Thai farmer leaders now vow to overthrow caretaker government

[Why ask]

Well you're on here bitching-ironically, 555.

We are free as long time expats to state our view/opinion. Some of us have resident visas/whatever.

If you're not happy sharing views and info, then just cancel your account.

I'm sorry I guess I missed the part where its sharing a view to bitch another side down. I'm not sharing a view, I wouldn't bother to have 1 in a system that doesn't want it.

If I did have 1 then I would vote for Yinluck, for the pure and simple reason that she is the only politician that has ever come close to making me do a sex wee! As my vote counts for nothing then I shall not bother.

A what? A sex wee? <deleted> is that?

The effect upon yourself counts for nothing, as you ascertain.

[SICHONSTEVE]

"All relevant ministers who they met during the talk also refused to allow them to meet the prime minister saying she has other important matter to do, Pradit said."

Gone to Tesco to buy tissues for the tears.

This is probably the defining statement that will lead to the downfall of this terrible government!!

This is like saying to someone whose husband has just died in an accident (of her causing) that "at least he won't have to put up with your incessant moaning now".

What a classic own goal in treating peoples despair as to where the next meal for the children is coming from as a minor irritant. Stupid, stupid and ignorant uncaring people!! Shame on them!!!

[MunterHunter]

I'm sorry I guess I missed the part where its sharing a view to bitch another side down. I'm not sharing a view, I wouldn't bother to have 1 in a system that doesn't want it.

If I did have 1 then I would vote for Yinluck, for the pure and simple reason that she is the only politician that has ever come close to making me do a sex wee! As my vote counts for nothing then I shall not bother.

I'm sorry, just what is "making me do a sex wee!" ??

Well Yingluck is f*cking with the country and she is taking the p*ss... is that the same thing?

[tingtongteesood]

Ok so now we have another group. Ok this is good. But the question is this. - WHO would step in to be the acting PM when she steps down????? NO ONE has said anything about this. Do you want suthep? Or how about that monk that is protesting as the acting PM?

Ah, how easily one dismisses another group which is anti-government.

Well, as the Bangkok Governor was forced to step down before registering his candidacy as lots of Pheu Thai people complaint about the unfairness, it might make sense to ask the same of our dear caretaker PM.

Whether or not I want Suthep is immaterial, he said he will not be involved in the 'peoples forum'.

BTW your suggestion of Buddha Issara as acting PM is tasteless. Monks may be activily involved in struggles for democracy, but they stay out of politics and not only because the constitution has it so.

My vote is for the Indian business man Satish, he loves the country and he has good business acumen. Give him honourary citizenship and give him the reigns, see how fast things get cleared up with him in control. ( that is if he would want to do it )

[tezzainoz]

Well I can see that the farmers when angered will be formidable folks to come a knocking.

I can see these people will have a lot more potential for violence than any student.

Waiting for the first to be shot at or smacked on the head with a baton, and it will go off big time.

The best thing for the government now is to step down or run.

Drama Queen, 50,000 hardly all the farmers, is it? , and what they going to do in Bangkok? mow everyone down with their Kubota's.

Dream on, and most farmers in the central region have been paid. No ones mobilizing anywhere in this province.

Thank you I just won 500 baht with you posting, but only just

Had a bet with another member that we would not get past the 1st page without you blowing your horrn

For a while there I thought I had lost

asked the wife where I can get my winnings to go to help these farmers

[tezzainoz]

Ok so now we have another group. Ok this is good. But the question is this. - WHO would step in to be the acting PM when she steps down????? NO ONE has said anything about this. Do you want suthep? Or how about that monk that is protesting as the acting PM?

Take my wife

of please please take my wife

[ShannonT]

Ok so now we have another group. Ok this is good. But the question is this. - WHO would step in to be the acting PM when she steps down????? NO ONE has said anything about this. Do you want suthep? Or how about that monk that is protesting as the acting PM?

Ah, how easily one dismisses another group which is anti-government.

Well, as the Bangkok Governor was forced to step down before registering his candidacy as lots of Pheu Thai people complaint about the unfairness, it might make sense to ask the same of our dear caretaker PM.

Whether or not I want Suthep is immaterial, he said he will not be involved in the 'peoples forum'.

BTW your suggestion of Buddha Issara as acting PM is tasteless. Monks may be activily involved in struggles for democracy, but they stay out of politics and not only because the constitution has it so.

