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I must have missed the link to any of the convictions you just summed up .

there are all the sources in his biography.

Everybody knows the criminal Suthep is.

You must have just arrived to Thailand to have missed what he did to the Democratic Party in the 90s and what he had done in Surath Thani .

He was convicted several times. Just check the sources or go and ask Chuan Leekpai or anyone in Surath Thani.

So it should not be difficult to provide a link to his conviction for murder, as you claim.

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The people have spoken. Jail Suthep and his lackeys now!

..............what for?.....................................standing up to a criminal? You can always go back home!! You dont have a say by the way!!

No, to arrest your boss and your hero Suthep, one of the biggest criminal in Thailand, CONVICTED for fraud, murder, violation of the Constitution, etc..

Your hero has a whole life of committing crime

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suthep_Thaugsuban

Did you hero call you to tell word by word all the insults of the day against the forumists ?

We can see here the Suthep's followers the only thing they are capable of is insulting the other forumists.

When did Suthep get convicted for fraud, murder or violation of the constitution?

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Looks like Suthep and his lackeys failed to stop democracy!

And what democracy was that

Its too difficult to explain. Get your mom to tell you when your 15.

Maybe the 6 million man picnic that brought bangkok to it's knees should be extended. lol

Suthep is doomed now. Police have all the evidence and warrents and they'll strike as the mob falls in size. They have the facebook group pics now of the guards with the guns. The PDRC are that blatant.

Power to the people and well done to everybody who voted. I was in klong toey with my wife today and not a whistle to be seen. all that area was free to vote, and many did. The fascist had a few phyric victories. I mean, they had promised to block the whole thing and even with the EC conniving and an armed gang, they could only affect 10% of the Country!

Great day out Suthep. After unleashing the armed gang yesterday, I feel we'll be seeing much less of you in years to come. The backers. They are outed as well, and once the mob is gone, they will have to switch sides or perish.

Well done to the Government, The election was peaceful apart from Dem/PDRC side who want dictatorship anyway.

Why don't EC, give all the votes in the South to Suthep to cast as he wishes for all time. One man, one vote and he can just tell them where they go. Then the muppets in the south get an instant awakening to the fact that Suthep rules them. Educate... You think so? Give hard fought voting rights to Suthep... smile.png up to you

...............Now ..............cancel the result..............NEXT!!!

Dream on Lover boy.

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Yingluck adheres to one principle of democracy and she can't even get that one right.

Maybe the EC should modify the ballot boxes to be more Yingluck friendly?

Square holes for the constituency system and triangular holes for the party-list system.

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Thaksin was convicted by who ? By an ILLEGAL putschist government who staged a coup against democracy.

Thaksin government was BY FAR the least corrupted government in Thailand.

This is not my study, but Transparency International's.

He was ousted because the billionaire elite of Bangkok couldn't stand to see a pneny spent for the Northeast, where almost all food is produced, where all Thailand eats from (34% of the population just receiving a 6% of expenses, source :World Bank) and ousted also coz his war against the YAA BAA (thus saving the lives of dozens of thousands of Thais) was killing the business of some very powerful men in uniform.

Than, the military controlled judiciary convicted him. The real criminals , the generals who killed thousands of innocent people in 1976, 1992, etc,,,never ever spent a day in jail. These are the real criminals.

THaksin wasn't a saint either, but he was surely better than these people and than guys like Suthep.

I don't think the Samak/PPP (Thaksin proxy) government (which was in power at the time Thaksin was convicted) was illegal. Samak also happened to be heavily involved in the 1976 massacre, and said a couple of years before his death that only one person died then. Was he a real criminal too?

Transparency international does surveys on corruption perception, not corruption.

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Looks like Suthep and his lackeys failed to stop democracy!

And what democracy was that

Its too difficult to explain. Get your mom to tell you when your 15.

Maybe the 6 million man picnic that brought bangkok to it's knees should be extended. lol

Suthep is doomed now. Police have all the evidence and warrents and they'll strike as the mob falls in size. They have the facebook group pics now of the guards with the guns. The PDRC are that blatant.

Power to the people and well done to everybody who voted. I was in klong toey with my wife today and not a whistle to be seen. all that area was free to vote, and many did. The fascist had a few phyric victories. I mean, they had promised to block the whole thing and even with the EC conniving and an armed gang, they could only affect 10% of the Country!

Great day out Suthep. After unleashing the armed gang yesterday, I feel we'll be seeing much less of you in years to come. The backers. They are outed as well, and once the mob is gone, they will have to switch sides or perish.

