webfact Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 NSC: Emergency decree will be necessary on Jan 13BANGKOK, 2 January 2014 (NNT) – The National Security Council of Thailand (NSC) has hinted that an emergency decree will be necessary on January 13th, when the planned shutdown of Bangkok by anti-government protesters is to kick off.According to NSC Secretary-General Lt Gen Paradorn Pattanatabut, the imposition of an emergency decree in Bangkok would be necessary in light of the announcement of the People's Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC) that they would shut down the entire capital.He revealed further that Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra had met with national security agencies to discuss the issue and asked them to be prepared for the upcoming protests. Among the agencies Miss Yingluck had met, the army was the only one that had yet to comply with the government’s request that it get involved, saying it was still assessing the situation.The Secretary-General however expressed his confidence that the army would do what needed to be done to maintain law and order under the democratic system.The protesters are planning to paralyze the capital on January 13th, starting at nine in the morning. The shutdown period is expected to last for at least 5 days.-- NNT 2014-01-02 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tatsujin Posted January 2, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2014 Ha ha, the Defence Minister can't get the Army to do what she wants. Classic. The writing is on the wall. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Ha ha, the Defence Minister can't get the Army to do what she wants. Classic. The writing is on the wall. Well the army is not kicking her out, that is already an achievement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dru2 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Ha ha, the Defence Minister can't get the Army to do what she wants. Classic. The writing is on the wall. Well the army is not kicking her out, that is already an achievement. Touch wood, both sides have achieved something. No military intervention, and it's very difficult to see how Thaksin can ever come back in person, even if he calls the shots from Dubai. We should all be thankful for both these things. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod711 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 The Secretary-General however expressed his confidence that the army would do what needed to be done to maintain law and order under the democratic system. If it will result in Yingluck being charged with murder, i'm all for the army being involved. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Basil B Posted January 2, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) Could see the Army stepping in to ensure there is no violence by confining the police to their stations. Edited January 2, 2014 by Basil B 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 The Secretary-General however expressed his confidence that the army would do what needed to be done to maintain law and order under the democratic system. If it will result in Yingluck being charged with murder, i'm all for the army being involved. If they can stitch Abhisit up then she is also guilty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 The Secretary-General however expressed his confidence that the army would do what needed to be done to maintain law and order under the democratic system. If it will result in Yingluck being charged with murder, i'm all for the army being involved. What murder? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taony Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 " Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra had met with national security agencies to discuss the issue and asked them to be prepared for the upcoming protests" did she say "please"? Is she a leader? Isn't she supposed to be briefed on the plans, make suggestions/decisions together, etc? A lot of these articles are written this way, so maybe its the style, but it sounds ridiculous to me whenever I read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby nz Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 This will then be a good reason to postpone the election : _ A poll can be delayed by 30 days via royal decree if there is civil unrest, floods, fire or other eventualities (according to Article 78 of the 2007 Constitution's organic law on elections);Obviously an emergency decree will only be needed if there is civil unrest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smutcakes Posted January 2, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2014 This will then be a good reason to postpone the election : _ A poll can be delayed by 30 days via royal decree if there is civil unrest, floods, fire or other eventualities (according to Article 78 of the 2007 Constitution's organic law on elections); Obviously an emergency decree will only be needed if there is civil unrest. What good is delaying it by 30 days going to do? Its quite clear that the Government have no intention of yielding to the demands of Suthep, and it is clear that Suthep is not going to accept anything but his vision. Originally they wanted her to call an election which she did, and then the goal posts just kept be shifted. Why would any party anywhere on earth simply hand over power to someone else who is neither part of a political party, or in anyway elected to represent the people in the country? 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kurtgruen Posted January 2, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2014 Ha ha, the Defence Minister can't get the Army to do what she wants. Classic. The writing is on the wall. Well the army is not kicking her out, that is already an achievement. YET! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siampolee Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 To be honest with the current revelations concerning the activities of the police in Black, the police plea to their superiors to arrest the police killers as the low level police are actually unable, unwilling and refusing to do their duty plainly shows us and the world in general that what passed for ''Law and Order'' here in Thailand is now all but extinct. The military are being decidedly careful in their comments and to date their actions, Oh dear Yingluck, your brother the puppet master, has indeed handed you the classic poisoned chalice.What are you and the rest of your puppet troupe going to do now as y what little credibility that you may have had has long since gone. First The Thaksin clan must withdraw completely from the political front here in Thailand. Secondly it might be a wise move for the family to establish a new home in Dubai, Montenegro Zimbabwe, etc Thirdly .Seppuku..The ultimate solution to all of your families and Thailand's troubles. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted January 2, 2014 Author Share Posted January 2, 2014 RT @ChadapornLin: Caretaker govt may decide to invoke Emergency Decree for upcoming protest but that would mean soldiers will take charge instead of police Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siampolee Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 RT @ChadapornLin: Caretaker govt may decide to invoke Emergency Decree for upcoming protest but that would mean soldiers will take charge instead of police Somehow i don't think that the army are going to fall for that role. Double edged sword for them (the army) and of course the Thaksin clan and their ilk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted January 2, 2014 Author Share Posted January 2, 2014 Red Shirt leaders call mass rally Jan 13 to counter anti-govt Bangkok shutdown; urge army not to stage coup /MCOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted January 2, 2014 Author Share Posted January 2, 2014 State of emergency may be invoked in capitalBANGKOK: -- The National Security Council (NSC) chief says the state of emergency may be invoked in the capital to cope with threat to shut down Bangkok by the People’s Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC) on January 13.NSC secretary-general Lt-Gen Paradorn Patthanathabutr hinted of the possibility of an emergency decree to invoke the state of emergency in case the current laws were inadequate to cope with the intensification of the protests.He said the meeting today with the Center for the Administration of Peace and Order (CAPO) chaired by caretaker Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra would further assess the protest situation as well as progress in the government-proposed reform council.Lt-Gen Paradorn said that at a meeting yesterday with CAPO, threat by PDRC to shut down Bangkok was raised for discussion with suggestion that the state of emergency might be invoked to cope with the massive protests.The meeting also agreed to ask the Armed Forces to help the police in keeping peace and order and in handling the situation should the protests intensify and become a threat to security.However, he said that the national police chief was coordinating with the military on the help but has not yet had a conclusion on the matter from the Armed Forces.Lt-Gen Paradorn said at present protesters from the provinces are being mobilized to Bangkok and the NSC was monitoring the mobilization of people closely as well as the movement on January 5 as declared by the PDRC that it would hold protest demonstrations on major streets in the capital.If the demonstrations on that day intensify, then it was necessary to heighten security and invoke state of emergency to deal with the shutdown threat on January 13.Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/state-emergency-may-invoked-capital/ -- Thai PBS 2014-01-02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post soi41 Posted January 2, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2014 What a f***** up country!! 3 years ago, the police refused to do their job, so the army had to step in! Now, the police are all too eager to do their job, whilst the army appearently refuses to take orders fron their Commander in Chief! (Like her or not, but she is actually their boss!) So my fellow expats, take a walk in the sunshine and enjoy all the good things Thailand still has to offer, and leave the soap-opera called Thai politics to the Thais!! (Who think they know everything best anyway) 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Nothing seems to be going the Shinawatra Party's way, poor old Thaskin must be wondering what has happened , the Army is right now assessing the situation, this could mean waiting for a stronger commitment , the situation now is serious and it is time that Democrat leaders Abhisit and Co start acting like statesmen and get control of the situation , otherwise , senseless violence will gather momentum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gulfsailor Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 From other news; "Red Shirt leaders call mass rally Jan 13 to counter anti-govt Bangkok shutdown; urge army not to stage coup /MCOT" So we will have an emergency decree, with police and army out in full force, together with likely the most amount of PDRC and also Red protestors ever seen together in Bangkok. It's going to be messy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kurtgruen Posted January 2, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2014 Well, for selfish reasons, I would very much enjoy another (peaceful) coup, like the last one When the military was in power, there were hardly any police roadblocks and it was a pleasure to ride my bike everywhere, without paying the "road tax". As an added bonus, they actually did some road construction up here, which of course turned to S*&t, as soon as Thaksin's puppet got in and all the road construction money, was used to line peoples fat pockets again. I would much rather see a benevolent dictatorship, than a useless, so-called democracy anyways. Personally, I would like to see the military in power, with the King, as the head of State. That way, we would get rid of hundreds of politicians and their aids and cronies, who have their hands in everybody's pockets. (I am talking about both sides, not just Thaksin) 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pedro01 Posted January 2, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) So lets see.... This government, the one that vilified the action of the army in 2010, the one that wanted members of the army charged with criminal offenses for 2010, the one that has members of the last govt on murder charges for getting the army to step in... This government really expects the army to step in now? What, so if it all goes wrong, they can blame the army? Priceless. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Edited January 2, 2014 by pedro01 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 One must remember Thailand has been a constitutional monarchy under a parliamentary democracy system since 1932 and Yingluck is not head of state, and although the armed forces takes day to day operational instructions from the government I am sure they have allegiances to one person and that is not the PM. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguy30 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 A less arrogant person would simply resign and go shopping. Hint: Do what you are good at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguy30 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Perfect opportunity for the military to bring in soldiers and tanks and then make a coup d'état. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldthaihand99 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 No military intervention, and it's very difficult to see how Thaksin can ever come back in person, even if he calls the shots from Dubai. Poor guy. The Thai food & poontang in Dubai must really suck. Though i expect the odds of being bumped off are less. If i were him i'd prefer it there & be as happy as a pig in mud. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfill Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Perfect opportunity for the military to bring in soldiers and tanks and then make a coup d'état. Yup, you need a nice coup of tea after a hard days graft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyLew Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 i wish Khun Suthep good luck and I hope he finds what he is looking for. Just the announcement of a protest / shut down had the officials in a state of panic. Going to be a lot of threats back forth for the next 11 days. Guess the police will be getting their "men in black" uniforms ready 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PJcm Posted January 2, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2014 Well, for selfish reasons, I would very much enjoy another (peaceful) coup, like the last one When the military was in power, there were hardly any police roadblocks and it was a pleasure to ride my bike everywhere, without paying the "road tax". As an added bonus, they actually did some road construction up here, which of course turned to S*&t, as soon as Thaksin's puppet got in and all the road construction money, was used to line peoples fat pockets again. I would much rather see a benevolent dictatorship, than a useless, so-called democracy anyways. Personally, I would like to see the military in power, with the King, as the head of State. That way, we would get rid of hundreds of politicians and their aids and cronies, who have their hands in everybody's pockets. (I am talking about both sides, not just Thaksin) I would like to remind everyone here that until Thaksin came to power n'er a penny or a baht was spent in Chiang Mai, the North and the Northeast were wastelands and no political party paid attention to the plight of the farmers. No electricity in my village in Sansai until 1986,no telephones until 1994 and no water until 2004. Ask yourselves why? and then try to understand that the only person, the only person who ever gave them anything was Thaksin, how sad of you not to remember or if you are ignorant about the situation or didn't realize that it was that bad just close your mouth and let the locales get on with their ballet. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren84310 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I'm sure when Thaksin asked his little sister to take up the reins of government, he told her everything will be just fine, I will guide you through. You will do just fine little princess. Whereas really he knew things could get very sticky and potentially destroy her life..... What a selfish bigot you are Mr. Thaksin Shinawatra. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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