Suthep not happy with press treatment, resolves to do better

[oldsailor35]

"Yesterday, the protesters separately surrounded two TV reporters working from their mobile trucks and criticised them of reporting the wrong number of the protesters. The two denied that they had given any number."

Great. Noting mention about beating the women up.

Go google about the 2 women reporters yesterday "Penphan Leamluang" and "Varunee Suesatsakulchai"

A historic occasion for Thailand, the largest mass demonstration ever conducted in Thai history and virtually devoid of violence and damage to property and all you can focus on is a minor disturbance between some hotheads and a couple of journalists. An occurrence that was quickly resolved by organisers and strategies put in place so it wouldn't be repeated.

Compare this to the redshirt riots, where the reds were encouraged by their leaders to commit mass violence that resulted in the deaths of 90 people, injuries to thousands, biblical scale destruction of public and private property and disagreements with journalist that resulted in building being set alight and exits blocked by reds with journalists trapped inside.

err! you forgot to mention the act of International Terrorism when an airport was over run effecting airlines and international travellers WORLD WIDE !

[metisdead]

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[toybits]

Mr. Suthep just revealed how vulnerable he is. He know the power of Mass Media and treating them bad like they did backfired on him and his campaign. Now he has to do a lot of fence mending and he needs to police his own ranks. Just one more thing to do to keep the spirits up. I just wonder how he feels right now after 34 Political parties defied him when when they turned up to register for the 2nd February 2014 election? Will he be sending funeral wreaths to those other political parties as well? Is the tide turning against Suthep?

[tingtongteesood]

"Yesterday, the protesters separately surrounded two TV reporters working from their mobile trucks and criticised them of reporting the wrong number of the protesters. The two denied that they had given any number."

Great. Noting mention about beating the women up.

Go google about the 2 women reporters yesterday "Penphan Leamluang" and "Varunee Suesatsakulchai"

A historic occasion for Thailand, the largest mass demonstration ever conducted in Thai history and virtually devoid of violence and damage to property and all you can focus on is a minor disturbance between some hotheads and a couple of journalists. An occurrence that was quickly resolved by organisers and strategies put in place so it wouldn't be repeated.

Compare this to the redshirt riots, where the reds were encouraged by their leaders to commit mass violence that resulted in the deaths of 90 people, injuries to thousands, biblical scale destruction of public and private property and disagreements with journalist that resulted in building being set alight and exits blocked by reds with journalists trapped inside.

"Compare this to the redshirt riots, where the reds were encouraged by their leaders to commit mass violence that resulted in the deaths of 90 people, injuries to thousands, biblical scale destruction of public and private property and disagreements with journalist that resulted in building being set alight and exits blocked by reds with journalists trapped inside."

This is so wrong it's laughable. Waza, you have set yourself a new low. You and cartalucci ought to get together, you're made for each other.

As usual your ignorance is breathtaking Fab4 red shirt. Why not try to understand the truth before you come here spouting your drivel ?

[tingtongteesood]

"Yesterday, the protesters separately surrounded two TV reporters working from their mobile trucks and criticised them of reporting the wrong number of the protesters. The two denied that they had given any number."

Great. Noting mention about beating the women up.

Go google about the 2 women reporters yesterday "Penphan Leamluang" and "Varunee Suesatsakulchai"

A historic occasion for Thailand, the largest mass demonstration ever conducted in Thai history and virtually devoid of violence and damage to property and all you can focus on is a minor disturbance between some hotheads and a couple of journalists. An occurrence that was quickly resolved by organisers and strategies put in place so it wouldn't be repeated.

Compare this to the redshirt riots, where the reds were encouraged by their leaders to commit mass violence that resulted in the deaths of 90 people, injuries to thousands, biblical scale destruction of public and private property and disagreements with journalist that resulted in building being set alight and exits blocked by reds with journalists trapped inside.

Lets have Suthep & Co on the street for another two months and you will see that things will get more violently if he does not archive his goal. We are just in Month Number 1. give it another 4-6 weeks.

bs rhetoric mr. red. the only way it will really turn violent is if the government unleashes its red private militiia as it did at Ramkhamhang a few weeks back and we all know it....

[tingtongteesood]

I wonder what he'd think of this if this was printed.

