Suthep warns red-shirt leaders of 'popcorn vendors'

[LeamchabangLarry]

The Red thuggery stopped quite abruptly after these guys started showing up. Just the facts, ma'am

you mean 'Yellow Thugs'? there has been no red presence in BKK

wake up! grab a coffee and a Newspaper that does not come from 2010 - get the colours the right way round man

Shirley you jest.

Red thugs have been coming from Pathum Thani via Koh-Tee's crazy behest until they tucked tail and ran. Suthin Tharathin was murdered by Red thugs in broad daylight.

You might want to get up off the two chairs you require to sit in the lonely corner of your guesthouse and take a look at what's been happening.

[djjamie]

ter·ror·ism noun \ˈter-ər-ˌi-zəm\

: the use of violent acts to frighten the people in an area as a way of trying to achieve a political goal

He's already admitted the popcorn shooters were PDRC.

Acts of violence to force political change is terrorism, and it is prosecutable internationally, so everyone involved in terrorism, the acts, the planning, the financing, can be imprisoned in many places around the world on terrorism charges. Companies involved in terrorism too, can be financially sanctioned, regardless of their standing in Thailand.

Furthermore, any Swiss bank accounts held by the terrorist in question can be seized. Sending a terrorist money is called materially aiding terrorists and it too carries similar sentences to the acts of terrorism.

There are many options for the prosecution of terrorism internationally, e.g. US law 779. permits the arrest, prosecution, imprisonment, seizure of assets and other penalties for terrorists and conspirators to commit terrorism, regardless of where the act of terrorism is committed.

So, dear Suthep backers, read his sloppy words here and read his previous sloppy words back on Feb 2nd. See the TV footage world wide and realize just how toxic this man is to you. You like your ski holidays and your Paris trips and Disneyland Florida, but do you like Guantanamo?

Hang on.

All you guys on here call Suthep a fascist, a thug and a liar. You don't believe a single word he says apparently. Then he stated the PDRC were popcorn shooters and all of a sudden you take his word as gospel. He is no longer a liar? What your really saying is you will use what he says to suit your agenda. You will believe what you want when it suits your agenda. He lies when it is an inconvenient truth, but tells the truth when it suits your agenda.

All this highlights is he is an honest terrorist. thaksin on the other hand is a dishonest terrorist. Might be pertinent to add at this stage is that Mandela was an honest terrorist as well.

Time to accept the will of the majority.

So you're suggesting his threats aren't credible terrorist threats because he's a liar?

Popcorn shooter is a historic fact:

And the recent evidence points to capability:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH7L48rxu0A

He can't delivery on anything positive, but PDRC shooters and bombers are the stuff of TV news.

If you can't understand what I am saying bad luck. I am not going to repeat it. Read it again.

Please - Can anyone else on this forum understand what I said? Anyone understand the gist what what I was trying to express? Anyone? Whether you agree or disagree with me, just let me know if I am getting my message across?

It seems when I speak to a pro "all principle of democracy" supporters they understand me. When I speak to a "1 principle of democracy" supporter they can't seem to grasp the fundamental context of what I am trying to convey and change the subject, go off on a tangent or simply demagogue me.

[winstonc]

The Red thuggery stopped quite abruptly after these guys started showing up. Just the facts, ma'am

you mean 'Yellow Thugs'? there has been no red presence in BKK

wake up! grab a coffee and a Newspaper that does not come from 2010 - get the colours the right way round man

Shirley you jest.

Red thugs have been coming from Pathum Thani via Koh-Tee's crazy behest until they tucked tail and ran. Suthin Tharathin was murdered by Red thugs in broad daylight.

You might want to get up off the two chairs you require to sit in the lonely corner of your guesthouse and take a look at what's been happening.

hahahahaha nice one centurian (life of brian)

[Why ask]

Does anybody know what 'popcorn' is, in Thai metaphorical speech?

[djjamie]

ter·ror·ism noun \ˈter-ər-ˌi-zəm\

: the use of violent acts to frighten the people in an area as a way of trying to achieve a political goal

He's already admitted the popcorn shooters were PDRC.

Acts of violence to force political change is terrorism, and it is prosecutable internationally, so everyone involved in terrorism, the acts, the planning, the financing, can be imprisoned in many places around the world on terrorism charges. Companies involved in terrorism too, can be financially sanctioned, regardless of their standing in Thailand.

