Timwin Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Oh really: "Is a Planetary Cooling Spell Straight Ahead? NASA: We May Be On the Verge of a “Mini-Maunder” Event." http://www.globalresearch.ca/nasa-we-may-be-on-the-verge-of-a-mini-maunder-event-is-a-planetary-cooling-spell-straight-ahead/5318725 Global Cooling: Arctic Ice Cap Grows 60 Percent In A Year [NASA PHOTO] http://www.isciencetimes.com/articles/6040/20130911/global-cooling-arctic-ice-cap-60-photo.htm Yeah,really. The denialist are like zombies, keep coming back with ever more ridicilous stuff. http://www.theguardian.com/environment/planet-oz/2013/may/17/zombie-climate-sceptic-theories-newspapers-tv http://www.fairfaxclimatewatch.com/blog/2013/11/the-rise-and-fall-of-the-westerlies.html http://www.desmoinesregister.com/usatoday/article/2794255 http://www.theguardian.com/environment/georgemonbiot/2013/sep/27/ipcc-climate-change-report-global-warming 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kimamey Posted January 23, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 23, 2014 That's because of Global Warming! Record cold temperatures around the world won't stop the global warming industry with their dire predictions. That is funny, the scientific community is very solidly behind the global climate change, but still your kinds of amateurs think they know better! There is no debate among scientists whether it is happening or not, it is already proven it is happening. That debate among scientists happened already during the 90's. The only question is how many degrees more warmer. The models have been actually too conservative, the warming is on the upper section of the temperature range. Only in the media the few idiotic (mostly American) denialists are given endlessly time to spill more of their BS, given false impression the climate scientists are somehow still divided about the subject. No, they are not. Btw, extreme weather patterns are part of the climate change because warming changes the wind patterns, the low and high pressure areas. Scandinavia had very mild, snowless winter until about January 10th, even some flowers started blossoming. Something out of Paris/Zurich latitude level, 20 degrees to the south. Then the temperatures suddenly dropped to -20 to -30 C in few days because the wind patterns turned into more what used to be normal. Northern America had very cold December due to change in the polar vortex but then again summers have been very hot in many places there. The planet Venus is an extreme example of the greenhouse effect. The wind speeds there are 300-400 km/h. We are going to get more extreme winds because the warming widens the differences in air pressure areas. I don't know if all your facts are correct but I do know that overall temperatures have risen. The argument is mainly over how much of that is down to human intervention and how much is the normal cycles the earth goes through. It's most likely a combination of the two. The reason for so much emphasis on trying to lower human influence on climate now is because if we wait and it turns out it is down to us then it may be too late. It doesn't really matter if someone in the USA, Europe or Asia is affected as there are areas that are being affected now by our actions. A bit of a change now could give enough time for technology to help. As for the fact Thailand is colder this year, that's irrelevant as climate change is a long term situation which is why it's not such a good idea to wait and see what happens. Global warming is a term applied to the overall temperature around the Earth but that warming can affect weather patterns which can cause warming and cooling in different areas. Still it has been bloody cold hasn't it? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardandtubs Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Oh really: "Is a Planetary Cooling Spell Straight Ahead? NASA: We May Be On the Verge of a “Mini-Maunder” Event." http://www.globalresearch.ca/nasa-we-may-be-on-the-verge-of-a-mini-maunder-event-is-a-planetary-cooling-spell-straight-ahead/5318725 Global Cooling: Arctic Ice Cap Grows 60 Percent In A Year [NASA PHOTO] http://www.isciencetimes.com/articles/6040/20130911/global-cooling-arctic-ice-cap-60-photo.htm Yeah,really. The denialist are like zombies, keep coming back with ever more ridicilous stuff. http://www.theguardian.com/environment/planet-oz/2013/may/17/zombie-climate-sceptic-theories-newspapers-tv http://www.fairfaxclimatewatch.com/blog/2013/11/the-rise-and-fall-of-the-westerlies.html http://www.desmoinesregister.com/usatoday/article/2794255 http://www.theguardian.com/environment/georgemonbiot/2013/sep/27/ipcc-climate-change-report-global-warming You're just blindly accepting what journalists and the global warming industry tells you. Do you have any idea about the science of it beyond what you read in The Grauniad? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greer Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 That's because of Global Warming! Record cold temperatures around the world won't stop the global warming industry with their dire predictions. NASA has figure that show the warming trend - short term variations are normal - its the long term figures that count - and they do not look good. "NASA Science News for Jan. 21, 2014 NASA scientists say 2013 tied with 2009 and 2006 for the seventh warmest year since 1880, continuing a long-term trend of rising global temperatures. With the exception of 1998, the 10 warmest years in the 134-year record all have occurred since 2000, with 2010 and 2005 ranking as the warmest years on record. The average temperature in 2013 was 58.3 degrees Fahrenheit (14.6 Celsius), which is 1.1 F (0.6 C) warmer than the mid-20th century baseline. The average global temperature has risen about 1.4 degrees F (0.8 C) since 1880, according to the new analysis. Exact rankings for individual years are sensitive to data inputs and analysis methods. Scientists emphasize that weather patterns always will cause fluctuations in average temperatures from year to year, but the continued increases in greenhouse gas levels in Earth's atmosphere are driving a long-term rise in global temperatures. Each successive year will not necessarily be warmer than the year before, but with the current level of greenhouse gas emissions, scientists expect each successive decade to be warmer than the previous." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimamey Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I like how the media and people like to side track the real issue by getting into some debate over global warming. While there is not debate concerning the extreme weather and climate changes we are having now along with the massive polluting of our air and water to such a degree that there may not be any clean water to drink or air to breath in the near future. These are facts that need to be looked at and dealt with instead of getting side tracked with global warming debates while the Titanic is heading straight for an iceberg! Aren't those all possibly connected? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timwin Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 There hasn't been any warming in 16 years. Whilst true that there might be a small warming due to the extra man made CO2, it's not going to have much effect on our climate. Which we can see it hasn't. What does have a huge effect are the number of sunspots. Prepare for a lot colder weather. Soon we will all be wishing that Global Warming was real.The Scandinavian early winter was mild. But now it is not. Now record cold temperatures are being recorded. Also, the last summer was one of the mildest on record. And it should be clear to anyone, that people who call others 'denialists' for not believing their theory, do not have an honest agenda. 1998 was exceptionally hot year due mainly to being El Nino year. It was actually a taste of what we are going to get more and more, without El Nino. "So why was 1998 so hot? According to New Scientist, who touched on the statistical reason very briefly, it was due to a particularly strong El Niño, a feature of the South Pacific climate that occurs most Christmases which results in hotter, drier weather." http://sarahlicity.co.uk/2011/04/16/anthropomorphic-climate-change-and-the-1998-myth/ "Hot in here: 2013 Australia’s hottest year on record - The Bureau of Meteorology’s annual climate statement shows 2013 was Australia’s hottest year since records began in 1910. The national mean temperature was 1.20 degrees celsius above the 1961-1990 average. “One of the interesting things about this is that outside of 2013 [and 2005] the other four hottest years were all associated with El Nino or close to El Nino conditions in the pacific,” Mr Trewin said. The bureau says Australia has experienced just one cooler-than-average year in the past decade – 2011." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackr Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) school in Tambon Terd Thai , headmaster'd by one Khun Terdsak. /Certainly coldest ongoing weather I've known it in CM.// Edited January 23, 2014 by jackr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losworld Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Don't laugh that is from page 10 of Al Gore's bullshit bible. The next page says if it gets cold in Scandanavia just reverse everything you've said. That is funny, the scientific community is very solidly behind the global climate change, but still your kinds of amateurs think they know better! There is no debate among scientists whether it is happening or not, it is already proven it is happening. That debate among scientists happened already during the 90's. The only question is how many degrees more warmer. The models have been actually too conservative, the warming is on the upper section of the temperature range. Only in the media the few idiotic (mostly American) denialists are given endlessly time to spill more of their BS, given false impression the climate scientists are somehow still divided about the subject. No, they are not. Btw, extreme weather patterns are part of the climate change because warming changes the wind patterns, the low and high pressure areas. Scandinavia had very mild, snowless winter until about January 10th, even some flowers started blossoming. Something out of Paris/Zurich latitude level, 20 degrees to the south. Then the temperatures suddenly dropped to -20 to -30 C in few days because the wind patterns turned into more what used to be normal. Northern America had very cold December due to change in the polar vortex but then again summers have been very hot in many places there. The planet Venus is an extreme example of the greenhouse effect. The wind speeds there are 300-400 km/h. We are going to get more extreme winds because the warming widens the differences in air pressure areas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diceq Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 It was actually a taste of what we are going to get more and more, without El Nino. And how exactly did you come to that conclusion? Again, the sunspots tell us that we're heading towards a colder climate. Possibly another little ice age. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney R Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I am rather enjoying the change for I know in about 2 months there will be many on here complaining about the extreme heat and humidity . It is rather nice to put a jacket on at night , no fans or air conditioning and still warm enough to go swimming during the day with sea a bit cooler not like getting into a warm bath very refreshing . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 The amount of sunspots tend to correlate with the climate. 400 years of Sunspots And a longer timespan The Little Ice Age during Maunder Minimum http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maunder_Minimum#Little_Ice_Age Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post canman Posted January 23, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 23, 2014 That's because of Global Warming! Record cold temperatures around the world won't stop the global warming industry with their dire predictions. NASA has figure that show the warming trend - short term variations are normal - its the long term figures that count - and they do not look good. "NASA Science News for Jan. 21, 2014 NASA scientists say 2013 tied with 2009 and 2006 for the seventh warmest year since 1880, continuing a long-term trend of rising global temperatures. With the exception of 1998, the 10 warmest years in the 134-year record all have occurred since 2000, with 2010 and 2005 ranking as the warmest years on record. The average temperature in 2013 was 58.3 degrees Fahrenheit (14.6 Celsius), which is 1.1 F (0.6 C) warmer than the mid-20th