Arrest in Kwanchai shooting

[BigMountain]

Forgot to include he was Mr. Matuemang 39, from Narathiwat , that was part of his statements to the police and that he did a re-enactment of the shooting from the back of a pickup truck covered by a blue trap and the other two Sargent's gave him and the other Sgt, the OK to shoot.They had cased the victim movements to decide the best time to shoot him!Cheers

So it was all a big trap involving 2 policemen.

That's more conceivable.

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Wrong!! Not policeman, active duty Army Sargent's serving in the south! Came all the way up from the deep south to do a hit in the North, a contract shooting!

Cheers

I was quoting from your original post. Are you changing your story?

Army? Where is the evidence of this?

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Its reported in the other paper

[Melyn]

Forgot to include he was Mr. Matuemang 39, from Narathiwat , that was part of his statements to the police and that he did a re-enactment of the shooting from the back of a pickup truck covered by a blue trap and the other two Sargent's gave him and the other Sgt, the OK to shoot.They had cased the victim movements to decide the best time to shoot him!Cheers

So it was all a big trap involving 2 policemen.

That's more conceivable.

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Wrong!! Not policeman, active duty Army Sargent's serving in the south! Came all the way up from the deep south to do a hit in the North, a contract shooting!

Cheers

I was quoting from your original post. Are you changing your story?

Army? Where is the evidence of this?

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Its reported in the other paper

The online (application) article makes no reference to the army.

Is there something else?

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[kikoman]

Two articles on this in the other newspaper and there are discrepancies between them not to say with this story.

In one article the suspect admits his part and the story goes on to describe the shooting and how Kwanchai was hit many times whereas the second article says he was hit twice which was the original report.

In both articles there are claims of a ' respected elder ' but Udon police would not elaborate but it was suggested the motive may be a business dispute but above they say it may be political.

I suppose Chalerm is the only one who will know the complete truth.

It could be asked when will the BIB learn they are better to say nothing until completely sure of the facts but we know the answer to that ?

The police know the full story, but because it does not point the finger of suspicion to the government opponents, they will not disclose it.

Strange how the police can catch all people committing offenses against red shirt terrorists, yet can never find the attackers of now around 45 incidents against protesters.. hmmmmmmm.

It took the protest guards to do that and one turned out to be a cop.... hmmmmmmm.

You mean the cop that was on duty monitoring the situation, that was almost beaten to death by the protesters even though he hadn't done anything.

Another lie from Rich Teacher:

almost beaten to death by the protesters even though he hadn't done anything.

Done anything except shooting two people, one in the abdomen and one in the leg.

Wrong! Rich teachers account is closer to the truth than yours!

The video documents that the man shot in the leg was a result of self defense as the policeman was being brutally beaten, now post documentation of the person you say was shot in the gut, as I follow these cases very close and no one showed at any medical facility for treatment of a gun shot wound in the abdomen!

So if you can not post that persons name, I would say Rich Teacher gets a passing grade and you failed as you did not document your allegation!

Peace

Edited February 9, 2014 by kikoman

[bigbamboo]

Quit complaining. At least the police caught somebody so that's an improvement on their performance in the war on the dugs when there were over 2500 murders and they didn't get catch anyone.

[kikoman]

Forgot to include he was Mr. Matuemang 39, from Narathiwat , that was part of his statements to the police and that he did a re-enactment of the shooting from the back of a pickup truck covered by a blue trap and the other two Sargent's gave him and the other Sgt, the OK to shoot.They had cased the victim movements to decide the best time to shoot him!Cheers

So it was all a big trap involving 2 policemen.

That's more conceivable.

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Wrong!! Not policeman, active duty Army Sargent's serving in the south! Came all the way up from the deep south to do a hit in the North, a contract shooting!

Cheers

I was quoting from your original post. Are you changing your story?

Army? Where is the evidence of this?

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Its reported in the other paper

The online (application) article makes no reference to the army.

Is there something else?

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This mornings issue of BP newspaper front page!

Peace

[Mackie]

At least the police caught somebody so that's an improvement on their performance in the war on the dugs when there were over 2500 murders and they didn't get catch anyone.