Thai people should be very careful about following Suthep Thaugsuban if they are genuinely concerned about corruption. His current involvement in the protests is not for the benefit of the people but for his own means. He believes that if he wins over the hearts of the Thai people by fighting their cause he can exonerate himself of any past wrongdoings as he has somehow managed to do before. He is one of the most corrupt politicians in Thailand and has been for decades.

Let's put aside the silliness of his demand for 'democracy' by means of overthrowing a democratically-elected government for a moment and consider the following facts about Mr. Suthep:

-When he was Agriculture Minister in 1995, he sold and gave away to his wealthy friends Land Reform plots in Phuket meant for needy local people. This scandal brought down the entire government he represented. He escaped prosecution because of his political connections, bribery, and...wait for it...paying protesters to march in the streets of Bangkok. The only democratically-elected Democrat in dozens of years, Chuan Leekpai, lost power because of Suthep's corruption.

-In 2009 when he was on the National Police Commission, he openly accepted large bribes for police postings and shot down the posting of more deserving officers who refused to pay him, including nominees from his own party's Prime Minister. The same year, he was investigated by the Election Commission for illegally owning equity in media companies with government contracts, in violation of the Constitution. He avoided prosecution by resigning from Parliament, but kept his post of Deputy Prime Minister.

-Later in 2011 when he was National Palm Oil Policy Committee Chairman, he helped orchestrate a phony shortage of the commodity to force up prices more than 50%. He and his family made a fortune from the increase in price, as they are major players in the palm oil industry and huge landowners. He also pocketed kickbacks from other major producers in the South.

-More recently he has been implicated in alleged irregularities over the unfinished police station construction project, of which he was overseeing in his occupation as Deputy Prime Minister. Corruption or mismanagement of these projects of which he was responsible has resulted in approximately 400 police station construction projects nationwide either unstarted or abandoned incomplete.

-In the not too distant future Suthep will also be brought to trial for 92 counts of murder for ordering police and military to use deadly force on Red Shirt protesters in 2010 (not to mention the thousands hurt). He was indicted by the Office of the Attorney General, which is a non-political independent branch of the Ministry of Justice.

-Additionally, Wikileaks diplomatic cables from the US embassy revealed that many members of his own party have long complained of his corrupt and unethical behavior such as auctioning off cabinet postings both within the Democratic Party and former coalition partners.

These are just the things that we actually know about - how many more shenanigans has he been involved in?! SUTHEP IS NOT THE MAN YOU WANT REPRESENTING YOUR INTERESTS. He embodies corruption in Thailand to an extent few people can match. Pick a different leader to rally behind!

THAKSIN MAY BE NO SAINT BUT he probably isn't half as bad as many would like you to believe either, infact Independant Watch Dogs indicate that CORRUPTION IN THAILAND FELL TO ITS LOWEST POINT IN DECADES UNDER HIS LEADERSHIP AND WAS EVEN LOWER THAN WHEN THE DEMOCRATS ASSUMED POWER AFTER THE COUP!!!

UTTER Crap from yet another new red troll. Go back under your bridge rd troll. NEXT !

[tingtongteesood]

The situation is different now of course, Yingluck, from the beginning has said she wouldn't use violence and she indeed made good on that promise. Much more restraint than Mark and Suthep that is plain for everyone to see.

Funny you accused me of being a red shirt, and a day later come up with blatant propaganda that is easily refuted.

One thing is for sure, your account of what happened in 2010 is wrong. The red protest in 2010 were largely without violence, until of course some people on the other side authorized the army and army snipers to use live ammunition to get rid of them.

You must have been sleeping in the month or so leading up to the 'crackdown' if you think it was violence free. Although admittedly a great deal of it in those weeks was red shirt cowards firing bombs at houses of people they didnt like in the dead of night and running away, but that still counts as violence to most of us. Using weapons to try to harm people and intimidate them because they don't agree with your crazy ideas....Being opinionated is ok but try not to show your immense ignorance when you do so...

[Spare]

"Yesterday, the protesters separately surrounded two TV reporters working from their mobile trucks and criticised them of reporting the wrong number of the protesters. The two denied that they had given any number."

Great. Noting mention about beating the women up.

Go google about the 2 women reporters yesterday "Penphan Leamluang" and "Varunee Suesatsakulchai"

A historic occasion for Thailand, the largest mass demonstration ever conducted in Thai history and virtually devoid of violence and damage to property and all you can focus on is a minor disturbance between some hotheads and a couple of journalists. An occurrence that was quickly resolved by organisers and strategies put in place so it wouldn't be repeated.

