What exactly does 30 day standard visa mean?

[SebD]

UK citizen traveling from UK to Thailand for Holiday.

Last time, I had to stay for 33 days so obtained a 60 day visa from Thai Embassy (as I was warned I might be refused my flight if my return ticket was beyond the standard 30 days and I had no extension visa).

Cost me £30 or so (plus the application hassles) just for an extra couple of days, though.

I want to stay for the maximum amount of time without going through all that again, so here is my question:

March has 31 days. If I arranged to land at Bangkok on 1st, can I leave on 31st or would I have to leave on 30th in order to avoid fines and/or flight refusal hassles?

Many thanks, in advance.

[PeeJay1959]

it is called a visa exemption and valid for 30 days.

Pete

[Bucko]

SebD---Day of arrival counts as the 1st day---so that makes it leave by March 30th--- Enjoy your Holiday

[Maestro]

Arriving in Thailand on 31 March without a visa (visa-exempt entry) you will receive permission to stay until 29 April.

[wayned]

If you arrive on March 1st, you will receive a "visa exempt" entry and will get permission to stay until March 30, 30 days, which counts March 1st as day 1. If you overstay the cost is 500 baht a day. You could have a problem with the Airline not allowing you to board the flight if you don't have a ticket exiting Thailand during the first 30 days. Why is getting a TV a problem, you can do it by courier and still (barely) have time and if you've waited until now to make a reservation I doubt that you will get a "cheap seat"!

[SebD]

If you arrive on March 1st, you will receive a "visa exempt" entry and will get permission to stay until March 30, 30 days, which counts March 1st as day 1. If you overstay the cost is 500 baht a day. You could have a problem with the Airline not allowing you to board the flight if you don't have a ticket exiting Thailand during the first 30 days. Why is getting a TV a problem, you can do it by courier and still (barely) have time and if you've waited until now to make a reservation I doubt that you will get a "cheap seat"!

Thanks for the answer, but are you sure?

If I arrive at, say, 12 noon on March 1st I shall have been in Thailand for one day at 12 noon on March 2nd and will have been in Thailand for 30 days at 12 noon on March 31st.

So, if I leave on March 30th, I've only been in Thailand for 29 days and however many hours (assuming I leave after 12 noon on that day. If I leave before 12 noon on the 30th, I've only been in Thailand for 28 days and however many hours).

Which is why I am asking, because I can find no definitive guidelines on the matter.

Thanks again for replying.

[SebD]

SebD---Day of arrival counts as the 1st day---so that makes it leave by March 30th--- Enjoy your Holiday

Thanks for the reply (but please see my reply to wayned, above and let me know your thoughts or knowledge).

[sustento]

If you arrive on March 1st, you will receive a "visa exempt" entry and will get permission to stay until March 30, 30 days, which counts March 1st as day 1. If you overstay the cost is 500 baht a day. You could have a problem with the Airline not allowing you to board the flight if you don't have a ticket exiting Thailand during the first 30 days. Why is getting a TV a problem, you can do it by courier and still (barely) have time and if you've waited until now to make a reservation I doubt that you will get a "cheap seat"!

Thanks for the answer, but are you sure?

If I arrive at, say, 12 noon on March 1st I shall have been in Thailand for one day at 12 noon on March 2nd and will have been in Thailand for 30 days at 12 noon on March 31st.

So, if I leave on March 30th, I've only been in Thailand for 29 days and however many hours (assuming I leave after 12 noon on that day. If I leave before 12 noon on the 30th, I've only been in Thailand for 28 days and however many hours).

Which is why I am asking, because I can find no definitive guidelines on the matter.

Thanks again for replying.

The time that you arrive isn't stamped into your passport - only the date is. If you arrive on the 1st and leave on the 2nd you've been there for 2 days regardless of how many hours you've spent there.

[SebD]

If you arrive on March 1st, you will receive a "visa exempt" entry and will get permission to stay until March 30, 30 days, which counts March 1st as day 1. If you overstay the cost is 500 baht a day. You could have a problem with the Airline not allowing you to board the flight if you don't have a ticket exiting Thailand during the first 30 days. Why is getting a TV a problem, you can do it by courier and still (barely) have time and if you've waited until now to make a reservation I doubt that you will get a "cheap seat"!

Thanks for the answer, but are you sure?

If I arrive at, say, 12 noon on March 1st I shall have been in Thailand for one day at 12 noon on March 2nd and will have been in Thailand for 30 days at 12 noon on March 31st.

So, if I leave on March 30th, I've only been in Thailand for 29 days and however many hours (assuming I leave after 12 noon on that day. If I leave before 12 noon on the 30th, I've only been in Thailand for 28 days and however many hours).