Furthermore, any Swiss bank accounts held by the terrorist in question can be seized. Sending a terrorist money is called materially aiding terrorists and it too carries similar sentences to the acts of terrorism.

There are many options for the prosecution of terrorism internationally, e.g. US law 779. permits the arrest, prosecution, imprisonment, seizure of assets and other penalties for terrorists and conspirators to commit terrorism, regardless of where the act of terrorism is committed.

So, dear Suthep backers, read his sloppy words here and read his previous sloppy words back on Feb 2nd. See the TV footage world wide and realize just how toxic this man is to you. You like your ski holidays and your Paris trips and Disneyland Florida, but do you like Guantanamo?

Hang on.

All you guys on here call Suthep a fascist, a thug and a liar. You don't believe a single word he says apparently. Then he stated the PDRC were popcorn shooters and all of a sudden you take his word as gospel. He is no longer a liar? What your really saying is you will use what he says to suit your agenda. You will believe what you want when it suits your agenda. He lies when it is an inconvenient truth, but tells the truth when it suits your agenda.

All this highlights is he is an honest terrorist. thaksin on the other hand is a dishonest terrorist. Might be pertinent to add at this stage is that Mandela was an honest terrorist as well.

Time to accept the will of the majority.

So you're suggesting his threats aren't credible terrorist threats because he's a liar?

Popcorn shooter is a historic fact:

And the recent evidence points to capability:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH7L48rxu0A

He can't delivery on anything positive, but PDRC shooters and bombers are the stuff of TV news.

So you're suggesting his threats aren't credible terrorist threats because he's a liar?

No, you are. Read my post again.

Edited February 20, 2014 by djjamie

[Why ask]

Any arrived yet?

[dinger]

Did I miss something in translation

"Suthep indicated that the red shirts might face attacks by unknown gunmen"

Well if they are unknown then how does he know they exist and that the red shirts might face attacks from them?.

[winstonc]

When i read on another site claims by red shirts that the pdrc has a hit list of 3000 red shirts, liberals, intellectuals etc to assasinate perhaps we're beginning to see the evidence for this or the planning for it.

Suthep a new low.

mmmmmmm i read somewhere that the government was going to pay the rice farmers,,a new low for them too perhaps because thats not happened either has it...seriously i do hope you dont believe everything you read..whose a pretty boy then...

[winstonc]

Did I miss something in translation

"Suthep indicated that the red shirts might face attacks by unknown gunmen"

Well if they are unknown then how does he know they exist and that the red shirts might face attacks from them?.

unknown as in who they are..identified because no-ones been caught yet (still)...its a warning to stay away ..if their stupid enough and paid enough to want trouble hes telling them they got more than whistles..

[Khon Thai Ben Khon Dee]

"They should come because popcorn vendors have made popcorn for them," Suthep said, referring to the gunmen at the clash between the red shirts and PDRC protesters before election day. The clash saw some gunmen covering their rifles with popcorn bags.

So threatening deadly violence now then.

Yesterday it was he wanted a fist fight with Chalerm.

I suppose it's all part of his smug non-violence mantra.

A dispicable man.

[Mackie]

So let's analyse the language here. Red-shirt leaders announced that they would lead red-shirt people to confront the PDRC protesters. In another words, RED-SHIRT LEADERS ISSUED THE THREAT FIRST, and only then old fella responds with his joke and all of sudden the red troll brigade is outraged with Suthep's sense of humour. Simply unbelievable. If anyone wanted to look for the examples of blatant hypocrisy look no further than this particular thread. Not a single person condemned red shirt leaders for issuing their threat of violent confrontation which would inevitably result in loss of many innocent lives. Many of you dropped your masks of being impartial. You will recognize yourselves.

Regarding the announcement by red-shirt leaders that they would lead red-shirt people to confront the PDRC protesters, Suthep indicated that the red shirts might face attacks by unknown gunmen.

"They should come because popcorn vendors have made popcorn for them," Suthep said, referring to the gunmen at the clash between the red shirts and PDRC protesters before election day. The clash saw some gunmen covering their rifles with popcorn bags.

