Dogs inside condo room

[Zumteufel]

Find a house. Better for your pet (and your neighbours) if you are truly an animal lover.

[ggt]

_{Have witnessed...1st hand...eviction because of keeping a dog in the condo...}

_{Best to rent a home where you can hear dogs bark all night...and cat fights waking you up after midnight...}

[Beetlejuice]

A condo is not a suitable accommodation or environment for a dog, either for small, medium or large breeds and also is considered inconsiderate to those who live in the adjoining apartments.

And how exactly did you arrive at this conclusion?

Just because your dogs like to yap, it does not mean all dogs yap.

2 Major factors regarding foreigners keeping dogs in Thailand:

Number one:

That the owner/s intend to stay in Thailand for at least 15 years, the whole of the dog`s lifetime and are secure in doing so.

Number two:

That the owner/s have adequate accommodation and amble land for the dog to roam and exercise in a secure environment without having to leave the confines of the property.

If not possible to provide any of these, than don`t consider owning a dog. Buy a hamster or a goldfish instead.

How did I arrive at this conclusion? It`s common sense and also part of being a responsible dog owner.

[whoisyourdaddy]

A condo is not a suitable accommodation or environment for a dog, either for small, medium or large breeds and also is considered inconsiderate to those who live in the adjoining apartments.

And how exactly did you arrive at this conclusion?

Just because your dogs like to yap, it does not mean all dogs yap.

2 Major factors regarding foreigners keeping dogs in Thailand:

Number one:

That the owner/s intend to stay in Thailand for at least 15 years, the whole of the dog`s lifetime and are secure in doing so.

Number two:

That the owner/s have adequate accommodation and amble land for the dog to roam and exercise in a secure environment without having to leave the confines of the property.

If not possible to provide any of these, than don`t consider owning a dog. Buy a hamster or a goldfish instead.

How did I arrive at this conclusion? It`s common sense and also part of being a responsible dog owner.

I am sorry, but this is a load of utter drivel

1. What does foreigners length of stay has to do with keeping the dog in a condo?

2. Dog does not need ample land nor secure environment, nothing but a figment of your imagination or total lack of knowledge and understanding.

Dog ONLY needs regular walks, exercise on daily basis, twice per day is ideal. Morning and Evening walks, which also happens to be toilet time.

Only people with little knowledge or understanding what dogs are would think that having a yard is sufficient for a dog and keep dogs locked up in that yard like a prison

[bangkapi]

I LOVE dogs.

I want a dog so bad.

But I live in a condo, so I can't have one.

A condo is unsuitable for keeping a dog.

End of story.

[whoisyourdaddy]

I LOVE dogs.

I want a dog so bad.

But I live in a condo, so I can't have one.

A condo is unsuitable for keeping a dog.

End of story.

Ignorance is a bliss, education is a key.

I do agree, you should not have a dog, as you do not have a clue about dogs, but there might be hope, here educate yourself.

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/apartment.htm

http://www.dog-adoption-and-training-guide.com/apartment-dogs.html

http://www.dogguide.net/10-apartment-dogs.php

http://www.pawnation.com/2013/01/28/12-dog-breeds-for-apartment-dwellers/

http://www.vetstreet.com/dogs/13-dog-breeds-ideal-for-apartments

http://www.dog-obedience-training-review.com/c/top-ten-dog-breeds-apartment

Dogs are adaptable, but some are better choices than others for life in confined quarters. Such dogs possess laid-back personalities, don’t tend to bark excessively and have low-to-moderate exercise needs

You will be surprise that there are many breeds of dogs which are suitable for apartment living. Most of these dog breeds have less grooming needs and are generally quite placid.

Most breeds of dogs which can dwell well in apartments have been adapted for an indoor lifestyle. These dogs have low energy levels and have lower exercise requirements. Not all of these dog breeds though are toy breeds. There are large dog breeds which are also suited for living in apartments or condominiums.

