Hospital in Bangkok under gun attack

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Hospital under gun attack



BANGKOK: -- Unknown number of perpetrators fired gunshots at Mongkutwattana General Hospital on Chaengwattana road causing damage to its glass window pane.

The hospital executive said on its Facebook page today that although this private hospital would provide medical treatment and care for anti-government protesters of the People’s Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC)

rallying on Chaengwattana road, it also treated other patients who have different ideology with the PDRC equally without bias.

The hospital said that it would not file complaint with the police to investigate the gun attack and find the gunmen because it did not want to become news and also it has no trust and no confidence in this caretaker government.

The gun attack on the hospital happened at about 8.00 p.m. Friday night.

The gunshots riddled the surgery ward on the seventh floor of the 20-storey hospital building.

The 400-bed hospital director was seen on many occasions trying to persuade police from using force against the protesters when they came to evacuate protesters led by Luang.

Poo Buddha-issara blockading the Government Center Complex on Chaengwattana road.

It provides free medical care to protesters during the recent skirmishes between PDRC protesters and redshirt supporters led by Kotee or Wuthipong Kochathammakun at Laksi intersection one day before the February 2 general election.

(photo : www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000491468200)

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/hospital-gun-attack/

-- Thai PBS 2014-03-08

[sam sen]

there's some sick people out there.

[ikke]

We haven't seen all yet, sick people on both sides I would say.

[noitom]

he refused to9 file a complaint because "the caretaker government can't be trusted." If it weren't a false flag attack, he would have accurately and truthfully stated that the police and the Thai press can't be trusted.

[pisico]

QUOTE:

"... it (the hospital) also treated other patients who have different ideology with the PDRC equally without bias.

The 400-bed hospital director was seen on many occasions trying to persuade police from using force against the protesters when they came to evacuate protesters led by Luang. Poo Buddha-issara blockading the Government Center Complex on Chaengwattana road."

Without bias... ???

Can anybody expect a hospital run by a director who is publicly advocating in favor of protesters to treat anyone, regardless of obvious political affiliation, without bias?

Of course that the Abhisittards and Suthepistas will flame me on the basis of "principles". Please, cite facts without taking the issue ad hominem or using Sophistry.

The truth is more obvious that the denial of facts: Doctors, lawyers, judges, and other "educated" people in Bangkok are, or want to be, part of the Ammart (Bangkok elite).

All one needs to do to earn their support and graces is to show willingness to want revenge oppose the Thaksin regime.

However, the 63 million plus of Thais in the country are not part of the educated Ammart in Bangkok. Those uneducated Thais are the backbone of Thailand's economy.

Why have the Democrats failed to connect for the better part of 20 years with the vast majority of the uneducated in the country?

Why after the 2006 coup the Democrats did not promote better health care and education for all (in special to farmers and peasants), open public libraries to anyone seeking more knowledge and thus educate the farmers, the humble people in the hinterlands?

Because an Ammart is an Ammart and to them, Bangkok IS Thailand.

[Rob8891]

there's some sick people out there.

Aye, and we've got plenty more in Thaivisa. Just give them a chance to finish the morning coffee and they'll be along soon.

Attacking hospitals is almost as sick as it comes, no matter who did it or why.

[seajae]

lets see, who has previous experience at doing this to hospitals.

[pmugghc]

QUOTE:

"... it (the hospital) also treated other patients who have different ideology with the PDRC equally without bias.

The 400-bed hospital director was seen on many occasions trying to persuade police from using force against the protesters when they came to evacuate protesters led by Luang. Poo Buddha-issara blockading the Government Center Complex on Chaengwattana road."

Without bias... ???

Can anybody expect a hospital run by a director who is publicly advocating in favor of protesters to treat anyone, regardless of obvious political affiliation, without bias?

Of course that the Abhisittards and Suthepistas will flame me on the basis of "principles". Please, cite facts without taking the issue ad hominem or using Sophistry.

The truth is more obvious that the denial of facts: Doctors, lawyers, judges, and other "educated" people in Bangkok are, or want to be, part of the Ammart (Bangkok elite).

All one needs to do to earn their support and graces is to show willingness to want revenge oppose the Thaksin regime.

However, the 63 million plus of Thais in the country are not part of the educated Ammart in Bangkok. Those uneducated Thais are the backbone of Thailand's economy.

Why have the Democrats failed to connect for the better part of 20 years with the vast majority of the uneducated in the country?

Why after the 2006 coup the Democrats did not promote better health care and education for all (in special to farmers and peasants), open public libraries to anyone seeking more knowledge and thus educate the farmers, the humble people in the hinterlands?

Because an Ammart is an Ammart and to them, Bangkok IS Thailand.