"Natthawut Saikuar and Jatuporn Promphan should really come … I don't know these popcorn vendors but I really love them."

Edited February 20, 2014 by Mackie

[rreddin]

ter·ror·ism noun \ˈter-ər-ˌi-zəm\

: the use of violent acts to frighten the people in an area as a way of trying to achieve a political goal

He's already admitted the popcorn shooters were PDRC.

Acts of violence to force political change is terrorism, and it is prosecutable internationally, so everyone involved in terrorism, the acts, the planning, the financing, can be imprisoned in many places around the world on terrorism charges. Companies involved in terrorism too, can be financially sanctioned, regardless of their standing in Thailand.

Furthermore, any Swiss bank accounts held by the terrorist in question can be seized. Sending a terrorist money is called materially aiding terrorists and it too carries similar sentences to the acts of terrorism.

There are many options for the prosecution of terrorism internationally, e.g. US law 779. permits the arrest, prosecution, imprisonment, seizure of assets and other penalties for terrorists and conspirators to commit terrorism, regardless of where the act of terrorism is committed.

So, dear Suthep backers, read his sloppy words here and read his previous sloppy words back on Feb 2nd. See the TV footage world wide and realize just how toxic this man is to you. You like your ski holidays and your Paris trips and Disneyland Florida, but do you like Guantanamo?

Don't be bloody tiresome. If the reds can burn down a few buildings after threatening to burn down the city and still NOT be called terrorists, this in comparison is nothing.

Oooo Guantanamo! Chalerm wannabes should lay off the booze.

Actually, at the time Abhisit publicly called them terrorists, but the "separatists" in the far south - they are insurgents according to him. That hard talking by Abhisit voided all the travel insurance policies of people visiting Bangkpk at that time.

[edwardandtubs]

"They should come because popcorn vendors have made popcorn for them," Suthep said, referring to the gunmen at the clash between the red shirts and PDRC protesters before election day. The clash saw some gunmen covering their rifles with popcorn bags.

"Natthawut Saikuar and Jatuporn Promphan should really come … I don't know these popcorn vendors but I really love them."

He loves the people who shot and paralysed an elderly man with no political affiliations. What a scumbag.

[newcomer71]

Nice joke, it just shows which kind of "man" he is.

People rant about Chalerm and ear medicines, then approve the daily s..t that this mafia boss spits out every day.

Suit yourselves... put yourselves at his level. Oh no... many of you already did that, and show it in every post.

Not differently from the "Thaksin is my idol" side as well... So no excuses for both side. Just cheering the buffoon in charge, just to feel part of something, without think with your brain and understand that the two sides are as dangerous and violent as each other.

so you think and i mean really think that the protesters were shooting people before do you ..but know right to defend themselves from utter scum..fair enough ...point taken on board.

Which part of the sentence "No excuses for both sides" you didn't understand?

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[the thrue]

Posted 58 minutes ago

the thrue, on 20 Feb 2014 - 11:29, said:

First he take away an elected goverment, then block new elections, then block the farmers from

get there money....What a mess its going to be in Bangkok....Huuuuuu. The farmers on the way in,

the redshirts on the way in...The military divided....God save thailand

blocked the farmers money ???? new and uneducated as to the real truth learn then post..it helps honest..thumbsup.gif

YES! The PDRC, Democrats have blocked the farmers money. -The EC did not allow the goverment in

caretakermood to borrow money (this rule is NOT in the law because the program was taken before and was running). The PDRC unions block the banks to borrow out money to the goverments rice scheeme...SO YES the PDRC and the democrats have BLOCKED the farmers to get there payments. The whole world know that. -But obvious not you!? -Are you not following what happens?

[englishoak]

So let's analyse the language here. Red-shirt leaders announced that they would lead red-shirt people to confront the PDRC protesters. In another words, RED-SHIRT LEADERS ISSUED THE THREAT FIRST, and only then old fella responds with his joke and all of sudden the red troll brigade is outraged with Suthep's sense of humour. Simply unbelievable. If anyone wanted to look for the examples of blatant hypocrisy look no further than this particular thread. Not a single person condemned red shirt leaders for issuing their threat of violent confrontation which would inevitably result in loss of many innocent lives. Many of you dropped your masks of being impartial. You will recognize yourselves.

