rikki Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 I got a red stamp in Vientiane, and was only given a single entry tourist visa there in October 2013. Was given a piece of paper saying mmany people had been working without permits. Last time I went to Mae Sai (2nd time since october) for visa on arrival, they told me I couldnt go there again, and said I would have to fly into Thailand the next time. So my questions are; , can I still get Visa on Arrival some other land crossing? Can I still get tourist visa from another place(Svannaket,Penang,Phnom Penh, Rangoon etc)? Or do I need to fly back into thailand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 You have been getting visa exempt entries not VOA's. You would probably be OK at any other border crossing other than Mae Sot. You could try another consulate or embassy for a visa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post IMA_FARANG Posted January 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) You may be able to get a visa somewhere else, but you are stretching your luck and running out of options soon. That "piece of paper" you got about people working illegally in Thailand was meant as a warning to you. That's because they are trying to tell you they don't believe you are a legitimate tourist and are probably working in Thailand. It is a "Thai way" of "saving face" and not directly confronting you with the accusation that you are not a real tourist. In Thailand, direct confrontation of another person is not good form, it not only causes the Thai making the accusation "lose face" but it also makes the person confronted "lose face",so they tried to tell you politely .... in a Thai way. It would be wise to pay attention to their hint, and find some other way of staying in Thailand by finding another way of getting a legal visa, before they get really angry. Don't deliberately tweak the Tiger's nose, because the Tiger has sharp claws and big teeth if you get him angry. Edited January 29, 2014 by IMA_FARANG 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falkan Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 get a ed visa around 25k a year.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wayned Posted January 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2014 Maybe time to get a new passport. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ianatlarge Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Maybe try Cambo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthai Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 get a ed visa around 25k a year.. Agree, that is what I did 3 years ago. Over a year it is even just a little cheaper than Loas runs. School is only 4 hours, so that should not be a problem for anyone. Now after 3 years ED-Visa I am ready for retirement visa/age Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct99q Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 get a ed visa around 25k a year.. Agree, that is what I did 3 years ago. Over a year it is even just a little cheaper than Loas runs. School is only 4 hours, so that should not be a problem for anyone. Now after 3 years ED-Visa I am ready for retirement visa/age And on top of that after studying Thai for three years you must be nearly fluent in reading, writing and speaking. Well done. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slipperylobster Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 You may be able to get a visa somewhere else, but you are stretching your luck and running out of options soon. That "piece of paper" you got about people working illegally in Thailand was meant as a warning to you. That's because they are trying to tell you they don't believe you are a legitimate tourist and are probably working in Thailand. It is a "Thai way" of "saving face" and not directly confronting you with the accusation that you are not a real tourist. In Thailand, direct confrontation of another person is not good form, it not only causes the Thai making the accusation "lose face" but it also makes the person confronted "lose face",so they tried to tell you politely .... in a Thai way. It would be wise to pay attention to their hint, and find some other way of staying in Thailand by finding another way of getting a legal visa, before they get really angry. Don't deliberately tweak the Tiger's nose, because the Tiger has sharp claws and big teeth if you get him angry. No..they are not afraid to tell you that you are doing something wrong. They will confront you and tell you plainly. Had them speak to me plainly many times, and you can find many posts where officials dealing with visas will tell you up front. Nothing to do with "face". It is just a warning and only that. You know what to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slipperylobster Posted January 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2014 Let me add....some people, if fact, like being tourists..and are not qualified (perhaps financially) for the retirement/marraige option. There is nothing wrong with having a tourist visa and flying out a few times a year....crossing borders, etc. Many do this. It does not mean they are breaking laws or working. Perfectly acceptable...just mix up the borders and fly out a few times. It really is not expensive....and you will enjoy your stay here better. If you are working, married, or just want to be stuck here 365 days a year..then get your long stay visas. Many of us are not....does not mean we are negligent. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tragickingdom Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Change your passport for a new one. Or tell your embassy you need two passports. It is not unusual, if they refuse tell them you have to go to Israel and after that to the gulf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louse1953 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Maybe time to get a new passport. You heard of computers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheRun Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Change your passport for a new one. Or tell your embassy you need two passports. It is not unusual, if they refuse tell them you have to go to Israel and after that to the gulf. I did the 2 passport thing for years when they came out with the rule saying you were only allowed into Thailand for a certain amount of days per year on VOA, I forget the exact ruling. Wind the clock forward a few years and I had a post working in Thailand. When I went to renew my work visa the immigration officer informed me since I had 2 passports I should only use my passport with the work visa to enter the country, not that I would have done otherwise anyway. The thing that struck me was how he knew I had 2 passports as I or my agent never mentioned it to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iTravelNow Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 A flight with Air Asia from BKK to Penang cost you anywhere from 4000 to 4500 baht two way. Just had this last weekend. So the cost are really low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suradit69 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 get a ed visa around 25k a year.. Agree, that is what I did 3 years ago. Over a year it is even just a little cheaper than Loas runs. School is only 4 hours, so that should not be a problem for anyone. Now after 3 years ED-Visa I am ready for retirement visa/age And on top of that after studying Thai for three years you must be nearly fluent in reading, writing and speaking. Well done. "Over a year it is even just a little cheaper than Loas runs." "you must be nearly fluent in reading, writing and speaking." Does that include reading, writing and speaking "Loas?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suradit69 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Change your passport for a new one. Or tell your embassy you need two passports. It is not unusual, if they refuse tell them you have to go to Israel and after that to the gulf. I did the 2 passport thing for years when they came out with the rule saying you were only allowed into Thailand for a certain amount of days per year on VOA, I forget the exact ruling. Wind the clock forward a few years and I had a post working in Thailand. When I went to renew my work visa the immigration officer informed me since I had 2 passports I should only use my passport with the work visa to enter the country, not that I would have done otherwise anyway. The thing that struck me was how he knew I had 2 passports as I or my agent never mentioned it to them. "you were only allowed into Thailand for a certain amount of days per year on VOA," Visa On Arrival is not a Visa Exempt Entry. Either the Immigrations officer was quite confused ... or could it have been you're from Lithuania? The VISA ON ARRIVAL allows passport holders of 19* countries to enter Thailand under this rule provided that they meet these requirements: The visit is strictly for tourism purposes. They must have a confirmed return ticket to show that they are flying out of Thailand within 30 or 15 days of entry, as appropriate. Open tickets do not qualify. Travelling overland out of Thailand by train, bus, etc to Cambodia, Laos, Malaysia (including en route to Singapore), Myanmar, etc is not accepted as proof of exiting Thailand. You may be asked to show your flight ticket on entering Thailand. If you do not possess a flight ticket to show you will be exiting Thailand within 30 or 15 days of entry you will be most likely to be refused entry. It will also be necessary to prove that you have funds of at least 20,000 THB per person during your stay in Thailand. A fee of 1,000 THB is payable upon entry and is subject to change without notice. However, persons who are not eligible to enter Thailand under the VISA ON ARRIVAL and VISA EXEMPTION RULE are advised to obtain visas with the Royal Thai Embassy prior to their visit. Countries eligible to enter Thailand under the VISA ON ARRIVAL rule: Bhutan China Cyprus Czech Republic Estonia Hungary India Kazakhstan Latvia Liechtenstein Lithuania Maldives Mauritius Poland Saudi Arabia Slovakia Slovenia Taiwan Ukraine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koo Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 (edited) The thing that struck me was how he knew I had 2 passports as I or my agent never mentioned it to them. Easy - if you have used both passports at any border or at Immigration, they have the information on their computers. The advice for red stamped passports to be replaced by new ones only works as long as the embassies granting the visas do not run a search on you in the Immigration system, and they normally don't. Once some higher boss makes new rules that the immigration database has to be consulted on every visa application, renewing your passport to a "clean one" won't help any more. And trust me, that day is going to arrive, sooner or later, since the technology is there and the databases are already up to date, it is now only upon the users (visa officers) to adopt the practise. Edited January 30, 2014 by koo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slipperylobster Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 A flight with Air Asia from BKK to Penang cost you anywhere from 4000 to 4500 baht two way. Just had this last weekend. So the cost are really low. Also 3500 baht one way to Philippines...saw a return flight for 700 baht. so more or less the same as Penang. And Philippines has......Angeles...if you need that. What a great week away. If Angeles is too much like soi six in Pattaya, then go to Barrio Barretto near Olongapo. You fly in at Clark and Fields Ave (Angeles City) is just five minutes from the terminal. Barrio Barretto has some nice clubs and pubs on the beach... (one hour from Angeles). Thats how I do it boyz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rikki Posted February 15, 2014 Author Share Posted February 15, 2014 Update- I had no problem getting a visa on arrival at Chiang Kong/friendship bridge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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