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PT Asks Police To Protect Redshirts From Suthep

By Kaosod English.

BANGKOK: -- Deputy Spokesperson of Pheu Thai Party has urged the police to protect Redshirts supporters following a threat from the anti-government protest leader.

Mr. Suthep Thaugsuban, leader of the People′s Committee for Absolute Democracy With the King As Head of State (PCAD), yesterday delivered a speech in which he warned Redshirts that they might encounter "popcorn vendors", a euphemism for armed militants believed to be allied to PCAD movements.

"Go ahead. Come. The popcorn vendors have already prepared the popcorns for you. Don′t blame me if the vendors serve popcorns at you," Mr. Suthep was quoted as saying.

Pheu Thai Deputy Spokesperson, Mr. Anusorn Eiamsa-ad, branded Mr. Suthep′s action as provoking violence, and threatening the supporters of the other party.

He said that the statement could be implied that Mr. Suthep has acknowledged links to the "popcorn gunmen", and that he might have previously appointed the assailants to sow chaos and violence in the past.

Mr. Anusorn also questioned whether the Thaugsuban family is addicted to the use of violent force. He noted that PCAD leader had previously challenged Mr. Chalerm Yoobamrung to a fist fight, while his former party member and biological brother, Mr. Thanee Thaugsuban, had strangled another MP in a parliamentary debate.

Mr. Suthep′s another biological brother, Mr. Chane Thaugsuban, had also earned nickname from the public as ‘Chane, the chair thrower’ (เชนปาแชร์) after he propelled a chair during the meeting in the House of Representatives, Mr. Anusorn said.

The Pheu Thai deputy spokesperson then urged the peacekeeping authorities such as the police to closely observe the march of the The United Front for Democracy Against Dictatorship (UDD) on 23 February to prevent any harmful incident arising from Mr. Suthep’s threat.

In the same press conference, Mr. Anusorn also commented that Monk Buddha Issara, one of the PCAD core leaders, is acting inappropriately in his monkhood.

Monk Buddha Issara had led a group of people to SC Park hotel before demanding for compensation worth of 120,000 baht, since the hotel refused to allow PCAD protesters to check in.

“He is becoming more and more independent (Issara) [of religious authorities], and has gone beyond his status as a monk, or at least as a Buddhist”, asserted Pheu Thai Deputy Spokesperson, adding that the monk is known to have hatched violent acts with his team.

Mr. Anusorn also expressed his firm believes that Monk Buddha Issara will soon be charged with extortion for his action at SC Park Hotel.

Source: http://www.khaosod.co.th/en/view_newsonline.php?newsid=TVRNNU1qazRPREE1T1E9PQ==

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-- Khaosod English 2014-02-21

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I'm amazed that TV's usual red rabble-rousers haven't waded in to this one.... but maybe this thread is to easy, even for them.... After all, Suthep has scored more than a few own-goals with his pronouncements recently. No matter which team one feels any sympathy for his comments - challenging Chalerm to a fist fight (easy to knock his block off....it should be half-sawn off by now, if only Capt Earwax could keep his word)...and now promises of offering popcorn to his adversaries - stray well into the realms of stupidity, rivalling those of his counterpart, Capt. C.

Me thinks he should have always worn a hat in all that hot sun.....facepalm.gif

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Didnt Suthep just make s direct threat to the red shirts suggesting they may be shot at? And tjat "masked popcorn shooter" was from the Dems crowd. That was a direct threat from mr. HONORABLE Suthep.

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If you bothered your arse to watch the speeches on bluesky, you will see he is laughing while he said all these things.

Basically he was taking the piss out of the res and Chalerm. ... you know?..... mocking them. There is a difference.

I have said many things like that laughingly, doesn't make them direct threats.

Popcorn military?... almost certainly totally independent. You need to understand that most people HATE the red shirts. Nobody likes terrorists, especially government sponsored terrorists.

They come and get their asses shot up, then they have themselves to blame, but of course we all know that the march will be called off. That always do..... cowards don't come out in daylight. They tried that and look where it got them.

If anything, Suthep should applauded for giving them a warning of a very real threat that he has no control over.

