16 injured in blast near anti-govt protest in Bangkok

[Red Snake]

A report in the nation paper says the tuk tuk driver was release - store here - http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/Tuk-tuk-driver-released-by-PDRC-guards-30227580.html

There was a number of Suthep supporters here earlier ready to hang the drive.

[djjamie]

16 minutes ago from yingluck on FB. Notice she has not even acknowledged or is not aware of the child that died in Trat. Really sympathetic and in tune with whats going on.

####I strongly condemn the use of violence in recent days that has caused many deaths both at Trat Province and especially at Rachaprasong today, which is particularly saddening and disturbing since the lives of children were lost. My deepest condolences are for the victims who are injured and to the relatives and friends of those who lost their lives. The violent incidents are terrorist acts for political gains without any regard for human lives. The government will not tolerate terrorism and has ordered a full investigation by authorities to find the culprits and bring them to justice without exception.

I would like to ask all sides of the political divide that we may see things differently and there are many ways to express those differences. But the use of violence that lead to deaths are not the civilized way of the living. It is not the way of life of Thais who are naturally considerate and empthatic to fellow citizens, rather than resort to senseless killings. I would like to again call on all sides that it is best to use peaceful means to resolve the political conflict through the democratic process.####

So that sums up 2 days of terrorist attacks. The PM sending a FB message were she can't even get her facts right about the death of a child in Trat. A DEM keyboard warrior knows more about the casualties than the leader of the country. Some leader. (I have not seen a televised sincere TV address yet??)

About 4 hours away there was a UDD "Beat the war drum" meeting of peaceful UDD supporters of which 4000 laughed, cheered and clapped in unison when they heard about the deaths of innocent protestors in Trat.

I am glad I don't support this trash.

Edited February 23, 2014 by djjamie

[brewsterbudgen]

A few months after the Red shirts were put down by the army a wave of bombing hit Bangkok with a number of injured people, I do not remember if there were any deaths. I believe after some negotiations with and concessions to what has become the PTP the bombings stopped. It does appear these bombings are geared to cause fear in the general population and cause a drop in support for Suthep and his supporters.

If these bombs are set off by government supporters then it says little about the morals of the government and the people who represent it.

Rather a big "if" there.......

[icommunity]

One thing I noticed about the pics taken in the immediate aftermath of the attack is the total lack of a police presence. This is on the street just outside Big C and is not near any stages. It's the middle of one of Bangkok's biggest shopping districts, and no police. First responders were the army and rescue crews. The police didn't show up until the army had apprehended some possible suspects.

The lack of a police presence, in light of all the terrorist activity is most disturbing. Do they not care about the security of shoppers on the busy weekend?

Just for the record...

The police are very nervous in breaking the rules the recent civil court judges.

http://thailand.prd.go.th/view_news.php?id=7132&a=2

[Rob8891]

A few months after the Red shirts were put down by the army a wave of bombing hit Bangkok with a number of injured people, I do not remember if there were any deaths. I believe after some negotiations with and concessions to what has become the PTP the bombings stopped. It does appear these bombings are geared to cause fear in the general population and cause a drop in support for Suthep and his supporters.

If these bombs are set off by government supporters then it says little about the morals of the government and the people who represent it.

Paraphrase....... It says a lot about the lack of morals of the people who set it off....and ANYONE who supports such murderous intent.

FWIW, I hope that things will calm down sooner than later and that we will see no more death and injury most especially amongst innocent children. They are the future of Thailand: if their hearts, minds and bodies are damaged by this senseless violence, then all that is assured is that the cycle of carnage will continue ad infinitum.

Edited February 23, 2014 by Rob8891

[LeamchabangLarry]

A report in the nation paper says the tuk tuk driver was release - store here - http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/Tuk-tuk-driver-released-by-PDRC-guards-30227580.html

There was a number of Suthep supporters here earlier ready to hang the drive.

not to be a jerk, but it was probably pretty easy to assume that it wasn't the guy that paid taxes to support the country wearing a tie

[zydeco]

A report in the nation paper says the tuk tuk driver was release - store here - http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/Tuk-tuk-driver-released-by-PDRC-guards-30227580.html

There was a number of Suthep supporters here earlier ready to hang the drive.

