up over a year than 15 Satang.

[kikoman]

Did you have access to the service which you are required to pay for over the month you were billed?

Then you owe every satang you were billed, I know of no utility company here or in the home country that will accept less then you were billed for, I find it extremely hard to believe you by chance had in your pocket the exact change except the 15 satang in question, some coincidence.

You requested the service, you received the service and "surprise" you must pay in full for the service, if you are dissatisfied with having to pay the exact same charge you have been paying. (drop that service).

You are the one that is wrong in your situation, you must pay in full the complete price of the service you receive, that you make an issue out of 15 satang, says a lot about yourself.

Cheers

[paz]

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Time for a bun fight at the 'not ok corral' then?

Why do simple little problems get turned in to major issue here?

No, it's ok, the question was rhetorical.

The real meaning of the discussion is not about 15 satangs, it's about a foreigner that got upset for the treatment received from a Thai when he tought he was in the right.

Of course, that happens millions of times every day in Thailand, for amount varying from 15 satangs to 15 million Bt. and possibly more.

What caused the reaction? Mainly, boredom, as you implicitely suggest. Then, the need to find support, albeit on a virtual venue only. Maybe, the inability to just have a laugh about it.

I've seen foreigners incensed about Thais and vice-versa. I've seen foreigners exhanging insults and blows with foreigners. I've seen foreigners being beated the shit out them by an hord of Thais.

Where all that ends? Nowhere.

What that means? Nothing.

But forums are free and so is our time in this age of exportable debauchery.

Thank you for reading.

Edited December 16, 2013 by paz

[paz]

Did you have access to the service which you are required to pay for over the month you were billed?

Then you owe every satang you were billed, I know of no utility company here or in the home country that will accept less then you were billed for, I find it extremely hard to believe you by chance had in your pocket the exact change except the 15 satang in question, some coincidence.

You requested the service, you received the service and "surprise" you must pay in full for the service, if you are dissatisfied with having to pay the exact same charge you have been paying. (drop that service).

You are the one that is wrong in your situation, you must pay in full the complete price of the service you receive, that you make an issue out of 15 satang, says a lot about yourself.

Cheers

I will re-affirm here on the grounds of your delirious, judgeful, and sad posting above, that you're an incurable unhappy piece of opinioned western expat male, unable to grasp the very simple concepts of practicality in accounting, respect for the customer, and service-with-a-smile, but carrying around instead a serious inferiority complex and a lot of unsolved issues.

Edited December 16, 2013 by paz

[kikoman]

As my response was to the OP and again you find fault in one of my opinions. Get a life, do something constructive, If you disagree with the Western concept of having to pay in full for the service you received then take issue with what was posted, and save the personal attacks for a later post, as is your usual operational mode!

Why is the issue so foreign to you,as a westerner?

I remember a time in Tucson Az, the light company, sent me a dis-connect notice that I had not paid my light bill, as I had already received the cancelled check, from my bank that they in fact not only received my payment but cashed my check. I told the "customer service representative" that there was a mistake made at their company because I had already paid my light bill. He told me they did not make mistakes and if I did not want my lights disconnected, I must submit the full amount owed or my service would be disconnected.

At that point I gave him a photo copy of the check received from the bank and told him if they disconnect my lights, I would sue them as I had a new borne baby at home and needed the service. I had clearly documented to him I had already paid the light bill that an accounting mistake was made by their company and walked out!

Needless to say my light service was not disconnected, and so much for your Western dream of "respect for the customer, service-with-a-smile" BS wake up we live here in the real world.

Edited December 16, 2013 by kikoman

[stiggy]

You wrote a post about 15 satang ? cost more in electric to post it, in fact we are all out of pocket reading it.

[David48]

It's not always a one way street.

Took a taxi with the Thai gf.

The fare was Bt 42 from the TESCO back to the Apartment.

I had 40 Bt in my hand, gave that to her to give to the Taxi driver.

(She pays and decides if there is a tip or not)

She went to open her purse and the Taxi driver waved it away ... said Bt 40 was enough.

We live in strange times indeed ...

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[Hardened Spanker]

Is anyone else thinking that this guy must be the Cheapest Charlie in the world to be whingeing over 15 satang?

[paz]

Is anyone else thinking that this guy must be the Cheapest Charlie in the world to be whingeing over 15 satang?

Is anyone else thinking than a multibillion company make the wrong choice when employing a bitter female cashier that won't say "mai pen rai" for 15 satangs over 635 Bts, as any food stall vendor would have done over 20 Bts ?

Edited December 16, 2013 by paz

[kikoman]

Is anyone else thinking that this guy must be the Cheapest Charlie in the world to be whingeing over 15 satang?

I agree with your post that some one would complain about being required to make full payment (which amounts to 15 satang) for a service they used.

He has to be considered for the Cheapest Charlie of the year award!

There are so many issues that are much more important facing people in Thailand today!

Cheers

[mrtoad]

I've seen it all now, a complaint about paying 15 satang, which he actually did owe.

[mrtoad]

Don't be put off by the righteous satang counters here, reality is that she would not have lost anything, any cashier always has a little coins buffer because people leave small coins behind all the time. In the US you see it as "give a penny take a penny", In thailand you don't but is there anyway.

Nobody in Thailand makes a fuss for 15 satangs, she wanted to give you a bad time and surely had resentment toward foreigners.

Are you serious? Now the race card.

This is too funny.

[Briggsy]

"sticky s**t" is a literal mistranslation of a vulgar Thai phrase. It is neither English nor Thai. [The 'khee' in 'khee neeow' means 'has the trait of being', it does not mean 'poo'.] I hope you appreciate being enlightened. If you feel that way about this woman, you could try "stingy bi**h" which would be more widely understood.

If you were angry about overpaying 85 satang, you could have asked for 75 satang in coins and not left until you got it.

[jackr]

I'm with the op to a degree. Although the bill needs to be paid whatever the amount, the lady should have at least given 75 satang change. I pulled the bank up on this while paying the internet for many years, which is such & such and 23 satang. They'd always ask for the extra baht and never give change. Over time through thousands of customers, the bank is making for nothing. That one can pay exact amounts through service providers is irrelevant as is the tiny amount we're talking about. Bottom line, somebody is getting something for nothing, and when it comes to the banks, they can swivel for even one satang!