pookiki Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 As much as I disagree with what Suthep is saying and doing [along with his refusal to appear in court to acknowledge his indictment for murder], I see no useful purpose in pursuing an aggressive move to arrest him. It will only inflame an already volatile situation. Let him show whether he can keep the demonstrations relatively non-violent or not. If he can't, then he will only be facing more charges than have been leveled already. Additionally, it will serve to show who his true allies are and to what extent they are willing to go to support his agenda. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerry1011 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Suthep gets more and more disgusting. Death penalty is appropriate for someone who commits rebellion against a whole democratic system in such a dirty way. Sent from my HTC One using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtgruen Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Arrest Suthep? They don't even know, how to cut the Signals to ASTV and Bluesky.tv I don't think, they have to Balls, to try to arrest him. Even if they did, the military would be all over them. The way I see it, they will have a few more days, (or maybe even weeks, but I know this can't go on for two long anymore) and then the military will step in and remove the Thaksin clan and his buddies, from power. Sadly, they will probably give his sister enough time, to fill up a plane with gold, money and possessions, like they did with her brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Mountain Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I like to see if Suthep has the balls to try it himself. I wonder what the results will be of a urine-test of this guy ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just1Voice Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Anyone even attempting to take Yingluck "hostage" would have to have a death wish. Aside from the "red" police and military, you think she doesn't have the best trained private security guards that money can buy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nickymaster Posted January 16, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 16, 2014 (edited) People might respect "the law" a little more when those currently in power cleaned up their own house first. Nothing to be cleaned up, that cannot be addressed on Parliament, and subsequently submitted to the electorate for their judgment....To follow the Coup-mongers in their anti-Govt. tirades, humouring them along and affording them validity is effectively being complicitous with anti-Democratic and anti-electoral principles of Democracy..Farangs would never do this in their own country...Especially attacking the Govt. for acting on the mandate the voters gave them...To characterize that as somehow being dictatorial or hasty is Opposition agenda only...Neither of these have occurred...Certainly not compared to normative British, Canadian or Australian Parliamentary practices...People should be pleased Parliament is not gridlocked as in the USA...That said, it is about time to deal with this coup-monger leadership...Battling them on the street is what they want, and is playing their game...I don't believe there are not political forces powerful enough to put their finger between Suthep's eyes and tell him this party is over. I know I have said it before. The opposition has asked Yingluck 120 questions since she took office and she has answered 2. How can you have any confidence in parliament? The parliamentary system is clearly not working in Thailand at the moment. From your post it almost seems as if you imply to say: They are the majority so they can do what they want and they don't need to debate with the opposition.. Edited January 16, 2014 by Nickymaster 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtgruen Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 CAPO reveals court order to arrest ‘Suthep’ BANGKOK, 16 January 2014 (NNT) — The Center for the Administration of Peace and Order (CAPO) has revealed an arrest warrant for the People’s Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC) leader Suthep Thaugsuban under the charge of treason. CAPO has announced an official court order to arrest PDRC leader Suthep Thaugsuban under the charge of treason after the protest leader publicly threatened to capture and restrain the premier and her Cabinet members. Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Foreign Affairs Surapong Tovichakchaikul is working in cooperation with CAPO to arrest Mr. Suthep after the PDRC core-leader allegedly threatened the well-being of the Prime Minister and her Cabinet members. National Police Chief Pol. Gen. Adul Saengsingkaew, after a CAPO meeting, has stressed the importance of 3 tasks: alleviating violence, expediting the ruling of crimes committed during the protests, and preparing a sufficient amount of police to protect governmental establishment that are to be besieged by protesters. On other note, reports from the Immigration Bureau have shown a 22.18% drop in tourist arrivals at Suvarnabhumi Airport due to the political unrest. -- NNT 2014-01-16 Funny, how they managed to slide the tourist arrival rates