webfact Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Oust me by voting, Yingluck urges opponentsThe NationBANGKOK: -- Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra told foreign media Friday that the easy way to bring her down is casting the ballot in the coming election as other unconstitutional ways could not fix up the problems.She told representatives of 15 foreign media on the on-going situation that if the country could pass through the February 2 election, the political conflict would be over.Massive anti-government protest in the capital called Yingluck to step down ahead of the election paving the way for outsiders to set up care taking government to reform the country.Asked if isn’t it time for the Shinawatra family to distant itself from Thai politics and shouldn’t she resign now for the good of the country, Yingluck said: "I’m here because my duty as caretaker prime minister until new government is elected. Cannot say I just step down. Using vote in election is the best way."She urged all conflicting parties to sit together to explore the way out and the protesters' proposal could not be done constitutionally.The coup, if any, to topple her government, would not be a solution. The government would do its best to maintain peace and order in the country, she said.Asked if she consulted former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra, her brother about the situation, she said she did not but kept talking only with her deputies and security team. -- The Nation 2014-01-17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post millwall_fan Posted January 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2014 She is absolutely correct: If you want to bring down the Shins and the PT government, vote them out. All but 28 seats will be up for grabs on Feb 2nd. Get off the streets, give Bangkok residents their streets back and go back to democtratic campaigning. 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TVGerry Posted January 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2014 Don't be a lying idiot. How is the Feb 2 election going to solve the political conflict? So what if you win it? People will still hate you and your brother. The only way to solve this conflict is for your government to distance itself from your idiot brother and actually try to govern this country without any interference from him. You may not be able to govern wisely because most of you are idiots but at very least, try not to come up with hare brained schemes like the rice pledging or tablets for children! 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkman Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 I thought she and her family are only interested in "Peace, not Power." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Don't be a lying idiot. How is the Feb 2 election going to solve the political conflict? So what if you win it? People will still hate you and your brother. The only way to solve this conflict is for your government to distance itself from your idiot brother and actually try to govern this country without any interference from him. You may not be able to govern wisely because most of you are idiots but at very least, try not to come up with hare brained schemes like the rice pledging or tablets for children! BUT, the Thai people voted for them with a big majority........Yes or No............. Doesn't matter who governs, none of them have a clue. So where does the country go..........? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thailand Posted January 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2014 Seems fair? Let the people decide? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod711 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 other unconstitutional ways could not fix up the problems. You have to admit, she is somewhat of an expert when it comes to unconstitutional ways. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 I thought she and her family are only interested in "Peace, not Power." There is nothing left here for her, PTP have been tarnished all past their sell by date. This is the only thing that can be said by her and these few posters, elections are the only way. unless a few are biding their time and have already started to pack their belongings. The other thread re RICE scandal I said my bit. elections in the next 3 months are a no go. she knows this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Timwin Posted January 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) "I’m here because my duty as caretaker prime minister until new government is elected. Cannot say I just step down. Using vote in election is the best way." What part of this is so difficult to you yellow supporters? Instead of some weird "reforms", led by a totally crooked politician and postponing of elections. If the yellows had a believable and fair program for the rural Thais, they are not stupid, and would vote for the yellows but they do not. Instead the only solution for them is voting for the reds whose leaders are about as corrupted as the yellow ones. At least they do SOMETHING for them, instead of total disregard inside Bangkok bubble by the yellow leaders. The arrogant yellows have nothing but contempt to offer. For them, the rural Thais are subhumans, not really worth of anything. Edited January 17, 2014 by Timwin 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jpeg Posted January 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2014 This whole farce is predicated upon a legitimate government asking for their being voted for in an 'election'. Those posters crying for a Western style democracy should ask themselves how they would respond to their home countries being run by proxy from a criminal fugitive, such proxy now being investigated for the sequestration of billions of dollars from state coffers, and no wait, , asking for a further feed at the trough! 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVGerry Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Don't be a lying idiot. How is the Feb 2 election going to solve the political conflict? So what if you win it? People will still hate you and your brother. The only way to solve this conflict is for your government to distance itself from your idiot brother and actually try to govern this country without any interference from him. You may not be able to govern wisely because most of you are idiots but at very least, try not to come up with hare brained schemes like the rice pledging or tablets for children! BUT, the Thai people voted for them with a big majority........Yes or No............. Doesn't matter who governs, none of them have a clue. So where does the country go..........? If they win with a 'big majority', so what? Will it solve the conflict and the divide in this country? Will it stop the violence? She's lying through her teeth because you're going to have all sorts of bombs going off before, during and also AFTER the elections. Saying the political conflict will be over after elections is as usual a big fat lie from her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toybits Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 I am confused by your statement. Please explain and provide examples. Merely blurting it out JUST doesn't mean you are correct. So please indulge me... other unconstitutional ways could not fix up the problems. You have to admit, she is somewhat of an expert when it comes to unconstitutional ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkman Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 If PT win (which of course they will) then they should be the ones running the country, no question. The problem that's happened, the Government abused its position in a huge way. So reforms are needed before an election can come about again. And who's to say they won't try to sneak in the thing that caused all of this (the Amnesty Bill) again. That's what most folks fear, even the ones who hate the protests. The problem is, who heads the Reforms, PT are obviously not going to agree to something that will put them in a bad light or stop with their agenda. And this is the situation we find ourselves in. Suthep doesn't help matters with his stupid People's Council idea, demanding that all Shinawatras go (yes they should go so we could be rid of them once and for all, but it's for the people who decide, not you) and avoiding all talks. The only solution I see which will be best is for a Military led government for a while, while both sides sort out the reforms, then call an election, but even then I cannot see the sides agreeing and will be months and months, or even years of arguing. Just do us all a favour, Thaksin, Yingluck and Suthep, give it up and bugger off all of you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poisonus Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Dems are not running thank you very much, or are you saying vote for one of the other Thaksin controlled parties? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toybits Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 In a nutshell - you have only but CONTEMPT for the established democratic process. If they win with a 'big majority', so what? Will it solve the conflict and the divide in this country? Will it stop the violence? She's lying through her teeth because you're going to have all sorts of bombs going off before, during and also AFTER the elections. Saying the political conflict will be over after elections is as usual a big fat lie from her. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
love1012 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 She is absolutely correct: If you want to bring down the Shins and the PT government, vote them out. All but 28 seats will be up for grabs on Feb 2nd. Get off the streets, give Bangkok residents their streets back and go back to democtratic campaigning. Yes lets have another round of red shirt villages beating and bribing their people to vote red lets have a new deposit of money from Dubai to do it with - lets have her back in power to bring a new amnesty bill to bring back the criminal so he can be president!! - she must thisnk the people of Thailand are ALL stupid!! - We are NOT!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
love1012 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Don't be a lying idiot. How is the Feb 2 election going to solve the political conflict? So what if you win it? People will still hate you and your brother. The only way to solve this conflict is for your government to distance itself from your idiot brother and actually try to govern this country without any interference from him. You may not be able to govern wisely because most of you are idiots but at very least, try not to come up with hare brained schemes like the rice pledging or tablets for children! BUT, the Thai people voted for them with a big majority........Yes or No............. Doesn't matter who governs, none of them have a clue. So where does the country go..........? No ..........and even if they had - Thailand cannot be run for the SOLE PURPOSE of bringing back HER BROTHER!!! That is NOT Democracy - with Democracy comes the law and her last three years have BROKEN IT!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkman Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 "I’m here because my duty as caretaker prime minister until new government is elected. Cannot say I just step down. Using vote in election is the best way." What part of this is so difficult to you yellow supporters? Instead of some weird "reforms", led by a totally crooked politician and postponing of elections. If the yellows had a believable and fair program for the rural Thais, they are not stupid, and would vote for the yellows but they do not. Instead the only solution for them is voting for the reds whose leaders are about as corrupted as the yellow ones. At least they do SOMETHING for them, instead of total disregard inside Bangkok bubble by the yellow leaders. The arrogant yellows have nothing but contempt to offer. For them, the rural Thais are subhumans, not really worth of anything. Have to completely agree with you with regards to how they haven't offered the rural folk any solutions. Though Abhisit's rice pledge at least was paid directly to the farmers and many non PT supporting organisations have to deal with intimidation and threats, the yellows have neglected a valuable source. Your last line is completely wrong and not founded, they don't treat them like that at all. That's complete red propaganda, "Elite vs poor" rubbish. You only had to walk through the protests this week and see the folk, to see it all wasn't gucci bags and iPhones. The problem us anti-Thaksin lot have with what YL is saying, that a Democratically led Government needs reforming; the demanding of bills to be changed, whitewashing criminals, scams that could potentially bankrupt the country, putting tax money into their own pockets. That's what needs to be sorted first. Unless, you think it's all ok to do that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post terryp Posted January 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2014 i find this woman so irritating ..,,,,,basically Shinawatras believe only they have the right ...she is just another misguided fool that will ultimately pay the price & it won’t be pretty 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVGerry Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 In a nutshell - you have only but CONTEMPT for the established democratic process. If they win with a 'big majority', so what? Will it solve the conflict and the divide in this country? Will it stop the violence? She's lying through her teeth because you're going to have all sorts of bombs going off before, during and also AFTER the elections. Saying the political conflict will be over after elections is as usual a big fat lie from her. I have contempt for a corrupt and inept government. I have contempt for a prime minister who lies through her teeth. "She told representatives of 15 foreign media on the on-going situation that if the country could pass through the February 2 election, the political conflict would be over." When the bombs start exploding after the elections, I really like to hear her what she has to say about that again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Don't be a lying idiot. How is the Feb 2 election going to solve the political conflict? So what if you win it? People will still hate you and your brother. The only way to solve this conflict is for your government to distance itself from your idiot brother and actually try to govern this country without any interference from him. You may not be able to govern wisely because most of you are idiots but at very least, try not to come up with hare brained schemes like the rice pledging or tablets for children! BUT, the Thai people voted for them with a big majority........Yes or No............. Doesn't matter who governs, none of them have a clue. So where does the country go..........? No ..........and even if they had - Thailand cannot be run for the SOLE PURPOSE of bringing back HER BROTHER!!! That is NOT Democracy - with Democracy comes the law and her last three years have BROKEN IT!!! You are telling me the present gov didn't win by votes ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