Which is why I am asking, because I can find no definitive guidelines on the matter.

Thanks again for replying.

They're not interested in the time that you arrive only the date. If you arrive on the 1st and leave on the 2nd you've been there for 2 days regardless of how many hours you've spent there..

But is that true or opinion?

Not being rude and am grateful for your reply, it's just that I'm seeking a definitive answer.

The scenario being painted is that if I arrived at, say, 1 minute to midnight on the 1st and left at 1 minute after midnight on 31st, I'll have been here 31 days when (not wishing to be pedantic) I'll actually have been here for 29 days and 2 minutes.

Which is why I'm interested to know for sure.

Thanks again.

[Maestro]

Yes, it is true. For verification, just look at the arrival stamp of your last visa-exempt entry in your passport.

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

[sustento]

If you arrive on March 1st, you will receive a "visa exempt" entry and will get permission to stay until March 30, 30 days, which counts March 1st as day 1. If you overstay the cost is 500 baht a day. You could have a problem with the Airline not allowing you to board the flight if you don't have a ticket exiting Thailand during the first 30 days. Why is getting a TV a problem, you can do it by courier and still (barely) have time and if you've waited until now to make a reservation I doubt that you will get a "cheap seat"!

Thanks for the answer, but are you sure?

If I arrive at, say, 12 noon on March 1st I shall have been in Thailand for one day at 12 noon on March 2nd and will have been in Thailand for 30 days at 12 noon on March 31st.

So, if I leave on March 30th, I've only been in Thailand for 29 days and however many hours (assuming I leave after 12 noon on that day. If I leave before 12 noon on the 30th, I've only been in Thailand for 28 days and however many hours).

Which is why I am asking, because I can find no definitive guidelines on the matter.

Thanks again for replying.

They're not interested in the time that you arrive only the date. If you arrive on the 1st and leave on the 2nd you've been there for 2 days regardless of how many hours you've spent there..

But is that true or opinion?

You've got stamps from your last trip in your passport? Look at them. There's no time stamped in there only date. They have no method of knowing at what time you arrived. They only know the date.

You've been told by loads of people what the situation is. Asking the same question over and over won't alter the answer you get.

[Bucko]

SebD---Day of arrival counts as the 1st day---so that makes it leave by March 30th--- Enjoy your Holiday

Thanks for the reply (but please see my reply to wayned, above and let me know your thoughts or knowledge).

Does'nt matter what time of day you arrive Seb---it's still counts as day 1--even if its after Midnight by 1 minute at passport control

[SebD]

Blinkin' Flip, take a chill-pill, sustento..

Maybe I'll get someone, later, who knows more than you (maybe I won't and maybe you're right but don't ever tell me to ever, ever, ever stop asking a question until a definitive answer has been provided).

Clearly, you are unable to do that.

Thanks anyway.

[beechguy]

Blinkin' Flip, take a chill-pill, sustento..

Maybe I'll get someone, later, who knows more than you (maybe I won't and maybe you're right but don't ever tell me to ever, ever, ever stop asking a question until a definitive answer has been provided).

Clearly, you are unable to do that.

Thanks anyway.

A clear definitive answer was provided, seems you just don't want to accept it.

[SebD]

Blinkin' Flip, take a chill-pill, sustento..

Maybe I'll get someone, later, who knows more than you (maybe I won't and maybe you're right but don't ever tell me to ever, ever, ever stop asking a question until a definitive answer has been provided).

Clearly, you are unable to do that.

Thanks anyway.

A clear definitive answer was provided, seems you just don't want to accept it.

If you're so sure of that, qualify it for us.

Evidence, sources etc.

(Don't worry, I don't really expect you to do so).

[sustento]

Blinkin' Flip, take a chill-pill, sustento..

Maybe I'll get someone, later, who knows more than you (maybe I won't and maybe you're right but don't ever tell me to ever, ever, ever stop asking a question until a definitive answer has been provided).

Clearly, you are unable to do that.

Thanks anyway.

Look at your passport. Inspect the stamps you got on your previous visit. Do they mention the time that you were stamped in or just the date? If they don't mention the time then how do you expect the immigration officer to calculate how many hours you have spent in Thailand on your first day of arrival? More to the point to do you really think that immigration are going to go to the trouble of calculating the number of hours each one of the 26 million tourists that visit Thailand every year has been there?

You've had your definitive answer a number of times. If you don't want to believe it then up to you.

[SebD]

Blinkin' Flip, take a chill-pill, sustento..

Maybe I'll get someone, later, who knows more than you (maybe I won't and maybe you're right but don't ever tell me to ever, ever, ever stop asking a question until a definitive answer has been provided).