You mean they didn't frame anyone? That's more likely. Professional assassins all over the world carry their weapons and whistles with them on a regular basis and just wait for the police to stop them somewhere and arrest them without a fight. It's normal practice.

[pipkins]

Quit complaining. At least the police caught somebody so that's an improvement on their performance in the war on the dugs when there were over 2500 murders and they didn't get catch anyone.

I'm so interested to here you flesh out your drug killings nonsense.

Espescially the statistics bit. I've read virtually everything on it, inc. the outside analysis of the figures.

Go on. You and your buddies quote this on every thread. Post me your facts and statistics and I'll show you the real ones, and also show you and your buddies that you know squat and are regurgitating garbage you have heard from a friend of a friend in a bar....

Lets have your full version then please. We seen at least 3 people trot this out this morning on here (all with different stats as well I note)

Meanwhile OT (which the war on drugs isn't)

The police will know full well now who ordered this and they'll be making politial capital out of it or looking to extract money.

Well done the Police again They have caught quite a few this week. Once they stray from the Asoke Pen, the sheep are subject to the laws of the land again!!

Such as they are

[bigbamboo]

Quit complaining. At least the police caught somebody so that's an improvement on their performance in the war on the dugs when there were over 2500 murders and they didn't get catch anyone.

I'm so interested to here you flesh out your drug killings nonsense.

Espescially the statistics bit. I've read virtually everything on it, inc. the outside analysis of the figures.

Go on. You and your buddies quote this on every thread. Post me your facts and statistics and I'll show you the real ones, and also show you and your buddies that you know squat and are regurgitating garbage you have heard from a friend of a friend in a bar....

Lets have your full version then please. We seen at least 3 people trot this out this morning on here (all with different stats as well I note)

Meanwhile OT (which the war on drugs isn't)

The police will know full well now who ordered this and they'll be making politial capital out of it or looking to extract money.

Well done the Police again They have caught quite a few this week. Once they stray from the Asoke Pen, the sheep are subject to the laws of the land again!!

Such as they are

Well if you are as well informed as you say you are then why not share your inside knowledge with the rest of us...... unless it's a secret of course.

[Siripon]

Kwanchai must be feeling very depressed today, to think the great chieftain of northern Issan, a man respected and admired from the hills of Loei to the sandy river banks of Ban Paeng is only worth 8000 baht.

That's the price on one tonne of rice on the world market, why didn't the gunman demand a tonne of rice in the rice mortgage scheme, at least he would have got 15,000 baht-oh,I forgot the government have no money.

One of the Pheua Thai MPs from Udon believes the shooting was a business conflict, let's see h8w this pans out.

It's certainly very hard to see how someone would come all the way from Naritiwat to Udon for 8000 baht.

[pipkins]

Quit complaining. At least the police caught somebody so that's an improvement on their performance in the war on the dugs when there were over 2500 murders and they didn't get catch anyone.

I'm so interested to here you flesh out your drug killings nonsense.

Espescially the statistics bit. I've read virtually everything on it, inc. the outside analysis of the figures.

Go on. You and your buddies quote this on every thread. Post me your facts and statistics and I'll show you the real ones, and also show you and your buddies that you know squat and are regurgitating garbage you have heard from a friend of a friend in a bar....

Lets have your full version then please. We seen at least 3 people trot this out this morning on here (all with different stats as well I note)

Meanwhile OT (which the war on drugs isn't)

The police will know full well now who ordered this and they'll be making politial capital out of it or looking to extract money.

Well done the Police again They have caught quite a few this week. Once they stray from the Asoke Pen, the sheep are subject to the laws of the land again!!

Such as they are

Well if you are as well informed as you say you are then why not share your inside knowledge with the rest of us...... unless it's a secret of course.

So thats a "none of us know" Well done guys!!!

[icommunity]

Quit complaining. At least the police caught somebody so that's an improvement on their performance in the war on the dugs when there were over 2500 murders and they didn't get catch anyone.

I'm so interested to here you flesh out your drug killings nonsense.

Espescially the statistics bit. I've read virtually everything on it, inc. the outside analysis of the figures.