[wym]

People who eat meat shouldn't preach about cruelty to animals.

Unless they raise and slaughter themselves or purchase directly from those that do.

Nothing is crueler on this planet or more destructive to it, than the modern agricultural industry.

Torturing the occasional dogs pales in comparison to what you inflict by your eating habits.

[PunkRockerGuy]

Back in 2005-2009, I owned a house in Bangkruai in a L&H Development, which the concrete foundation cracked after 13 months and I was told that was normal. I being a lawyer and owning a law firm in Bkk was prepared to sue, but believe me, the evidence required to prove poor construction materials and processes in innumerable.

Anyway, I bonded with a 7-week old Golden Retriever at Pattama Farms amongst 9 female puppies within 3 mins. I paid the 7,000 baht (US price would have been 17,000 - 30,000 easily), took her home. Poddy/pee trained her in 2 days as I do with any puppy but I can tell you, she had complete run of the downstairs floor (of a large 3 bedroom house, 2 floors), but there is no way that she could get enough exercise with just 2 daily walks in the village streets ... she needed the 0.94 rai of land we had to chase imaginary birds, random squirrels, and cats from across the street whom the Thai owners did not discipline and they shit and pee'd in my yard every day and it made Goldie ever vigilant and upset.

So, yeah .. A decent-sized dog needs a property to roam and be King/Queen of, and get the real hard running exercise in. I could walk Goldie without a leash which was against L&H policies, but the security guards liked to pet her and she would not move without my command, so I was lucky ... and about air conditioning ... yup, I left the downstairs 2 units on 24 hrs/day for her comfort set at 27 C which was about 5x,xxx BTU, and my monthly electric bill there was only 5,000 - 6,000 baht. That was an ex-wife story, so right now I live in the largest of our 3 condos, but I would think of having a dog in this cramped 3 bedroom condo ... the dog would tear it apart. In fact, I'm going back to buy another GR puppy soon ... right after we sell the other 2 condos and I rehab from a deadly crash of my 2014 Ninja SX which broke both my shoulders, fractured my right leg femur right through my riding pants and fractured 7 of my fingers. I have a 24 cm screw in my thigh right now and have to use a wheelchair ... ah, such is life

PRG

[whoisyourdaddy]

Back in 2005-2009, I owned a house in Bangkruai in a L&H Development, which the concrete foundation cracked after 13 months and I was told that was normal. I being a lawyer and owning a law firm in Bkk was prepared to sue, but believe me, the evidence required to prove poor construction materials and processes in innumerable.

Anyway, I bonded with a 7-week old Golden Retriever at Pattama Farms amongst 9 female puppies within 3 mins. I paid the 7,000 baht (US price would have been 17,000 - 30,000 easily), took her home. Poddy/pee trained her in 2 days as I do with any puppy but I can tell you, she had complete run of the downstairs floor (of a large 3 bedroom house, 2 floors), but there is no way that she could get enough exercise with just 2 daily walks in the village streets ... she needed the 0.94 rai of land we had to chase imaginary birds, random squirrels, and cats from across the street whom the Thai owners did not discipline and they shit and pee'd in my yard every day and it made Goldie ever vigilant and upset.

So, yeah .. A decent-sized dog needs a property to roam and be King/Queen of, and get the real hard running exercise in. I could walk Goldie without a leash which was against L&H policies, but the security guards liked to pet her and she would not move without my command, so I was lucky ... and about air conditioning ... yup, I left the downstairs 2 units on 24 hrs/day for her comfort set at 27 C which was about 5x,xxx BTU, and my monthly electric bill there was only 5,000 - 6,000 baht. That was an ex-wife story, so right now I live in the largest of our 3 condos, but I would think of having a dog in this cramped 3 bedroom condo ... the dog would tear it apart. In fact, I'm going back to buy another GR puppy soon ... right after we sell the other 2 condos and I rehab from a deadly crash of my 2014 Ninja SX which broke both my shoulders, fractured my right leg femur right through my riding pants and fractured 7 of my fingers. I have a 24 cm screw in my thigh right now and have to use a wheelchair ... ah, such is life

PRG

Walking on leash and freedom to run are 2 different types of walks.