love1012 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 "I’m here because my duty as caretaker prime minister until new government is elected. Cannot say I just step down. Using vote in election is the best way." What part of this is so difficult to you yellow supporters? Instead of some weird "reforms", led by a totally crooked politician and postponing of elections. If the yellows had a believable and fair program for the rural Thais, they are not stupid, and would vote for the yellows but they do not. Instead the only solution for them is voting for the reds whose leaders are about as corrupted as the yellow ones. At least they do SOMETHING for them, instead of total disregard inside Bangkok bubble by the yellow leaders. The arrogant yellows have nothing but contempt to offer. For them, the rural Thais are subhumans, not really worth of anything. rubbish - just because they dont bribe them and use them for their own personal gain like the one in Dubai doesnt mean they disrespect them - just that they treat them like everyone else in thailand!! Phitsanulok, Sukhothai, Hakhon Sawan the South, Pattaya - NOT Bangkok but not red either!! They one of those areas vote red shirt - only the ones bribed and threatened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Scamper Posted January 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2014 " Asked if she consulted former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra, her brother about the situation, she said she did not but kept talking only with her deputies and security team. " Does anybody anywhere - in this country, on this planet, in this solar system believe that ? Not one man or one women on the streets of Bangkok believes that. So who does she talk to ? Her deputies ? All Thaksin appointees ? What about the skype calls - that Thaksin has been so unwisely proud of ? Who else has been able to dictate the inner workings of a country from abroad via skype ? That hasn't even yet been invented in Latin America. So she is speaking to fifteen foreign media outlets. How about talking to the EC ? Do you know they have been trying to get hold of you by phone on a daily basis ? Get a grip, woman. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
love1012 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 This whole farce is predicated upon a legitimate government asking for their being voted for in an 'election'. Those posters crying for a Western style democracy should ask themselves how they would respond to their home countries being run by proxy from a criminal fugitive, such proxy now being investigated for the sequestration of billions of dollars from state coffers, and no wait, , asking for a further feed at the trough! ++++1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Timwin Posted January 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) If PT win (which of course they will) then they should be the ones running the country, no question. The problem that's happened, the Government abused its position in a huge way. So reforms are needed before an election can come about again. What exactly are those reforms needed? Compared to decades old nepotism under the yellow rule for the Bangkok elite, the reds have not abused their position anywhere near of their level! The same group of Bangkok elite families are still running the show more or less. They only bitch about not being the top dog anymore and about the rural Thais having actually power to oppose them! It is so outrageous...! Edited January 17, 2014 by Timwin 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diceq Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Love to read these fascist justifications. Hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaisaregrt Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 There are a lot of views being bandied around in here, one thing thai visa members have that a lot of thais dont is the ability to really know exactly what is happening in Thailand, we can make up our minds without being paid or bribed to do so. Seeing this is the case how about thai visa run a poll for all members to vote to see if people with the true knowledge would vote for shinawatra or Thailand, this isnt about reds and yellows but the country as a whole, something a lot seem to have forgotten in their own biased versions of events. How about it mods, can we run a poll to see who would get our votes, would not be for any party but for either the shinawatra clan and their policies or for the Thailand people and the removal of the current policies/corruption from politics(not the dems or suthep), certainly would silence a lot of nay sayers and some of the twisted comments, they are just getting worse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diceq Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 So reforms are needed before an election can come about again. I hate to break it to you, but Thailand is a democracy, and the Thai people do not want your reforms. If you don't like it, maybe you can go and live in China or North Korea. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post love1012 Posted January 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2014 In a nutshell - you have only but CONTEMPT for the established democratic process. If they win with a 'big majority', so what? Will it solve the conflict and the divide in this country? Will it stop the violence? She's lying through her teeth because you're going to have all sorts of bombs going off before, during and also AFTER the elections. Saying the political conflict will be over after elections is as usual a big fat lie from her. Democracy is not only about numbers - it is ALSO about the LAW - that is what makes Thaksin unacceptable - otherwise its 2 wolves and a sheep arguing about what to eat for dinner!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
love1012 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Don't be a lying idiot. How is the Feb 2 election going to solve the political conflict? So what if you win it? People will still hate you and your brother. The only way to solve this conflict is for your government to distance itself from your idiot brother and actually try to govern this country without any interference from him. You may not be able to govern wisely because most of you are idiots but at very least, try not to come up with hare brained schemes like the rice pledging or tablets for children! BUT, the Thai people voted for them with a big majority........Yes or No............. Doesn't matter who governs, none of them have a clue. So where does the country go..........? No ..........and even if they had - Thailand cannot be run for the SOLE PURPOSE of bringing back HER BROTHER!!! That is NOT Democracy - with Democracy comes the law and her last three years have BROKEN IT!!! You are telling me the present gov didn't win by votes ? B-I-G M-A-J-O-R-I-T-Y!!!!! watch my lips!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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