You tell people to cite facts. How about you provide some facts regarding your thesis that the doctors and nurses will treat red shirts worse than others?

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

Edited March 8, 2014 by pmugghc

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ANTI-GOVERNMENT CAMPAIGNS
Attacks at hospital condemned



BANGKOK: -- Some assailants opened fires on Mongkutwattana General Hospital on Chang Wattana road on Friday night, damaging a part of a floor and no one was injured.

Maj Gen Dr Rienthong Nanna, director of the hospital, posted on his Facebook that the attack took place at about 8pm when an unidentified group shot at the hospital which is opposite a rally site.

He condemned the attack, saying hospitals have never been the targets even in the World War or any battlefields.

"The hospital has treated not only the anti-government protesters but also thier opposition without any discrimination. The hospital has employees who either support or oppose the protests but they could work together," he said.

He will not file a complaint with police about the attack because he did not have confidence and trust on the caretaker government and wish to ask for protection from the army units deployed in Chang Wattana area.

The doctor also posted a photo of a hole he said caused by the shooting.


-- The Nation 2014-03-08

[kikoman]

Again another mystery attack on a PDRC supporterl in an empty area with no one hurt and a little damage but great propaganda value!

To many no victim attacks with no one hurt and very little damage, makes one wonder, who really is responsible!

Cheers

Edited March 8, 2014 by kikoman

[mrtoad]

lets see, who has previous experience at doing this to hospitals.

Possibly fake red shirts?

[djjamie]

Again another mystery attack on a PDRC supporterl in an empty area with no one hurt and a little damage but great propaganda value!

To many no victim attacks with no one hurt and very little damage, makes one wonder, who really is responsible!

Cheers

OK so going by your logic the attacks at Trat and Bangkok that did have casualties were red shirts.

You seem to have painted the UDD so innocently and angelically they should move to Salt Lake City and start a church outreach program. Sunday's sermons called "Beat the war drum" spring to mind.

Of course it is easier to demonize the "out-groups" for all the "in-groups" problems and is understandable when you have invested so much emotional time in the UDD and the PTP or to save time in typing "the minority".

Edited March 8, 2014 by djjamie

[Scamper]

For those with a vengeance, there are no boundaries, there are no hospitals, there is no recognition of the principle of compassionate medical care, there is no recognition of the right of all people to be treated regardless as to political affiliation. For those with a vengeance, there is no tolerance for different opinions. Vengeance is practiced by those who are blinded by hate. But even though they are blinded by it, they still maintain that they can see.

[Loles]

Politic ... eeehhhh

[mojorison]

QUOTE:

"... it (the hospital) also treated other patients who have different ideology with the PDRC equally without bias.

The 400-bed hospital director was seen on many occasions trying to persuade police from using force against the protesters when they came to evacuate protesters led by Luang. Poo Buddha-issara blockading the Government Center Complex on Chaengwattana road."

Without bias... ???

Can anybody expect a hospital run by a director who is publicly advocating in favor of protesters to treat anyone, regardless of obvious political affiliation, without bias?

Of course that the Abhisittards and Suthepistas will flame me on the basis of "principles". Please, cite facts without taking the issue ad hominem or using Sophistry.

The truth is more obvious that the denial of facts: Doctors, lawyers, judges, and other "educated" people in Bangkok are, or want to be, part of the Ammart (Bangkok elite).

All one needs to do to earn their support and graces is to show willingness to want revenge oppose the Thaksin regime.

However, the 63 million plus of Thais in the country are not part of the educated Ammart in Bangkok. Those uneducated Thais are the backbone of Thailand's economy.

Why have the Democrats failed to connect for the better part of 20 years with the vast majority of the uneducated in the country?

Why after the 2006 coup the Democrats did not promote better health care and education for all (in special to farmers and peasants), open public libraries to anyone seeking more knowledge and thus educate the farmers, the humble people in the hinterlands?

Because an Ammart is an Ammart and to them, Bangkok IS Thailand.

You tell people to cite facts. How about you provide some facts regarding your thesis that the doctors and nurses will treat red shirts worse than others?

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

Well of course they will treat them worse... if they treat them at all. Thai healthcare is based on a user pays system. (Don't include the rudimentary 35 baht cover.) If you have a serious illness or have had an accident, if you don't have sufficient funds, you will not receive care. I can cite several examples where treatment is not administered until funds are presented. (Both Farang and Thai cases). The demographical evidence confirms that the groups represented by the red-shirts come from lower income sections of the community, it stands to reason therefore, that they get diminished medical care.

[marcusd]

QUOTE:

"... it (the hospital) also treated other patients who have different ideology with the PDRC equally without bias.

The 400-bed hospital director was seen on many occasions trying to persuade police from using force against the protesters when they came to evacuate protesters led by Luang. Poo Buddha-issara blockading the Government Center Complex on Chaengwattana road."