Well done to the Government, The election was peaceful apart from Dem/PDRC side who want dictatorship anyway.

Why don't EC, give all the votes in the South to Suthep to cast as he wishes for all time. One man, one vote and he can just tell them where they go. Then the muppets in the south get an instant awakening to the fact that Suthep rules them. Educate... You think so? Give hard fought voting rights to Suthep... smile.png up to you

Maybe you are right but just maybe you are dead wrong. Since you seem to think democracy is only about freedom to vote makes you and every other thai thinking this way either completely ignorant or completely brainwashed.

Voting for someone you choose to like is all good but that is not democracy. Voting for someone who will work FOR ALL THE people to make this country a better place for everyone is democracy. This country seems to forget this last part about democracy. It is also something the current leader has been severely lacking in doing.

Im sure if the democratic party poured millions of baht into the north they would have thw majority vote the same way Thaksin and YL did. But that only means they are buying votes and followers. Not working to make all of thailand a better stronger country.

Before you start quoting democracy you should google the word. Then compare it to all your previous government leaders have done. I am sure robbing, extorting, bribing, coercing, cheating, etc... are not ways to improve this country yet it is in the news every week here about almost all people in the higher gov positions. AND YOU BACK THEM.... One of these days you will look back at who you support and say "What was i thinking"

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Before you attack the meaning of a democratic society, you should try living in one first. It is about voting for ALL public officials (unlike part of the Thailand government) - one person and one vote regardless of your education, prejudices, income, vocation, etc. It's about convincing voters to support your party at the ballot, not about preventing voters from going to the ballot. If your party doesn't want to work for a majority, it doesn't care about the majority. And in a democratic society, that will make your party irrelevant.

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Why don't EC, give all the votes in the South to Suthep to cast as he wishes for all time. One man, one vote and he can just tell them where they go. Then the muppets in the south get an instant awakening to the fact that Suthep rules them. Educate... You think so? Give hard fought voting rights to Suthep... smile.png up to you

WOW truely amazing that you are happy to have Thailand run by a convicted felon living abroad who should be charged with crimes against humanity

No, what's amazing is that no other political party in Thailand can put forward a candidate with integrity and decency to run against Thaksin's corrupt political machine in an honest and fair election. That fact is really saying about the state of affairs in Thailand, and the reason that Suthep and his backers want to take away the Thai's right to vote for a government of their choice.

Thaksin was convicted by who ? By an ILLEGAL putschist government who staged a coup against democracy.

Thaksin government was BY FAR the least corrupted government in Thailand.

This is not my study, but Transparency International's.

He was ousted because the billionaire elite of Bangkok couldn't stand to see a pneny spent for the Northeast, where almost all food is produced, where all Thailand eats from (34% of the population just receiving a 6% of expenses, source :World Bank) and ousted also coz his war against the YAA BAA (thus saving the lives of dozens of thousands of Thais) was killing the business of some very powerful men in uniform.

Than, the military controlled judiciary convicted him. The real criminals , the generals who killed thousands of innocent people in 1976, 1992, etc,,,never ever spent a day in jail. These are the real criminals.

THaksin wasn't a saint either, but he was surely better than these people and than guys like Suthep.

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does it matter ? Suthep is not in a position to lectue others about transgressions, hes a about as bad as it gets himself... ... the answer to Thailands problems with his bunch of co sycophants they are not and led by this criminal thief it is not

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Why don't EC, give all the votes in the South to Suthep to cast as he wishes for all time. One man, one vote and he can just tell them where they go. Then the muppets in the south get an instant awakening to the fact that Suthep rules them. Educate... You think so? Give hard fought voting rights to Suthep... smile.png up to you

WOW truely amazing that you are happy to have Thailand run by a convicted felon living abroad who should be charged with crimes against humanity

No, what's amazing is that no other political party in Thailand can put forward a candidate with integrity and decency to run against Thaksin's corrupt political machine in an honest and fair election. That fact is really saying about the state of affairs in Thailand, and the reason that Suthep and his backers want to take away the Thai's right to vote for a government of their choice.

Thaksin was convicted by who ? By an ILLEGAL putschist government who staged a coup against democracy.

Thaksin government was BY FAR the least corrupted government in Thailand.

This is not my study, but Transparency International's.

He was ousted because the billionaire elite of Bangkok couldn't stand to see a pneny spent for the Northeast, where almost all food is produced, where all Thailand eats from (34% of the population just receiving a 6% of expenses, source :World Bank) and ousted also coz his war against the YAA BAA (thus saving the lives of dozens of thousands of Thais) was killing the business of some very powerful men in uniform.