This in simple fact is not true. Outrage was directed at the terrorist(s) in general, but I do not remember anyone who advocated hanging the tuk tuk driver. Maybe I missed one, but I don't think so. At any rate, with an allegation of this sort, you should be prepared to name names and provide evidence that "Suthep supporters" were ready to "hang the drive" (sic), instead of making a generalized smear.

[taony]

16 minutes ago from yingluck on FB. Notice she has not even acknowledged or is not aware of the child that died in Trat. Really sympathetic and in tune with whats going on.

I strongly condemn the use of violence in recent days that has caused many deaths both at Trat Province and especially at Rachaprasong today, which is particularly saddening and disturbing since the lives of children were lost. My deepest condolences are for the victims who are injured and to the relatives and friends of those who lost their lives. The violent incidents are terrorist acts for political gains without any regard for human lives. The government will not tolerate terrorism and has ordered a full investigation by authorities to find the culprits and bring them to justice without exception.

I would like to ask all sides of the political divide that we may see things differently and there are many ways to express those differences. But the use of violence that lead to deaths are not the civilized way of the living. It is not the way of life of Thais who are naturally considerate and empthatic to fellow citizens, rather than resort to senseless killings. I would like to again call on all sides that it is best to use peaceful means to resolve the political conflict through the democratic process.

come on, at least she finally said something. And we don't know if she was refering to the children in Trat or not. These things go through so many filters before they get translated (really, this looks like it was written by an adult - when Thai gets translated word for word it always sounds like a 5 year old is talking). She did say children, not child. As far as I know right now, 2 children were murdered in Trat and one today in Bangkok. So she was probably referring to both incidents.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

A few months after the Red shirts were put down by the army a wave of bombing hit Bangkok with a number of injured people, I do not remember if there were any deaths. I believe after some negotiations with and concessions to what has become the PTP the bombings stopped. It does appear these bombings are geared to cause fear in the general population and cause a drop in support for Suthep and his supporters.

If these bombs are set off by government supporters then it says little about the morals of the government and the people who represent it.

Quite an odd thing I can't say I understand...

I have some Thai neighbors... very peaceful and calm middle to upper middle class sorts ... who have been consistent participants in the anti-government protests in central BKK, the mall area locations.

Normally, they go to the Asoke protest site near Terminal 21 in the evenings. Tonight, after hearing of the bombing at Big C, they were heading to join the other protesters at the Ratchaprasong site. That certainly takes some guts in my book.

Edited February 23, 2014 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[blaze]

One thing I noticed about the pics taken in the immediate aftermath of the attack is the total lack of a police presence. This is on the street just outside Big C and is not near any stages. It's the middle of one of Bangkok's biggest shopping districts, and no police. First responders were the army and rescue crews. The police didn't show up until the army had apprehended some possible suspects.

The lack of a police presence, in light of all the terrorist activity is most disturbing. Do they not care about the security of shoppers on the busy weekend?

PRDC don't let them in.

Big C is fenced in by the protests- to get into big C (this morning at 11 am) from either direction, you had to walk past a guard checking bags. This is NOT to say that parents should be avoiding areas that the protesters have claimed. To the poster who says he hasn't seen police or army presence-- has he been to Lumphini park coming from Wireless Rd? To the intersection on Phetburi? Silom road (in front of Bangkok Bank)? I counted 12 manned bunkers in my stroll two days ago- though agree- NO police in sight.

I'm afraid the days of pointing fingers are coming to an end- now could begin the bad shit. Debates about 'who started it' will be the priviledge of those living off shore.

Thida's comments today are ominous-- and fully to be expected. People learn the easy way -- or the hard way- that there is a reason for law- for procedure- for dispassionate debate. There is much that happens in Thailand that would not be permitted in more stable countries-- (and let's not get into the nature of Thai culture that treats the law as little more than a tool with which to hammer your enemy when grenades are not available).