in there, with a court order announcement. Strange thing is, we tried to book four rooms, in Pattaya, for two nights, in mid February and we keep being told, everything is full for that time. The islands, seem to be quite busy, too. Anyways, if Elections did go ahead, this will probably go on, for a long time. I don't think, things will get any better, until Thaksin is out of the picture, in Thai politics. Maybe his loyal MP's, might want to think about this. Do they really want to see their Country run into the ground, just for money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DLock Posted January 16, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 16, 2014 Do it. But Suthep is somewhat in control of these peaceful protests. Arrest him and see what happens when they have no leader. Won't be much, they are getting very thin on the ground out there. But hey, enjoy you ideas of mass protest and don't look at the pics from twitter yesterday and today. Page 3 of newpaper should have "Spot the Protester" comp. at some of these locations. The protesters were almost out numbered by the street vendors and tourists yesterday. Mass uprising my butt. If you have a "...mass uprising your butt"...I'd go a see a Doctor if I was you. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMarlow Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 From his looks and posture K. Surapong would perfectly blend in with the north korean leadership type of guys. Just give him a uniform and change the backdrop, there you have it. You know your TV name is an anagram of "dim, no?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpoint Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Anyone even attempting to take Yingluck "hostage" would have to have a death wish. Aside from the "red" police and military, you think she doesn't have the best trained private security guards that money can buy? That would depend on who it was. Thaksin has held her hostage since the day she was born. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post zaphodbeeblebrox Posted January 16, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 16, 2014 CAPO reveals court order to arrest ‘Suthep’ BANGKOK, 16 January 2014 (NNT) — The Center for the Administration of Peace and Order (CAPO) has revealed an arrest warrant for the People’s Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC) leader Suthep Thaugsuban under the charge of treason. CAPO has announced an official court order to arrest PDRC leader Suthep Thaugsuban under the charge of treason after the protest leader publicly threatened to capture and restrain the premier and her Cabinet members. -- NNT 2014-01-16 I don't know if it's a poor translation, but Thailand has no specific penal code violation known as "treason". It does have a section of the penal code entitled "Offences against the External Security of the Kingdom" which sets forth penalties ranging from 10 years imprisonment to death for the usual things: spying, aiding an enemy at war with the nation, or taking up arms against the country. These are the usual offences which would constitute "treason" and they really wouldn't apply to Suthep. It might be mistranslation, or it could be incompetence on the part of the prosecutors. I think they meant to charge him with "insurrection". That would be covered by "Offences against the Internal Security of the Kingdom". He could be reasonably charged with any of the following, subject to his constitutional right to protest. Section 113 Whoever, commits an act of violence or threatens to commit an act of violence in order to: 1. Overthrow or change the Constitution; 2. Overthrow the legislative power, the executive power or the judicial power of the Constitution, or nullify such power; or 3. Separate the Kingdom or seize the power of administration in any part of the Kingdom, is said to commit insurrection, and shall be punished with death or imprisonment for life. Section 114 Whoever, collecting the forces or arms, or otherwise making the preparations or conspires to commit the insurrection, or committing any offence as the part of the plot committing the insurrection, or instigating the private persons to commit the insurrection, or Knowing that there are the persons to commit the insurrection and making any act to assist in keeping such secret intention to commit such insurrection, shall be punished by imprisonment as from three to fifteen years. Section 115 Whoever, instigates any member of the armed forces or the police forces to desert or not to perform his duties, or to commit mutiny, shall be punished with imprisonment not exceeding five years. If such offence is committed for the purpose of undermining the discipline and efficiency of the said armed forces or police forces, the offender shall be punished with imprisonment not exceeding ten years. Section 116 Whoever makes an appearance to the public by words, writings or any other means which is not an act within the purpose of the Constitution or for expressing an honest opinion or criticism in order: 1. To bring about a change in the Laws of the Country or the Government by the use of force or violence; 2. To raise unrest and disaffection amongst the people in a manner likely to cause disturbance in the country; or 