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cheesy.gifcheesy.gifcheesy.gif what a ripper, the ptp want the red shirts to be protected when it is the red shirts that start all the problems. If these red idiots didnt start the warfare the protesters would not retaliate, all the violence happens when the reds become involved. Seems they have totally forgotten what happened in 2010 or conveniently let it slip their minds, you know, the streets will run with blood etc and they are still repeating it. blink.png

I think you need some medication, the red shirts started all of this?

God you sir are blind.

But never mind today has been about your hopes being again dashed and tractors driving over your dreams.

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Didnt Suthep just make s direct threat to the red shirts suggesting they may be shot at? And tjat "masked popcorn shooter" was from the Dems crowd. That was a direct threat from mr. HONORABLE Suthep.

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No that was a warning, "You may be shot at." "People may shoot at you"

A threat is ..."You will be shot at." "They will shoot at you"

Slight difference.

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I'm amazed that TV's usual red rabble-rousers haven't waded in to this one.... but maybe this thread is to easy, even for them.... After all, Suthep has scored more than a few own-goals with his pronouncements recently. No matter which team one feels any sympathy for his comments - challenging Chalerm to a fist fight (easy to knock his block off....it should be half-sawn off by now, if only Capt Earwax could keep his word)...and now promises of offering popcorn to his adversaries - stray well into the realms of stupidity, rivalling those of his counterpart, Capt. C.

Me thinks he should have always worn a hat in all that hot sun.....facepalm.gif

This has nothing to do with peaceful demonstration. There is an emergency decree restricting demonstrations to pre-defined locations. Gov't was very generous allowing all the Dems demonstration sites to remain. But specifically, the Gov't Center was specifically restricted from demonstration. So these demonstrators were illegally demonstrating AND in addition, they were restricting access.

You can demonstration but you can not restrict access to a public building.

This is an obviously another over reach by the Courts. Its more and more obvious that the courts and the NACC are in the pockets of the Dems.

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Didnt Suthep just make s direct threat to the red shirts suggesting they may be shot at? And tjat "masked popcorn shooter" was from the Dems crowd. That was a direct threat from mr. HONORABLE Suthep.

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yes and the almost complete failure of the Thai and internatinal press to report violent attacks by these so called PDRC "guards" on innocent Thai people and pro democracy sympathizers.

On the 2nd December 2013 riots by Democrat Party supporters and PDRC Blackshirts at Government House – and many other instances - violent incidents simply are not reported - on that evening (December 2nd) it seemed there was only one Western journalist present during night-time attacks which were possibly the most violent incidents instigated by the PDRC Blackshirts since the protests began and before the PDRC resorted to openly use firearms later (well documented by hundreds of journalists Thai and International)

Swedish journalist Michael Topffer, it transpires was there during these riots but he also appears to confirm that no other major international media outlet had a presence there.

That of the 5 reported deaths 4 are at the hands of the fascist PDRC “guards” and include 3 pro-democracy activists and one completely innocent 17year old burned to death in a bus.

The lack of reporting of this seems wilful and deliberate by news outlets and it is simply astonishing the Western media have failed to report this.

During the riots over the weekend of the 30th November/1st December there were a number of well-documented and very violent attacks on single pro-democracy Red Shirt activists by gangs of “PDRC Guards”on the streets of Bangkok.

These attacks included stabbings, beatings and very sinister cases of vigilantism where PDRC fanatics intimidated and threatened ordinary Red Shirts making them strip their clothing off and swear allegiance to certain persons. This is all missing from media reports.

From an email from Michael Topffer, a Bangkok-based Swedish reporter.

Quote:

“Regarding the night of Dec 2nd, I was there, covering this for my paper Expressen. As far as I know, I was the only Western reporter there. BBC was there until around 10pm, I was there until 1am. It was extremely violent. I gave a live report for our web-tv at 00:30 and had an article about the attack in the next day's paper.”

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So yes there is a good reason to call on the police to protect ordinary people on the street from these extremely violent nut cases roaming the streets of Bangkok – intimidating, robbing and terrorizing innocent citizens because they are either on the other side of the political spectrum – or for no reason at all. And if Suthep thinks it's funny to threaten people with so-called "Popcorn shooters" in reference to concealed automatic weapons - then I think he should have his head examined. I still hope his stupid provocations will be ignored by moderate people on both sides.