century baseline. The average global temperature has risen about 1.4 degrees F (0.8 C) since 1880, according to the new analysis. Exact rankings for individual years are sensitive to data inputs and analysis methods. Scientists emphasize that weather patterns always will cause fluctuations in average temperatures from year to year, but the continued increases in greenhouse gas levels in Earth's atmosphere are driving a long-term rise in global temperatures. Each successive year will not necessarily be warmer than the year before, but with the current level of greenhouse gas emissions, scientists expect each successive decade to be warmer than the previous." This is all still a short term trend. Go back several hundred years and you can find long periods of much warmer weather and long periods of much cooler weather. It is all part of a series of natural cycles which are only now being understood. The recent slight warming trend (which stopped about 10 years ago) has very little if anything to do with CO2. Noe of the computer models based on the "CO2" data have been anywhere near accurate. As they say in the scientific community "back to the drawing boards!" 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katipo Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Tragic that 63 people from the Northern Provences have lost thier lives due to the weather !!! .... Where is the Government, where is the help ??? Helping herself to a nice new pair of Burberry boots at Paragon with her ill gotten gains. Where did you expect? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draftvader Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Tragic that 63 people from the Northern Provences have lost thier lives due to the weather !!! .... Where is the Government, where is the help ??? Helping herself to a nice new pair of Burberry boots at Paragon with her ill gotten gains. Where did you expect? That's nice, they'll keep her nice and warm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chappie1207 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 No A/C or fan at night, just window open and the best nights kip i've had in ages!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diceq Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Tragic that 63 people from the Northern Provences have lost thier lives due to the weather !!! .... Where is the Government, where is the help ??? The government has already helped. More people would probably have died if it wasn't for the now affordable health care system. Which has probably saved thousands more lives. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkfaranguy Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Blame it on Suthep and his crowd. Seems as if their combined weigh mass has put Thailand's land mass slightly out of kilter thus Thailand has entered a cold weather stream all due to the protesters weight. LOL, Nice Picture of Suthep and Abiset! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwyn Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 That's because of Global Warming! Record cold temperatures around the world won't stop the global warming industry with their dire predictions. That is funny, the scientific community is very solidly behind the global climate change, but still your kinds of amateurs think they know better! There is no debate among scientists whether it is happening or not, it is already proven it is happening. That debate among scientists happened already during the 90's. The only question is how many degrees more warmer. The models have been actually too conservative, the warming is on the upper section of the temperature range. Only in the media the few idiotic (mostly American) denialists are given endlessly time to spill more of their BS, given false impression the climate scientists are somehow still divided about the subject. No, they are not. Btw, extreme weather patterns are part of the climate change because warming changes the wind patterns, the low and high pressure areas. Scandinavia had very mild, snowless winter until about January 10th, even some flowers started blossoming. Something out of Paris/Zurich latitude level, 20 degrees to the south. Then the temperatures suddenly dropped to -20 to -30 C in few days because the wind patterns turned into more what used to be normal. Northern America had very cold December due to change in the polar vortex but then again summers have been very hot in many places there. The planet Venus is an extreme example of the greenhouse effect. The wind speeds there are 300-400 km/h. We are going to get more extreme winds because the warming widens the differences in air pressure areas. Climate change is part of nature, global warming though has been debunked by scientists. In fact according to some scientists we're entering anoth mini ice-age similar to the one of the 1600's. The reason has nothing to do with aerosols or cows farting but everything to do with the sun with almost zero solar flares at the moment. People who say climate change is the fault of humans need to rethink something. First humans are actually part of nature, like it or not. Second climate change has been with earth for millions of years, it's not new. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude123 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Since I live in Canada, you all probably don't want to hear my comments about the "cold" snap in Thailand! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWMcMurray Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 No A/C or fan at night, just window open and the best nights kip i've had in ages!!! Agree!!!! Last night was very nice... First time I turned off the AC in years Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 The planet Venus is an extreme example of the greenhouse effect. The wind speeds there are 300-400 km/h. We are going to get more extreme winds because the warming widens the differences in air pressure areas. The climate difference between Venus and Earth might have something to do with the distance from the Sun. Venus is about 0.7 AU from the Sun, while Earth is 1. The total solar radiation on Venus is 2643W/m2, while in Earth the TSI is 1370W/m2. During the little ice age, it's estimated that the total solar radiation to the Earth dropped less than 1W/m2. If the TSI to Earth would increase 1200W/m2, we would surely have quite different climate. To use Venus as an example