3. To cause the people to transgress the laws of the Country, shall be punished with imprisonment not exceeding seven years. Section 117 Whoever, instigates or causes a strike, lockout, or concerted cessation of trade or business with any person for the purpose of bringing about any change in the Laws of the Country, coercing the Government or intimidating the public, shall be punished with imprisonment not exceeding seven years or fine not exceeding fourteen thousand Baht, or both. - Whoever, with the knowledge of the above purpose, takes part or assists in the said strike, lock-out, or concerted cessation of trade or business with any person shall be punished with imprisonment not exceeding three years or fine not exceeding six thousand Baht, or both. - Whoever, with the knowledge of the above purpose, commits any act of violence, threatens to commit any act of violence or intimidates by any means whatever so as to compel any person to take part or assist in any strike, lock-out, or concerted cessation of trade or business with any person, shall be punished with imprisonment not exceeding five years or fine not exceeding ten thousand Baht, or both. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 As much as I disagree with what Suthep is saying and doing [along with his refusal to appear in court to acknowledge his indictment for murder], I see no useful purpose in pursuing an aggressive move to arrest him. It will only inflame an already volatile situation. Let him show whether he can keep the demonstrations relatively non-violent or not. If he can't, then he will only be facing more charges than have been leveled already. Additionally, it will serve to show who his true allies are and to what extent they are willing to go to support his agenda. No usefull purpose in arresting him? What don't you understand about treason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ajaan Posted January 16, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 16, 2014 From his looks and posture K. Surapong would perfectly blend in with the north korean leadership type of guys. Just give him a uniform and change the backdrop, there you have it. Do you say the same about the leaders and other elected and appointed officials of government in your country when they try to maintain law and order? What country are you from? How would YOUR government respond to bands of lawless hooligans blocking the main roads and threatening to commit acts of terrorism at air traffic control sites? And would you support the lawmakers/police in your country in such a situation, or cheer on the thugs and lawless vandals? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I am debating which music theme is more appropriate to post.. "Benny Hill", "Three Stooges" or "Laurel and Hardy".. Tough choice.. PS: Decided to go with Entry of the Gladiators. Perfect match for this circus.. An excellent choice with Benny Hill in close second place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fstarbkk Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 From his looks and posture K. Surapong would perfectly blend in with the north korean leadership type of guys. Just give him a uniform and change the backdrop, there you have it. Not sure about the uniform, but the guy seriously needs a charisma transplant. He makes his opponents look appealing just by showing up. And it's only downhill, once he starts talking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomacht8 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 That is thai politics style. For many of us, who were lucky enough, to grow up in a "better functioning democracy”,this harsh tones from both sides are unusual.The whole range of the Criminal Code is maxed out here. “bounty” “head money” “behead” “death penalty” “kidnapping” “hijacking, war rooms, bomb attack, etc” No wonder when criminals and corrupt people lead the word in the country. I hope the country can solve its problems peacefully, but i fear so simple they will not get rid of this unethical people/politicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theslime Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 CAPO reveals court order to arrest ‘Suthep’ BANGKOK, 16 January 2014 (NNT) — The Center for the Administration of Peace and Order (CAPO) has revealed an arrest warrant for the People’s Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC) leader Suthep Thaugsuban under the charge of treason. CAPO has announced an official court order to arrest PDRC leader Suthep Thaugsuban under the charge of treason after the protest leader publicly threatened to capture and restrain the premier and her Cabinet members. -- NNT 2014-01-16 I don't know if it's a poor translation, but Thailand has no specific penal code violation known as "treason". It does have a section of the penal code entitled "Offences against the External Security of the Kingdom" which sets forth penalties ranging from 10 years imprisonment to death for the usual things: spying, aiding an enemy at war with the nation, or taking up arms against the country. These are the usual offences which would constitute "treason" and they really wouldn't apply to Suthep. It might be mistranslation, or it could be incompetence on the part of the prosecutors. I