Regarding the announcement by red-shirt leaders that they would lead red-shirt people to confront the PDRC protesters, Suthep indicated that the red shirts might face attacks by unknown gunmen.

"They should come because popcorn vendors have made popcorn for them," Suthep said, referring to the gunmen at the clash between the red shirts and PDRC protesters before election day. The clash saw some gunmen covering their rifles with popcorn bags.

"Natthawut Saikuar and Jatuporn Promphan should really come … I don't know these popcorn vendors but I really love them."

Mackie will you please stop with accusing everyone who reads this threat of armed violence a red supporter. So you read it different good for you, most of us dont and couldnt care less about the outcome l for whoever ends up in jail etc only that this ahole is gloating about an armed militant group that have shot people dead and alluding they will be happy to again ...and hes boasting about it ...that is not humour that is a lost the plot sicko.....nice peaceful guy ... not.

[Emptyset]

So let's analyse the language here. Red-shirt leaders announced that they would lead red-shirt people to confront the PDRC protesters. In another words, RED-SHIRT LEADERS ISSUED THE THREAT FIRST, and only then old fella responds with his joke and all of sudden the red troll brigade is outraged with Suthep's sense of humour. Simply unbelievable. If anyone wanted to look for the examples of blatant hypocrisy look no further than this particular thread. Not a single person condemned red shirt leaders for issuing their threat of violent confrontation which would inevitably result in loss of many innocent lives. Many of you dropped your masks of being impartial. You will recognize yourselves.

Where is the red shirt statement then? I haven't seen it, so I can't condemn it. Anyway, when Jatuporn told students to stay away at Ramkhamhaeng last year, saying they might get hurt if they try to block red shirts getting into the stadium (which is exactly what happened except red shirts came off worse), they came anyway. So if Suthep wants red shirts not to confront them, this kind of threat doesn't usually work. In fact, Jatuporn was roundly condemned on here for saying that, despite the fact it was a fair warning, whereas Suthep's speech is more like an invitation.

But then again, maybe Suthep does want the red shirts to confront them. I guess he assumes his group is better armed, or maybe he doesn't really mind if anyone dies since any deaths are bad for the government. And the court decision (the opposite of the decision they made in 2010 in a similar situation) which leaves the government pretty much powerless to do anything about the protesters will leave the red shirts thinking: 'well, the police can't use legitimate force, so I guess it's up to us'. So it seems most people want a clash. And further violence is inevitable. Not much to welcome about that.

[BlueNoseCodger]

"They should come because popcorn vendors have made popcorn for them," Suthep said, referring to the gunmen at the clash between the red shirts and PDRC protesters before election day. The clash saw some gunmen covering their rifles with popcorn bags.

"Natthawut Saikuar and Jatuporn Promphan should really come … I don't know these popcorn vendors but I really love them."

He loves the people who shot and paralysed an elderly man with no political affiliations. What a scumbag.

Was the man on the floor left paralyzed???

[LeamchabangLarry]

So let's analyse the language here. Red-shirt leaders announced that they would lead red-shirt people to confront the PDRC protesters. In another words, RED-SHIRT LEADERS ISSUED THE THREAT FIRST, and only then old fella responds with his joke and all of sudden the red troll brigade is outraged with Suthep's sense of humour. Simply unbelievable. If anyone wanted to look for the examples of blatant hypocrisy look no further than this particular thread. Not a single person condemned red shirt leaders for issuing their threat of violent confrontation which would inevitably result in loss of many innocent lives. Many of you dropped your masks of being impartial. You will recognize yourselves.

Where is the red shirt statement then? I haven't seen it, so I can't condemn it. Anyway, when Jatuporn told students to stay away at Ramkhamhaeng last year, saying they might get hurt if they try to block red shirts getting into the stadium (which is exactly what happened except red shirts came off worse), they came anyway. So if Suthep wants red shirts not to confront them, this kind of threat doesn't usually work. In fact, Jatuporn was roundly condemned on here for saying that, despite the fact it was a fair warning, whereas Suthep's speech is more like an invitation.