Go on. You and your buddies quote this on every thread. Post me your facts and statistics and I'll show you the real ones, and also show you and your buddies that you know squat and are regurgitating garbage you have heard from a friend of a friend in a bar....

Lets have your full version then please. We seen at least 3 people trot this out this morning on here (all with different stats as well I note)

Meanwhile OT (which the war on drugs isn't)

The police will know full well now who ordered this and they'll be making politial capital out of it or looking to extract money.

Well done the Police again They have caught quite a few this week. Once they stray from the Asoke Pen, the sheep are subject to the laws of the land again!!

Such as they are

Well if you are as well informed as you say you are then why not share your inside knowledge with the rest of us...... unless it's a secret of course.

The inside secret is they were allegations. Two probes conducted proved there was no extra-judicial killings. If you have new evidence, would be happy to know.

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[Bluespunk]

Quit complaining. At least the police caught somebody so that's an improvement on their performance in the war on the dugs when there were over 2500 murders and they didn't get catch anyone.

I'm so interested to here you flesh out your drug killings nonsense.

Espescially the statistics bit. I've read virtually everything on it, inc. the outside analysis of the figures.

Go on. You and your buddies quote this on every thread. Post me your facts and statistics and I'll show you the real ones, and also show you and your buddies that you know squat and are regurgitating garbage you have heard from a friend of a friend in a bar....

Lets have your full version then please. We seen at least 3 people trot this out this morning on here (all with different stats as well I note)

Meanwhile OT (which the war on drugs isn't)

The police will know full well now who ordered this and they'll be making politial capital out of it or looking to extract money.

Well done the Police again They have caught quite a few this week. Once they stray from the Asoke Pen, the sheep are subject to the laws of the land again!!

Such as they are

Well if you are as well informed as you say you are then why not share your inside knowledge with the rest of us...... unless it's a secret of course.

The inside secret is they were allegations. Two probes conducted proved there was no extra-judicial killings. If you have new evidence, would be happy to know.

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No extra judicial killings convictions, true. They still happened though. Edited February 9, 2014 by Bluespunk

[icommunity]

Quit complaining. At least the police caught somebody so that's an improvement on their performance in the war on the dugs when there were over 2500 murders and they didn't get catch anyone.

I'm so interested to here you flesh out your drug killings nonsense.

Espescially the statistics bit. I've read virtually everything on it, inc. the outside analysis of the figures.

Go on. You and your buddies quote this on every thread. Post me your facts and statistics and I'll show you the real ones, and also show you and your buddies that you know squat and are regurgitating garbage you have heard from a friend of a friend in a bar....

Lets have your full version then please. We seen at least 3 people trot this out this morning on here (all with different stats as well I note)

Meanwhile OT (which the war on drugs isn't)

The police will know full well now who ordered this and they'll be making politial capital out of it or looking to extract money.

Well done the Police again They have caught quite a few this week. Once they stray from the Asoke Pen, the sheep are subject to the laws of the land again!!

Such as they are

Well if you are as well informed as you say you are then why not share your inside knowledge with the rest of us...... unless it's a secret of course.

The inside secret is they were allegations. Two probes conducted proved there was no extra-judicial killings. If you have new evidence, would be happy to know.

Send from my Mobile

No extra judicial killings convictions, true. They still happened though.

So you have evidence? Give them to the dem or any hater or fearer of Thaksin. Will sure nail him .

Send from my Mobile

[Bluespunk]

Quit complaining. At least the police caught somebody so that's an improvement on their performance in the war on the dugs when there were over 2500 murders and they didn't get catch anyone.

I'm so interested to here you flesh out your drug killings nonsense.

Espescially the statistics bit. I've read virtually everything on it, inc. the outside analysis of the figures.

Go on. You and your buddies quote this on every thread. Post me your facts and statistics and I'll show you the real ones, and also show you and your buddies that you know squat and are regurgitating garbage you have heard from a friend of a friend in a bar....

Lets have your full version then please. We seen at least 3 people trot this out this morning on here (all with different stats as well I note)

Meanwhile OT (which the war on drugs isn't)

The police will know full well now who ordered this and they'll be making politial capital out of it or looking to extract money.