Morning walk is the most important one, this is when dog is full of energy, taking to the open field or beach is ideal.

MY dogs even at the age of 15, both raised all their life in an apartment, still go to the lake daily for free walk/run

Evening/afternoon walk is more of a toilet walk and does not need to be as long or as active.

Some dogs are just crazy nutters, my bullmastiff , which is suppose to be placid, lazy dog, when she was young was a non stop machine, no matter if she had 2 hour run or 3 hour run, she would still get home and keep on playing.

If one gets lucky or unlucky to get a super active dog, just walks is not enough, those dogs need toys and other entertainment to keep them occupied.

Big bones work really well, just as pair of old shoes.

Just recently, i have rescued a pup which was hit by a car, cut the story short, he is recovering but still no use of back legs.

He lives at work, inside and not able to go for walks. He is very active and needs lots of toys to keep him busy.

Today he got his new wheels, so hopefully few days of getting use to it, he will be going for walks.

To have dog, one must have yard is a myth.

Yes some breeds are more active and require more exercise and attention, but not all.

Usually the bigger the dog, the more lazy it is. Might come as a shock, but Great Danes are perfect for apartment living,

Having a yard does help to have little freedom of time, as dog able to go toilet outside, as oppose to apartment dogs, they must be taken out every single day at

the same time,

Dog ownership is a joy, but it is also very hard work, hard work over a long period of time,

[larsjohnsson]

I like the place that I stay in. No dogs and no children below 3 years old

[CzarThustraThusSpake]

A condo is not a suitable accommodation or environment for a dog, either for small, medium or large breeds and also is considered inconsiderate to those who live in the adjoining apartments.

And how exactly did you arrive at this conclusion?

Just because your dogs like to yap, it does not mean all dogs yap.

2 Major factors regarding foreigners keeping dogs in Thailand:

Number one:

That the owner/s intend to stay in Thailand for at least 15 years, the whole of the dog`s lifetime and are secure in doing so.

Number two:

That the owner/s have adequate accommodation and amble land for the dog to roam and exercise in a secure environment without having to leave the confines of the property.

If not possible to provide any of these, than don`t consider owning a dog. Buy a hamster or a goldfish instead.

How did I arrive at this conclusion? It`s common sense and also part of being a responsible dog owner.

I like this post because it shares my view that it does not seem good for the dog to be raised in one family, and then transferred to another family where there is no way to know if the dog is actually going to a responsible new owner.

I don't think dogs reallly pine after old owners if they are loved in their new environment.

Dogs should be kept safe and treated for illness, well fed and watered and exercised in a clean environment.

I love dogs but would never own one again because I will never be able to provide the 15 years of care it requires, and i am not rich enough to put the dog in my will to have it cared for after I go to dog heaven to be with my friends.

Goldfish are fine for some people, but even those I do not want to be tied to.

You are right, it is common sense that dogs should live on farms which are clean and properly managed.

Although, there are many breeds of dogs which will do very well in a condo, and probably love it there if very well treated.

My only reservation is that if there are residents who dislike animals and dogs, then it is possible that these evil people could harm the pet.

I have actually had to worry about this in the past, and you can never find peace of mind in this situation.

And even on a farm the dogs are not safe:

I recall meeting a friend whose dogs were poisoned by farmers in Okinawa because the farmers did not like the dogs digging up their veggies.

So: In a condo, if you get some nut that really hates dogs, then you and your dog would never be happy there.

And, I could never feel right about leaving Thailand and not taking my dog, if I had one. That would be beyond the pale.