Than, the military controlled judiciary convicted him. The real criminals , the generals who killed thousands of innocent people in 1976, 1992, etc,,,never ever spent a day in jail. These are the real criminals.

THaksin wasn't a saint either, but he was surely better than these people and than guys like Suthep.

That general you refer to in 1992 is in the photo below with Thaksin. Thaksin applauded that coup in 1992. He made billions of baht off it.

Sounds like it might be bedy bye time for some one.

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The people have spoken. Jail Suthep and his lackeys now!

..............what for?.....................................standing up to a criminal? You can always go back home!! You dont have a say by the way!!

No, to arrest your boss and your hero Suthep, one of the biggest criminal in Thailand, CONVICTED for fraud, murder, violation of the Constitution, etc..

Your hero has a whole life of committing crime

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suthep_Thaugsuban

Did you hero call you to tell word by word all the insults of the day against the forumists ?

We can see here the Suthep's followers the only thing they are capable of is insulting the other forumists.

I must have missed the link to any of the convictions you just summed up .

I think he missed more than a link.sad.png his post read more likepassifier.gif don't understand why he feels the need to tell porkers Yingluck will be the next Prime Minister and the money will continue to flow out of the government coffers to off shore banks or fill closetscheesy.gif. Now though they are looking to fatten up the calf to the tune of 2.2 trillion baht.crazy.gif

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Why is it when some one tries to reform a corrupt government you feel the need to tell a porker. Suthep came forth with a plan to reform the government. What has Yingluck come up with. Well let us see she has learned how to use Skype.

Did any one see it on the news today where Yingluck voted but it was so complicated that she did it wrong and her vote won't count. So what we have here is a PM who can't figure out how to cast a ballot. Then their is a capable honest man (Abhist) who can not run for office because he did not vote. Truly amazing Thailand. Then you top it off with the fact that she is bound to be the PM but she has some of her supporters talking about splitting the Nation. Yes sirebob truly amazing.cheesy.gif

But she did get some photo ops in. That was the important thing in her way of operating and running the country. She actually was pathetic just standing there with the vote in her hand and staring off into cameras with out letting go of it.giggle.gif

People dribble on about democracy being the right to vote but none of these PTP red shirt dribblers mention Democracy being the right to have an honest transparent government.

Actually, Abhisit will probably still be able to run for office, because his polling station was closed.

I see. So he knew in advance that his polling station will be closed and therefore he can say bravely and publicly that he will not vote, knowing full well that he can then easily sneak in via the back door in form of the by-elections, in case the elections cannot be annulled.

Such valour and leadership..........

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the electorate speaks loud and clear, bye bye Suthep dont let the door hit you on the way out.

suthep and his yellow bullies 0, will of the people 1

How do you know what they voted for??? It might be 99% voted No... Now that would be loud and clear biggrin.png

Very valid point. I think a lot are waiting to hear the ratio of "yes" compared to NO votes as that would be the clearest indication of what the electorate wants.

With Suthep demonzing Abhisit's announcement to vote and Abhisit then backing down from voting, I'd guess not many Suthep supporters voted at all for fear of some kind of reprisal from their own party (irony). I would also suspect those people who did vote in the face of potential violence will have used their vote judiciously for a party candidate.

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RT@tulsathit: A glimpse of Bkk results: A count in Chatuchak shows 67 votes for PT and 48 abstentions. via @chavarong

It would seem that 48 out of 114 of those people went to vote no.

A no vote is saying I don't want you Yingluck.

Forget about the small parties they would all be on their knees begging for scraps from whoever wins.

The ones likely to win a seat are the ones who went into coalition with PT last time and who voted for the amnesty bill.

How did Chatuchak vote in the last elections? Was it a red seat? If not, unsurprisingly that they would vote for PT this time round.

What is more telling is that these 48 people also does not believe in Suthep's People's Council either. A NO vote is saying, I don't want you YL. At the same time, it is also telling the same to Suthep.

A NO vote is saying, I don't want you YL. At the same time, it is also telling the same to Suthep.

It was 48 abstentions, not 48 no votes there is a difference, an abstention from voting was Sutheps aim was it not?

Oh I see, I actually overlooked the report that there were 48 abstentions. I was too quick to jump on Robby's (your side by the way) assertion that there were 48 NO votes, rather than 48 abstentions.

So the actual fact (according to you) is that there were 67 + 48 = 115 registered voters in Chatuchak. Of these 67 voted for PT and the remaining 48 did not go to vote. I don't know about you but it seems a waste to have a poling station for just 115 voters.