Clearly, you are unable to do that.

Thanks anyway.

Look at your passport. Inspect the stamps you got on your previous visit. Do they mention the time that you were stamped in or just the date? If they don't mention the time then how do you expect the immigration officer to calculate how many hours you have spent in Thailand on your first day of arrival? More to the point to do you really think that immigration are going to go to the trouble of calculating the number of hours each one of the 26 million tourists that visit Thailand every year has been there?

You've had your definitive answer a number of times. If you don't want to believe it then up to you.

Duhhh, my airline tickets show my time of arrival.

This is so simple, if you don't know the answer to a given question just keep your sticky-beak out.

I'm not looking for opinions or anyone's given take on matters, which is all I've received...NOTHING definitive.

I'm looking for a factual and true answer to my question.

No-one, thus far has come anywhere near providing it.

Sorry if you don't like my questions.

Sorry if I don't like your "answers".

This is supposed to be a Thai Information Portal (I was kinda hoping I might get some information).

It's not a Thai "I have an opinion" portal, when a specific and answerable question has been submitted.

Now, go away and bother some other thread, please.

You clearly have nothing of value to add to this thread.

[Carib]

Blinkin' Flip, take a chill-pill, sustento..

Maybe I'll get someone, later, who knows more than you (maybe I won't and maybe you're right but don't ever tell me to ever, ever, ever stop asking a question until a definitive answer has been provided).

Clearly, you are unable to do that.

Thanks anyway.

Look at your passport. Inspect the stamps you got on your previous visit. Do they mention the time that you were stamped in or just the date? If they don't mention the time then how do you expect the immigration officer to calculate how many hours you have spent in Thailand on your first day of arrival? More to the point to do you really think that immigration are going to go to the trouble of calculating the number of hours each one of the 26 million tourists that visit Thailand every year has been there?

You've had your definitive answer a number of times. If you don't want to believe it then up to you.

Duhhh, my airline tickets show my time of arrival.

This is so simple, if you don't know the answer to a given question just keep your sticky-beak out.

I'm not looking for opinions or anyone's given take on matters, which is all I've received...NOTHING definitive.

I'm looking for a factual and true answer to my question.

No-one, thus far has come anywhere near providing it.

Sorry if you don't like my questions.

Sorry if I don't like your "answers".

This is supposed to be a Thai Information Portal (I was kinda hoping I might get some information).

It's not a Thai "I have an opinion" portal, when a specific and answerable question has been submitted.

Now, go away and bother some other thread, please.

You clearly have nothing of value to add to this thread.

All you are doing is showing contempt for the ones who gave you an answer and are trying to help you. Since you seem to know it all I wonder why you even asked the question.

[SebD]

No-one HAS answered, Carib (are you not paying attention?).

Merely opinions and viewpoints.

I could have done all that, myself.

I came here hoping for an answer.

Seems my trust in the forum was ill-founded, thus far.

You don't happen to know the answer, do you, by any chance?

[Bucko]

Blinkin' Flip, take a chill-pill, sustento..

Maybe I'll get someone, later, who knows more than you (maybe I won't and maybe you're right but don't ever tell me to ever, ever, ever stop asking a question until a definitive answer has been provided).

Clearly, you are unable to do that.

Thanks anyway.

Look at your passport. Inspect the stamps you got on your previous visit. Do they mention the time that you were stamped in or just the date? If they don't mention the time then how do you expect the immigration officer to calculate how many hours you have spent in Thailand on your first day of arrival? More to the point to do you really think that immigration are going to go to the trouble of calculating the number of hours each one of the 26 million tourists that visit Thailand every year has been there?

You've had your definitive answer a number of times. If you don't want to believe it then up to you.

Duhhh, my airline tickets show my time of arrival.

This is so simple, if you don't know the answer to a given question just keep your sticky-beak out.

I'm not looking for opinions or anyone's given take on matters, which is all I've received...NOTHING definitive.

I'm looking for a factual and true answer to my question.

No-one, thus far has come anywhere near providing it.

Sorry if you don't like my questions.

Sorry if I don't like your "answers".

This is supposed to be a Thai Information Portal (I was kinda hoping I might get some information).

It's not a Thai "I have an opinion" portal, when a specific and answerable question has been submitted.

Now, go away and bother some other thread, please.

You clearly have nothing of value to add to this thread.

Seb---Correct--

Your Airline ticket will say Time of Arrival---Your day 1 will start after passing through Passport Control---I.E----if you arrive @2330--Passport control-- your still on day 1--if you go through Passport Control after Midnight your day 1 starts

Believe me and other T.V members---we have done this many-many times --at many different times

[SebD]

Blinkin' Flip, take a chill-pill, sustento..