Compare this to the redshirt riots, where the reds were encouraged by their leaders to commit mass violence that resulted in the deaths of 90 people, injuries to thousands, biblical scale destruction of public and private property and disagreements with journalist that resulted in building being set alight and exits blocked by reds with journalists trapped inside.

Lets have Suthep & Co on the street for another two months and you will see that things will get more violently if he does not archive his goal. We are just in Month Number 1. give it another 4-6 weeks.

bs rhetoric mr. red. the only way it will really turn violent is if the government unleashes its red private militiia as it did at Ramkhamhang a few weeks back and we all know it....

Just a friendly reminder on statistics. In Ram, 4 Red died vs 1 yellow. Some shooters were caught await trial, and turn out to be 2 Ram Uni students.

[northernjohn]

A historic occasion for Thailand, the largest mass demonstration ever conducted in Thai history and virtually devoid of violence and damage to property and all you can focus on is a minor disturbance between some hotheads and a couple of journalists. An occurrence that was quickly resolved by organisers and strategies put in place so it wouldn't be repeated.

Compare this to the redshirt riots, where the reds were encouraged by their leaders to commit mass violence that resulted in the deaths of 90 people, injuries to thousands, biblical scale destruction of public and private property and disagreements with journalist that resulted in building being set alight and exits blocked by reds with journalists trapped inside.

"Compare this to the redshirt riots, where the reds were encouraged by their leaders to commit mass violence that resulted in the deaths of 90 people, injuries to thousands, biblical scale destruction of public and private property and disagreements with journalist that resulted in building being set alight and exits blocked by reds with journalists trapped inside."

This is so wrong it's laughable. Waza, you have set yourself a new low. You and cartalucci ought to get together, you're made for each other.

Well Fabby, glad you get a good laugh out of others misery. Perhap if you read more than red history you would be better informed and more credible. Till then keep up with the red spin and the ambiguous comments, baiting and the personal flames.

One thing is for sure, your account of what happened in 2010 is wrong. The red protest in 2010 were largely without violence, until of course some people on the other side authorized the army and army snipers to use live ammunition to get rid of them.

The situation is different now of course, Yingluck, from the beginning has said she wouldn't use violence and she indeed made good on that promise. Much more restraint than Mark and Suthep that is plain for everyone to see.

Funny you accused me of being a red shirt, and a day later come up with blatant propaganda that is easily refuted.

Suppose you easily refute it then. Coming up with red shirt dribble is not proof.

Who controlled the police and did not allow them to do their Job? Forcing the legal government to bring in the army?

Who fired the first shot?

Who invaded hospitals?

Who fired rockets on civilian transportation centers?

Who tried to burn Bangkok down?

Who left downtown Bangkok looking like a pig sty and did not do one thing to help clean it up?

Who put thousands out of work?

Do you know any thing about what happened in 2010?

If so please post accordingly.

[northernjohn]

A historic occasion for Thailand, the largest mass demonstration ever conducted in Thai history and virtually devoid of violence and damage to property and all you can focus on is a minor disturbance between some hotheads and a couple of journalists. An occurrence that was quickly resolved by organisers and strategies put in place so it wouldn't be repeated.

Compare this to the redshirt riots, where the reds were encouraged by their leaders to commit mass violence that resulted in the deaths of 90 people, injuries to thousands, biblical scale destruction of public and private property and disagreements with journalist that resulted in building being set alight and exits blocked by reds with journalists trapped inside.

Lets have Suthep & Co on the street for another two months and you will see that things will get more violently if he does not archive his goal. We are just in Month Number 1. give it another 4-6 weeks.

bs rhetoric mr. red. the only way it will really turn violent is if the government unleashes its red private militiia as it did at Ramkhamhang a few weeks back and we all know it....

Just a friendly reminder on statistics. In Ram, 4 Red died vs 1 yellow. Some shooters were caught await trial, and turn out to be 2 Ram Uni students.

What were the 4 reds doing at the university? Trying to promote peace the way they did in 2010 only to find out that the university students were well aware of the red violence and were prepared for them.

[khwaam sook]

Let me get this straight, the "reforms" that are required by the rabble are these, the country changes its name to
The Royal Democratic Apartheid State of Thailand, and its constitution to stipulate that those who live in Isaan or in the North cant vote ? Yep sounds eminently feasible to me.