Anyone watching events unfold since the airport occupation- and the subsequent consolidation of Thaksin support- knew this would happen- and we will, I fear, see much worse.

Personally I can't understand why the Reds would be engaged in these bombings- unless they are loner cowboys- because in so doing, they are inviting a military coup. And very possibly another Abhisit led government.

Or all out civil war-- in which case nobody will win.

The reds have been so far, not villified by the west the way the gov't in Ukraine has been. It makes no sense that they would seek to lose the moral high ground. But-- times like this defy logic--

Edited February 23, 2014 by blaze

[icommunity]

Hahahaha, either you are not up-to-date or lie.

.

All the courts said to the police was they can enforce the law 'lawfully' (paraphrased).

I posted this to another nonsense post you made about this subject earlier today.

If you can provide me with evidence to the contrary I will admit my mistake and apologize- balls in your court matey...

Hahaha, you are another nonsense, you did not read the nine orders of the judges.

Umm... nine orders?

The link you posted has 12? Are you sure YOU know what you are talking about??

1. To prohibit the three defendants from using force, or from authorising the use of force or weapons, to disperse the protest held by the plaintiff and the public;

2. To prohibit the three defendants from ordering seizure of goods, consumer goods, chemical substances or other materials used in the protest organised by the plaintiff;

3. To prohibit the three defendants from issuing an order to search, remove, or demolish buildings, structures or barriers put up by the plaintiff;

4. To prohibit the three defendants from issuing an order requesting all sales, use or possession of goods, medical supplies, consumer goods which might be used in the protest held by the plaintiff, to be reported or given permission from relevant officers;

5. To prohibit the three defendants from banning any act that could block roads and traffic, or any act that could disrupt the normal use of public roads, in all the areas used by the plaintiff to organise the protest;

6. To prohibit the three defendants from banning gatherings of five persons or more;

7. To prohibit the three defendants from banning the use of roads or vehicles, or from setting conditions on the use of roads for the purposes of the protest;

8. To prohibit the three defendants from banning the use of buildings by the plaintiff, or banning the plaintiff from entering or residing in any place, or from entering into any areas;

9. To prohibit the three defendants from ordering the plaintiff and the protesters to leave the protest sites, or from banning entry into those areas;

10. To prohibit the three defendants from using force, or authorising the use of force by other officers, to disrupt the protest organised by the defendants

11. To allow the plaintiff and the general public to use or remain in the areas where the Decree is in force;

12. To allow the plaintiff to use roads or vehicles, or to park vehicles in the areas where the Decree is in force.

I sum it up. Or do you want to sue a news media which made the summary. So what is the problem?

[saltandpepper]

16 minutes ago from yingluck on FB. Notice she has not even acknowledged or is not aware of the child that died in Trat. Really sympathetic and in tune with whats going on.

I strongly condemn the use of violence in recent days that has caused many deaths both at Trat Province and especially at Rachaprasong today, which is particularly saddening and disturbing since the lives of children were lost. My deepest condolences are for the victims who are injured and to the relatives and friends of those who lost their lives. The violent incidents are terrorist acts for political gains without any regard for human lives. The government will not tolerate terrorism and has ordered a full investigation by authorities to find the culprits and bring them to justice without exception.

I would like to ask all sides of the political divide that we may see things differently and there are many ways to express those differences. But the use of violence that lead to deaths are not the civilized way of the living. It is not the way of life of Thais who are naturally considerate and empthatic to fellow citizens, rather than resort to senseless killings. I would like to again call on all sides that it is best to use peaceful means to resolve the political conflict through the democratic process.

From her Facebook????

That shows how "touched" she is....

Where has it beEN typed from? By whom?

[icommunity]

When judges of court barred law enforcement officers to search rally sites and disperse crowd that violated the rights of the public and clear illegal structures from the middle of the road, lawlessness prevails .

Send from my Mobile

Can you post supporting evidence for this allegation?

Huh, very tired and sleepy already. You can find it from my reply to some posters here.

Now explain how the court ruling is the reason why anti-government protesters are murdered.

So you are accusing that some one murdered the anti-government protesters.