Maybe I'll get someone, later, who knows more than you (maybe I won't and maybe you're right but don't ever tell me to ever, ever, ever stop asking a question until a definitive answer has been provided).

Clearly, you are unable to do that.

Thanks anyway.

Look at your passport. Inspect the stamps you got on your previous visit. Do they mention the time that you were stamped in or just the date? If they don't mention the time then how do you expect the immigration officer to calculate how many hours you have spent in Thailand on your first day of arrival? More to the point to do you really think that immigration are going to go to the trouble of calculating the number of hours each one of the 26 million tourists that visit Thailand every year has been there?

You've had your definitive answer a number of times. If you don't want to believe it then up to you.

Duhhh, my airline tickets show my time of arrival.

This is so simple, if you don't know the answer to a given question just keep your sticky-beak out.

I'm not looking for opinions or anyone's given take on matters, which is all I've received...NOTHING definitive.

I'm looking for a factual and true answer to my question.

No-one, thus far has come anywhere near providing it.

Sorry if you don't like my questions.

Sorry if I don't like your "answers".

This is supposed to be a Thai Information Portal (I was kinda hoping I might get some information).

It's not a Thai "I have an opinion" portal, when a specific and answerable question has been submitted.

Now, go away and bother some other thread, please.

You clearly have nothing of value to add to this thread.

Seb---Correct--

Your Airline ticket will say Time of Arrival---Your day 1 will start after passing through Passport Control---I.E----if you arrive @2330--Passport control-- your still on day 1--if you go through Passport Control after Midnight your day 1 starts

Believe me and other T.V members---we have done this many-many times --at many different times

That looks like a pretty cool and logical possibility.

You wouldn't happen to know where I can find out if it's true (although it does make a lot of sense).

I was about to say that there MUST be some fixed official guidelines (but then I remembered TIT).

Many thanks for the input.

Appreciated.

[ubonjoe]

Day one is the day you enter for every type of entry it does not matter if it is a visa exempt entry, a visa or a re-entry permit they are all the same. I am sure there is some policy or rule that states that but finding it would be difficult.

I have two old passports with many entries to Thailand and for every one of them day one is the date I entered. I also have one entry transcribed to my new passport that is the same.

[sustento]

Blinkin' Flip, take a chill-pill, sustento..

Maybe I'll get someone, later, who knows more than you (maybe I won't and maybe you're right but don't ever tell me to ever, ever, ever stop asking a question until a definitive answer has been provided).

Clearly, you are unable to do that.

Thanks anyway.

Look at your passport. Inspect the stamps you got on your previous visit. Do they mention the time that you were stamped in or just the date? If they don't mention the time then how do you expect the immigration officer to calculate how many hours you have spent in Thailand on your first day of arrival? More to the point to do you really think that immigration are going to go to the trouble of calculating the number of hours each one of the 26 million tourists that visit Thailand every year has been there?

You've had your definitive answer a number of times. If you don't want to believe it then up to you.

Duhhh, my airline tickets show my time of arrival.

Your airline ticket shows the time that the airline you're flying with hopes to arrive in Bangkok. What if there's a big tailwind and you arrive in Bangkok at 2350 rather than 0020? What if the flight is delayed for 24 hours by mechanical failure? If you look at your ticket you'll find that flight times aren't guaranteed.

The only time the matters to Thai immigration is the time they put that stamp in your passport.

I'm sure that immigration will all have a good laugh with you when they ask for the 1000Bt fine for your two day overstay and you explain that you only spent 29 days and 56 minutes in Thailand.

BTW have you actually looked in your passport to see what the immigration stamp says?

[SebD]

Day one is the day you enter for every type of entry it does not matter if it is a visa exempt entry, a visa or a re-entry permit they are all the same. I am sure there is some policy or rule that states that but finding it would be difficult.

I have two old passports with many entries to Thailand and for every one of them day one is the date I entered. I also have one entry transcribed to my new passport that is the same.

Thanks.

Better to book my flights on the Thai logic principal (even though my 30 day's exemption becomes 29 or even 28 plus a few hours), I suppose.

Thanks also for all the helpful replies (I said the helpful ones and there weren't many, before you all start clapping yourselves on the back).

About time this forum got itself sorted and stopped the saddo's, the angry, the miserable, the rude, the antagonistic and the profoundly demented from posting their collective diatribe.

This could (should) be a good site and resource.

Shame it seems unduly overburdened with the unhappy people of this world.

Spoils it, somewhat, for the rest of us normal folk.

Thanks again for those who cared enough to offer sound and considered advice.

Shame on the rest of you.

[Lite Beer]

Plenty of members have given the answer the op was looking for so this topic is now closed.