(but not beyon the pail) in this case

note: I suppose that if you rescued a dog and cared for it, and you improved its circumstances, then it really would not matter where you raised it as long as it was a step up for the dog.

Rember, dogs are intelligent animals and they pick up on things like neighbors that hate them, and then they begin to snarl and bark (justifiably), which adds to the difficulties.

[Trembly]

I LOVE dogs.

I want a dog so bad.

But I live in a condo, so I can't have one.

A condo is unsuitable for keeping a dog.

End of story.

Ignorance is a bliss, education is a key.

I do agree, you should not have a dog, as you do not have a clue about dogs, but there might be hope, here educate yourself.

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/apartment.htm

http://www.dog-adoption-and-training-guide.com/apartment-dogs.html

http://www.dogguide.net/10-apartment-dogs.php

http://www.pawnation.com/2013/01/28/12-dog-breeds-for-apartment-dwellers/

http://www.vetstreet.com/dogs/13-dog-breeds-ideal-for-apartments

http://www.dog-obedience-training-review.com/c/top-ten-dog-breeds-apartment

Dogs are adaptable, but some are better choices than others for life in confined quarters. Such dogs possess laid-back personalities, don’t tend to bark excessively and have low-to-moderate exercise needs

You will be surprise that there are many breeds of dogs which are suitable for apartment living. Most of these dog breeds have less grooming needs and are generally quite placid.

Most breeds of dogs which can dwell well in apartments have been adapted for an indoor lifestyle. These dogs have low energy levels and have lower exercise requirements. Not all of these dog breeds though are toy breeds. There are large dog breeds which are also suited for living in apartments or condominiums.

But what's the point of all that if the OP can't even take his dog out of his condo without risk of penalties or even eviction?

[FritsSikkink]

Yes correct, but I doubt the condo policy can tell you what you can or can not do inside your own condo. Inside communal areas, yes no doubt they can.

So, again, Is there a law that gives the condo jurisdiction the right to force the condo owner in to their terms? They seem to believe so.

Or, is there a law that gives the condo owner the right to rule inside his own property?

It's not a law it's your condo policy.

Some larger condo allow dogs

When your dog barks the sound will be outside your condo too. Putting your dog in a bag doesn't change the rule no dogs allowed. You can't bring a gun in a bag onto a plane too.

[wym]

I like the place that I stay in. No dogs and no children below 3 years old

How do they handle the situation where an existing owner gets pregnant?

I would think the fairest would be to only sell to those providing proof of sterilization.

[wym]

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[wym]

[jacko45k]

Don't be so selfish.

[bkk_mike]

Back during the flooding in 2011, the condo building that we evacuated to temporarily suspended their no pet policy (although they did have a size limit).

A small flat isn't a good place for most dogs to live long-term, but it's OK for a little while...

[ford8]

I kept 2 chiuahas in a condo when I wasnt allowed. The building never found out. They did have signs up saying that anyone caught would first get a warning and then they would cut the water supply!!

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Like most laws here, "Seen more in the breach, than the observance"

[thailampang2012]

If you rent the condo you will have to follow what the lease contract say about pets, and the condominium rules for common areas.

If the rent contract allows you to have a pet, but the condo rules don't, you will have to carry your pet on the common areas all the times and be sure that your dog will not bark anytime.

If you owns the condo, you can have an Elephant inside it is not disturbing others.....but cannot walk the elephant on common areas or use the elevator in its company...If the condo rules do not mention pet restrictions you can have a Rhino too..even on the elevator.

[larsjohnsson]

I like the place that I stay in. No dogs and no children below 3 years old

How do they handle the situation where an existing owner gets pregnant?

I would think the fairest would be to only sell to those providing proof of sterilization.

The people moving in get a paper with the rules (in English and Thai) before signing the contract. So I would guess that if they plan to have a child or dog, they have to find a new apartment before it's time to have it

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[Eneukman]

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I like the place that I stay in. No dogs and no children below 3 years old

Where I live, the condo regulations state that pets of all kind are not allowed in the building.