think they meant to charge him with "insurrection". That would be covered by "Offences against the Internal Security of the Kingdom". He could be reasonably charged with any of the following, subject to his constitutional right to protest. Section 113 Whoever, commits an act of violence or threatens to commit an act of violence in order to: 1. Overthrow or change the Constitution; 2. Overthrow the legislative power, the executive power or the judicial power of the Constitution, or nullify such power; or 3. Separate the Kingdom or seize the power of administration in any part of the Kingdom, is said to commit insurrection, and shall be punished with death or imprisonment for life. Section 114 Whoever, collecting the forces or arms, or otherwise making the preparations or conspires to commit the insurrection, or committing any offence as the part of the plot committing the insurrection, or instigating the private persons to commit the insurrection, or Knowing that there are the persons to commit the insurrection and making any act to assist in keeping such secret intention to commit such insurrection, shall be punished by imprisonment as from three to fifteen years. Section 115 Whoever, instigates any member of the armed forces or the police forces to desert or not to perform his duties, or to commit mutiny, shall be punished with imprisonment not exceeding five years. If such offence is committed for the purpose of undermining the discipline and efficiency of the said armed forces or police forces, the offender shall be punished with imprisonment not exceeding ten years. Section 116 Whoever makes an appearance to the public by words, writings or any other means which is not an act within the purpose of the Constitution or for expressing an honest opinion or criticism in order: 1. To bring about a change in the Laws of the Country or the Government by the use of force or violence; 2. To raise unrest and disaffection amongst the people in a manner likely to cause disturbance in the country; or 3. To cause the people to transgress the laws of the Country, shall be punished with imprisonment not exceeding seven years. Section 117 Whoever, instigates or causes a strike, lockout, or concerted cessation of trade or business with any person for the purpose of bringing about any change in the Laws of the Country, coercing the Government or intimidating the public, shall be punished with imprisonment not exceeding seven years or fine not exceeding fourteen thousand Baht, or both. - Whoever, with the knowledge of the above purpose, takes part or assists in the said strike, lock-out, or concerted cessation of trade or business with any person shall be punished with imprisonment not exceeding three years or fine not exceeding six thousand Baht, or both. - Whoever, with the knowledge of the above purpose, commits any act of violence, threatens to commit any act of violence or intimidates by any means whatever so as to compel any person to take part or assist in any strike, lock-out, or concerted cessation of trade or business with any person, shall be punished with imprisonment not exceeding five years or fine not exceeding ten thousand Baht, or both. Aren,t the first 2 laws in section113, plus the amnesty bill, is why the Thai,s are protesting against the PTP.? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thait Spot Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I guess my dream of seeing him in chains will be spoiled by his powerful backers. dam_n! I'm sure there are other places in bangkok you can live out your fantasies. Sent from my Nexus 4 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poisonus Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 They won't arrest him as it will be game over in BKK, everything will be seized. It is Suthep that is keeping the lid on this situation. Even if it were to come to that, the courts would put him right back on the streets on bail. So all these threats are just hollow words. I expect there are many contingency plans set up in this case, it won't stop any protest, it will just trigger a response that will end up a nightmare for the government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Did the CAPO drop their latest warning by plane to reach Suthep? BTW busy as he is now, caretaker Dept. PM, MoFA and Pheu Thai partylist MP head CAPO Surapong that is, he probably still didn't have time to explain about the new passport to his relative the criminal fugitive. Care-taking PM Yingluck also seems to busy to answer the OMbudsman. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted January 16, 2014 Author Share Posted January 16, 2014 Govt calls on protesters to review Bangkok shutdownBy Digital Content BANGKOK, Jan 16 - Caretaker Deputy Prime Minister Surapong Tovichakchaikul today pleaded with protesters against their continued seizure of Bangkok to avoid further damage to the country.Mr Surapong, who is concurrently foreign minister and chairman of the Centre for the Administration of Peace and Order (CAPO), cited the suspended issuance of passports at the Consular Affairs Department following protesters’ blockade of Chaeng Wattana Road since Monday.The department issues 4,000 passports a day, he said, calling on protest leader Suthep Thaugsuban to stop sealing off the department to facilitate passport applicants.He said the anti-government People’s Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC) should review its activity which has created inconveniences to people and damaged the economy.He said police learned that Mr Suthep, heavily protected by at least 40 security guards and a convoy of eight cars, has been staying at a hotel in Ratchaprasong.