My vote is for the Indian business man Satish, he loves the country and he has good business acumen. Give him honourary citizenship and give him the reigns, see how fast things get cleared up with him in control. ( that is if he would want to do it )

Nice suit for you, my friend.

[tezzainoz]

Ok so now we have another group. Ok this is good. But the question is this. - WHO would step in to be the acting PM when she steps down????? NO ONE has said anything about this. Do you want suthep? Or how about that monk that is protesting as the acting PM?

well Yingluck does not want to stand down

so how about leave her at the top

and the majority of main Mps democrats, who will refuse to let her run away from her job and duty

Then it will finally out i the openfor every one to see what she has been doing for the last few years

[Soutpeel]

Who would want to run Thailand now? It's in such a mess, almost ungovernable.

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I nominate this lady. She will be able to get things done without having to run off on trips to buy shoes and handbags. She's got style, she's got taste, she's the it girl.

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I nominate Mr Bean...

[davidmann]

as brit in thailand ,maybe there for cheap life /girls/beach /sun /food, and to get away from the british weather ,does it make a diffrence if the farmers get paid or not ,for sure all the problems are not going to help thailand ,maybe take long time to get out these problems maybe with a bit luck the thai BT will drop ,which would help my life and maybe lot more ,time will tell ,but just seems to go on and on ,little like the rain in england

[Showbags]

as brit in thailand ,maybe there for cheap life /girls/beach /sun /food, and to get away from the british weather ,does it make a diffrence if the farmers get paid or not ,for sure all the problems are not going to help thailand ,maybe take long time to get out these problems maybe with a bit luck the thai BT will drop ,which would help my life and maybe lot more ,time will tell ,but just seems to go on and on ,little like the rain in england

to them...probably yes....

[Emster23]

I don't expect the farmers to have degrees in economics, but seems if any of them would have thought through this whole program, they might have been able to conclude that it was defective from the start: buy high and sell lower (if a buyer can be found)? But they sold out, gave the reds their mandate to screw things up in new and novel ways, as opposed to the old guard, and now they are blaming the government they were so in love with? Your carriage has now turned into a pumpkin, it's time to face up to harsh reality of bonehead choices the farmers made.

Lay down with dogs and you get fleas.

[Emster23]

"Monks may be activily involved in struggles for democracy, but they stay out of politics" Uh, stop and think. Pray tell how is a "struggle for democracy" NOT politics????? This makes as much sense as some of Sutheps or Charlerms pronouncements, and that is saying something. And as I posted somewhere, rules of monastic life forbid involvement in politics. Period.

[MrSlatersParrot]

If 50,000 farmers do end up going to Bangkok, its game over.

Well, unless Suthep manages to find another way of screwing up a sure thing

Well it wasn't game over when there were 6,000,000 so keep your fingers crossed.

[delh]

Gemini81

I dunno, I still quite like Maggie Thatcher. however in 45 odd years on the planet I wouldn't bother ever choosing from 2 sides of the same coin. Have not and will not ever vote, even if I could.

I do hope that you do not join in political debates from your home then. But it hasn't stopped you debating politics in another country. What a totally ineffective position to take , if you believe in democracy. Sorry its off topic, but the current protests are allegedly about democracy.

[delh]

It is interesting that this does not include farmers from the North and North East regions, possibly because of their loyalty to the PTP, but also possibly becuase they have been paid more than in the other regions.

It would be interesting to have clear figures on which farmers have been paid and which have not.

It is the duty of a government (rather than a single party or coalition) to govern fairly and equally for all of the countries constituents, whether they voted for a political party or not.

if there is evidence that the ruling party has favoured their supporters, then this is a clear case of dereliction of duty and would be a justification for the protesters in their fight against the current administration and its replacement.

A partisan ruling party is not a democracy.

For the PTP apologists - yes, this has been a feature of Thai politics and similar charges could be levelled against previous government, but that is NOT an excuse.

I don't think a single farmer from my wife's village near Khon Kaen has been paid. They all have these certificates good for 500k, but can't cash them. It's a hard core red shirt village. Almost the entire village voted for the PTP. So no, being in "red land" and supporting the PTP doesn't seem to be helping. They are in dire straights as many took loans from shady money lenders and the loans are due. Now.

It's really sad as they are just salt of the earth farmers. And very poor.