When I first moved here almost 9 years ago, there weren't many young children about though that has increased in the last 2 or 3 years. Not sure how that could be enforced as some of the children were born whilst the parents were living in the building.

There used to be a problem with young children running riot and screaming in the lobby around 7.00 / 8.00 pm though in many cases their mothers worked in the shops in the condo.

Alan

[Doc46]

I kept 2 chiuahas in a condo when I wasnt allowed. The building never found out. They did have signs up saying that anyone caught would first get a warning and then they would cut the water supply!!

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5555 I can see why,them are rats ) and lived with them.

[gaucho]

A point to remember is that, via the condominium act, condo by-laws are actually legally enforceable.

good point ..also remember U MAY HAVE A SMALL DOG BUT WHAT ABOUT THE IDIOT THAT BRINGS IN A REALLY BIG AGGRESSIVE DOG ....in my condo in oz at coogee we had a fool that had ....pet rats ...u have to have a line in the sand ...

[whoisyourdaddy]

I LOVE dogs.

I want a dog so bad.

But I live in a condo, so I can't have one.

A condo is unsuitable for keeping a dog.

End of story.

Ignorance is a bliss, education is a key.

I do agree, you should not have a dog, as you do not have a clue about dogs, but there might be hope, here educate yourself.

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/apartment.htm

http://www.dog-adoption-and-training-guide.com/apartment-dogs.html

http://www.dogguide.net/10-apartment-dogs.php

http://www.pawnation.com/2013/01/28/12-dog-breeds-for-apartment-dwellers/

http://www.vetstreet.com/dogs/13-dog-breeds-ideal-for-apartments

http://www.dog-obedience-training-review.com/c/top-ten-dog-breeds-apartment

Dogs are adaptable, but some are better choices than others for life in confined quarters. Such dogs possess laid-back personalities, don’t tend to bark excessively and have low-to-moderate exercise needs

You will be surprise that there are many breeds of dogs which are suitable for apartment living. Most of these dog breeds have less grooming needs and are generally quite placid.

Most breeds of dogs which can dwell well in apartments have been adapted for an indoor lifestyle. These dogs have low energy levels and have lower exercise requirements. Not all of these dog breeds though are toy breeds. There are large dog breeds which are also suited for living in apartments or condominiums.

But what's the point of all that if the OP can't even take his dog out of his condo without risk of penalties or even eviction?

Again if there is no companionship act in Thailand and bylaws prohibit having dogs, then OP can either hide the dog in the bag/box or simply cannot have one.

But the loonies who continue to spout nonsense that dogs cannot live in unit and must have farm, really need to either read a little or do not speak at all.

[larsjohnsson]

Where I live you get two warnings. After that it's eviction

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[ford8]

quote "But the loonies who continue to spout nonsense that dogs cannot live in unit and must have farm, really need to either read a little or do not speak at all."

We really need to hear from the dogs, so have you any sources for their views on the topic ?

The "ad hominem" post suggests the author is suffering from a guilt complex, but I'm only a psychiatrist so what do I know ? I'm categorised as a loonie.

[Loles]

Why don't you move to a house? Your dog may disturb your mates in condo. And the dog has smell (you can pick up its urine). And no-one enjoy to watch your dog when it shits even you pick up the droppings.

I'm a big dog fan, I have 2 dogs and don't like at all when people press the dog to live in apartment or condo. You have to think about your dog also not only yourself.

[wisterialane]

What about a kitten? there are several strays here-they neutered 3 who now have collars and bells..If it's ok for strays to have the run of the place...I'm thinking I'll buy a kitten and when asked say it was a stray I adopted.

Why would you buy a kitten when you can adopt a stray or a rescued kitten?

Because 'strays are strayers' and difficult to train, much like humans, night straying one bar after another and sleeping until dusk, looked at rescuing and what was available were mature aged (problems).