Care to spout anymore rubbish / nonsense? (I'm an adult, I don't need to resort to childish icons to make my point).

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Gweiloman, glad that you left HK, or else, you may stir up a <deleted> storm there instead of here! But, it ain't matter where you really are cos you will be the same - the Gweiloman, LOL!

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Gweiloman, glad that you left HK, or else, you may stir up a <deleted> storm there instead of here! But, it ain't matter where you really are cos you will be the same - the Gweiloman, LOL!

Ahh, a fellow expat from Hkg. I had two stints there, 1990-94 and recently 2007-2009. I still go there on a regular basis, about 6 times a year. Wanchai's not what it used to be.... sigh

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If they cancel the result there will be hell to pay, .. the country has voted and those that havnt will.The courts cannot keep nullifying things over and over people just wont accept it.

If the country has chosen then so be it, a few thousand rabid people dosnt make an opposition, go back and come up with real policies and party to oppose or go crawl under a rock smile.png

Well the opposition had almost as much votes (in the popular vote) as the PTP in the last election and dominate all teh south....

That are more than a few thousands.

...almost as many votes...? By what measure?

Constituency: PTP 12.2M / DEM 8.9M (out of a total of 27.5M)

Proportional: PTP 15.7M / DEM 11.4M (out of a total of 32.5M)

If you consider BJT "opposition", then you must consider CP and other minor coalition parties to be PTP, so those "minor party" votes are a wash.

So, I count a 3-4M difference in votes.

Compare this to the US 2012 election where Obama only received 5M (65.9M vs 60.9M) more votes than Romney in an election where almost 130M votes were counted.

No matter how you count it, the "opposition" still has quite the hill to climb against TRT/PTP/the next Shinawatra party.

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Thaksin was convicted by who ? By an ILLEGAL putschist government who staged a coup against democracy.

Thaksin government was BY FAR the least corrupted government in Thailand.

This is not my study, but Transparency International's.

He was ousted because the billionaire elite of Bangkok couldn't stand to see a pneny spent for the Northeast, where almost all food is produced, where all Thailand eats from (34% of the population just receiving a 6% of expenses, source :World Bank) and ousted also coz his war against the YAA BAA (thus saving the lives of dozens of thousands of Thais) was killing the business of some very powerful men in uniform.

Than, the military controlled judiciary convicted him. The real criminals , the generals who killed thousands of innocent people in 1976, 1992, etc,,,never ever spent a day in jail. These are the real criminals.

THaksin wasn't a saint either, but he was surely better than these people and than guys like Suthep.

I don't think the Samak/PPP (Thaksin proxy) government (which was in power at the time Thaksin was convicted) was illegal. Samak also happened to be heavily involved in the 1976 massacre, and said a couple of years before his death that only one person died then. Was he a real criminal too?

Transparency international does surveys on corruption perception, not corruption.

Thaksin wasn't convicted by a coup junta, but he was convicted in a court whose judges were very much a product of the coup junta. They had relinquished power, having failed to prevent Thaksins faction winning the election despite a brave attempt. They remained a very obvious presence in Thai politics. Samak/PPP were in government at the time, but in no position to interfere with the court. They were duly disposed of within a couple of years, and the coup juntas government of choice was installed. The rest as they say, is history.

Perhaps the best judgement passed on that courts verdict was that of the rest of the world, who regarded it as a politically inspired stitch up, and make no attempt to prevent Thaksin from swanning around the world as a free man.

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Get real, there will be no class action, there will be a series of evolving allegations heard by different courts, I know its painful and the Taksin lovers are desperate to end this today but this is Thailand. There are numerous ways to skin a cat as will be revealed as the days and months ahead reveal. There will be a number of PT party MPs who will get done for electoral fraud a vote buying rigging, death by a thousand cuts is the prospect for Taksin, long overdue but as certain as night follows day.

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The Thai EC said it's over, run it again. They all resigned and walked away from their paychecks. After the count is announced, the Thais will start this all over again, and again, The definition of insanity is to keep repeating the same thing over again expecting different results.

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Actually, Abhisit will probably still be able to run for office, because his polling station was closed.

That is INCORRECT.

Please read the Thai electoral law BEFORE posting nonsense.

As thousands of Thais have done today, if your polling station is closed, you are required to file a complaint stating that you could not vote due to that reason. If you did that today, then you will preserve your right to vote at either a repeat election of the district or a new general election.

If you did not file that complaint, you are in violation of the election law and are not allowed to participate in the next election as a candidate.

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What a joke. A sick joke, but a joke. You call that successful elections? The will be annulled within a month and everyone knows it, except for a few wishful thinkers. rolleyes.gif

89% of voters are wishful thinkers?