Let him - what according to most recent court ruling is his constitutional right - go on demonstrating indefinitely!

Who cares?? Ask the court to define exactly what it considers a "peaceful demonstration". If he and his demonstrators commit any acts of violence again - and the police is not allowed to deal with them - then hold the court responsible for their actions.

Well said, It's about time that as you suggest the courts are also held responsible!!!

"hold the court responsible for their actions."

Thank you Sweden for being the voice of reason.

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One brother who strangles a colleague and another who is an expert chair thrower, this is the professionalism of the family of this nasty imp of a man. Oh the poor fool Thais who are naively following him. Oh the poor fool Thais who are naively following the Thaksin regime as well.

The gullible Thai population can of course be forgiven for their childlike ignorance due to the culture they've been brought up in, with it's tragic education system, greng jai, biased media and general encourgement of mass-delusion as to its place in the world. No wonder they've been gulled into believing the removal of Thaksinism will really affect a corruption that has been rife on every level of this society for decades before the rise of the blood-sucking Shinawatras. But are they really that stupid to believe all this PDRC crap or are both sides simply refusing to face the truth about themselves and take responsibility for the first time in their history? For that is surely the real problem Thailand faces today, that there is nobody adult enough in this kindergarten of a country to make a proper, honest, stand for decency (and indeed, actual modernism) beyond a handful of ineffective, white t-shirt-wearing, candle-lighting (true) democrats who are being drowned out in the deafening roar of stupidity.

Even so, as this is posted here in Thaivisa by a foreigner to an audience of fellow foreigners, what pains me personally is just how much my fellow falang should bloody well know better than to be supporting either side of this pathetic performance by a (clearly) still developing country. Just because you have a wife, business or property here doesn't mean you shouldn't be ashamed of yourselves for giving dishourable buffoons like Suthep or Thaksin your support.

And one son who murders a copper, etc. etc. etc.

7 posts? Get it right!

Check new mandela for background.

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Pheu Thai Deputy Spokesperson, Mr. Anusorn Eiamsa-ad, branded Mr. Suthep′s action as provoking violence, and threatening the supporters of the other party.

He said that the statement could be implied that Mr. Suthep has acknowledged links to the "popcorn gunmen", and that he might have previously appointed the assailants to sow chaos and violence in the past.

This whizz takes from that "that the statement could be implied". News flash to the Pheu Thai deputy "that the statement could be implied" and more than likely does that these are the "popcorn gunmen" that are attacking the PCAD ranks which Suthep is sarcastically having a crack at.

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I like to put it this way.

We need courts and all independence agencies. It is the judges and officials that destroyed the independence, integrity, judicial justice, equality of these institutions. IMO, judicial reform should top the list of reform agendas. The people are losing their trust and faith in the judges and officials because they played an important role in furthering the problems of the society.

Judges and officials who did not follow justice processes should be impeached. Judges and officials who violated the rights and the office of legislators, executive branch should also be impeached.

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Didnt Suthep just make s direct threat to the red shirts suggesting they may be shot at? And tjat "masked popcorn shooter" was from the Dems crowd. That was a direct threat from mr. HONORABLE Suthep.

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yes and the almost complete failure of the Thai and internatinal press to report violent attacks by these so called PDRC "guards" on innocent Thai people and pro democracy sympathizers.

On the 2nd December 2013 riots by Democrat Party supporters and PDRC Blackshirts at Government House – and many other instances - violent incidents simply are not reported - on that evening (December 2nd) it seemed there was only one Western journalist present during night-time attacks which were possibly the most violent incidents instigated by the PDRC Blackshirts since the protests began and before the PDRC resorted to openly use firearms later (well documented by hundreds of journalists Thai and International)

Swedish journalist Michael Topffer, it transpires was there during these riots but he also appears to confirm that no other major international media outlet had a presence there.

That of the 5 reported deaths 4 are at the hands of the fascist PDRC “guards” and include 3 pro-democracy activists and one completely innocent 17year old burned to death in a bus.

The lack of reporting of this seems wilful and deliberate by news outlets and it is simply astonishing the Western media have failed to report this.