Well done the Police again They have caught quite a few this week. Once they stray from the Asoke Pen, the sheep are subject to the laws of the land again!!

Such as they are

Well if you are as well informed as you say you are then why not share your inside knowledge with the rest of us...... unless it's a secret of course.

The inside secret is they were allegations. Two probes conducted proved there was no extra-judicial killings. If you have new evidence, would be happy to know.

Send from my Mobile

No extra judicial killings convictions, true. They still happened though.

So you have evidence? Give them to the dem or any hater or fearer of Thaksin. Will sure nail him .

Send from my Mobile

Personally speaking, no I don't, but then again with so many neutral human rights organisations reports, carried out on the basis of getting to the truth, available I don't need to carry out an investigation.

I have read some of them though.

Edited February 9, 2014 by Bluespunk

[AleG]

You mean the cop that was on duty monitoring the situation, that was almost beaten to death by the protesters even though he hadn't done anything.

Another lie from Rich Teacher:

almost beaten to death by the protesters even though he hadn't done anything.

Done anything except shooting two people, one in the abdomen and one in the leg.

Wrong! Rich teachers account is closer to the truth than yours!

The video documents that the man shot in the leg was a result of self defense as the policeman was being brutally beaten, now post documentation of the person you say was shot in the gut, as I follow these cases very close and no one showed at any medical facility for treatment of a gun shot wound in the abdomen!

So if you can not post that persons name, I would say Rich Teacher gets a passing grade and you failed as you did not document your allegation!

Peace

The person shot in the abdomen was Putthichai Wipa and it happened before the other protestor was shot in the leg and the policeman beating:

PDRC man was shot in the abdomen while the alleged gunman was apprehended by a group of protesters, and seized several items as evidence from him.

However, Sutthisan police chief Pol Col Samroeng Suanthong and his investigators rushed to collect evidence at the crime scene and said police had not determined whether the alleged gunman was a police officer in disguise.

The gunman had to be taken to Rajavithi Hospital after being attacked by angry protesters, while injured protester, Putthichai Wipa, 32, was admitted to an intensive care unit at Ramathibodi Hospital for surgery.

Later Pol Maj Gen Adul Narongsak, deputy commissioner of the Metropolitan Police Bureau, held a press conference and said the injured man beaten by protesters was identified as Pol Snr Sgt Maj Kongpetch Petchkanha, a police investigator from Metropolitan Police Division 2, who had been assigned to take photos of the protest.

Ramathibodi Hospital director Surasak Leelaudomlipi said Mr Putthichai had been shot in the middle of his abdomen and the bullet exited via his back.

This information was presented in this thread, where you and Rich Teacher participated.

I assume now you are going to chastise Rich Teacher for passing false information, right?

[Lite Beer]

Police know all suspects in Kwanchai’s assassination team

BANGKOK: -- The police said the team of gunmen responsible for the shooting of hardcore redshirt leader Kwanchai Praipana consisted of seven persons.

They will seek court permission to arrest three of them today.

Arrested is a defense volunteer in Narathiwat province, identified as Maduemeng Masae.

Maduemeng was yesterday escorted to reenact the shooting of Kwanchai in UdonThani province under heavy security guards.

He later confessed to join the team of seven persons to kill Kwanchai upon request by a well-respected senior and was paid 8,000 baht.

Although identities of the other suspects in the assassination team will be kept confidential, there was report that among them are soldiers at an army camp in Kanchanaburi province.

Warrants are being sought from the court to arrest three of them today,

Meanwhile the metropolitan police said they also know the identity of a gunman who in the social media called him ‘popcorn gunman’ when he was seen covering the gun barrel of his folding AK 47 assault rifle with popcorn bag while helping anti government protesters to counter gunfire by redshirt supporters of the government at Laksi intersection.

Police said he is not uniformed personnel but a former vocational student.
Warrant will be sought from the Criminal Court to arrest three other suspects today.

Opposition Democrat party spokesman Chavanont Komalyasut questioned the performance of the police in Kwanchai murdet case and in anti government protest leader Suthin Tarathin case in Bang Na which has no progress though the leader was killed on January 26.