But then again, maybe Suthep does want the red shirts to confront them. I guess he assumes his group is better armed, or maybe he doesn't really mind if anyone dies since any deaths are bad for the government. And the court decision (the opposite of the decision they made in 2010 in a similar situation) which leaves the government pretty much powerless to do anything about the protesters will leave the red shirts thinking: 'well, the police can't use legitimate force, so I guess it's up to us'. So it seems most people want a clash. And further violence is inevitable. Not much to welcome about that.

Let's put it this way, there is no violence unless the Reds come around. Factual and fair?

[AleG]

I'm going to break from the mainstream in this thread and blame the police for this, the anti-government protestors have been subjected to deadly attacks with impunity, it's only natural that they take justice in their own hands leading to an escalation of violence. Thus the partiality of the police has been a main factor, IMHO, to the current situation.

Of course it's reprehensible that Suthep issues those threats, just as reprehensible as Red Shirt threats of violence against anti-government protesters. But this state of anarchy didn't happen just because, it's the responsibility of the government in general and the police in particular to maintain a State of Rights by the proper and impartial enforcement of the law. That didn't happen and now people are going to die for their failure.

[Emptyset]

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The red shirts at Lak Si probably didn't fire first according to the reports I've read, and Koh Tee had already left by the time the PDRC militants showed up. I don't think it was a good idea for the red shirts to confront Issara's group (then again, not a good idea for protesters to stop ballots being distributed either), but it seems the police had successfully defused the situation before the larger PDRC group appeared.

Anyway, I'm glad the hypocrisy has been highlighted. People are repeating exactly the same things that were said in 2010. The protesters now are repeating what the red shirts said in 2010 and the red shirts & govt are also now saying pretty much the same stuff as AV, Suthep and co were saying back then.

Edited February 21, 2014 by Scott
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[edwardandtubs]

"They should come because popcorn vendors have made popcorn for them," Suthep said, referring to the gunmen at the clash between the red shirts and PDRC protesters before election day. The clash saw some gunmen covering their rifles with popcorn bags.

"Natthawut Saikuar and Jatuporn Promphan should really come … I don't know these popcorn vendors but I really love them."

He loves the people who shot and paralysed an elderly man with no political affiliations. What a scumbag.

Was the man on the floor left paralyzed???

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Man-injured-in-crossfire-likely-paralysed-30225885.html

Man injured in crossfire 'likely paralysed'

The Nation February 3, 2014 1:00 am

THE DAUGHTERS of an elderly man wounded in the crossfire at the Lak Si intersection on Saturday said yesterday that he would likely be left paralysed after a bullet was surgically extracted from his neck.

Uengfa and Walaphorn sae-Lew, said Ar-Kaew, 71, did not belong to any political group but was just joining a pro-election rally near the intersection. "My father wants the election," they said.

The sisters called for care and assistance from authorities. Six people, including two women and Ar-Kaew, were hurt. Ar-Kaew was the only one sustaining serious gunshot wounds. Vibhavadi Hospital provided no details on the type of bullet removed from Ar-Kaew's neck.

[ramrod711]

... investors will be concerned that this nutter is now going after a non-shin company trading internationally. He and his cronies can never be trusted with the economy

As apposed to Yingluck and the rest of the PTP cabinet? None of them are allowed to take a crap without instructions from Dubai, and the last i heard they're not doing real well with the economy. Yingluck and her band of stooges are going down for the third time, and the NACC is about to throw them an anchor.

[icommunity]

Wonder what threat suthep is going to issue tonight? May be he will kill himself if police try arrest him? BTW, has Chalerm accepted the fistfight?Anyone knows?

[edwardandtubs]

"They should come because popcorn vendors have made popcorn for them," Suthep said, referring to the gunmen at the clash between the red shirts and PDRC protesters before election day. The clash saw some gunmen covering their rifles with popcorn bags.

"Natthawut Saikuar and Jatuporn Promphan should really come … I don't know these popcorn vendors but I really love them."

He loves the people who shot and paralysed an elderly man with no political affiliations. What a scumbag.

Evidence please. Otherwise you're spouting hatred and nonsense on this forum . An interesting article. Just to stop you preaching us about human values and morality.

The videos of the man shooting at pro-election people through a popcorn bag is widely available and now Suthep says he loves "these popcorn vendors". What more evidence do you need?