My version is

When judges of court barred law enforcement officers to search rally sites and disperse crowd that violated the rights of the public and clear illegal structures from the middle of the road, lawlessness prevails.

[brewsterbudgen]

come on, at least she finally said something. And we don't know if she was refering to the children in Trat or not. These things go through so many filters before they get translated (really, this looks like it was written by an adult - when Thai gets translated word for word it always sounds like a 5 year old is talking). She did say children, not child. As far as I know right now, 2 children were murdered in Trat and one today in Bangkok. So she was probably referring to both incidents.

Anyone who thought that Yingluck and her government wouldn't condemn today's attacks was very misguided.

[CockneyGit]

A responsible parent will know that a peaceful rally for democracy is a peaceful rally for a better future for the kids, and hence a responsible parent would involve the kids as much as possible, so the kids understand why and what is at stake...

SICK peoples on the other hand - throw bombs at peaceful parents with peaceful kids...

Absolutely. Whatever side of the river you are on (red or yellow), attacking a place where families are likely to be is just despicable!

[taony]

A few months after the Red shirts were put down by the army a wave of bombing hit Bangkok with a number of injured people, I do not remember if there were any deaths. I believe after some negotiations with and concessions to what has become the PTP the bombings stopped. It does appear these bombings are geared to cause fear in the general population and cause a drop in support for Suthep and his supporters.

If these bombs are set off by government supporters then it says little about the morals of the government and the people who represent it.

Quite an odd thing I can't say I understand...

I have some Thai neighbors... very peaceful and calm middle to upper middle class sorts ... who have been consistent participants in the anti-government protests in central BKK, the mall area locations.

Normally, they go to the Asoke protest site near Terminal 21 in the evenings. Tonight, after hearing of the bombing at Big C, they were heading to join the other protesters at the Ratchaprasong site. That certainly takes some guts in my book.

I don't know if its guts or something else. Tonight the taxi driver told me "its not dangerous, these things happen in Thailand every once in a while". What does the frequency have to do with how dangerous it is??

[Rob8891]

A report in the nation paper says the tuk tuk driver was release - store here - http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/Tuk-tuk-driver-released-by-PDRC-guards-30227580.html

There was a number of Suthep supporters here earlier ready to hang the drive.

This in simple fact is not true. Outrage was directed at the terrorist(s) in general, but I do not remember anyone who advocated hanging the tuk tuk driver. Maybe I missed one, but I don't think so. At any rate, with an allegation of this sort, you should be prepared to name names and provide evidence that "Suthep supporters" were ready to "hang the drive" (sic), instead of making a generalized smear.

Give him a break, eh? There are posters who never let the truth get in the way of a quick and emotive post.....

Edited February 23, 2014 by Rob8891

[newcomer71]

16 minutes ago from yingluck on FB. Notice she has not even acknowledged or is not aware of the child that died in Trat. Really sympathetic and in tune with whats going on.

I strongly condemn the use of violence in recent days that has caused many deaths both at Trat Province and especially at Rachaprasong today, which is particularly saddening and disturbing since the lives of children were lost. My deepest condolences are for the victims who are injured and to the relatives and friends of those who lost their lives. The violent incidents are terrorist acts for political gains without any regard for human lives. The government will not tolerate terrorism and has ordered a full investigation by authorities to find the culprits and bring them to justice without exception.

I would like to ask all sides of the political divide that we may see things differently and there are many ways to express those differences. But the use of violence that lead to deaths are not the civilized way of the living. It is not the way of life of Thais who are naturally considerate and empthatic to fellow citizens, rather than resort to senseless killings. I would like to again call on all sides that it is best to use peaceful means to resolve the political conflict through the democratic process.

She condemned the 2 attacks, now what you expected to read? Don't be just blind and criticize everything that come from the other side.

At least she said something of good common sense and nothing to fomenting more hatred.

Did you even read enough to recognize she condemned both attacks?

Edited February 23, 2014 by newcomer71

[Prbkk]

So we are left with an innocent Tuk Tuk driver, guilty by association..initially at least...because of his hometown origins.

[Mario2008]

1 post generalizing Thai people removed.