He asked the police chief if the police were biased in treating the two cases. He said in Kwanchai case, police have no clear video footages of the gunmen, while in Suthin case, video footages showed clearly of the perpetrators but the police could not yet arrest them.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/police-know-suspects-kwanchais-assassination-team/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=police-know-suspects-kwanchais-assassination-team

-- Thai PBS 2014-02-09

[than]

It's very interesting to see that Thai police investigation had two speed,

When Red shirt are victims, investigation conclude quickly

When Yellow shirt, civilian, forces, or PRDC are victims no result........

For remember no one has been arrest for grenade ang gun assault again PAD in 2008,

no one has been arrest after murder of Gen. ROMKLAO

no one has been arrest after grenade launched against people who not agree with UDD protester in 2010

no one has been arrest follow the different attack in Bangkok during last months............

[bigbamboo]

Quit complaining. At least the police caught somebody so that's an improvement on their performance in the war on the dugs when there were over 2500 murders and they didn't get catch anyone.

I'm so interested to here you flesh out your drug killings nonsense.

Espescially the statistics bit. I've read virtually everything on it, inc. the outside analysis of the figures.

Go on. You and your buddies quote this on every thread. Post me your facts and statistics and I'll show you the real ones, and also show you and your buddies that you know squat and are regurgitating garbage you have heard from a friend of a friend in a bar....

Lets have your full version then please. We seen at least 3 people trot this out this morning on here (all with different stats as well I note)

Meanwhile OT (which the war on drugs isn't)

The police will know full well now who ordered this and they'll be making politial capital out of it or looking to extract money.

Well done the Police again They have caught quite a few this week. Once they stray from the Asoke Pen, the sheep are subject to the laws of the land again!!

Such as they are

Well if you are as well informed as you say you are then why not share your inside knowledge with the rest of us...... unless it's a secret of course.

So thats a "none of us know" Well done guys!!!

Pipkins, you should be a politician! It's an accepted fact within most circles in Thailand and worldwide that there were in the region of 2500 murders during the war on drugs but who was responsible for this mass killing spree is open to speculation as explanations vary from the police being given 'quotas' to fulfill to the drug dealers turning on each other in mutually assured destruction. And I guess we shall never know as police investigations (or probes if you prefer) into the murders weren't able to find anyone guilty of anything.

[kikoman]

AleG'

Wrong! I saw nothing on that thread that tied another shooting into the police beating incident, But if you have the official police report or a factual finding posted in one of the English language daily newspapers, post your source.

All I remember of that thread was that a bystanders account of what happened, was that a group of PDRC supporters surrounded the man that turned out to be a police officer, and demanded to inspect his backpack and he refused, and he was attacked during the attack a shot was fired. The police release I read stated the shooting in the incident was a act of self defense, as the video documented he was under attack when the shot was fired,

I also read the PDRC supporters allegations of a shooting prior to the attack but as far as I know no other shooting was tied to the police beating incident.

If anyone has the official police release or an Nation or BP article about the relevant findings in the Police beating incident and any information that led to it ,please post those sources!

I have seen to many yellows that have misrepresented the truth, I need to see the documentation!!

Cheers

[pedro01]

Quit complaining. At least the police caught somebody so that's an improvement on their performance in the war on the dugs when there were over 2500 murders and they didn't get catch anyone.

I'm so interested to here you flesh out your drug killings nonsense.

Espescially the statistics bit. I've read virtually everything on it, inc. the outside analysis of the figures.

Go on. You and your buddies quote this on every thread. Post me your facts and statistics and I'll show you the real ones, and also show you and your buddies that you know squat and are regurgitating garbage you have heard from a friend of a friend in a bar....

Lets have your full version then please. We seen at least 3 people trot this out this morning on here (all with different stats as well I note)

Meanwhile OT (which the war on drugs isn't)

The police will know full well now who ordered this and they'll be making politial capital out of it or looking to extract money.

Well done the Police again They have caught quite a few this week. Once they stray from the Asoke Pen, the sheep are subject to the laws of the land again!!

Such as they are

Well if you are as well informed as you say you are then why not share your inside knowledge with the rest of us...... unless it's a secret of course.