Come on, these people were more than wishful thinkers.

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Before you attack the meaning of a democratic society, you should try living in one first. It is about voting for ALL public officials (unlike part of the Thailand government) - one person and one vote regardless of your education, prejudices, income, vocation, etc. It's about convincing voters to support your party at the ballot, not about preventing voters from going to the ballot. If your party doesn't want to work for a majority, it doesn't care about the majority. And in a democratic society, that will make your party irrelevant.

Oh dear, another American with the unfortunate belief that the US is the 'be all and end all' of democracy. Strangely , other countries are rated as more democratic, without resorting to electing "ALL public officials". There is widely held belief that electing judges and police reduces efficiency of law enforcement, and as for electing dog catchers...........

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RT@tulsathit: A glimpse of Bkk results: A count in Chatuchak shows 67 votes for PT and 48 abstentions. via @chavarong

It would seem that 48 out of 114 of those people went to vote no.

A no vote is saying I don't want you Yingluck.

Forget about the small parties they would all be on their knees begging for scraps from whoever wins.

The ones likely to win a seat are the ones who went into coalition with PT last time and who voted for the amnesty bill.

How did Chatuchak vote in the last elections? Was it a red seat? If not, unsurprisingly that they would vote for PT this time round.

What is more telling is that these 48 people also does not believe in Suthep's People's Council either. A NO vote is saying, I don't want you YL. At the same time, it is also telling the same to Suthep.

A NO vote is saying, I don't want you YL. At the same time, it is also telling the same to Suthep.

It was 48 abstentions, not 48 no votes there is a difference, an abstention from voting was Sutheps aim was it not?

Oh I see, I actually overlooked the report that there were 48 abstentions. I was too quick to jump on Robby's (your side by the way) assertion that there were 48 NO votes, rather than 48 abstentions.

So the actual fact (according to you) is that there were 67 + 48 = 115 registered voters in Chatuchak. Of these 67 voted for PT and the remaining 48 did not go to vote. I don't know about you but it seems a waste to have a poling station for just 115 voters.

Care to spout anymore rubbish / nonsense? (I'm an adult, I don't need to resort to childish icons to make my point).

If your an adult try behaving like one.

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Take a look at the box, its full of Orange slips.......... everyone had been told the wrong one it seems.

Exactly! It was the right box - only the box label was wrong :)

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The Thai people have gone out in their millions to vote today. They've gone not knowing how much harassment, intimidation and violence they would face. They have broken down gates locked by the anti-democrat supporters

The message that you and your Suthep thugs need to understand is that ordinary Thai people will not have their basic human rights trampled over. They have spoken

I had a friend take his wife to vote in Bangkok today. No protesters, but the polling place was empty. Nobody was voting.

As reported by the Post a few days ago, a majority of the people in Bangkok favored a delay in the polls. Democracy isn't just about voting. There's a lot more to it.

One of my friend bring all family at Picnic Day (sigh), all my wife relatives went to vote in Bangkok (and some of them failed because the booth was closed due to not distributed ballots).

Bangkok is not all Thailand. Phuket is not all Thailand, Nakhon Si Thammarat is not all Thailand.

The majority of country had the chance to exercise their right to vote. FACT

That majority of people in Bangkok favored a delay in the polls is just your idea or speculation, not a fact. A poll (especially Thai polls) can give an idea of the situation, but not the unequivocal truth.

Let's stick to facts, please.

I can't post the link, but you can search the post's website and you'll find an article on: Less than 45% say they will vote. It's there, but we can't provide a link here. It was on January 24th. Facts according to the pollsters anyway.
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The Thai EC said it's over, run it again. They all resigned and walked away from their paychecks. After the count is announced, the Thais will start this all over again, and again, The definition of insanity is to keep repeating the same thing over again expecting different results.

The Thaksin cronies will have it their way again and again, with their infinite RESET BUTTON approach... Book it...

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What a joke. A sick joke, but a joke. You call that successful elections? The will be annulled within a month and everyone knows it, except for a few wishful thinkers. rolleyes.gif

89% of voters are wishful thinkers?

Come on, these people were more than wishful thinkers.

There is a difference between 89% of the polling stations open, and 89% of voters wanting to cast a vote.

So far I have seen no mention of the latter.

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If the anti-govt protestors are effective in halting voting in the Southern provinces for 6 months then I read this will go to the Senate and they are pro Suthep (Yellow- Dem) thus Suthep's policy of keep going will mean no coup and HE actually wins> Am I right in this???

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