[khwaam sook]

 

Let me get this straight, the "reforms" that are required by the rabble are these, the country changes its name to

The Royal Democratic Apartheid State of Thailand, and its constitution to stipulate that those who live in Isaan or in the North cant vote ? Yep sounds eminently feasible to me.

 

hey you are in luck, His Excellency F. W. de Klerk http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F_W_de_Klerk is still alive so perhaps he can be called in as a consultant to set up the Aparthied State

you dont have to worry about that pesky Mandela fellow getting in the way because they have buried him already

Edited December 24, 2013 by khwaam sook

[Spare]

I can't believe that Suthep is not happy! He always seems like a happy fella to me:

Is he faking it? I mean the smile? Or is he on his way to see his dentist?

[harada]

I can't believe that Suthep is not happy! He always seems like a happy fella to me:

Is he faking it? I mean the smile? Or is he on his way to see his dentist?

Either that or the nearest hong nam.

[fab4]

"Compare this to the redshirt riots, where the reds were encouraged by their leaders to commit mass violence that resulted in the deaths of 90 people, injuries to thousands, biblical scale destruction of public and private property and disagreements with journalist that resulted in building being set alight and exits blocked by reds with journalists trapped inside."

This is so wrong it's laughable. Waza, you have set yourself a new low. You and cartalucci ought to get together, you're made for each other.

Well Fabby, glad you get a good laugh out of others misery. Perhap if you read more than red history you would be better informed and more credible. Till then keep up with the red spin and the ambiguous comments, baiting and the personal flames.

After you have read the history of the red, I hope you would NOT say they deserves the 90 deaths. That will be too inhuman.

If you were better informed you would know that the 90 dead weren't all reds and if you were more literate you would see I didn't write that. What I did suggest was that if a convicted criminal didn't pay the reds to protest by then no one would have died. But if you are suggesting that their death were worth the protest to restore Thaksins seized money then that would be as inhuman as Thaksins actions to pay for that protest and the redshirt leaders calls for violence and arson on stage.

No, you wrote that

the UDD supporters were encouraged to commit mass violence (as opposed to it being inflicted on them as the 80 plus deaths and thousands of injuries amongst those supporters would attest)

of biblical scale destruction (I'm not sure I'd call the burning of Central World and the Zen building plus a few other buildings as being on a biblical scale other than a link to Mammon) and

disagreeing with a journalist and demonstrating that disagreement setting a building alight and blocking the exits with journalists trapped inside (??????????)

which as I said put's you more in line with the hyperbolic school of blog writing a la cartalucci.

Now that is not "red spin", an ambiguous comment, baiting or a personal flame no matter how you dress it up, waza, it's an opinion.

[Amavel]

Maybe Suthep can appoint a "People's Council" of journalists that can be guarded by Volunteer "People's Council" Police. That way the People can be counted by the People, while being guarded by the people from being harmed by the people.

[fasteddie]

"Yesterday, the protesters separately surrounded two TV reporters working from their mobile trucks and criticised them of reporting the wrong number of the protesters. The two denied that they had given any number."

Great. Noting mention about beating the women up.

Go google about the 2 women reporters yesterday "Penphan Leamluang" and "Varunee Suesatsakulchai"

A historic occasion for Thailand, the largest mass demonstration ever conducted in Thai history and virtually devoid of violence and damage to property and all you can focus on is a minor disturbance between some hotheads and a couple of journalists. An occurrence that was quickly resolved by organisers and strategies put in place so it wouldn't be repeated.

Compare this to the redshirt riots, where the reds were encouraged by their leaders to commit mass violence that resulted in the deaths of 90 people, injuries to thousands, biblical scale destruction of public and private property and disagreements with journalist that resulted in building being set alight and exits blocked by reds with journalists trapped inside.

Lets have Suthep & Co on the street for another two months and you will see that things will get more violently if he does not archive his goal. We are just in Month Number 1. give it another 4-6 weeks.

bs rhetoric mr. red. the only way it will really turn violent is if the government unleashes its red private militiia as it did at Ramkhamhang a few weeks back and we all know it....

"and we all know it" !!!

may I commend you on your command of the English language, Kuhn Suthep.

[fasteddie]

I wonder what he'd think of this if this was printed.