Thanks for the insight. Your post puts the reality into perspective. I hope but fear for them. Best Regards, DH

[JeremyBowskill]

Gemini81

I dunno, I still quite like Maggie Thatcher. however in 45 odd years on the planet I wouldn't bother ever choosing from 2 sides of the same coin. Have not and will not ever vote, even if I could.

I do hope that you do not join in political debates from your home then. But it hasn't stopped you debating politics in another country. What a totally ineffective position to take , if you believe in democracy. Sorry its off topic, but the current protests are allegedly about democracy.

That's my point I do not believe in democracy, well at least not the forms we are offered. You can vote for whoever you like in whatever country you like and nothing changes, the same people control both sides anyhow and will continue to make themselves richer. If you are happy buying into this 3 card trick/game of find the lady, good luck to you and happy voting, me myself I don't want to play.

At no point have I debated Thai politics in any of my posts, the closest I came was saying "Yinluck makes me do a sex wee"!

[delh]

Gemini81

I dunno, I still quite like Maggie Thatcher. however in 45 odd years on the planet I wouldn't bother ever choosing from 2 sides of the same coin. Have not and will not ever vote, even if I could.

She was a real leader, never was nor will be another quite like her.

I just responded to some posts on selecting PM's based on their shagability. To me, brains are important too..but, different strokes for different folks!

If we could genetically use the best bits of both, well hell that might just be worth arguing about....... Suthep and wingnut, nah I don't think so.

As far as I am concerned, as you are commenting on the individuals involved, this post dicusses Thai politics. Your post #20 generalises on the subject. No doubts you will not see it the same. Therefore, lets agree to disagree shall we Jeremy?

Edited February 14, 2014 by delh

[Jonmarleesco]

So, sedition in the ranks of the loyal. What, I wonder, will the CMPO do about that?

[Thaiready]

Good, so Bangkok tax-payers do not have to subsidize those up-country poor farmers anymore. What a relief.

its the other way around.....the up-country is tired of supporting the Bangkok elites.

[ShannonT]

Good, so Bangkok tax-payers do not have to subsidize those up-country poor farmers anymore. What a relief.

its the other way around.....the up-country is tired of supporting the Bangkok elites.

Over 70% of the money in Thailand is spent in Bangkok, while Bangkok itself only generates about 6% of the total income,

Who's supporting who, Suriya4?

[SICHONSTEVE]

Good, so Bangkok tax-payers do not have to subsidize those up-country poor farmers anymore. What a relief.

its the other way around.....the up-country is tired of supporting the Bangkok elites.

In one word ABSURD!!!

Do you specialise in posting nonsense?

[Crushdepth]

"Monks may be activily involved in struggles for democracy, but they stay out of politics" Uh, stop and think. Pray tell how is a "struggle for democracy" NOT politics????? This makes as much sense as some of Sutheps or Charlerms pronouncements, and that is saying something. And as I posted somewhere, rules of monastic life forbid involvement in politics. Period.

It's up to the monks to interpret the rules governing their religion. Not for you.

[tobf16]

Who would want to run Thailand now? It's in such a mess, almost ungovernable.

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I am sure Thaksin wouldn't mind to get an invitation to do it.

Edited February 14, 2014 by tobf16

[JeremyBowskill]

Gemini81

I dunno, I still quite like Maggie Thatcher. however in 45 odd years on the planet I wouldn't bother ever choosing from 2 sides of the same coin. Have not and will not ever vote, even if I could.

She was a real leader, never was nor will be another quite like her.

I just responded to some posts on selecting PM's based on their shagability. To me, brains are important too..but, different strokes for different folks!

If we could genetically use the best bits of both, well hell that might just be worth arguing about....... Suthep and wingnut, nah I don't think so.

As far as I am concerned, as you are commenting on the individuals involved, this post dicusses Thai politics. Your post #20 generalises on the subject. No doubts you will not see it the same. Therefore, lets agree to disagree shall we Jeremy?

It generalizes on the futility about arguing about something you cannot change, same would apply to a game of football or what I had for lunch yesterday. For sure we can agree to disagree though as our views clearly differ.

[casualbiker]

Good, so Bangkok tax-payers do not have to subsidize those up-country poor farmers anymore. What a relief.

its the other way around.....the up-country is tired of supporting the Bangkok elites.

Over 70% of the money in Thailand is spent in Bangkok, while Bangkok itself only generates about 6% of the total income,

Who's supporting who, Suriya4?

When you consider that Bangkok is the seat of the government with all the ministries etc. It's hardly surprising!