[Red Snake]

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A report in the nation paper says the tuk tuk driver was release - store here - http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/Tuk-tuk-driver-released-by-PDRC-guards-30227580.html


There was a number of Suthep supporters here earlier ready to hang the drive.

This in simple fact is not true. Outrage was directed at the terrorist(s) in general, but I do not remember anyone who advocated hanging the tuk tuk driver. Maybe I missed one, but I don't think so. At any rate, with an allegation of this sort, you should be prepared to name names and provide evidence that "Suthep supporters" were ready to "hang the drive" (sic), instead of making a generalized smear.

Sorry but those remarks was deleted by the Mod, so you just have to take my word for it. If you like it or not. I don't really care.

[klaus303]

A PM that runs the country through Facebook - maybe that sets the standard of coming generations of politicians.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

The police are very nervous in breaking the rules the recent civil court judges.

http://thailand.prd.go.th/view_news.php?id=7132&a=2

It's noteworthy that the court opinion translation provided in the above link uses as its justification in ruling against the police and the government that the anti-government protests have been "peaceful and unarmed' -- which in fact they generally have been when not confronted by the police or Red Shirts.

Thus, apart from the actual ruling lacking any language that would prevent perimeter police checkpoints aimed at preventing weapons and explosives into the area, it's kind of hard to imagine the judges would take offense at the authorities preventing weapons being taken into "peaceful and unarmed" protests.

BTW, are those the same "very nervous" police and CMPO officials who first claimed the ruling would have no effect on their duties, and later started devising various schemes to either avoid the order or have it overturned on appeal...

Edited February 23, 2014 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[djjamie]

icommunity - A jpg is not enough. Appreciate a link to the website please so I can see the jpg in its full context.

The jpg says the defendant is the government (not the police) thus why I would appreciate the link to the website.

I thought you are so resourceful??????

http://thailand.prd.go.th/view_news.php?id=7132&a=2

Are you going to say this is the government website???? Go and take the information and ask the civil court or sue the government for disinformation.

That wasn't hard was it. Would have been a lot easier if you sent the link at the beginning instead of goading the posters.

Lets start with your first point.

When judges of court barred law enforcement officers to search rally sites lawlessness prevails.

3. To prohibit the three defendants from issuing an order to search, remove, or demolish buildings, structures or barriers put up by the plaintiff;

That does not promote lawlessness to prevail? It prevents the perceived bias of the police from planting evidence, bombs etc at the rally sites. Before this order came out the police did not find any bombs or prevent any attacks either. There were as many attacks on the protestors before this order came as there were after.

​The army have unarmed soldiers at all the rallies anyway to do the job of the police so lawlessness would not prevail because of the courts.

Second point.

and disperse crowd that violated the rights of the public and clear illegal structures from the middle of the road lawlessness prevailed.

​How was lawlessness prevailed here. It is not a question. The answer is obvious.

Again, thanks finally for the link.

You are so much more diplomatic than me - must be a patient person.

I have more patience than the Chulalongkorn Hospital did after the UDD stormed it in 2010. Lets put it that way.

Edited February 23, 2014 by djjamie

[Hulkster]

Maybe a policeman dropped a grenade again

No doubt the Bangkok Post will report this incident correctly.

[icommunity]

Hahaha, you are another nonsense, you did not read the nine orders of the judges.

As a matter of fact I did - which one "barred law enforcement officers to search rally sites"?

Order no.3. Oh I am getting tired and sleepy.

Your quote

"barred law enforcement officers to search rally sites"

Order number 3 (according to your information):

3. To prohibit the three defendants from issuing an order to search, remove, or demolish buildings, structures or barriers put up by the plaintiff;

Key points in that ruling are:

1. it applies to "buildings, structures or barriers"
2. It does not prohibit searching people or their belongings
3. it does not prohibit anyone else (besides the 3 defendants) from issuing any order

Get your facts right matey and stop posting utter cr_p.

I let the CMPO to seek clarification from the judges of civil court. Who else can issue an order to search, remove, or demolish buildings, structures or barriers put up by the plaintiff. May be BMA? eg. Illegal structures are right in the middle of the roads.