“Police are waiting for the right timing to arrest him. Don’t be careless, or he’ll be arrested. We have an arrest warrant,” warned Mr Surapong.Akanat Promphan, PDRC spokesman, said police must be responsible for a series of attacks on rally sites and the Bangkok residence of protest leader Issara Somchai.Explosive devices were hurled into rally sites at Pathumwan and Lat Phrao, and a bomb was thrown into Mr Issara’s house in Laksi late last night. There were no deaths or injuries.Mr Akanat claimed that an underground armed movement has been serving the government by harassing protesters and called on police to take responsibility in preventing such attempted intimidation.He also charged police with abusing their authority by putting up anti-PDRC posters in the city, and instructing police families to join anti-PDRC activities. (MCOT online news) -- TNA 2014-01-16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurentbkk Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Do they want a real clash ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikke Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 From his looks and posture K. Surapong would perfectly blend in with the north korean leadership type of guys. Just give him a uniform and change the backdrop, there you have it. Wrong name, i assume you mean K.Suthep ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinom Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 (edited) From his looks and posture K. Surapong would perfectly blend in with the north korean leadership type of guys. Just give him a uniform and change the backdrop, there you have it. Wrong name, i assume you mean K.Suthep ! No way, Suthep is alive, smiling, using body language. (We are taking appearances) Surapong is exactly the opposite, very miserable, zero charme and charisma. But that smiling and charming part is anyway Yingluck's job in the Shin-clan. Edited January 16, 2014 by dinom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinom Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 From his looks and posture K. Surapong would perfectly blend in with the north korean leadership type of guys. Just give him a uniform and change the backdrop, there you have it. You know your TV name is an anagram of "dim, no?" Nice try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickymaster Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 (edited) From his looks and posture K. Surapong would perfectly blend in with the north korean leadership type of guys. Just give him a uniform and change the backdrop, there you have it. Wrong name, i assume you mean K.Suthep ! Surapong has a very distinct look imo. Very difficult to mistake him for somebody else. Edited January 16, 2014 by Nickymaster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 From his looks and posture K. Surapong would perfectly blend in with the north korean leadership type of guys. Just give him a uniform and change the backdrop, there you have it. You know your TV name is an anagram of "dim, no?" Nice try Wot, no cigar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post saltandpepper Posted January 16, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 16, 2014 Suthep gets more and more disgusting. Death penalty is appropriate for someone who commits rebellion against a whole democratic system in such a dirty way. Sent from my HTC One using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app I am really interested to know what treatment you gonna reserve to Jatuporn, Nattawut, and all the red terrorists who were terrorising the whole city back in 2010..... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickymaster Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 (edited) Suthep gets more and more disgusting. Death penalty is appropriate for someone who commits rebellion against a whole democratic system in such a dirty way. Sent from my HTC One using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app I am really interested to know what treatment you gonna reserve to Jatuporn, Nattawut, and all the red terrorists who were terrorising the whole city back in 2010..... Indeed. Death penalty for Suthep for highlighting corruption. Amnesty for all Red leaders, including master leader Takki, for telling their followers to burn down parts of the city and attack civil servants. Edited January 16, 2014 by Nickymaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MunterHunter Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Anyone even attempting to take Yingluck "hostage" would have to have a death wish. Aside from the "red" police and military, you think she doesn't have the best trained private security guards that money can buy? So they are not Thai Body-guards then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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