Without bias... ???

Can anybody expect a hospital run by a director who is publicly advocating in favor of protesters to treat anyone, regardless of obvious political affiliation, without bias?

Of course that the Abhisittards and Suthepistas will flame me on the basis of "principles". Please, cite facts without taking the issue ad hominem or using Sophistry.

The truth is more obvious that the denial of facts: Doctors, lawyers, judges, and other "educated" people in Bangkok are, or want to be, part of the Ammart (Bangkok elite).

All one needs to do to earn their support and graces is to show willingness to want revenge oppose the Thaksin regime.

However, the 63 million plus of Thais in the country are not part of the educated Ammart in Bangkok. Those uneducated Thais are the backbone of Thailand's economy.

Why have the Democrats failed to connect for the better part of 20 years with the vast majority of the uneducated in the country?

Why after the 2006 coup the Democrats did not promote better health care and education for all (in special to farmers and peasants), open public libraries to anyone seeking more knowledge and thus educate the farmers, the humble people in the hinterlands?

Because an Ammart is an Ammart and to them, Bangkok IS Thailand.

you are free not to go there. Is it still just and proper to shoot because you have a differing opinion?

Marcusd. Via tapatalk

[marcusd]

Again another mystery attack on a PDRC supporterl in an empty area with no one hurt and a little damage but great propaganda value!

To many no victim attacks with no one hurt and very little damage, makes one wonder, who really is responsible!

Cheers

kiko you ho stand in front of the windows and see if your thesis works. Plain dumb. My gid what crevice did you escape from to ruin Thailand with such preposterous crap

Marcusd. Via tapatalk

[Gunna]

Again another mystery attack on a PDRC supporterl in an empty area with no one hurt and a little damage but great propaganda value!

To many no victim attacks with no one hurt and very little damage, makes one wonder, who really is responsible!

Cheers

Many of us here suspect we know who is behind this as proven by the fact that the Police have failed to arrest a single person in regard to grenade & shooting attacks on PDRC. If it was their own supporters doing it the Police would have arrested a lot of them, eg using CCTV footage, but when it is Thaksin/ Red Shirt/UDD supporters they seem unable to do anything. But when it is a Red shirt/UDD attacked there is an almost immediate suspect and arrest.

[bigbamboo]

Again another mystery attack on a PDRC supporterl in an empty area with no one hurt and a little damage but great propaganda value!

To many no victim attacks with no one hurt and very little damage, makes one wonder, who really is responsible!

Cheers

Again we see how some supporters always manage come up with twisted theories to deny any responsibility for anything.

[bubblegum]

Here we go again Ammart, Ammart, Ammart, Bangkok elite .

Let me ask all of you red supporters the following question:

The barber, mum and pop shop owner, cashier at 7/11, my water delivery man, the bike repair shop owner, the local cable tv people, the cooking gas supplier, the nurse at the local hospital, the painter, carpenter, pool cleaner, and so on, and so on are ALL part of the Ammart ? Just asking because in Phuket they all vote for the democrats.

[geriatrickid]

This story certainly puts the BBC report today in perspective;

Some of Thailand's biggest companies have staked large amounts of money on the PDRC succeeding in its bid to oust the Shinawatra clan. They, and every other party that has backed a protest movement that turned into an insurrection, fear retribution from the pro-Thaksin camp if they fail.

[Goat Roper]

For those with a vengeance, there are no boundaries, there are no hospitals, there is no recognition of the principle of compassionate medical care, there is no recognition of the right of all people to be treated regardless as to political affiliation. For those with a vengeance, there is no tolerance for different opinions. Vengeance is practiced by those who are blinded by hate. But even though they are blinded by it, they still maintain that they can see.

I have witnessed on two occasions a Thai go ballistic over very trivial things, and it had nothing to do with loss of face. Be aware.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Still waiting for an arrest by the police of ANYONE connected to the ongoing campaign of intimidation and assault aimed at the anti-government protesters... How long's it going to take.... probably for NEVER.

The absence of action or progress clearly tells everyone who is behind these assaults...

[Mackie]

This story certainly puts the BBC report today in perspective;

Some of Thailand's biggest companies have staked large amounts of money on the PDRC succeeding in its bid to oust the Shinawatra clan. They, and every other party that has backed a protest movement that turned into an insurrection, fear retribution from the pro-Thaksin camp if they fail.

Most of your posts make sense. But this one. What the above quoted post has got to do with the attack on hospital in Bangkok?

Anyway it was another cowardly and despicable attack. It doesn't surprise in the slightest. I still remember with disgust how red shirts/UDD defenders of 'democracy' treated patients and staff at Chula Hospital in 2010.