My reaction to the violence was:

When judges of court barred law enforcement officers to search rally sites and disperse crowd that violated the rights of the public and clear illegal structures from the middle of the road, lawlessness prevails .

[zydeco]

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A report in the nation paper says the tuk tuk driver was release - store here - http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/Tuk-tuk-driver-released-by-PDRC-guards-30227580.html

There was a number of Suthep supporters here earlier ready to hang the drive.

This in simple fact is not true. Outrage was directed at the terrorist(s) in general, but I do not remember anyone who advocated hanging the tuk tuk driver. Maybe I missed one, but I don't think so. At any rate, with an allegation of this sort, you should be prepared to name names and provide evidence that "Suthep supporters" were ready to "hang the drive" (sic), instead of making a generalized smear.

Sorry but those remarks was deleted by the Mod, so you just have to take my word for it. If you like it or not. I don't really care.

It's ironic that you would engage in an unsupportable charge of advocating violence by other participants in this thread, while you yourself have already been outed for having made precisely those those type of statements: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/706342-scores-of-people-injured-in-bomb-attack-during-anti-government-rally-in-trat/page-9#entry7477510

[ShannonT]

16 minutes ago from yingluck on FB. Notice she has not even acknowledged or is not aware of the child that died in Trat. Really sympathetic and in tune with whats going on.

####I strongly condemn the use of violence in recent days that has caused many deaths both at Trat Province and especially at Rachaprasong today, which is particularly saddening and disturbing since the lives of children were lost. My deepest condolences are for the victims who are injured and to the relatives and friends of those who lost their lives. The violent incidents are terrorist acts for political gains without any regard for human lives. The government will not tolerate terrorism and has ordered a full investigation by authorities to find the culprits and bring them to justice without exception.

I would like to ask all sides of the political divide that we may see things differently and there are many ways to express those differences. But the use of violence that lead to deaths are not the civilized way of the living. It is not the way of life of Thais who are naturally considerate and empthatic to fellow citizens, rather than resort to senseless killings. I would like to again call on all sides that it is best to use peaceful means to resolve the political conflict through the democratic process.####

So that sums up 2 days of terrorist attacks. The PM sending a FB message were she can't even get her facts right about the death of a child in Trat. A DEM keyboard warrior knows more about the casualties than the leader of the country. Some leader. (I have not seen a televised sincere TV address yet??)

About 4 hours away there was a UDD "Beat the war drum" meeting of peaceful UDD supporters of which 4000 laughed, cheered and clapped in unison when they heard about the deaths or innocent protestors in Trat.

I am glad I don't support this trash.

Do you even read what you quote?

Because in her post, which you pasted here yourself, she is clearly referring t the children who died in Trat and Rajprasong.

She also got the facts right about multiple people dying in Trat, because it is now 2 children who died there.

It seems like you are the one who is getting the facts wrong, not Yingluck.

Next time you should get updated yourself before making fun of others.

[kingalfred]

When are Suthep and his thick skinned mob going to get it.If Yingluck is going it will be a court that will decide it in next 2-3 weeks.you on your ego trip are responsible for the deaths of children now.Shame on Thailand .Shame on the Thai people if they are allowing this to continue .I have no respect for country or people if this event does not end the madness.

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Edited February 23, 2014 by kingalfred

[Blackmirage2013]

You communicate via Facebook, when you have lost Face!

This whole political unrest is completely getting out of control, mostly because of the Immaturity and child-like behavior of so many people... and now the biggest cry baby of them all, Nattuwat is threatening to wage the "final epic battle" against the anti-government protests.... I swear, the guy thinks he is still in the sandbox in nursery school... and as I recall, when the red shirt protesters were dispersed in 2010, didn't he go running away beforehand like a big fat chicken?

Most of the people involved are cowards... bit and tough on stage, but how many of them are fighting when the real bullets start to fly? NONE!

Look at Yingluck. I bet she isn't even in Thailand anymore! Children and cowards, all of them!!!

Edited February 23, 2014 by Blackmirage2013