The inside secret is they were allegations. Two probes conducted proved there was no extra-judicial killings. If you have new evidence, would be happy to know.

Send from my Mobile

Well, i personally knew one of the victims.

I guess i should go back to sending him birthday cards seeing as he is actually still alive according to you.

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[icommunity]

Quit complaining. At least the police caught somebody so that's an improvement on their performance in the war on the dugs when there were over 2500 murders and they didn't get catch anyone.

I'm so interested to here you flesh out your drug killings nonsense.

Espescially the statistics bit. I've read virtually everything on it, inc. the outside analysis of the figures.

Go on. You and your buddies quote this on every thread. Post me your facts and statistics and I'll show you the real ones, and also show you and your buddies that you know squat and are regurgitating garbage you have heard from a friend of a friend in a bar....

Lets have your full version then please. We seen at least 3 people trot this out this morning on here (all with different stats as well I note)

Meanwhile OT (which the war on drugs isn't)

The police will know full well now who ordered this and they'll be making politial capital out of it or looking to extract money.

Well done the Police again They have caught quite a few this week. Once they stray from the Asoke Pen, the sheep are subject to the laws of the land again!!

Such as they are

Well if you are as well informed as you say you are then why not share your inside knowledge with the rest of us...... unless it's a secret of course.

The inside secret is they were allegations. Two probes conducted proved there was no extra-judicial killings. If you have new evidence, would be happy to know.

Send from my Mobile

No extra judicial killings convictions, true. They still happened though.

So you have evidence? Give them to the dem or any hater or fearer of Thaksin. Will sure nail him .

Send from my Mobile

Personally speaking, no I don't, but then again with so many neutral human rights organisations reports, carried out on the basis of getting to the truth, available I don't need to carry out an investigation.

I have read some of them though.

Why didn't they take legal action again him? Why haters and fearers did not use all those reports to nail him?????

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[kikoman]

It's very interesting to see that Thai police investigation had two speed,

When Red shirt are victims, investigation conclude quickly

When Yellow shirt, civilian, forces, or PRDC are victims no result........

For remember no one has been arrest for grenade ang gun assault again PAD in 2008,

no one has been arrest after murder of Gen. ROMKLAO

no one has been arrest after grenade launched against people who not agree with UDD protester in 2010

no one has been arrest follow the different attack in Bangkok during last months............

You must accept the facts that the PDRC did not allow the police to inspect the crime scene until days after the shooting and the Crime scene was contaminated by all the PDRC walking all over it, they also refused to let the police inspect the "weapons cache" they found, that turned out to be BB-guns.

The PDRC can not have it both ways to block the police from inspecting crime scenes and then complaining about the police not arresting anyone!

Cheers

[Bluespunk]

Quit complaining. At least the police caught somebody so that's an improvement on their performance in the war on the dugs when there were over 2500 murders and they didn't get catch anyone.

I'm so interested to here you flesh out your drug killings nonsense.

Espescially the statistics bit. I've read virtually everything on it, inc. the outside analysis of the figures.

Go on. You and your buddies quote this on every thread. Post me your facts and statistics and I'll show you the real ones, and also show you and your buddies that you know squat and are regurgitating garbage you have heard from a friend of a friend in a bar....

Lets have your full version then please. We seen at least 3 people trot this out this morning on here (all with different stats as well I note)

Meanwhile OT (which the war on drugs isn't)

The police will know full well now who ordered this and they'll be making politial capital out of it or looking to extract money.

Well done the Police again They have caught quite a few this week. Once they stray from the Asoke Pen, the sheep are subject to the laws of the land again!!

Such as they are

Well if you are as well informed as you say you are then why not share your inside knowledge with the rest of us...... unless it's a secret of course.

The inside secret is they were allegations. Two probes conducted proved there was no extra-judicial killings. If you have new evidence, would be happy to know.

Send from my Mobile

No extra judicial killings convictions, true. They still happened though.

So you have evidence? Give them to the dem or any hater or fearer of Thaksin. Will sure nail him .

Send from my Mobile

Personally speaking, no I don't, but then again with so many neutral human rights organisations reports, carried out on the basis of getting to the truth, available I don't need to carry out an investigation.