During the riots over the weekend of the 30th November/1st December there were a number of well-documented and very violent attacks on single pro-democracy Red Shirt activists by gangs of “PDRC Guards”on the streets of Bangkok.

These attacks included stabbings, beatings and very sinister cases of vigilantism where PDRC fanatics intimidated and threatened ordinary Red Shirts making them strip their clothing off and swear allegiance to certain persons. This is all missing from media reports.

From an email from Michael Topffer, a Bangkok-based Swedish reporter.

Quote:

“Regarding the night of Dec 2nd, I was there, covering this for my paper Expressen. As far as I know, I was the only Western reporter there. BBC was there until around 10pm, I was there until 1am. It was extremely violent. I gave a live report for our web-tv at 00:30 and had an article about the attack in the next day's paper.”

Unquote

So yes there is a good reason to call on the police to protect ordinary people on the street from these extremely violent nut cases roaming the streets of Bangkok – intimidating, robbing and terrorizing innocent citizens because they are either on the other side of the political spectrum – or for no reason at all. And if Suthep thinks it's funny to threaten people with so-called "Popcorn shooters" in reference to concealed automatic weapons - then I think he should have his head examined. I still hope his stupid provocations will be ignored by moderate people on both sides.

Let him - what according to most recent court ruling is his constitutional right - go on demonstrating indefinitely!

Who cares?? Ask the court to define exactly what it considers a "peaceful demonstration". If he and his demonstrators commit any acts of violence again - and the police is not allowed to deal with them - then hold the court responsible for their actions.

About bed time so I'll just correct one thing that stands up:

That of the 5 reported deaths 4 are at the hands of the fascist PDRC “guards” and include 3 pro-democracy activists and one completely innocent 17year old burned to death in a bus.

You make it sound like the evil PDRC guards intentionally immolated the young man in the bus, what actually happened was:

Your innocent 17 year old burned by PDRC guards was actually a 19 year old man that was trapped inside the bus looting when his accomplices torched it without knowing he was still inside. And by the way, there were no PDRC guards there because the clash was between Red Shirts and Ramkhamheng University students.

So you see, what you wrote is not just wrong, it is the kind of fabricated rumours that get people killed by polarizing society and promoting hatred.

hahaha are you kidding me? you are quoting "News" here with out quoting the source?

You take part of my post and you then say "what actually happened was:" as if you where there?

What was your source Coconut Bangkok ? Your source copies the "news" from another source and you try to pass it on here as the universal truth?

And you want to accuse me of spreading rumors and promoting hatred - the source I quoted by name and news paper was an eye witness - and you are quoting who again ????

It is exactly people like you - who do what you are accusing me of - quoting one very questionable source and spreading it as the universal truth here!

I have seen the images you are referring to - they prove nothing - read your own quote - it is full of contradictions -

On Dec. 1, police said Adisorn Srichanpong, 29 and a 15-year-old accomplice set fire to a bus in front of Ramkhamhaeng University near a large rally of government supporters. A third man, 19-year-old Suradet Khampaengjai, also set the fire but became trapped within the bus which was quickly engulfed in flame.

Images from a witness' camera showing three young men removing things from the bus was used to implicate the three men, according to Lt. Gen. Jarumporn Suramanee of the Royal Thai Police.

The two suspects have denied the arson charge and said Suradet died because he was unable to escape the burning bus.

I have seen the images - and removing something from a bus or torching it are two different things aren't they?

I am quoting an eyewitness from the events of 2nd of December who saw with his own eyes how violent these "peaceful" protestors have been.

Fact and my point was that these demonstrations - anywhere - will always be hijacked by violent elements - and very often with the knowledge of their leaders especially when they have a hidden agenda - who will of course never admit to it.

Fact is that these protests have never been peaceful - contrary to what the court has stated recently. Fact is that a friend of a friend was intimidated, held against his will for hours and had his motorbike stolen by these PDRC "guards".

And fact is that ordinary people need to be protected from violence even if they have a different political opinion - which is what the original post was about.

And if it is important to you that the young person was 19 and not 17 when he was burned alive - then so be it - but considering your source I would rather think that 17 was the correct age.

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