[bigbamboo]

This story certainly puts the BBC report today in perspective;

Some of Thailand's biggest companies have staked large amounts of money on the PDRC succeeding in its bid to oust the Shinawatra clan. They, and every other party that has backed a protest movement that turned into an insurrection, fear retribution from the pro-Thaksin camp if they fail.

I'm sure many of Thailand's biggest companies want to see the end of the Shinawat regime. No company wants to operate where state controlled corruption is the norm.

Edited March 8, 2014 by bigbamboo

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Mongkutwattana hospital attack strongly condemned
By Digital Content



NONTHABURI, March 8--- Maj Gen Dr Rienthong Nanna, director of Mongkutwattana General Hospital, condemned last night’s shooting attack at the hospital on Chaeng Wattana Road.

The incident occurred at about 8pm on Friday when unknown attackers fired at this privately-run hospital which is near the PDRC rally site led by Phra Buddha Issara. The shooting caused some damage to the hospital but no one was injured.

After the attack on the hospital, Dr Rienthong posted a photo and a message on his Facebook page last night to condemn the assault.

He said that hospitals or medical units have never been targets of attacks even during world wars or any wartime, affirming that the hospital treated both People's Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC) supporters and their opponents fairly and without discrimination.

The hospital director admitted that there are hospital officials who support the PDRC movement and those that oppose the PDRC but they can work together and coexist peacefully, adding that the attack might lead to conflict between both sides.

However, the hospital would not file a complaint regarding the attack, Dr Rienthong said, explaining that he was not confident in and could not rely on the caretaker government.

He also asked for army units stationed in Chaeng Wattana zone to provide security.

Meanwhile, two assailants in a sedan opened fire near the Chaeng Wattana rally site at around 2.20am on Saturday. The gunfire seriously injured one person, who is now hospitalised at Siriraj Hospital.



On Friday evening, an M-79 grenade was fired near a group of PDRC supporters who were protesting in front of Shinwatra Tower III on Viphavadi Rangsit Road. No injuries were reported. (MCOT onlin news)

-- TNA 2014-03-08

[Bluespunk]

Again another mystery attack on a PDRC supporterl in an empty area with no one hurt and a little damage but great propaganda value!

To many no victim attacks with no one hurt and very little damage, makes one wonder, who really is responsible!

Cheers

Nope. Quite clear who is thuggish enough to do this. They have previous. Edited March 8, 2014 by Bluespunk

[Fat Haggis]

That Hospital director doesn't really know about world history and warfare does he?

Japanese Troops ransacked hospitals all the time during WW2

Russian and Germans did too, infact I'm willing to bet that it's a lot more common than one thinks.

Insurgents in Iraq took over hospitals in Fallujah and Ramadi ..

But he's right though, attacking hospitals is the lowest of the low along with targetting Children!!

[craigt3365]

What a cowardly attack. Regardless of a police report, this should be investigated promptly. This hospital serves people from every political background. Even those with no affiliation.

Cowards.

[sweatalot]

QUOTE:

"... it (the hospital) also treated other patients who have different ideology with the PDRC equally without bias.

The 400-bed hospital director was seen on many occasions trying to persuade police from using force against the protesters when they came to evacuate protesters led by Luang. Poo Buddha-issara blockading the Government Center Complex on Chaengwattana road."

Without bias... ???

Can anybody expect a hospital run by a director who is publicly advocating in favor of protesters to treat anyone, regardless of obvious political affiliation, without bias?

Of course that the Abhisittards and Suthepistas will flame me on the basis of "principles". Please, cite facts without taking the issue ad hominem or using Sophistry.

The truth is more obvious that the denial of facts: Doctors, lawyers, judges, and other "educated" people in Bangkok are, or want to be, part of the Ammart (Bangkok elite).

All one needs to do to earn their support and graces is to show willingness to want revenge oppose the Thaksin regime.

However, the 63 million plus of Thais in the country are not part of the educated Ammart in Bangkok. Those uneducated Thais are the backbone of Thailand's economy.

Why have the Democrats failed to connect for the better part of 20 years with the vast majority of the uneducated in the country?

Why after the 2006 coup the Democrats did not promote better health care and education for all (in special to farmers and peasants), open public libraries to anyone seeking more knowledge and thus educate the farmers, the humble people in the hinterlands?

Because an Ammart is an Ammart and to them, Bangkok IS Thailand.

Can anybody expect a hospital run by a director who is publicly advocating in favor of protesters to treat anyone, regardless of obvious political affiliation, without bias?

Yes that's what can be expected from normal people with healthy ethics, in particular from medical personal. Have you ever heard that in war the medical staff always treats wounded enemies without bias.

I can only image evil or stupid people thinking like you. And red shirts, of course