I have read some of them though.

Why didn't they take legal action again him? Why haters and fearers did not use all those reports to nail him?????

Send from my Mobile

Hmm, good question. Let's think on that shall we, let's think.

Who benefits from no convictions happening? Who benefits? Tough one.

Certainly not the families of those executed in these extra judicial killings.

Edited February 9, 2014 by Bluespunk

[Melyn]

Forgot to include he was Mr. Matuemang 39, from Narathiwat , that was part of his statements to the police and that he did a re-enactment of the shooting from the back of a pickup truck covered by a blue trap and the other two Sargent's gave him and the other Sgt, the OK to shoot.They had cased the victim movements to decide the best time to shoot him!Cheers

So it was all a big trap involving 2 policemen.

That's more conceivable.

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Wrong!! Not policeman, active duty Army Sargent's serving in the south! Came all the way up from the deep south to do a hit in the North, a contract shooting!

Cheers

I was quoting from your original post. Are you changing your story?

Army? Where is the evidence of this?

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Its reported in the other paper

The online (application) article makes no reference to the army.

Is there something else?

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This mornings issue of BP newspaper front page!

Peace

Nope.

Does it say "army"?

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[fab4]

So the provided implication being the army did it,

not that the army actually did, but this is how you

create a narrative that the leadership wants at the moment.

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Q. You know for sure that the army didn't do it - because? A.Well it's the army isn't it and it fits into your "anyone but Thaksin/PTP/UDD" narrative.

How about for once accepting that maybe, just maybe, the army did do it?

I thought it was bad enough with rivalex buying the prayuth story about the military always being the victims.

[fab4]

The online (application) article makes no reference to the army.

Is there something else?

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This mornings issue of BP newspaper front page!

Peace

Nope.

Does it say "army"?

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You're very contrary aren't you? Why don't you google Bangkok Post Kwanchai Shooting.

I'll give you a hint - the clue is in the headline, "soldiers".

[Melyn]

So the provided implication being the army did it,

not that the army actually did, but this is how you

create a narrative that the leadership wants at the moment.

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Q. You know for sure that the army didn't do it - because? A.Well it's the army isn't it and it fits into your "anyone but Thaksin/PTP/UDD" narrative.

How about for once accepting that maybe, just maybe, the army did do it?

I thought it was bad enough with rivalex buying the prayuth story about the military always being the victims.

As with so many of these incidents:

Absence of police

Very few arrests

Police trying to implicate the army

So it concerns me greatly when the police work investigation attacks against PDRC have gone nowhere despite the amount of evidence in the public domain

It also concerns me that attacks against the reds have resulted in police statements about the army such as early on in the Laksi gunfight only for them to be retracted later.

It concerns me how the police are massively alligned to Thaksin and the red shirts when they should be impartial

It concerns me when the police are captured on film attacking an ambulance attending injured protesters

And it concerns me when culprits that the PDRC have caught turn out to be police

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[Spalpeen]

Far too many shootings go unresolved. Now that they've caught one of the villains I hope they find out who his paymaster was.

[AleG]

AleG'

Wrong! I saw nothing on that thread that tied another shooting into the police beating incident, But if you have the official police report or a factual finding posted in one of the English language daily newspapers, post your source.

All I remember of that thread was that a bystanders account of what happened, was that a group of PDRC supporters surrounded the man that turned out to be a police officer, and demanded to inspect his backpack and he refused, and he was attacked during the attack a shot was fired. The police release I read stated the shooting in the incident was a act of self defense, as the video documented he was under attack when the shot was fired,

I also read the PDRC supporters allegations of a shooting prior to the attack but as far as I know no other shooting was tied to the police beating incident.

If anyone has the official police release or an Nation or BP article about the relevant findings in the Police beating incident and any information that led to it ,please post those sources!

I have seen to many yellows that have misrepresented the truth, I need to see the documentation!!

Cheers

By now it's pretty clear that you are in no position to talk about other people misrepresenting the truth.

[Melyn]

Far too many shootings go unresolved. Now that they've caught one of the villains I hope they find out who his paymaster was.

We all do. But that's only half the job.

Dealing with the head of the snake is the tough bit.

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