Thai people should be very careful about following Suthep Thaugsuban if they are genuinely concerned about corruption. His current involvement in the protests is not for the benefit of the people but for his own means. He believes that if he wins over the hearts of the Thai people by fighting their cause he can exonerate himself of any past wrongdoings as he has somehow managed to do before. He is one of the most corrupt politicians in Thailand and has been for decades.

Let's put aside the silliness of his demand for 'democracy' by means of overthrowing a democratically-elected government for a moment and consider the following facts about Mr. Suthep:

-When he was Agriculture Minister in 1995, he sold and gave away to his wealthy friends Land Reform plots in Phuket meant for needy local people. This scandal brought down the entire government he represented. He escaped prosecution because of his political connections, bribery, and...wait for it...paying protesters to march in the streets of Bangkok. The only democratically-elected Democrat in dozens of years, Chuan Leekpai, lost power because of Suthep's corruption.

-In 2009 when he was on the National Police Commission, he openly accepted large bribes for police postings and shot down the posting of more deserving officers who refused to pay him, including nominees from his own party's Prime Minister. The same year, he was investigated by the Election Commission for illegally owning equity in media companies with government contracts, in violation of the Constitution. He avoided prosecution by resigning from Parliament, but kept his post of Deputy Prime Minister.

-Later in 2011 when he was National Palm Oil Policy Committee Chairman, he helped orchestrate a phony shortage of the commodity to force up prices more than 50%. He and his family made a fortune from the increase in price, as they are major players in the palm oil industry and huge landowners. He also pocketed kickbacks from other major producers in the South.

-More recently he has been implicated in alleged irregularities over the unfinished police station construction project, of which he was overseeing in his occupation as Deputy Prime Minister. Corruption or mismanagement of these projects of which he was responsible has resulted in approximately 400 police station construction projects nationwide either unstarted or abandoned incomplete.

-In the not too distant future Suthep will also be brought to trial for 92 counts of murder for ordering police and military to use deadly force on Red Shirt protesters in 2010 (not to mention the thousands hurt). He was indicted by the Office of the Attorney General, which is a non-political independent branch of the Ministry of Justice.

-Additionally, Wikileaks diplomatic cables from the US embassy revealed that many members of his own party have long complained of his corrupt and unethical behavior such as auctioning off cabinet postings both within the Democratic Party and former coalition partners.

These are just the things that we actually know about - how many more shenanigans has he been involved in?! SUTHEP IS NOT THE MAN YOU WANT REPRESENTING YOUR INTERESTS. He embodies corruption in Thailand to an extent few people can match. Pick a different leader to rally behind!

THAKSIN MAY BE NO SAINT BUT he probably isn't half as bad as many would like you to believe either, infact Independant Watch Dogs indicate that CORRUPTION IN THAILAND FELL TO ITS LOWEST POINT IN DECADES UNDER HIS LEADERSHIP AND WAS EVEN LOWER THAN WHEN THE DEMOCRATS ASSUMED POWER AFTER THE COUP!!!

UTTER Crap from yet another new red troll. Go back under your bridge rd troll. NEXT !

Just love your studied balanced arguments, straight out of chairman Suthep's "little yellow book".

[fasteddie]

The situation is different now of course, Yingluck, from the beginning has said she wouldn't use violence and she indeed made good on that promise. Much more restraint than Mark and Suthep that is plain for everyone to see.

Funny you accused me of being a red shirt, and a day later come up with blatant propaganda that is easily refuted.

One thing is for sure, your account of what happened in 2010 is wrong. The red protest in 2010 were largely without violence, until of course some people on the other side authorized the army and army snipers to use live ammunition to get rid of them.

You must have been sleeping in the month or so leading up to the 'crackdown' if you think it was violence free. Although admittedly a great deal of it in those weeks was red shirt cowards firing bombs at houses of people they didnt like in the dead of night and running away, but that still counts as violence to most of us. Using weapons to try to harm people and intimidate them because they don't agree with your crazy ideas....Being opinionated is ok but try not to show your immense ignorance when you do so...

Ah! I see now, you're playing the "devil's advocate"

[englishoak]

I can't believe that Suthep is not happy! He always seems like a happy fella to me:

Id walk a million miles for one of those smiles ma ma ma ma maaamyyyyyy....

[sbk]

off topic posts, lets do try to keep to the topic at hand, as difficult as that may be for some. cheers