[BlueNoseCodger]

This picture

In Thai it says men dressed as army meets with Mayor Suthep and Corprator [that students protest group that's really just a bunch of 58 yr old PDRC people pretending to be students] at Misukwan junction.

Some sort of militia people. There were others like this.

This group were spotted on the 18th Feb at Ratchadamnun by a PDRC supporter (Source: Pantip ). Seems to be a lot of paramilitaries in PDRC now.

I've said it once and I'll say it again, what he's doing is terrorism.

Edited February 20, 2014 by BlueNoseCodger

[TVGerry]

Posted 58 minutes ago

the thrue, on 20 Feb 2014 - 11:29, said:

First he take away an elected goverment, then block new elections, then block the farmers from

get there money....What a mess its going to be in Bangkok....Huuuuuu. The farmers on the way in,

the redshirts on the way in...The military divided....God save thailand

blocked the farmers money ???? new and uneducated as to the real truth learn then post..it helps honest..thumbsup.gif

YES! The PDRC, Democrats have blocked the farmers money. -The EC did not allow the goverment in

caretakermood to borrow money (this rule is NOT in the law because the program was taken before and was running). The PDRC unions block the banks to borrow out money to the goverments rice scheeme...SO YES the PDRC and the democrats have BLOCKED the farmers to get there payments. The whole world know that. -But obvious not you!? -Are you not following what happens?

The EC did their due diligence because a CARETAKER government has limited powers in borrowing money. Especially for a failed scam.

But let's look at the loan from the GSB which was withdrawn, You're going to blame the Dems for that? Oh it's not the 30+ BILLION baht withdrawn during the one day bank run because people have no faith in this government to honor their debts and obligations?

The farmers riding in on their tractors have every right want the head of Poo. They've been made empty promises and lied to too many times and now they're out of money and out of patience. You don't screw the people who support you the most. When they turn on you, it's very uglier.

We ARE following what's happening. We're just smarter then the average red supporter who blames every failure of the government on everyone else except themselves.

[LeamchabangLarry]

This picture

In Thai it says men dressed as army meets with Mayor Suthep and Corprator [that students protest group that's really just a bunch of 58 yr old PDRC people pretending to be students] at Misukwan junction.

Some sort of militia people. There were others like this.

This group were spotted on the 18th Feb at Ratchadamnun by a PDRC supporter (Source: Pantip ). Seems to be a lot of paramilitaries in PDRC now.

I've said it once and I'll say it again, what he's doing is terrorism.

Nope. These guys are required to keep the persistent "unsolvable by the DSI" M79 attacks on the protesters from occurring all day long.

A myriad of occurrences that included pictures of perpetrators that got zero justice from the police.

Edited February 20, 2014 by LeamchabangLarry

[EyesWideOpen]

... investors will be concerned that this nutter is now going after a non-shin company trading internationally. He and his cronies can never be trusted with the economy

Nope.....According the AIS website, Shin corporation owns 40.45 percent of AIS. So looks like Singtel will just be getting a bit of blowback....

Top 10 largest shareholder as of 21 August 2013

Rank Name No. of Share (%)

1.

SHIN CORPORATION PUBLIC COMPANY LIMITED

1,202,712,000

40.45

2.

SINGTEL STRATEGIC INVESTMENTS PTE LTD. , SINGTEL INVESED BY OCBC NOMINEES

693,359,000

23.32

3.

THAI NVDR COMPANY LIMITED

187,764,116

6.32

4.

LITTLEDOWN NOMINEES LIMITED

81,844,900

2.75

[TVGerry]

This picture

In Thai it says men dressed as army meets with Mayor Suthep and Corprator [that students protest group that's really just a bunch of 58 yr old PDRC people pretending to be students] at Misukwan junction.

Some sort of militia people. There were others like this.

This group were spotted on the 18th Feb at Ratchadamnun by a PDRC supporter (Source: Pantip ). Seems to be a lot of paramilitaries in PDRC now.

I've said it once and I'll say it again, what he's doing is terrorism.

What are these pictures?

The first one where the 'meeting' is supposedly happening shows a couple of guys in army fatigues. I don't see any weapons, do you? Hell my airsoft team is better equipped then them.

As for the second picture. What's the context? They could have been militants on the side of the PRDC. Or they could also have been on the side of pro government forces.