of greenhouse effect, while talking about climate politics, is simply wrong and misleading. http://www.atmos.washington.edu/2002Q4/211/notes_greenhouse.html http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2011GL048529/abstract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timwin Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 The average temperature in 2013 was 58.3 degrees Fahrenheit (14.6 Celsius), which is 1.1 F (0.6 C) warmer than the mid-20th century baseline. The average global temperature has risen about 1.4 degrees F (0.8 C) since 1880, according to the new analysis. Exact rankings for individual years are sensitive to data inputs and analysis methods. Scientists emphasize that weather patterns always will cause fluctuations in average temperatures from year to year, but the continued increases in greenhouse gas levels in Earth's atmosphere are driving a long-term rise in global temperatures. Each successive year will not necessarily be warmer than the year before, but with the current level of greenhouse gas emissions, scientists expect each successive decade to be warmer than the previous." This is all still a short term trend. Go back several hundred years and you can find long periods of much warmer weather and long periods of much cooler weather. First you denialists say "no warming since 1998!" and then all of sudden "that is all still a short term trend, you should look at many centuries"! But not the last one, right? Contradicting your own statements. That is so typical for denialists. Switching time periods at will and spot weather statistics, "It was very cold in New York last month, the climate change is a big hoax!". What matters in science is the published peer reviewed papers, not what somebody says in his blog. Those scientific papers overwhelmingly (99.5 percent or more) support the climate change models. If there were still conflicting facts about the climate change out there, somebody would have already written a paper about it, proving with facts that these models are wrong. Then gotten more and more support eventually but no such paper exists. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 The weather seems to be cold here in Phuket as well. In the evening temperature drops to +23C, which means that I have to put long pants on due cold. Friends back home are not impressed of when I complain about the cold weather on Facebook. Instead they post temperatures which are 26C with the funny looking dash sign in the front of the number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harryfrompattaya Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 That's because of Global Warming! The earth is like a human body This is the Chill before the Fever Let us all pray I wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post diceq Posted January 23, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 23, 2014 First you denialists say "no warming since 1998!" and then all of sudden "that is all still a short term trend, you should look at many centuries"! But not the last one, right? Contradicting your own statements. That is so typical for denialists. Switching time periods at will and spot weather statistics, "It was very cold in New York last month, the climate change is a big hoax!". What matters in science is the published peer reviewed papers, not what somebody says in his blog. Those scientific papers overwhelmingly (99.5 percent or more) support the climate change models. If there were still conflicting facts about the climate change out there, somebody would have already written a paper about it, proving with facts that these models are wrong. Then gotten more and more support eventually but no such paper exists. There is no contradiction there. According to the theory we should expect to see the temperature increasing. We're not seeing that. Therefor we are suggesting that the warming we did see is caused by normal cyclic climate. That most scientific papers support the Global Warming theory is not strange. Since those studies are funded by the Global Warming industry, or governments who have an agenda to further this lie. And what truly matters in science, is that the predictions of theories come true. They haven't in this case. Yet these "scientists" still believe in it. Which isn't strange either, since they get paid to do exactly that. "It's hard to get a man to understand something, when his salary is dependent on him not understanding it." 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 The weather seems to be cold here in Phuket as well. In the evening temperature drops to +23C, which means that I have to put long pants on due cold. Friends back home are not impressed of when I complain about the cold weather on Facebook. Instead they post temperatures which are 26C with the funny looking dash sign in the front of the number. It's the mornings where I feel it, and I'm about 300km up the coast from you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete66 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Always makes me laugh when Thais say their number 1 wish is to "see snow". An average Thai would last about 30 seconds at snow temperatures before running back to Thailand its only 12 or 13 degrees here at night, and Thais can't take it. C'est la vie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete66 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 No A/C or fan at night, just window open and the best nights kip i've had in ages!!! Agree!!!! Last night was very nice... First time I turned off the AC in years Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I live in Chiang Mai and not had A/C on for 4 months .... makes amazing difference to electric bills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gweiloman Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Tragic that 63 people from the Northern Provences have lost thier lives due to the weather !!! .... Where is the Government, where is the help ??? Helping herself to a nice new pair of Burberry boots at Paragon with her ill gotten gains. Where did you expect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey in Udon early hours this morning. Thai Met Office reported it as 8.7C. Clang, is there a welder on the premises ? Do you know what a brass monkey is ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.png.3b3332cc2256ad0edbc2fe9404feeef0.png)
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now